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Greetings,
I would like to propose to you an option. Either you can continue the monotonous approach that is Nationstates, or you can help start a revolution.
Still interested?
I am attempting a coup with the game of Nationstates to establish an alternative world governing body within the game. The United Nations is a flavorless bore with no drive, and no direction. Their ludicrious issues and tyrannical oppression only hamper the enjoyment of the game.
I am looking for revolutionaries; nations willing to join in my opposition to the UN for the creation of an alternative governing body. Of course I shall need strong support to produce a loud voice of dissent among the masses. Once a massive appeal is brought before the UN, the game has no choice but the creation of alternatives to the United Nations.
Would you be willing to assist? After all, what else shall you concern yourself with in the meantime? Daily issues and dull chat boards?
Join the Revolution!
Royal Chancellor Green Baron
The Nation of Voyuerism
The region of the "Anti United Nations"

Rebel all you want, it wont change the game setup.

Oh puh-lease! What is it with anti-UN organisations?

*makes use of the crazy new emoticons*

:headbang: :sniper:

I hate to tell you this but the Revolution has already begun. A long time ago when NS was new, those of us who are against the UN simply didn't join. We don't follow their rules. It is that simple.

Now if you are tired of the meaningless " Daily issues and dull chat boards" I suggest that you learn how to Role Play.

Sooo...

you're saying you want to declare war? Many people will fire their ignore cannons at your troops

How you see yourself:
http://www.rantradio.com/pics/graphicsmisc/shade-rr-che.jpg


How everyone sees you:
http://www.synco.com/step1a.jpg

Here's what you do. Come to the North Pacific. Join OUR revolution. We have a dictator in charge of our 7000 nations. Anyone caught opposing him is banned. Sound like fun? Come rescue us.

Visit our boardsHere (http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?) .

What's with all the laissez-faire attitude? One person CAN start a revolution. The problem is that most people here choose to remain apathetic and not champion a cause.
To think that the makers of the game are immune to mass dissentment is to lay down and obey! A massive garnering of individuals bombarding the game with demands of equality and an expansion of the game in the name of entertainment MUST and WILL be heard from the makers of the game. If you had millions of angry e-mails and forum posting demanding change, you would either change or shut down the site. This site pulls too much endorsement for Max Barry for him to shut it down. Therefore, they would have no choice but to change to game to appeal to the masses!
All I'm asking is for an organization of opposition. This isn't an individual region control, this is one that will actually effect the nations that reside within, just like the UN! It's about time that votes were brought forth that actually had meaning and were un-edited by the makers of the game.
Join my revolution. What the heck else are you going to do? Sit there and enjoy the dull nationstates as is? I'm not saying it isn't good, I'm saying it could be better, MUCH BETTER. Bring some entertainment. Heck, just writing this plea for a revolution has brought entertainment to my day! Just give it a try and put some meaning into your existence on this website!

We already have Anti-Un groups all over. If you are against the UN, the Alliance of Independent States is for you. Join the region, live by your own rules, and be a happy ruler.

If you don't like the UN, don't join them. It's that simple. :)

Here's what you do. Come to the North Pacific. Join OUR revolution. We have a dictator in charge of our 7000 nations. Anyone caught opposing him is banned. Sound like fun? Come rescue us.

Visit our boardsHere (http://s2.invisionfree.com/The_North_Pacific/index.php?) .

Oh, that sounds a bit like me.

This revolution will never happen. You just hate the UN because it's 'cool' and 'trendy', just like with hating the US.

Do you have any GOOD reasons for hating the UN? If we didn't have an international governing body, we'll probably be in World War 7 [OOC: NationStates history has 6 world wars].

Holy Republic of Seriphyn
Foreign Office

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. Nothing you do is going to change the game mechanics. The UN will continue to run the way it always has. It's how the game is set up. I never really got all the anti-UN people. If you don't like it, don't join. No one is making you, and its decisions don't affect non-member nations. Morons

What's with all the laissez-faire attitude? One person CAN start a revolution. The problem is that most people here choose to remain apathetic and not champion a cause.

