NationStates Jolt Archive

Hi

I was wondering will there ever be a day where the reserved list will be cleaned out.

My creativity is getting strained I am now on my 200th puppet and it hurts everytime I make a new one.

There are so many fantastic names out there just going to waste when active players like me would love to put them to use.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2806794#2806794

So the only reason that you don't release names is incase people who live in the forum might recognise them 6 months down the track.

I don't know the facts but I believe that most people who play this game don't actually use the forums. Everytime I look in here which is about once a month and I have been playing for over a year its the same people with just another 1000+ posts to their name.

I think we should stop catering for the forum people and once a name that is deleted due to inactvity it should be rereleased. Deleted because of cheating I can understand never allowing back in but if a person cant be bothered logging in once every 28 days let somone who will use that name daily have it.

So the only reason that you don't release names is incase people who live in the forum might recognise them 6 months down the track.

You didn't read carefully enough. I explained the problem with releasing names of nations who never used the forums as well.

Like I said I don't really like the forums and this information should be made more avialable for people who play the game and not use the forums rather then having to troll thorugh 50 pages of crap to find a simple answer.

Whilst I have just noticed it is only two pages it is still two much for someone who does not use the forums.

Like I said I don't really like the forums and this information should be made more avialable for people who play the game and not use the forums rather then having to troll thorugh 50 pages of crap to find a simple answer.

What would you have me do? We can't send every piece of information to every player every time they create a nation.

You came to the forums to ask a question, and I answered it. Seems pretty simple to me...

Actually you just sent me a link. How about creating a comprehensive FAQ like most games.

Actually you just sent me a link. How about creating a comprehensive FAQ like most games.

A link with the answer to your question, yes. I didn't think that having to click a link was too much work for you to do.

Well it depends if you care about your job as a moderator or not.

If I asked a teacher at school a question I hope they would not tell me to just go read a book.

Espically if they knew the answer to the question.

:shock:

*hugs Hack in comfort*

Well it depends if you care about your job as a moderator or not.

If I asked a teacher at school a question I hope they would not tell me to just go read a book.

Espically if they knew the answer to the question.
:shock:

He's answered your question, so why bother trying to get the admin to do a huge load of work? It tells you this when you try and get a name that has already been done

"There is already a nation in existence called "Myrth". Please select another name."


Clear Enough :?

The Bastard Mod From HellTM solution:
recycle the names of the other 199 nations owned by Atlas Shrugs. That should give Atlas Shrugs lots of names to chose from, and all of them are nation names priorly considered desireable to Atlas Shrugs!

Now, I can hear your counter argument coming up there... "But, those 199 other nations aren't dead!" True, but that's not something a Game Mod can't fix, and after all... the race in the next Mod Olympics has already started ;)

Bastard Mod From Hell
NOT A REAL MODERATOR

So what about recycling the names of nations which do not have an email address in the settings, because there is no way that you would be able to verify that that was there nation or not. And for the nations with email on them, email the nation and ask whether they want to keep there nation or not?

Well it depends if you care about your job as a moderator or not.

If I asked a teacher at school a question I hope they would not tell me to just go read a book.

Espically if they knew the answer to the question.

I do care about my "job" (for which I seem to get paid only in headaches and aggrivation), but I figured it was easier for me to give you the link, as opposed to copying that entire post (including BBCode) all over again, especially when you consider the fact that I'd written it already. I'm so sorry that I inconvenienced you by making you click a button.

As for your teacher analogy, if you asked your teacher how to do an algebra problem, would you expect them to sit down and do the problem for you, or say something like "open your math book to the end of Chapter 6, where they explain it"?

A "go look in a book" responce would be "check the forums". I told you exactly where your answer could be found.

Sheej. Are you honestly this worked up about it, or do you just have nothing better to do?

So what about recycling the names of nations which do not have an email address in the settings, because there is no way that you would be able to verify that that was there nation or not. And for the nations with email on them, email the nation and ask whether they want to keep there nation or not?

the first part is a good idea, the second part will not be done (max his own words)

Heck I want the Nation Name Loop but it is reserved for a fromer natin, you dont see me whining about it.

Personally I have my own beliefs about how name reservation should be but nichevo.

There are some former nation names out there I'd do anything to get - yes, loop, like 'Unfree' ;).

I understand why it is the way it is, but I've never stopped wishing it could be changed.

There are FAQs all over the place - one of which used to say that you couldn't use former nations' names when you were creating them. If we assume it still says that, then why the complaint a request for the creation of an FAQ?

What about recycling the names of RL nations? The are not really anyone's personal creation, and a message could be put up saying that the names of RL nations would be recycled if they die of inactivity.

What about recycling the names of RL nations? The are not really anyone's personal creation, and a message could be put up saying that the names of RL nations would be recycled if they die of inactivity.

Actually... I got my own suspicions about that.

I'm reasonably positive that real world nations were all created, and then allowed to die before the game went public, to force people to come up with their own nation names.

Hack - I can swear I've seen "Singapore"...

What about recycling the names of RL nations? The are not really anyone's personal creation, and a message could be put up saying that the names of RL nations would be recycled if they die of inactivity.

taht is atually a neat idea, could be problematic but neat.

Hack - I can swear I've seen "Singapore"...
Yeah. There was some real-world nation (or real-world place at least) whose name I was trying to use once for a puppet, and the site responded that it was in use rather than reserved. Wish I could remember what the name was, something Eastern European, I think.

Ok last night I was a bit drunk (a lot like tonight lol just in a better mood) and I am sorry hack man that I layed into you a bit harshly. But I am still going to stand by my point of view that there is absolutely no logical reason to keep so many nations names reserved.

