NationStates Jolt Archive

I know you don't, but I was thinking and at least wanted to throw an idea into a hat that gets passed around everyonce in a while. As I have seen, there has yet to be decided a purging time for old nation names-- meaning all dead names are still dead, and may be dead forever.


Why not allow them to open up, only upon Mod review-- with a delay of like 9 months plus to be considered. With the mods we have, you are all very expericinced, and after 9 months or so of deletion, could likely deterine if the nation could be confused for someone else.

Dunno (third time I have chosen that spelling of Don't Know, sorry rough time in the Big Easy), just seems a way to raise some of the useless dead.

*Imagines a new nation using 'Klamath', followed by immediate flaming by older nations*

*Doesn`t think it`s a good idea*

You would simply have to live with the fact that older players connect you with something you never were... I, personally, wouldn´t like it.

Well, the old names will likely be released some time. And I would only suggest the release of names that are very dead, 9 months plus that were not infafmius, thus likely to be recognized.

How about for starters sticking to those with 0 forum posts.

Then again, there's also the in-game spammers... Those names aren't exactly in 'good standing', so rule out all those that were DEATed as well.

Also rule out those nations that still hold a foundership in their dead state.

Then rule out the 'famous' ones...

Ya know, this is sounding like a lot of work to figure out. One could also do it in a different manner, on a per-request basis, but I'm not so sure that would be less work.

Ballotonia

Yeah, I know. Why I gave it this silly title, I know it isnt the best idea. I think eventually we are going to run a bit short of names, tho I know we won't run out.... but then we have to think and stuff tyo come up with ones not already used.

*Clenches onto nation with both fists*

You'll never get my name! Not even over my dead nation! Bwahahahahaha *insane laughter continues* *cough hack flem* :P

Someone, somewhere, is going to think America Inc is a really cool name. They might even have time to regret it. :P

If somebody takes Vulcanus out of my hands, I shall feed his/her's feet to him/herself.

Watch out peelo's.

Here's an idea...

First off, I believe that the mods store a comment file with the other information on nations (such as "August 17th 2003: Forum banned for 1 week - spamming," and "October 4th 2003: Deleted for massive spamming/flaming after repeated warnings"). If a nation has never done anything bad, then it should have no comments, right? (unless you take time to note when we are good, too :))

So...here's a conditional statement for freeing up ex-Nation names.

Postcount is less then 10, comment file is empty, and the nation has been dead for 2 months. Thataway odds are nobody knows who they are/were and they are long gone (probably 3+ months since they would have died of inactivity). Also, the low postcount makes sure they aren't a "famous forumer" by any means and the lack of comments means they aren't a "Famous non-forumer" ... probably (unless they were a good famous non-forumer).

I'd agree with that. It would certainly be good to get back names of nations that just came to the game after a friend invited them and left out of boredom in the following week(s).
It goes without saying that famous (or infamous) nations should forever be left to RIP.

Here's an idea...

First off, I believe that the mods store a comment file with the other information on nations (such as "August 17th 2003: Forum banned for 1 week - spamming," and "October 4th 2003: Deleted for massive spamming/flaming after repeated warnings"). If a nation has never done anything bad, then it should have no comments, right? (unless you take time to note when we are good, too :))

So...here's a conditional statement for freeing up ex-Nation names.

Postcount is less then 10, comment file is empty, and the nation has been dead for 2 months. Thataway odds are nobody knows who they are/were and they are long gone (probably 3+ months since they would have died of inactivity). Also, the low postcount makes sure they aren't a "famous forumer" by any means and the lack of comments means they aren't a "Famous non-forumer" ... probably (unless they were a good famous non-forumer).

I think this is a great idea, though I would suggest like at least 6 months, so that the nation is long, long forgotten.

Here's an idea...

First off, I believe that the mods store a comment file with the other information on nations (such as "August 17th 2003: Forum banned for 1 week - spamming," and "October 4th 2003: Deleted for massive spamming/flaming after repeated warnings"). If a nation has never done anything bad, then it should have no comments, right? (unless you take time to note when we are good, too :))

So...here's a conditional statement for freeing up ex-Nation names.

Postcount is less then 10, comment file is empty, and the nation has been dead for 2 months. Thataway odds are nobody knows who they are/were and they are long gone (probably 3+ months since they would have died of inactivity). Also, the low postcount makes sure they aren't a "famous forumer" by any means and the lack of comments means they aren't a "Famous non-forumer" ... probably (unless they were a good famous non-forumer).

I think this is a great idea, though I would suggest like at least 6 months, so that the nation is long, long forgotten.

That's a rather forum-centric view to take. About 4 hours ago I resurected a nation of 1.3 Billion that had been inactive for months, and had never posted on the forums.

Basing database clearings on forum count is a bad idea, and I wouldn't support it at all. Several people never visited the forums, that doesn't mean they aren't well known my their region-mates, or what-have-you.

I know alot of people that never post here but are deeply involved in originazations offsite forums

Werds.

Wyrds.

That's a rather forum-centric view to take. About 4 hours ago I resurected a nation of 1.3 Billion that had been inactive for months, and had never posted on the forums.

Basing database clearings on forum count is a bad idea, and I wouldn't support it at all. Several people never visited the forums, that doesn't mean they aren't well known my their region-mates, or what-have-you.

True, good point. I am not sure what to base it on then. It is one thing to base it on those you don't believe will be rmembered, but without something numerical or clear to base it on, just a guessing game.

I know it has been long months since it has even been said this will be done, so it is likely that names won't ever be released, but eventually it will be a necitity of a sort. Trying to catagorize what to realse might be tough, I guess.

If the nation in question had a "home" region, one could ask the other inhabitants to judge wether this was an active nation or not. Or is this too big and time-consuming?

If the nation in question had a "home" region, one could ask the other inhabitants to judge wether this was an active nation or not. Or is this too big and time-consuming?
Extremely.

That's a rather forum-centric view to take. About 4 hours ago I resurected a nation of 1.3 Billion that had been inactive for months, and had never posted on the forums.

Basing database clearings on forum count is a bad idea, and I wouldn't support it at all. Several people never visited the forums, that doesn't mean they aren't well known my their region-mates, or what-have-you.

This is very true. I've got sseveral nations which are active in many places, and this is about my first post on the forums (I may have a couple on it from my first trip here cuz I got this one ressurected a while back). It's a good idea, but it would be hard to put into practice because not everyone's active on the forums. It would be nice to free up a few names, though. When I made my last nation, I had to think hard to come up with something that wasn't already taken.

If the nation in question had a "home" region, one could ask the other inhabitants to judge wether this was an active nation or not. Or is this too big and time-consuming?
Extremely.

Wow, very true. Not to mention Home Regions can change, as some die and others grow.


I still think there must be a smart way yo determine what should and shouldn't be revived, on top of the amount of time it was dead...

If the nation in question had a "home" region, one could ask the other inhabitants to judge wether this was an active nation or not. Or is this too big and time-consuming?
Extremely.

Wow, very true. Not to mention Home Regions can change, as some die and others grow.


I still think there must be a smart way yo determine what should and shouldn't be revived, on top of the amount of time it was dead...

If the nation in question had a "home" region, one could ask the other inhabitants to judge wether this was an active nation or not. Or is this too big and time-consuming?
Extremely.

Wow, very true. Not to mention Home Regions can change, as some die and others grow.


I still think there must be a smart way yo determine what should and shouldn't be revived, on top of the amount of time it was dead...