the name exists but the nation doesn't, in creating a nation
sometimes when i have tried to create new nations, it says that the name that i wanted is already taken, but i then go and search for this nation, and it doesn't exist
why does this happen? is it a bug, and if it is can it please be fixed?
Der Angst
01-12-2003, 13:47
They`re Nations that were deleted or expired.
The names / statistics when expired are saved, so, the names aren`t available.
AFAIK it says so when you check if the name`s unique... 'The name belongs to a nation that expired' or something like that...
even so, we should still be able to create new nations, in expired/deleted nations names, as it's not as if those nation are able to be resurected
The Imperial Navy
01-12-2003, 14:10
They can be resurrected, and often, they are.
-Imperial Navy Technical help division
-Not a mod
learn something new everyday..
Emperor Matthuis
01-12-2003, 19:14
even so, we should still be able to create new nations, in expired/deleted nations names, as it's not as if those nation are able to be resurected
this wouldn't work as if a nation got deleted and was founder of a big region and he created the nation then he could take control of a region and pretend to be someone so it wouldn't work
The Malarkies
01-12-2003, 22:20
I know you need to retain undeletion in case of mistakes during deletion or banning/unbannings, but if a nation is truely gone for good, what's the point of keeping the dead informaiton?
Why not remove the nations' stats after a specified period of time after deletion, say a month? I would think this would free up server space along with allowing the names to be reused.
Then if someone makes a new nation with that name, they should start as a "fresh" naiton instead of where the old one left off. This would allow people to remake long-forgotten naitons they'd made before.
Unless the deletion records are doubling as a "banned names" record, so you can't re-use hostile or vulgar nation names that the mods have deleted in the past.
[violet]
02-12-2003, 11:17
Originally the deleted nations did serve as "banned" names, yeah. There are a couple of niggling little problems I need to iron out before I can free up old names.
Is this to say you intend to?
What will the policy as regards release be?
I know I've given some ideas as to what might be a good way to determine if a name should be freed up for re-use (things like "very long gone" "didn't do much" and "didn't get DEATed"), but FYI Pegesus, another reason that names are reserved is that some ex-Nations are VERY famous, and not always for good things, so the mods don't want anyone impersonating them and also don't want any new players getting stuck with a name that has some really bad memories attached to it for some players.
Nag Ehgoeg
02-12-2003, 22:44
even so, we should still be able to create new nations, in expired/deleted nations names, as it's not as if those nation are able to be resurected
this wouldn't work as if a nation got deleted and was founder of a big region and he created the nation then he could take control of a region and pretend to be someone so it wouldn't work
LOL. I thought this happened to me once.