NationStates Jolt Archive


EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PRICE..the political point of this game?

Darinia
17-06-2004, 05:55
I enjoy this game and find that the issues are usually equally extreme. That is, the issues seem to present the various sides in a way that exposes the extreme pros and cons of each particular side. However, I find that issues tend to be liberal in origin ( in the american liberal sense (that is, social welfare)) more more than fiscally responsible. While there are many options that allow us to not take on more power, why can we not relinquish even more? Nonetheless, Just out of wondering, what does everyone think about the political leaning of this game, or is it truly unbiased?
Liverpool England
17-06-2004, 06:00
this game is unbiased; it was set up only to attract readers to the creator's book Jennifer Government.
Free Outer Eugenia
17-06-2004, 08:01
this game is unbiased; Hahahaha
That is funny.
Liverpool England
17-06-2004, 08:04
this game is unbiased; Hahahaha
That is funny.

The game is unbiased. Mods may be, or may not be, biased.
Free Outer Eugenia
17-06-2004, 08:28
The game was made by a human being with certain political conceptions and the game mechenics reflect that.
GMC Military Arms
17-06-2004, 08:47
The game was made by a human being with certain political conceptions and the game mechenics reflect that.

In that 100% tax is a hard upper limit and there are no negative consequences of increasing spending with taxes at 100%, giving socialist nations an advantage? I think the supposed negatives in the issues are more than balanced by said bigass bonus.
Free Outer Eugenia
17-06-2004, 09:01
Bias balanced with more bias. Most notably, this game has a statist bias and the economy is either run by corporations or the state.

I havn't read anything by Max other than his issues and I can tell you that he is a left-of-center moderate. I am not bitching about this game's bias, I'm just pointing out that it is there and that it is silly to deny it.
GMC Military Arms
17-06-2004, 09:03
Bias balanced with more bias. Most notably, this game has a statist bias and the economy is either run by corporations or the state.

Well ya, it is kinda called 'Nationstates' so that's really to be expected. And maybe to be changed in the elusive NS2, who knows.
Free Outer Eugenia
17-06-2004, 09:19
Like I said, I'm not complaining. Though having a syndicalist economy on an 'official' level would be nice.

What I really like about NS though will almost certainly be lost in NS2. NS is an open-ended webtoy. It doesn't tell you much and you get to fill in the blanks. The UN description provides only the most rudimentary input for your RP. It is at best a sort of a weak afirmation of your ideas, the closest thing that your nation has to a basis in reality because you do not have absolute control over it. It is more arbitrary then 'unbiased.' The stats are largly based on randomness and seniority, and the often senseless effects of the issues add a bit of live-and-learn stratagy to it.

I like trying to construct an Anarchist society in NS terms. For the past thirteen months or so I have kept government nonexistant and taxes low, but now I am going for a government that is indistinguishable from the rest of society (basically the same thing in my book) and a 100% tax-rate to represent the same social order, but from a different perspective regarding the interpretation of NS game mechanics.

All of the regional forums, alliances, maps, national websites are NS on a certain lvel. The webtoy that justifies it all is almost incidental.

Because NS2 will be more complex and systamatic, much of this will be lost. The RP and invader cultures that have developed here are also very interesting. My point? This 'game' is just simple and arbitrary enough to be organic.
GMC Military Arms
17-06-2004, 09:32
That's roughly my opinion on the subject, too, in fact. Outta my head.
Free Outer Eugenia
17-06-2004, 09:46
As the Russians say, 'idiots think alike' :wink:
Scotsnations
17-06-2004, 11:05
Does that mean that in Russia no-one agrees?
How do they govern that country then?

If you have read Jennifer Government you might appreciate the game a little more.

As adverts go, NationStates is a good one.