If someone can’t be bothered logging in after 28 days let a nation who will use that name have it. It just makes sense

If there is a role playing problem I have the solution. Just let that nation not allowed to reside in the region that the old names use to live in.

The only problem left is the minority of forumnites might recognise past nations like that darky guy you mentioned.

But I still stand by my point that only a very small percentage of players use the forums so only a very small amount of people will be affected. Who cares about those players they already get so many advantages already - like friendship with mods.

I am not a new player to a game but I already know of two new players who were alienated because their chosen name was reserved by a dead nation. Now both of these players have lost interest and are dead nations. How many more new players are you going to kill just encase a new player in a year wants to play the game again.

I am not going to let this matter rest. When I become more sober tomorrow I am going to start a petition and really create a movement to re-release the old names. Everyone knows this is the logical move.

P.S very drunk right now so I apologise if you can not read my post I will edit it in the morning when I am sober.

Ok last night I was a bit drunk (a lot like tonight lol just in a better mood)

Perhaps posting while drunk isn't the wisest course of action.

and I am sorry hack man that I layed into you a bit harshly. But I am still going to stand by my point of view that there is absolutely no logical reason to keep so many nations names reserved.

I gave you reasons, all quite logical. Perhaps try reading them while sober?

If there is a role playing problem I have the solution. Just let that nation not allowed to reside in the region that the old names use to live in.

Heh. That won't solve a thing. People move regions all the time. Also, I don't know the region that most of the people I interact with reside in. The association is with the name not the region.

The only problem left is the minority of forumnites might recognise past nations like that darky guy you mentioned.

But those who do have a very strong attachment to "that darky guy".

But I still stand by my point that only a very small percentage of players use the forums so only a very small amount of people will be affected.

Once again, I addressed that.

Who cares about those players they already get so many advantages already - like friendship with mods.

What the Hell does this have to do with anything?

I am not a new player to a game but I already know of two new players who were alienated because their chosen name was reserved by a dead nation.

You must be joking.

Now both of these players have lost interest and are dead nations. How many more new players are you going to kill just encase a new player in a year wants to play the game again.

As our nation-base, and player-base continue to grow, I think your two new players are, far and away, an extreme exception.

I am not going to let this matter rest. When I become more sober tomorrow I am going to start a petition and really create a movement to re-release the old names. Everyone knows this is the logical move.

You do that.

P.S very drunk right now so I apologise if you can not read my post I will edit it in the morning when I am sober.

Again, posting while drunk is not only a rather lame excuse, but also a foolish idea.

Hack - I can swear I've seen "Singapore"...
Yeah. There was some real-world nation (or real-world place at least) whose name I was trying to use once for a puppet, and the site responded that it was in use rather than reserved. Wish I could remember what the name was, something Eastern European, I think.

I don't think "Nederland" counts as being Eastern European, but anyway, that nation existed.

Hack - I can swear I've seen "Singapore"...
Yeah. There was some real-world nation (or real-world place at least) whose name I was trying to use once for a puppet, and the site responded that it was in use rather than reserved. Wish I could remember what the name was, something Eastern European, I think.

I don't think "Nederland" counts as being Eastern European, but anyway, that nation existed.
Mine was something like "Transdniestr" or something equally obscure (you know it? It's like 1/8th of the territory of Moldova or so and resolutely refuses not to have its own National Assembly. Oh the wonders of post-Soviet politics).

I don't think "Nederland" counts as being Eastern European, but anyway, that nation existed.
Mine was something like "Transdniestr" or something equally obscure (you know it? It's like 1/8th of the territory of Moldova or so and resolutely refuses not to have its own National Assembly. Oh the wonders of post-Soviet politics).

Transsylavania?

I don't think "Nederland" counts as being Eastern European, but anyway, that nation existed.
Mine was something like "Transdniestr" or something equally obscure (you know it? It's like 1/8th of the territory of Moldova or so and resolutely refuses not to have its own National Assembly. Oh the wonders of post-Soviet politics).

Transsylavania?

Considered to be part of the hell that is Romania.

Then, I don't know it. 8)

There was some real-world nation

edit@: Never mind. I only realised my error after I had posted, and the server gremlins wouldnt let me back in to delete my post. I have a simialarly spelled nation, not the original.

There was some real-world nation

I had azerbaijan, but its dead. I must resurect it.
You're kidding! :shock:

Chechnya and Ikcheria were both claimed, as were Ingushia, Aceh by Azerbaijan wasn't? :o

I have "Daghestan" and "Circassia" which are regions of the Caucasus, but technically part of Russia (but aren't at all related to the russians and would be in revolt were they not terroized by the Russian attrocities in Chechnya)

I've also seen Sierra Leone, actually I saw it ressurectted. Africa has quite a few like that and had even more.

Seriously though, I'd rather that real nation names had been made of limits before the game opened, to keep people from simply grabbing them all up, as I'm sure must have happened inthe begining.

AS, make that petition. I'll make a counter-petition in that case. :twisted:

I don't think "Nederland" counts as being Eastern European, but anyway, that nation existed.
Mine was something like "Transdniestr" or something equally obscure (you know it? It's like 1/8th of the territory of Moldova or so and resolutely refuses not to have its own National Assembly. Oh the wonders of post-Soviet politics).

Transsylavania?
Only the one 's' if we're talking the place where Dracula's from. But no, the place I was talking about is Transdneistr. Good luck finding out anything about it - the best place I can point you to is the latest Lonely Planet on Eastern Europe. Dig really deep in the Moldova entry and they'll make a few passing remarks about it.