Well, that and the fact that they don't have the ability to change the code of the game...

To think that the makers of the game are immune to mass dissentment is to lay down and obey! A massive garnering of individuals bombarding the game with demands of equality and an expansion of the game in the name of entertainment MUST and WILL be heard from the makers of the game.

No, it won't. This was created as a lark.

If you had millions of angry e-mails and forum posting demanding change, you would either change or shut down the site.

Or ignore it.

This site pulls too much endorsement for Max Barry for him to shut it down.

That's debatable.

I'm not saying it isn't good, I'm saying it could be better, MUCH BETTER. Bring some entertainment. Heck, just writing this plea for a revolution has brought entertainment to my day! Just give it a try and put some meaning into your existence on this website!
Perhaps you should meander on over to the NationStates2 forum. Bring some actual concrete suggestions (as opposed to "make it better!"), and they'll be taken under consideration.

YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THE UNITED NATIONS, VOYEURISM!!!

Its a PART of the game! Its not like in real life, where if you do ethnic cleansing you'll get banned for it! YOU ARE UNAFFECTED BY THE UNITED NATIONS IF YOU DON'T JOIN, UNLIKE IN REAL LIFE. Seriously, this is stupid and moronic.

Its like trying to get rid of the guns in a first person shooter.

STOP!

YOU CAN'T GET RID OF THE UNITED NATIONS, VOYEURISM!!!

Its a PART of the game! Its not like in real life, where if you do ethnic cleansing you'll get banned for it! YOU ARE UNAFFECTED BY THE UNITED NATIONS IF YOU DON'T JOIN, UNLIKE IN REAL LIFE. Seriously, this is stupid and moronic.

Its like trying to get rid of the guns in a first person shooter.

STOP!

No, you didn't read my message, infantile! I have no desire to get rid of the United Nations. I have no desire to join simply because they refuse to have a little laugh every now and then. You have sent two message refuting what you thought I said. Only 1 problem: THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID!!!

Seriously, read the message first. It helps if you quote them too. I said I am for UN opposition....now if the UN didn't exist, IT WOULDN'T HAVE OPPOSITION NOW WOULD IT?????!!!!!

I would like the creation of alternative world governing organizations without the dictatorship control of the UN. You can bow down and submit if you want, and be bored into a coma; however, I thought, why not garner a movement for alterment of the game in order to entertain myself and perhaps some other people.

And mods....I've heard your responses several times that the game will not be changed.....this is an expected response. Obviously the ruling class will tell the oppressed that nothing will change.

I'm simply in this for entertainment value. It is a game after all, right?

:mp5: die revolutionists

*sigh*

Now I know that I am back on NS. I return here after over one year, and what do I see? Anti-UN post. Is it a bloody trademark of NS?

The UN opposite would be an interesting innovation, but what would be the point? When you want to be a dictator, or simply not care for its resolutions, don't join. Any other major world organisation could be simply RPed here, on the forums.

*sigh*

Now I know that I am back on NS. I return here after over one year, and what do I see? Anti-UN post. Is it a bloody trademark of NS?

The UN opposite would be an interesting innovation, but what would be the point? When you want to be a dictator, or simply not care for its resolutions, don't join. Any other major world organisation could be simply RPed here, on the forums.

*sigh* *cough* *vomit*

Did you not even read my reasons for opposition or my plans?

First off....you "don't join if you don't like it" has been reiterated by dozens before you, several in this exact same thread of posts. Yes, I've heard this point, and it's a point well-taken, except for the fact that it's BORING, APATHETIC, DULL, AND SUBSERVIENT! Why not start something and join a movement that actually matters instead of sitting on your hands and saying, "well, it sucks, but what difference does it make, what do I care, this game is boring". Yah, well DO SOMETHING, instead of just sitting back and boring yourself.

Second.....the United Nations resolutions affect your nations, role-playing doesn't. My movement stands for the creation of an alternative organization whose resolutions would affect your nation. It has nothing to do with dictatorship (aside from the UN being one), or wanting to run a corporate police state nation, or what have you. It's about offering alternatives!

