NationStates Jolt Archive


Idea for Improvement

Honest Anarchist
26-04-2005, 00:09
Sometimes I wonder how old my nation is in the grand scheme of the nationstates world. Wouldn't it be cool (and I imagine easily implemented) to have a list of nations in order of oldest to youngest?
Honest Anarchist
26-04-2005, 00:26
got my question answered in a different thread... apparently it would be too difficult to implement that? oh well...
Heiligkeit
26-04-2005, 00:43
You could also look at the XML for your nation
Jjuulliiaann
26-04-2005, 01:08
Or, you could wait until the "Largest Nations" UN ranking comes around again. That gives you a complete list of all of the nations in NS, from largest population to smallest. It also gives rankings for your region, and tells you where you are on that list.
Erastide
26-04-2005, 13:46
Largest nations isn't a completely accurate measurement, as some nations have gotten the population bug. Additionally, the population change is slightly random each day, so nations created on the same day can have different populations forever.

And for nations older than... (some day between july 03 and april 04) the creation date is 0 (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi/nation=erastide). So you can't tell date off of that for the larger nations.

The only way I've found for older nations is to see their creation date on the forums. I *think* that's the only record there is at this point, unless people kept their own records.
Heiligkeit
26-04-2005, 23:36
as some nations have gotten the population bug
Don't the moderators put back the original population that the nation had before the bug?
The Most Glorious Hack
27-04-2005, 11:45
No.
Czardas
27-04-2005, 13:54
Largest nations isn't a completely accurate measurement, as some nations have gotten the population bug. Additionally, the population change is slightly random each day, so nations created on the same day can have different populations forever.

And for nations older than... (some day between july 03 and april 04) the creation date is 0 (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/nationdata.cgi/nation=erastide). So you can't tell date off of that for the larger nations.

The only way I've found for older nations is to see their creation date on the forums. I *think* that's the only record there is at this point, unless people kept their own records.There's also the Sunset Calculator, which tells you how many days your nation has been included in the UN listings (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php).
Czardas
27-04-2005, 13:55
Or, you could wait until the "Largest Nations" UN ranking comes around again. That gives you a complete list of all of the nations in NS, from largest population to smallest. It also gives rankings for your region, and tells you where you are on that list.(which is today)
HC Eredivisie
27-04-2005, 14:25
There's also the Sunset Calculator, which tells you how many days your nation has been included in the UN listings (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php).
HCE = 745 days old
H'bier = 744 days old

From what I recall I created H'bier one week before HCE.
Mikitivity
27-04-2005, 16:30
(which is today)

:) I thought it was fortunate that it popped up today. I don't know if others do this, but my region records the daily Top 10, but when something like this comes around, I grab the rankings of all nations in my region.
Heiligkeit
28-04-2005, 03:01
No.
Population rapidly increases: The famous (and much coveted) 'population bug' is actually the flip side to the 'issues not updating bug': instead of being updated zero times per update, nations with the population bug are updated two times. This means they gain population at twice the rate of other nations, receive twice as many issues as they request, and, if they are UN members, are doubly affected by UN resolutions. When we're sure we've got this bug squished, we'll run a job to scale back everyone's population to where it should have been, so it's only a temporary boost.

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