NationStates Jolt Archive


Several part proposal idea.

Free-Armsdonia
05-11-2004, 18:58
Idea here. I (and possibly others) are trying to put in proposals which are over the character limit. I try to put it in several parts, and apparently this is not allowed. Can anyone tell me why? :confused: And also why is there a chracter limit? :confused: I propose we either:
1. Raise the character limit considerably.
OR
2. Allow several part UN proposals.
Frisbeeteria
05-11-2004, 20:57
Or perhaps shorten the proposal to a length people will actually read. Post your entire proposal in the UN Forum and ask for help condensinig it. You'll get helped.
Hersfold
05-11-2004, 23:13
I was not aware that muliple part proposals were illegal. Is this in accordance with the "No amendments" rule, which has changed over the past few years?
Frisbeeteria
06-11-2004, 02:51
No, it has to do with the character limit on the proposal page, which I'm guessing is there to keep people from posting the entire text of War and Peace as a prank proposal.

By multi-part, I'm assuming the poster was asking why he can't continue his request in a second "Submit" window. As to that, each submission must be separately voted on, so you can't vote in Part A and automatically include Parts B, C, and D.

In the case of the Sexes Rights (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_Sexes_Rights_Law) proposal, Komokom and The Black New World broke their long (part Social Justice, part Human Rights) proposal and submitted it as two. One made Quorum, one didn't. Passage of one did nothing towards passage of the other.

What I want to know is, what can Free-Armsdonia have to say that can't be said in 5500 (which I think is the current limit) characters?
Hersfold
06-11-2004, 03:25
All right, I get what you are saying.

Free, like Fris said - if you can condense it, and possibly post the parts you cut out, that would probably be the best course of action. I doubt the mods will expand the limit. But, you never know...
The Most Glorious Hack
06-11-2004, 08:08
I was not aware that muliple part proposals were illegal. Is this in accordance with the "No amendments" rule, which has changed over the past few years?

Here's the line of logic I followed...

The proposal I deleted was actually contained in 4 parts, all quite long. The problem with this was that each part was not self contained. In essence, for the proposal to make any sense, all four parts would need to pass and become Resolutions, preferably all in a row and in the proper order. Imagine the confusion if Part 3 passed but no others.

Since the parts were not self contained entities (and since only 1 remained on the list), I decided that it really wasn't a good idea to let it go through. If a proposal was to have a Human Rights part and a Furtherment of Democracy part, and both were self contained entities that didn't rely on each other to make sense, I wouldn't have a problem. This proposal needed all four parts.

However, I didn't issue a warning for this, so no worries.