If you don't want to get involved, then fine, don't. But don't be posting on my thread subjects that have already been brought up a dozen times on why you shouldn't; because I don't care! Just like if you don't care about my post, don't read it!

I am looking for recruits, not dissenters. Dissenters are the pansies that join the UN and are subservient to the dictatorship. Nations of action are those that rise up with me. Together we will create an alternative organization, once that allows choices in a game, instead of "be subservient or independent". Sorry, how about join one of these fine organizations, here's a list, or you can be independent. Then we can actually have some enjoyment in this game, instead of starting revolutions against a tyrannical dictatorship within the game itself.

The current system works fine, or at least well enough that the Max and [violet] don't feel like meddling with it for NS, or maybe even NS2. If you think its stagnant, why not work from within system of the UN to make it more lively? All that you will accomplish by flaming people is being DEATed and giving someone extra Mod Olympics points.

Suggestions to change game mechanics (including adding alternative global organizations) belong on "Technical".

iMove http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/images/icons/icon2.gif "Technical".

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

*sigh* *cough* *vomit*

Did you not even read my reasons for opposition or my plans?
*sigh* *cough* *vomit*

Did you not even read that this has been done *oh so many* times before? Your phrasing isn't especially interesting. Your nation is so new it squeaks. You haven't delved back into the forums to see how it's been done before nor made any attempt to have a *new, improved* version.

NS members are being polite in their responses to you (with one or two exceptions), and your response is to attack. Sorry, we'll be taking back that Dale Carnegie award about winning friends and influencing people.

Go join one of the dozens or hundreds of other Anti-UN regions or boards, and quite wasting our time with this one.

*sigh* *cough* *vomit*

Did you not even read that this has been done *oh so many* times before?

And therefore qualifies it as not capable of working? Democracy failed in the past as well....thank God you weren't there when it was being reborn


Your phrasing isn't especially interesting.

To each his own


Your nation is so new it squeaks. You haven't delved back into the forums to see how it's been done before nor made any attempt to have a *new, improved* version.

Obviously you haven't been around long enough to realize people have multiple nations; aside from the fact that generally with *new* ideas comes *new* people. And if you read my goals...it is a *new improved* version to which I propose.


NS members are being polite in their responses to you (with one or two exceptions), and your response is to attack. Sorry, we'll be taking back that Dale Carnegie award about winning friends and influencing people.

First off, if you read my reply, I never attacked the person I was responding too. Unless you count *sigh* *cough* *vomit* an attack; in which case, you are too sensitive to notice sarcasm. However, the fact remains that you are a liar. I never attacked anyone, I addressed the issues brought up and advised them to read the previous posts to gather their answer to the question that had been previously asked several times already.
Second, I could care less of politeness. What I don't like is repetition of the exact same point which was brought up several times by several people only a few posts beforehand and not reading my response to that issue! And I shall, in the future, attack those people in order to make a point, as this person isn't the first to repeat issues or the last.


Go join one of the dozens or hundreds of other Anti-UN regions or boards, and quite wasting our time with this one.

The other regions just sit back and do nothing...I am proposing action and this is my recruitment drive. I am asking for recruits (had you read my previous post you would have seen that). If you don't want to be a recruit, then don't read the message nor reply. I think that addresses your wasting your time point, as you wasted your own time by entering a thread with the title "Nationstates Revolution", I had nothing to do with it.
Next time, if you're not interested, then mind your own business. I don't enter your threads entitled "Boy meats World Fanatics", so stay out of mine. So in other words....had you properly read my previous post, all these issues were already addressed and your post should have never been posted.

Dude, this isnt going to work. Give it up.

*sigh*

Do I really have to dig up various old threads where this has been proposed and rejected?

(Goober, I'm offering to help. :P)

What's with all the laissez-faire attitude? One person CAN start a revolution. The problem is that most people here choose to remain apathetic and not champion a cause.

