NationStates Jolt Archive

Dear SalusaSecondus and [violet],
seeing as nations over 3 billion have been on NationStates for a long time and are less likely to abuse rewards and seeing as 500 million is no longer big, let it be proposed that ceratain rewards go to 3 billion + nations.
For such bonuses, we suggest: the ability to create a longer custom nation pre-title and motto; the ability to have a custom paragraph editable in the settings page which would show up in the nation's description page; the ability to use such macros as @@NATION@@ and @@REGION@@ in the custom pre-title, motto, and custom paragraph; and a 20 telegram capacity in their inbox.
This proposal was made by Jjuulliiaann, Nanakaland, and others from #NationStates_Technical.

First off, I'd say that is a fair bit of code that would need to be put in, there ... I'm not code-monkey, but I still think it'd take quite a bit of code to establish most of that.

Second, I don't know if 3 bill is enough. I'd say 3.5 at least, and better yet, 4.

Finally, if such code was knocked together, I'd suggest only the extra pre-title or motto length, and no macros activation, really. I can't help but feel that @@REGION@@ in your pre-title could be abused, some-how. People would find a way, even if by accident.

Personally, I'd love a larger flag file size limit, to be honest. I hate finding or making something nice, only to have to shrink it down so far that I lose the detail that made it so nice in the first place.

* And as an incentive to a certain pair of Game Moderators, I'd lose the " gay color wheel " if it was so, so " nyer " :p

Of course, just as with more telegrams and the " the ability to have a custom paragraph editable in the settings page which would show up in the nation's description page; " the issue here is going to be storage ...

( And bugs, as with any coding, there will always be bugs, good as Salusa and [violet] are at the job, of course. )

Don't get me wrong, I think some basic rewards for hitting several billion are a great idea ! What can be an incentive to many players is the 500 million = player created pre-title, and the ability to send in issues, and after a few bill pop later, it couldn't hurt to consider some other minor incentive to still contribute, in fact I'd have to give my congrats to Jjuulliiaann to raising this.

I think rewards for longevity are a nice idea, whether they are the ones discussed here or other perks. However, I think 5 billion would be a good cutoff point. Gives one something to aspire too and not so many nations would qualify all at once at the activation date.

I think rewards for longevity are a nice idea.
I don't see the 500 million improvements as a reward for longevity. I see them as an acknowledgement that you're committed to sticking with the game for a while, so now we can let you play with Issues and national titles. It's not a reward, it's the end of the probationary period.

Three, four, or five billion are irrelevant waypoints. All it says is that you share the general insanity of this place enough to hang around this long. You don't need a reward, you need medication.

* Innoculates self against internet addiction, goes into coma, dies. *

* Innoculates self against internet addiction, goes into coma, dies. ** Makes comment about small sized text and telegrams, * :p

Three, four, or five billion are irrelevant waypoints. All it says is that you share the general insanity of this place enough to hang around this long. You don't need a reward, you need medication.

* Innoculates self against internet addiction, goes into coma, dies. *

I must agree with this statement, as I have gone insane, personally, over this game.

God Bless the People that stick around here, 'cause their gonna need help. XD

:p (Buries Fris, tries to think of witty response... can't... bangs head on wall and continues on)

3 billion is kind of an odd number. It is, on average, a year and a half. 4 billion, or two years, would seem more appropriate.

The extra large inbox I wouldn't mind, and the custom paragraph probably wouldn't be so bad either. It would give people a chance to show what they've done in the game without having to fuss around with Wikipedia coding, and it's in-game. The rest wouldn't be all that special, expecially the macros. For many, it would be easier and/or shorter to just type the name itself rather than @@NATION@@ or whatever. Nice idea, though.

:p (Buries Fris, tries to think of witty response... can't... bangs head on wall and continues on)

3 billion is kind of an odd number. It is, on average, a year and a half. 4 billion, or two years, would seem more appropriate.

The extra large inbox I wouldn't mind, and the custom paragraph probably wouldn't be so bad either. It would give people a chance to show what they've done in the game without having to fuss around with Wikipedia coding, and it's in-game. The rest wouldn't be all that special, expecially the macros. For many, it would be easier and/or shorter to just type the name itself rather than @@NATION@@ or whatever. Nice idea, though.Naw, the macro would say the name of the nation that was viewing the page, just like in issues.

I just wish I would have known about this game sooner and joined in November 2002.

The ideas seem reasonable, but its rewards could be devided differently:

A larger inbox is always nice, but isn't that something a UN Delegate could use as well?
A longer title might be swell, but does it really need to be thát long? It would only deform the tables in NS.
Adding macro's to the title/motto of nations seems a little dumb, since you can already do that yourself. No need to give the admin anyMORE work.

The ideas seem reasonable, but its rewards could be devided differently:

A larger inbox is always nice, but isn't that something a UN Delegate could use as well?
A longer title might be swell, but does it really need to be thát long? It would only deform the tables in NS.
Adding macro's to the title/motto of nations seems a little dumb, since you can already do that yourself. No need to give the admin anyMORE work.And what about the custom paragraph? By you not arguing against that make it okay in your mind?

[Yes... longevity rewards for "loyal players". I believe that once you reach, say, 4.9 billion or so, you should get a SMITE button to use on fellow members of your region.... :D But in all seriousness-- I like this idea too... I just hope it doesn't require an obscene amount of code to implement. --Felix]

I beileve 5 bil is to high make it 1.67bn j/k but I would seriously wait until 5 bn because I have only seen two people with pops that high and I asprie to stay here as long as ns can stay alve (hopefully till the end of time)

True it would take a lot of code but so what think of the possiblites

Three, four, or five billion are irrelevant waypoints. All it says is that you share the general insanity of this place enough to hang around this long. You don't need a reward, you need medication.


I can see you are so *not* an enabler ... or are you? ;)

The choice is yours though ... we can be self medicated, or you can structure the course of our medication and give us a rope with which to hang ourselves on.

Frisbeeteria is just jealous.

Frisbeeteria is just jealous.

Possibly. It may be that he is unable to reach the heights of insanity that the rest of us have. Poor fellow. ;)

Granting of special priviliges to older nations is unfair. The allowance for nations of over 500 million to create custom nation titles is bad enough. I urge the administration to not aggrivate the issue. If you wish to open more features, do so for all players.

Granting of special priviliges to older nations is unfair. The allowance for nations of over 500 million to create custom nation titles is bad enough. I urge the administration to not aggrivate the issue. If you wish to open more features, do so for all players.
It would be a great factor however, into persuading people to stay more active in the game, instead of letting their nation cease to exist.

Due to various reasons both personal and not, I will not be making any significant changes to the NS codebase in the forseeable future.

Due to various reasons both personal and not, I will not be making any significant changes to the NS codebase in the forseeable future.
That's too bad. :(

Will it be considered for NS2?

NS2 will probably be different enough that many ideas will not translate.

NS2 will probably be different enough that many ideas will not translate.
I see. Thank you.