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Economy question

Nag Ehgoeg
08-04-2005, 11:07
Hi, long time player first time "ask a stupid n00b question" poster.

I have two nations. I gutted the economy on both. One of those nations I turned around - after having an imploded economy for about a month I got it up to frightening in about two months.

I know that if you get an Imploded economy it is very hard to rebuild your economy - but not imposssible.

That said, I have recently (after about two years of having an Imploded economy) tryed to improve the economy of my main nation (Nag Ehgoeg, this nation). I can't.

UN Category: Capitalizt - OK, fine, great.

"Its compassionate, hard-working population of 5.039 billion enjoy some of the most opulent lifestyles in the region, unless they are unemployed or working-class" - Not grammatically sound, but what I expect

"the omnipresent, liberal, pro-business government" - Nothing wrong there

"A powerhouse of a private sector is dominated by the Information Technology industry." - Excelent, good, good.

"private business has started paving paradises and putting up parking lots" - The price of progress


Economy: Imploded

Now I know that things are coded for differently. I know that what's said in one paragraph might conflict with what's said in the next paragraph. But all three parts of my nations description say I love bussiness. My UN catagorgy screams Capitalizt - with a "z" man, with a "Z" - but my economy remains stubburnly Imploded!


Der Angst
08-04-2005, 12:57

At least you're not the only victim (See also here ( And apparently, 'only' your standard economic status is effected, not the daily UN rankings (Going by Cetaganda's stats, anyway).

Now... I do remember this coming up before... Can't find the thread (Seems to have gone. Bah.), but I believe Salusa mentioned that this is at least not a bug. Just the result of a very odd issue choice combination or something...
08-04-2005, 12:58
That's one of the things in NationStates. Whatever happens in your nation behind the text doesn't always resemble what your nation really is. For example, a nation of mine was 9xx in the world for largest private sector. Though the nation discription said private enterprise is being illegal. Just choose all insane pro business and economy issues and things will get better. It's even harder to get outlawed as civil rights. But I heard this before, the older your nation gets the more difficult it is to make radical changes. Unless you have always chosen totally different things but the old nations are months perhaps even years the same UN category. Partially by choice, but also through game mechanics.

Ever since the day I got this nation I started to outlaw political freedoms, hence why they are all outlawed. Getting those back up is very difficult because the game recognizes my nation as a place where "political freedoms are gone, so there's no need for political issues". Same happens with economy and civil rights. When your nation is an totalitarian dictatorship spending cash like wildmen on business and corporate welfare, expecting to make swift changes is pretty silly, because your pro-business policy has been top priority.
Der Angst
08-04-2005, 13:20
Just choose all insane pro business and economy issues and things will get better.Judging from his post/ National desc, he's already doing that... Just like he did with his other nation, where it did work.
Nag Ehgoeg
08-04-2005, 14:21
It worked fine with Dictatorship n Strife ( and I've been passing pro economy issues like crazy. I think I remember a nation having the same problem ages ago and I've remembered the solution. I think you need the "Outlaw Capitalism" issue (not this issues name, but that's what it does) to fix the economy ratings.

But thanks for your help.
09-04-2005, 11:27
Issues have much less effect on older nations. Particularly in regards to economy.

Disclaimer: Not a mod - this information was gleaned through eavesdropping, reading FAQs and other such actions. As such, it may be wrong.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-04-2005, 12:50
Weird things happen some times. My guess is that you have loads of economic freedom, but nothing powering the economy.

Hell, I've got a "Capitalist Paradise" that has 98% tax and has outlawed private industry. Still trying to make that work...