Nice words. Euphonious. Flashy. You'd make a great speech writer. However, I do hope that in the future you write things that have actual meaning, and I do hope that you realize what laissez-faire means.


To think that the makers of the game are immune to mass dissentment is to lay down and obey!


Precisely. Because, you see, NationStates is a service that is provided, free of charge, to you. The people who designed NS and maintain it are doing you a great service. Don't like it, then leave. Either way, stop bitching about it. This would've worked as a speech in Nazi germany, but you have to realize that this is...quite different.


A massive garnering of individuals bombarding the game with demands of equality and an expansion of the game in the name of entertainment MUST and WILL be heard from the makers of the game.


I wasn't aware that the gamemakers are at the mercy of non-paying, incessantly whining users. If you think this is threatening blackmail and you're scaring the mods, then you have a serious flaw in logic.

This site pulls too much endorsement for Max Barry for him to shut it down.

Let's see, perhaps because this is Max Barry's site?


All I'm asking is for an organization of opposition


Ah. Mass revolting against the gamemakers. Very smart. In fact, I support this idea as well. Because once you lot are DEATed, the NS forums will be a more spam-free, congenial place to hang around.


Join my revolution. What the heck else are you going to do? Sit there and enjoy the dull nationstates as is?


What else am I going to do? Go to II, roleplay, hang around in general from time to time, participate in the UN, and of course my first priorities, junior year in high school. I feel absolutely no need to join your pitifully misguided revolution.


I'm not saying it isn't good, I'm saying it could be better, MUCH BETTER. Bring some entertainment. Heck, just writing this plea for a revolution has brought entertainment to my day! Just give it a try and put some meaning into your existence on this website!

Are you suggesting that this website doesn't have a point because there aren't two UN systems? You are sadly mistaken, my friend. If you don't like the fact that there's only one UN, go somewhere else.

Granted, I think it would be cool if regions could have an optional proposal/resolution system that affected their nations, but you're just going about it the wrong way. That, and a UN duplicate is absolutely pointless. You see, any change in game mechanics that you want, you can add a suggestion in Technical or NS2. You don't try to blackmail or force the mods into doing it. With this suggestion, the mods would - and have - say no. Simple. Got it?


However, the fact remains that you are a liar. I never attacked anyone


Oh, the sheer hypocrisy!


Next time, if you're not interested, then mind your own business.


You obviously do not understand the relationship between provider and user...therefore other players have taken it upon themselves to explain this in a manner that is about as congenial as possible.

You also don't seem to like NS. Then go somewhere else and mind your own business.

I think you need to understand something Voyuerism, no matter how much you complain/ make suggestions, the game is not going to change. Ever.

This 'game' was created as a gag to help Max Barry sell his book. Minor improvements such as ignore lists and certain regional modifications have been made, but what you are suggesting is never EVER going to happen.

Don't like the UN? Don't join. Still not happy? Then log off, go outside, and do something else.

Voyuerism is right. We do need an anti-UN organization, one that affects the game the way the UN does. What I propose is that Voyuerism writes all the code for the new structure, then gets the rights from Max Barry for what I assume is copyrighted code to this game, then integrates the new code into the existing code, then debugs the new, combined code, then advertises and recruits the new organization. That should be pretty easy.

Voyuerism is right. We do need an anti-UN organization, one that affects the game the way the UN does. What I propose is that Voyuerism writes all the code for the new structure, then gets the rights from Max Barry for what I assume is copyrighted code to this game, then integrates the new code into the existing code, then debugs the new, combined code, then advertises and recruits the new organization. That should be pretty easy.

ooc: *an explosion of helpless, hysterical giggling, swelling up into full-throated laughter*

Oh puh-lease! What is it with anti-UN organisations?

*makes use of the crazy new emoticons*

:headbang: :sniper:

Two emoticons battle to the death. All that seperates them is a brick wall. Who shall prevail?

Revenge!
Vengeful!
Vengence!
Revengenceful!

Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!

See crazy little emoticons bash their brains out and waste ridiculous amounts of ammo trying to get at each other

Cue applause