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Question about Nanakaland

TROUSRS
08-11-2003, 03:04
Why has his post count been knocked down to 0? Why is his population only at 700million when It should be in the billions since he was founded in March? Why can he not edit his old posts? Can you fix any of this?
Qaaolchoura
08-11-2003, 03:16
Wasn't he deleted for inactivity a while back?

Revived nations have their PC knocked back to 0, and they do not grow during the time that they were nonexistant. I know first hand as Greater Dystopia has a little over half of the pop it should have as it was dead for two months.

It makes sense that he can not edit his posts either.
Letila
08-11-2003, 05:26
Inactivity, flaming, it's an arbitrary distinction.

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Liverpool England
08-11-2003, 05:28
Inactivity, flaming, it's an arbitrary distinction.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TEA1WL6tIGQC:w1.150.telia.com/~u15008589

BTW, Nanakaland was removed for inactivity. He was warned for flaming but he stopped, I believe.
Letila
08-11-2003, 05:31
I was really talking about my dead nation.

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Mliêstôlkakûmek(Love all as you love yourself)
Racism-the other stupid ideology
Peace, love, and girls with small waists and big butts!
Letilan moths! Yay!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TEA1WL6tIGQC:w1.150.telia.com/~u15008589
TROUSRS
08-11-2003, 15:06
I thought that nations did grow durring the time they were deleted..
I had a nation revived that was made in july and has the same population at nanakaland.
Qaaolchoura
08-11-2003, 15:22
I thought that nations did grow durring the time they were deleted..
I had a nation revived that was made in july and has the same population at nanakaland.
Nooooo, if that were the case Greater Dystopia would have over six hundered million people, Quintucket would have around five hundered, ad I would have two more pupppetswhose custom titles that I could play with. I'm really kicking myself for forgetting them for a time being now.
Goobergunchia
08-11-2003, 17:11
I'd like to see him be able to edit his old posts.
Qaaolchoura
08-11-2003, 17:27
I'd like to see him be able to edit his old posts.Ask Rapid Dr3am if there is a hack and Pang-Pau if there is a MOD that would make it possible.
Cogitation
08-11-2003, 19:29
I'd like to see him be able to edit his old posts.Ask Rapid Dr3am if there is a hack and Pang-Pau if there is a MOD that would make it possible.

What, exactly, are you suggesting? That [violet] make a change to the forum code? Or that players attempt to change the forum code?

The game and the forum are very highly integrated and we mods do not want players to go mucking about with this.

As this is a technical matter, iMove :arrow: "Technical".

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Forum Moderator
Goobergunchia
08-11-2003, 19:31
I'd like to see him be able to edit his old posts.Ask Rapid Dr3am if there is a hack and Pang-Pau if there is a MOD that would make it possible.

What, exactly, are you suggesting? That [violet] make a change to the forum code? Or that players attempt to change the forum code?

The game and the forum are very highly integrated and we mods do not want players to go mucking about with this.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Forum Moderator

That [violet] make a change to the code.
SalusaSecondus
08-11-2003, 20:23
I think that the issue is that when they are ressurected their new forum account is not the same as their old one, it just happens to have the same name.

And no, don't expect this to be fixed anytime soon.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
Arribastan
08-11-2003, 23:58
Wasn't he deleted for inactivity a while back?

Revived nations have their PC knocked back to 0, and they do not grow during the time that they were nonexistant. I know first hand as Greater Dystopia has a little over half of the pop it should have as it was dead for two months.

It makes sense that he can not edit his posts either.
My pop is pretty big. i joined in June, and have the same pop as some June 10th nations
Qaaolchoura
09-11-2003, 04:17
That [violet] make a change to the code.
Well that the players find some hacks or MODs and propose the to [violet]
Peng-Pau
10-11-2003, 02:34
Ok, when phpBB creates an account, it does two things:
It creates an entry in the phpbb_users table.
It creates a group for that user.
The group_id number and the user_id number are (usually) the same.

When a user is deleted, their user and group_id's are freed up, meaning that the next person who registers will probably get their number. This is just a normal thing in SQL to keep tables consistant.

This basically means that the ID associated with Nanakaland's old posts is different to his new one, so he can't edit them.

There is more to it than this, but that's basically what it boils down to.

And I do believe that there is a plan to implement undeletion of users in phpBB 2.2.
[violet]
10-11-2003, 02:43
Yep, that's it. When a nation gets deleted, it really just gets moved to an archive folder, so I can restore it if need be. (That's also how the game knows if a name is "reserved for a former nation".) But in the phpBB forum, if you delete a user it just throws the information away, so there's no handy way to undelete.
Peng-Pau
10-11-2003, 02:50
]Yep, that's it. When a nation gets deleted, it really just gets moved to an archive folder, so I can restore it if need be. (That's also how the game knows if a name is "reserved for a former nation".) But in the phpBB forum, if you delete a user it just throws the information away, so there's no handy way to undelete.

I gave the MOD team the undelete idea... :D

*feels proud*

If you want to install it, I think it's in one of the MOD forums on the phpBB Forums (http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/)...