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Hiyas, all.

Not sure if this is the right place to put this but...

I'm getting quite frustrated with what's happening to my nation. It has been listed as "Anarchy" for over three weeks now. But I've passed legislation on over 30 issues with no effect.

Apparently, anarchy is the absence of government, correct? I've passed a considerable number of issues, so that act itself should change my government to say, a Democracy or Corporate type of government, as my nation is business and civil rights oriented.

Surely, 3 weeks of constantly answering 2 issues a day should change my nation from Anarchy to something else?

Can anyone help me out, how to change Anarchy to an actual government? Is it possible, or would I require a moderator to change it?

Thank you.

~Rand

Is it possible, or would I require a moderator to change it?

I know the moderators cannot and will not change that type of data related to your nation; however, I'm not an expect on how issues affect your national description and UN Category, but I'm sure someone else will be able to guide you in the right direction. :)

It's not a matter of having passed issues, It's a matter of how you pass issues. You get the anarchy classification when you have high degrees of personal, political, and economic freedoms. If you were to pass laws taking freedoms away, the catagory would change.

Also, anarchy isn't really no govenment, just a non-centeralized government. It is a direct democracy system. An anarchist society would have no Congress passing laws, but individuals collectively determining how the society would run. Just because you have the anarchy classification, it doesn't mean people are running around the streets with pointy sticks screaming, "Woo-Hoo! No government! Let's go nuts!" The people of your nation are probably in meeting halls voting on the issues of the day.

It's not a matter of having passed issues, It's a matter of how you pass issues. You get the anarchy classification when you have high degrees of personal, political, and economic freedoms. If you were to pass laws taking freedoms away, the catagory would change.

Also, anarchy isn't really no govenment, just a non-centeralized government. It is a direct democracy system. An anarchist society would have no Congress passing laws, but individuals collectively determining how the society would run. Just because you have the anarchy classification, it doesn't mean people are running around the streets with pointy sticks screaming, "Woo-Hoo! No government! Let's go nuts!" The people of your nation are probably in meeting halls voting on the issues of the day.

Thanks for the input.

Does this actually mean that I gotta lower my Civil Rights to have an effect, as in lowering them from Superb to Excellent?

could try lowering political freedoms

heh. You don't know how long I've been trying to get to anarchy, and here I am trying to get you out of it.

Does this actually mean that I gotta lower my Civil Rights to have an effect, as in lowering them from Superb to Excellent?
Well, you're going to have to lower either your political freedoms, civil rights, or economic freedoms, or a combination of freedoms. I'm not sure moving your civil rights down one notch from superb to excellent will be enough to change your UN catagory. I just looked at a few anarchies in my region. One nation has superb civil rights and political freedoms like you do, but it's economic freedoms is two notches below yours at powerhouse. However, if my memory serves correct, I've had my nation with a frightening economy, superb civil rights, and my political freedoms two steps below seperb at very good, and I was ranked as capitalizt.

Of course, if you know what UN catagory you want, you could click this link (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Tindalos/nspoliticalmap.jpg) to see how to get there.

heh. You don't know how long I've been trying to get to anarchy, and here I am trying to get you out of it.


Well, you're going to have to lower either your political freedoms, civil rights, or economic freedoms, or a combination of freedoms. I'm not sure moving your civil rights down one notch from superb to excellent will be enough to change your UN catagory. I just looked at a few anarchies in my region. One nation has superb civil rights and political freedoms like you do, but it's economic freedoms is two notches below yours at powerhouse. However, if my memory serves correct, I've had my nation with a frightening economy, superb civil rights, and my political freedoms two steps below seperb at very good, and I was ranked as capitalizt.

Of course, if you know what UN catagory you want, you could click this link (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Tindalos/nspoliticalmap.jpg) to see how to get there.

Thanks for the link. I appreciate it a lot, bro.

I'm honestly curious. Is Anarchy unique or rare to NS? I mean, is there only an handful of nations that has Anarchy type of government?

The more I think about it, Anarchy isn't essentially a bad thing. :)

I'm honestly curious. Is Anarchy unique or rare to NS? I mean, is there only an handful of nations that has Anarchy type of government?

I think there are a far share of Anarchic nations, although I think that it is one of the harder classifications to keep and maintain, as opposed to Inoffensive Centrist Democracy or whatnot.

Also, it seems to me that the older my nations get, the harder it is for me to change the UN Categories. Is this a game function or has anyone else noticed this?

...Is Anarchy unique or rare to NS? I mean, is there only an handful of nations that has Anarchy type of government?...
I would imagine that it is fairly rare. According to this link (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=nationstats), which is pretty old but interesting non-the-less, it is rare. There are quite a few in my region, however.


...I think that it is one of the harder classifications to keep and maintain, as opposed to Inoffensive Centrist Democracy or whatnot...
Yeah. Also, the issues are designed to give one thing you want, but make you give up on something else. You may make a decision that helps your citizens civil rights, but the decision could also lower economic freedoms. It's tricky to balance out all your decisions to maintain or achieve anarchy.


...Also, it seems to me that the older my nations get, the harder it is for me to change the UN Categories. Is this a game function or has anyone else noticed this?
Issues have a cummulative effect. I wanted my nation to reflect having a defense budget after a long time of going against defense related issues. I would select the pro defense stance, wait for the update, then check a GDP calc. It took several defense issues to to come up before the calc registered Tiborita having over a 0% defense budget.

Thanks for the link. I appreciate it a lot, bro.

I'm honestly curious. Is Anarchy unique or rare to NS? I mean, is there only an handful of nations that has Anarchy type of government?

The more I think about it, Anarchy isn't essentially a bad thing. :)

Anarchy is fairly rare in NS...I think about 1.5% of nations are classified as an anarchy. I'm one of them. :)