NationStates Jolt Archive


nation rank bug?

Byzanthine
02-01-2004, 03:55
Hello. just to report that, a single nation, Tyrone, seems to repeat several times between position 15 and positions 68 on the rank list of the largest nation.

Some sort of bug?
The Basenji
02-01-2004, 04:04
Link?
Byzanthine
02-01-2004, 04:15
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=world/start=10

and keep checking from 20 to 30....30 to 40...and so on.
02-01-2004, 04:18
Tyrone is currently ranked 15, 17,18, 21,24,29, 31,35,38, 41, 46, 49, 50, 56, 59, 65, 68, 71,74, and 78. Yeah, thats a problem
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 06:09
Tyrone is currently ranked 15, 17,18, 21,24,29, 31,35,38, 41, 46, 49, 50, 56, 59, 65, 68, 71,74, and 78. Yeah, thats a problem
The descriptio for all of those links says that it is 15th in the world, and it is the exact same nation, not one with spaces before or after.
SalusaSecondus
02-01-2004, 06:10
I'll check my code . . . later.
Myrth
02-01-2004, 06:11
I'll check my code . . . later.

Hey, 2004 posts! :D
Unfree People
02-01-2004, 06:33
Heh, cool.
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 06:46
Does Salusa even have a telegram box?

Somehow I get the feeling that he might have removed it. :P
Unfree People
02-01-2004, 06:56
Haha, if I could remove my telegram box I strongly suspect I might :P

...just kidding. There are rare occaisions when I get good telegrams. Um, I'm sure I've gotten one or two...
02-01-2004, 07:05
Doesn't matter what the link brings you to, just matters that they are listed there that many times.
SalusaSecondus
02-01-2004, 09:46
Yeah, I have a TG box, there are times when it is the best way to contact me.

Oh, and you might want to check out Tyrone (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=tyrone)'s nation . . . . he doesn't seem to quite merit his high rankings anymore . . .

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

P.S. Please note that his nation shrinks every day. Let this be an example to you of why not to try to beat the system.

P.P.S. Further people I catch trying similar things may not get off so easy.
Naleth
02-01-2004, 10:28
P.S. Please note that his nation shrinks every day. Let this be an example to you of why not to try to beat the system.
-2.6 billion .. ya, it shrinks a little. :shock:
Sdaeriji
02-01-2004, 10:47
He hacked the game to MAKE HIS NATION LARGER???? Really, now, what has the world come to when people have to cheat at a NON-COMPETITIVE game. This makes me weep for the goodness of humanity that people like this exist.
The Most Glorious Hack
02-01-2004, 11:09
He hacked the game to MAKE HIS NATION LARGER???? Really, now, what has the world come to when people have to cheat at a NON-COMPETITIVE game. This makes me weep for the goodness of humanity that people like this exist.

He didn't "hack the game". He exploited a loophole.
Sdaeriji
02-01-2004, 11:16
He hacked the game to MAKE HIS NATION LARGER???? Really, now, what has the world come to when people have to cheat at a NON-COMPETITIVE game. This makes me weep for the goodness of humanity that people like this exist.

He didn't "hack the game". He exploited a loophole.

Loophole?
The Most Glorious Hack
02-01-2004, 11:21
Yeah, loophole.

Remember how, months back, people found a way to get custom titles, even though they weren't supposed to be able to?

It's sort of like that. This wasn't HTML monkeying, like the title changing was, but the same kind of thing. He/she found a way to abuse the system and did so, and has thus been punished.

No, I'm not going to explain exactly how, as I don't want to have a bunch more people doing it.
Sdaeriji
02-01-2004, 11:24
Yeah, loophole.

Remember how, months back, people found a way to get custom titles, even though they weren't supposed to be able to?

It's sort of like that. This wasn't HTML monkeying, like the title changing was, but the same kind of thing. He/she found a way to abuse the system and did so, and has thus been punished.

No, I'm not going to explain exactly how, as I don't want to have a bunch more people doing it.

:( Please?
The Most Glorious Hack
02-01-2004, 11:28
No.
Sdaeriji
02-01-2004, 11:29
No.

Dang. Okay. I tried.
Ryanania
02-01-2004, 11:32
Pretty please with sugar on top?
Sdaeriji
02-01-2004, 11:33
Pretty please with sugar on top?

Yeah. Why wouldn't the mods want to tell us how to cheat???
Ryanania
02-01-2004, 11:39
Pretty please with sugar on top?

Yeah. Why wouldn't the mods want to tell us how to cheat???I don't know. Baffling, isn't it? :?
Sdaeriji
02-01-2004, 11:40
Pretty please with sugar on top?

Yeah. Why wouldn't the mods want to tell us how to cheat???I don't know. Baffling, isn't it? :?

I'm just genuinely curious. I'd have no reason to try and use it. It's just a silly little game, why cheat?
02-01-2004, 12:07
I know how, all you need do to is join the UN 737 times and your nation grows by a billion.
Crazy girl
02-01-2004, 14:49
nope, it's much much easier, although you do have to be up at reset time ;)


(and before sal goes messing with my population: i noticed this when defending more than one region in one update period)
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 16:09
nope, it's much much easier, although you do have to be up at reset time ;)


(and before sal goes messing with my population: i noticed this when defending more than one region in one update period)
I almost did this with one of my puppets to get the custom title about a day sooner. Now I am so glad that I didn't. :shock:
SalusaSecondus
02-01-2004, 18:48
Let me clear something up with his punishment. His population will be restored to a corrected number, and there will be no further actions taken against him. There were no specific rules against it, at the time, and I probably would have done similarly myself. The thing to remember that if you do this stuff, sometimes you will get burned.

You guys know better, though, from this thread and if any of you exploit this (that's different from accidentaly doing it, and we can tell the difference), you will be punished much more severely.

To everyone itching to explain how to do this. I ask you to wait. I am working on a patch for this, and would prefer that you do not spread the methods until after the patch is in the system.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
02-01-2004, 18:53
understand that. i think i know how it works... but i'll keep the secrets of the custom-made-population bug for myself... otherwise... NS will end in total chaos...
Sketch
02-01-2004, 19:01
Whoa........cool. Well, I know that I will always be safe from any "hacking" accusations.......the only thing I know how to do on a comp is point and click :P This stuff is waaaaaaay beyond me :?
Qaaolchoura
02-01-2004, 19:09
Whoa........cool. Well, I know that I will always be safe from any "hacking" accusations.......the only thing I know how to do on a comp is point and click :P This stuff is waaaaaaay beyond me :?
Then how does a January nation nominate the MI rankings? :P :wink:
Sketch
03-01-2004, 04:09
Then how does a January nation nominate the MI rankings? :P :wink:

Oh...that. Easy, maaad AZN Skillz! Got Rice Bitch? :lol: :lol: :lol:
03-01-2004, 05:10
Then how does a January nation nominate the MI rankings? :P :wink:

Oh...that. Easy, maaad AZN Skillz! Got Rice Bitch? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah I got rice, and you know what? I cover it in gumbo. A potato on the other hand, can't touch that.