NationStates Jolt Archive

random update was asked for by defenders and then they ask for it to be removed, interesting, I also find it interesting that a Defender is now complaining because Sal fixed another Loophole that they were exploiting.

Sucks when you get caught cheating huh?

oh goodie..

random update was asked for by defenders and then they ask for it to be removed, interesting, I also find it interesting that a Defender is now complaining because Sal fixed another Loophole that they were exploiting.
BS loop, show me the thread where a defender asked for it.

Sucks when you get caught cheating huh?

care to elaborate?


as for the "loophole": i only used it once, loopy, to liberate..also, there's nothing sneaky about it, and the rest of your post shows you know nothing about how we pulled this off, and no, i'm not gonna tell you :p

well, i'd think that if someone was in a region and that regino updated, then moves to another region, and endorses someone there, with update, his or her endorsement is removed, meaning we can only defend (or invade) one region each update....
it is highly annoying indeed, you think you're safe, and then you're not.


You elaborated yourself.

oh goodie..


BS loop, show me the thread where a defender asked for it.



care to elaborate?


as for the "loophole": i only used it once, loopy, to liberate..also, there's nothing sneaky about it, and the rest of your post shows you know nothing about how we pulled this off, and no, i'm not gonna tell you :p

First off the thread was on the old forums,
Second,
Youand Free for all determined the Delegate to be, then, you had people make naitons which had a Yahoo address and they sent the Nation and Yahoo password to yourself or Free for all, who then joined the UN with the nation (so you claimed) and youfed it a doctored endorsemnt link for a naiton that was never UN, to protect its identity from Prying Eyees. you then dropped the naiton from the UN, and gave it back to the owner, with the orders to rejoin the UN at a set time, whereupon the target nation would also join UN, therefore
after you had done this Many times, yousent out the order for all involved to rejoin the UN, thereby putting alot of sudden automatic endorsements on the target,

you can prance , dance, and claim this isnt how it worked, but your Master Plan is an old idea, and was used by the National Stalinists, it is an old idea, and those of us who have been around have known about it or some form of it for quite some time. it is exploitation of a Loophole in the games engine and should be Illegal.

First off the thread was on the old forums,
Come off on it, loop, every thread that was on the old forums is here. You just have no way to back up what you're talking about.

loop, that's not the way we did it, but thanks for the good laugh :p :rolleyes:

Juxt, what you listed will be fixed.

There are three types of actions that can be taken in this game:
1) Those actions directly permitted by the rules.
2) Those actions that are unforseen consequences of the rules (invasions themselves were an example of this, but have since moved to the first catagory).
3) Those actions that exploit a flaw in the code.

Those in the first category are (of course) allowed. Those in the second are reviewed (and often allowed), those in the third are always fixed. We aren't like Microsoft in that we'll reclassify a bug as a feature.

That is one of the reasons I consider Sal to be right up there with Groovy stuff like Microwaves and Broadband access, he gets it done.
and I am glad to see the Loophole that CG's folk were exploiting is to be closed up.
and CG, regardless of what you may want to claim, Invasion is Invasion,
just like a Kitten is a Kitten regardless , if it is born in the Oven you wouldnt call it a cake?

and once again, da loop manages to make no sense at all in a post....maybe we need someone able to translate his posts? :p

loop, that's not the way we did it, but thanks for the good laugh :p :rolleyes:

Claim whatever you want to help you sleep at night, I dont feel like letting you degreade this thread into a flamewar, Im just glad to see the Piko Piko hammer of Justice Squeeking on your heads for a change.

Also, Unfree, I would post a link to the exact thread I refeer to, but I just dont feellike searching for it, but yes Just before when Random updates were introduced, several Defender~Invaders whined saying it was necessary.

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ZYUMON/movgif01/piko2.gif
the gif is kinda carpy, Ill make a new one of it, whoever made this version didnt doo that good of a Job.

well, this thread WAS about endorsements dropping, then you lot suddenly start about this loophole/bug/whatever the hell you want to call it, shamelessly hijacking the thread.

please, stop.

OK, loop, but it takes two to make a flamewar. Can we let this go and let Salusa make a decision now?

10-4 UP, but please take note that her posts are the more inflamatory.

i'm sure that in your little world, they are, loopy-dear :rolleyes:

Claim whatever you want to help you sleep at night, I dont feel like letting you degreade this thread into a flamewar, Im just glad to see the Piko Piko hammer of Justice Squeeking on your heads for a change.

Justice?!?

You seem to insist that despite us doing what we did (which is quite different from what you describe above... I never asked for access to anyones email account) after [violet] declared it legal to use, that it was somehow still in violation of NS rules and that Sal's changing the implementation to make it impossible in the future somehow counts as a punishment...

Obviously, I object to this interpretation. Making sure it is allowed is why I asked [violet] in the first place, before doing anything at all. Had [violet] declared it illegal to use, I obviously wouldn't have done it.

Ballotonia

Thread lock?

Split from the Endorcements Dropping thread.

Thanks, Hack.

/hugs

I'm reviewing the exact ruling on the invasion tactic used by CG. Might I also remind people that this thread will only remain open as long as it is civil?

Edit: Point taken regarding Pacific invasion plans and rulings thereon. No changes will be made regarding handling of endorsements at this point in time.

On loopholes:

"]I can't set policy on the great unknown of what might ever go wrong with the game. But as a general principle, I don't mind the odd unexpected event throwing up a bit of spice. And furthermore, I expect players to take advantage of the game's rules, whatever they are. So if there's a temporary glitch that lets you accomplish your aims and nobody's said you can't exploit it, I expect you to try to exploit it.

If, however, we had a major game problem -- for example, a bug that let you create a nation with the same name as somebody else's, and yours erased theirs -- then I would absolutely take action to stop this as fast as possible (and probably boot anyone out of NationStates who was doing it deliberately). Similarly, griefing is always going to be against the rules, and a glitch that helps people to grief is still illegal.

So it depends on the glitch. But if it's relatively mild, non-destructive, and the mods haven't ruled against it, you should feel pretty confident about exploiting it.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=5445953#post5445953

lol

I'd never seen that before...that's great.