NationStates Jolt Archive

So, if my and my wife were to start one state each from this computer, and both become UN-members, we could then become banned?

- The Dominion of Schmetterlieb

Banned? No.

Ejected from the UN? There's a good chance, I'm afraid.

So, if my and my wife were to start one state each from this computer, and both become UN-members, we could then become banned?

- The Dominion of Schmetterlieb

Most likely. The game would probably read it as having multiple U.N. nations and eject you both from the U.N. You could still play the game though.

The only way I know of for you to solve the problem is to have one of you use a different computer.

I'm not good at these computer related issues, but I'm pretty sure our ISP only uses one IP for each account.

...and I'm pretty sure the FAQ states that use of multiple UN-states could result in getting all your states deleted? =)

Thanks for your time, Schmetterlieb

me and my wife use two laptops and a router

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but she wont play so i dont know if that will work

...and I'm pretty sure the FAQ states that use of multiple UN-states could result in getting all your states deleted? =)
It can result in nation deletion, but usually doesn't when there's only two nations linked. It all depends on other evidence available. If two nations were linked and engaging in other illegal activity (such as griefing) then they are more likely to be deleted.

However it would probably be best if just one of you joined, or took turns being in the UN. I'm afraid we can't tell who's actually sitting behind the computer.

However it would probably be best if just one of you joined, or took turns being in the UN. I'm afraid we can't tell who's actually sitting behind the computer.

Yes, you could, at least for those of us who have home networks (and provided we're not sad enough to run from PC to PC trying to make a cluster of our own countries. That's just sad.)

Considering that you already are able to get the host's IP, you could use the function built right into PHP called gethostbyaddr, feeding it the IP address you already have for any given user. If the hostname returns the same for both IPs, well, it's the same machine. If the hostname returns differently, then you've got two or more machines using one IP address. In that case, it's either the people mentioned above running from computer to computer, or it is my wife, my son, and I all trying to make our little colonies into bigger nations... well, they are. I'm just trying to govern my people with an Iron Hand, since I know what's better for them than they do.

Anyways. Yeah, there's a lot more possible than what's in place.

We use more than IPs. Unfortunately, for security reasons, we cannot describe our methods in detail.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Considering that you already are able to get the host's IP, you could use the function built right into PHP called gethostbyaddr, feeding it the IP address you already have for any given user. If the hostname returns the same for both IPs, well, it's the same machine. If the hostname returns differently, then you've got two or more machines using one IP address. In that case, it's either the people mentioned above running from computer to computer, or it is my wife, my son, and I all trying to make our little colonies into bigger nations... well, they are.

Still not sufficient. I've been places with networked computers, and use whichever computer is handy when I want to log on. Without being able to look through your screen and visually verify, the ruling stands.

We use more than IPs. Unfortunately, for security reasons, we cannot describe our methods in detail.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

I'm guessing a cookie without expiration, a second session cookie, checking for global and multiple session cookies, and IP logging (and since this is Vbulliten, mods can always look at the IP of where a given post was made from on the forum too). I'd have to think longer about it to give it a serious thought about verification measures.

Please note, this is not an attempt to expose or overcome your verifications. I'm just a geek who gets curious about things and likes to think. I also understand that you won't be telling me if this is correct or incorrect. As I said, I'm just a geek who likes to think.

Still not sufficient. I've been places with networked computers, and use whichever computer is handy when I want to log on. Without being able to look through your screen and visually verify, the ruling stands.

Oh, please, pardon me. I didn't mean to come across as if I was wanting to change the rules and rulings in the game. I was just saying for theoretical s*^%s and giggles.

If it helps get back in the good graces of whomever runs the show around here, my house runs three countries; my wifes, my son, and mine. I freely admit that there should be three countries coming from my IP. Only one of us is in the UN, my son. I used to be but then he signed up to be in so I resigned. None of us are in the same area of the world, either.. not sure if that would affect anything, but I added it to freely disseminate information and allay any worries that I'm a cheater.

For your protection, it would be better if only one of you had a UN nation at any given time.

.. yes, I realize that Karmabaijan, given that I already said that only one of us will ever be UN at any given time since it is against the rules.

If you followed the conversation, we've engaged lightly into a technical discussion about what could be done to help verify who was at the keyboard in the event of married peoples (such as my situation) both wanting to be UN. It is not a discussion, at least in my part, about actually doing it; rather it is a theoretical discussion about how it could be possible, which has ended due to the fact that there is no way to prove that the people behind the keyboard are who they are. We could only prove which computer it was accessing the site.

At any rate, your suggestion has already been established. Thanks for the refresher.