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I know this has to do with UN but it is also in a technical sense.. well, technical.

SOMEBODY FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS HOLY AND MERCIFUL PLEASE GOD OH GOD PLEASE CHANGE THE PROPOSAL TIME FROM 3 DAYS TO 7 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Why?
There would be a greater chance of this happening if you made a convincing argument.

And do you me for approving the proposals or voting on the resolutions?

I think that the current system is fine.

approving proposals

[the following is a non-moddish, non-admin response]

The current system works just fine. Well promoted, well-thought-out proposals make it through in the requisite time. Less well-received proposals fall by the wayside, as most of them deserve

What may appear to be apathy is quite frequently dislike of the proposals offered. It's difficult to come up with something that fits in the (relatively few) available categories that doesn't also conflict with existing law. Most of the proposal authors don't do a very good job of it, and even fewer seek the resources of the UN forum to make their proposals better.

Apart from "We wannnnts it, Preciousss!", what other justification do you offer for your suggestion?

I think that a simple solution in order to improve the UN system of approvals could be that only delegates with at least 2 endorsement can approve the proposals. In this way the quorum will be more small and only active delegates (it seems that only great regional delegates are the active ones) partecipate to the actions.

I think that a simple solution in order to improve the UN system of approvals could be that only delegates with at least 2 endorsement can approve the proposals. In this way the quorum will be more small and only active delegates (it seems that only great regional delegates are the active ones) partecipate to the actions.
This wouldn't help any, most delegates already have more that 2 endorsements.

Personally I think that the system works just fine the way it is and no changes are needed.

This wouldn't help any, most delegates already have more that 2 endorsements.

Personally I think that the system works just fine the way it is and no changes are needed.

Actually, not. About 40% of delegates have only 1 endorsment.

The required percentage for quorum seems to me to be set up such that the UN has the time to handle the issues which make quorum (so no huge queue builds up) while avoiding large periods without there not being a proposal up for vote.

Altering other parameters will IMHO simply mean that the percentage for quorum will have to be adjusted in the opposite direction to still have roughly the same number of proposals per timeperiod making it to the floor of the UN. So, a lengthening of the time proposals are up for vote means:
- the queue of proposals will get larger.
- proposals will tend to get more votes and so the quorum percentage will have to be set higher: proposals will need more votes to make it to the UN floor.

Having fewer (presumed inactive) delegates count towards quorum means the percentage will have to be increased as well.

The major question to me is hence not quantitative but qualitative:
- Do delegates get sufficient opportunity to discuss / ponder the proposals?
- Are the best proposals making it unto the UN floor?

We don't want a huge queue cause that will simply mean a lot of the proposals way in the back are unnoticed until they move further up. It functions as a delay and may actually demotivate delegates. They might not look through the queue because it becomes too much effort.

Currently I don't see the UN having the time to consider more proposals, so in proposing a UN resolution you're basically competing with others for "UN time". Increasing the time all proposals are out there will increase the votes your proposal gets, but will also increase the votes on the other proposals.

Ballotonia

Actually, not. About 40% of delegates have only 1 endorsment.
And you know this, how?

And you know this, how?

Because when I made a telegram campaign, I had saw it.

@Ballotonia: if the proposal list is too large, why not give only to delegates the possibility to do them?

i'm sorry, i'm new here, but i just can't seem to give my approval to a proposal. maybe i'm doing something exceedlingly incorrectly. stranger things have happened.

i'm confused.

please help.

i'm sorry, i'm new here, but i just can't seem to give my approval to a proposal. maybe i'm doing something exceedlingly incorrectly. stranger things have happened.

i'm confused.

please help.
Are you your region's UN delegate?
Only delegates can approve proposals.

Any UN member with two or more endorsements can, however, submit a proposal, and any UN member, endorsements or not, can vote on resolutions. Also, any NS user, UN or not, can debate on the UN forums.

Way to not really answer his/her (sorry, don't know) question.

If you are the UN Delegate of your region, you go to the proposal list, and at the bottom of each proposal, there should be a small link that says "Approve this Proposal" or "Withdraw Approval" if you already have.

If you're not the UN Delegate, you cannot approve proposals - you can only vote on the RaV, currently "Repeal 'Education for All'".

And if you're not a UN member, I have no idea why you're asking that in the first place. :p