Approval reduction
The people of Mossess are suggesting that the number of approvals needs to be reduced to 4% so as to allow a faster more streamlined UN to operate!
Also perhaps raising the number of endorsements needed before being allowed to submit might be a good idea?
Any comments welcome?
:headbang:
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The following are proposals for UN resolutions. Any UN member nation with at least two endorsements can make a proposal, but it will only become a resolution (to be voted on by the entire UN) if it is approved by at least 6% of UN Regional Delegates.
As the UN currently has 2,439 Regional Delegates, a proposal needs 147 approvals to achieve quorum.
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This has been suggested many times before, and is unlikely to change. The current system weeds out pretty much all the badly written proposals.
Forgottenlands
22-06-2005, 14:24
Having come from the era when people needed 0 endorsements to submit, I disagree with the request to lower endorsements.
Back when I had originally played (2 years ago), you needed 0 endorsements which resulted in over 100 pages worth of proposals at any given time. There are enough complaints about UN delegates being "lazy" today, I can only imagine how it would be if the list were 2-3 times longer.
This needs to be done. Tons of good proposals are being voted down because it lacks enough approvals. Often missing them by 50 or so.
Darkumbria
22-06-2005, 16:05
Oh for the Love of....
Sheesh... Ok, how many STUPID proposals to we want to go to vote? It's bad enough that we get national/regional issues tossed on us like water in a lake. Now, you want to LOWER the number???
Heck no....Let's raise the number, so we can start using this body for the creation of INTERNATIONAL NATIONS, not states of the UN.
90% of the proposals that are ramrodded through are regional or national in nature, not international. Example, Sewage problem. Is this an national issue?? I don't care....I'm not one of your citizens. Regional issue??? Hmm... maybe, but this is your regional forum...It's FREAKING UN forum. Do you people not realize that regional issues can't be universal? My nation doesn't exist on your planet. It exists on Northwind.... Therefore....Your problems aren't necessarily. Come up with International/Universal proposals, regulate that through the mods. Then, I'll say.... We can use less approvals, but not until then.
I won't vote for anything like this until the crap stops. There is FAR too much junk going through now.
Greetings.
We note that truly universal proposals are unlikely to reach quorum. There are too few true universals, and too few able to talk cogently and coherently about them. Consequently, the tragedy of the masses - voting for dolphins and suchlike. We suspect they do it for the 'kicks'. After all, endorsers and dolphins give you endorphins.
HC Eredivisie
22-06-2005, 19:16
Having come from the era when people needed 0 endorsements to submit, I disagree with the request to lower endorsements.
Back when I had originally played (2 years ago), you needed 0 endorsements which resulted in over 100 pages worth of proposals at any given time. There are enough complaints about UN delegates being "lazy" today, I can only imagine how it would be if the list were 2-3 times longer.uhm, that's not what Mosses ment.
Quiet true.
By raising the number of endorsements needed before you can submit it would mean that the country making a suggestion has at least been around the block a few times. Hense (perhaps) less likely to make bad suggestions.
One way to ensure that the country doesn't make bad suggestions would be to have a vote then sent onto all the countries that have endorsed them in the first place. Those counrties can then decide to withdraw there endorsement of that country, then say, after 1 or 2 days, if they still have the required number of endorsements the suggestion can go forward for approval.
That way if a counry makes a bad suggestion they will find it hard to make a second one as many countries will simply withdraw there endorsement.
Anyway, it's just a thought!