NationStates Jolt Archive


Lost Threads

Dread Lady Nathicana
20-10-2003, 02:10
Yeah, I realize it's probably already been addressed and I just missed it, but for the love of God, would it have been too much to ask that we got notification before the vast amount of old posts were eliminated from the system? I've been going back slowly, doing the copy/paste thing, and I often reference things for current play. And now, all that hard work, all the back history, is simply gone. I can't even begin to tell you how disappointed I am. And the scary part is, the cutoff wasn't all that long ago in game time. I have two coinciding storylines that one remains, and the one that spawned it has been deleted - needed something from the previous today, and that's when I looked. Silly me, noticing the search function acting all screwy a day or two ago and not thinking all that much of it at the time. Looks like I waited too long, and paid the price for thinking I still had time.

Call it silly, but for those of us who actually rp here, this was a hard blow, and took me completely by surprise. Serve me right I suppose, for not having saved posts as I went I suppose, but when I first started I had no idea how much of a motivation for writing this place would become. A majority of the ambience and history of this place is now simply gone without even so much as a 'by the way' that I've seen. And no, I don't claim to be a huge contributor to all of that, I'm just stating.

I realize that space is limited. I realize that by its very nature this place gets overloaded. But ... man, that was cold.
Sirocco
20-10-2003, 02:18
The threads are still there, it's just that the search doesn't go back as far anymore. Look around your egosearch and you should find them..
SalusaSecondus
20-10-2003, 02:20
I believe that the purge is 60 days of no posting (but don't quote me on that).

I'll pass this message up the ranks. I know that I have some stuff that I'd better have copies of somewheres . . .

SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
Ackbar
20-10-2003, 04:40
Forget Jen Gov, needs to be a Nationstates.net to catalogue it all.
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-10-2003, 15:06
Well, I'll say this - if they still are around somewhere (seems odd they'd be deleted and post count still remain the same), I'd seriously pay cash to get 'em back, or a copy. No joke. It just takes forever to copy/paste the big threads - simply did not have time what with rl obligations, and continued storylines to get it all in.

It's my understanding this came as a bit of a shock to a lot of folks. I just think it was poorly done, especially looking at the loads and loads and loads of utter nonsense that got left. Hundreds of 1-post threads, things by mod-deleted nations, spam, etc. All this we still have, and good content, from a LOT of folk, is gone.

And yes actually, I do feel rather bitter about it. Go fig.
Ballotonia
20-10-2003, 15:24
Well, I'll say this - if they still are around somewhere (seems odd they'd be deleted and post count still remain the same), I'd seriously pay cash to get 'em back, or a copy.

If your postcount wasn't reduced, the threads should still be there.

As Sirocco pointed out: the search engine database gets purged on a frequent basis. This means that one can only search on recent material, not the older stuff. But the older stuff is still there! You can use an egosearch ("View My Posts" on the Index page) to find the threads you've been active in, and this search will show ALL the threads still stored, not just the recent ones.

On top of that, occasionally a purge is made and actual old threads are removed from the DB. These messages are gone, and you will notice your post count drop when this happens.

It wasn't clear to me which problem you were having, so I decided to elaborate a tiny bit. I hope that's ok.

Ballotonia
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-10-2003, 16:44
It isn't a matter of search, which is why I'm confused. Look at the forum page count. Go back to the last ones - they are gone. Simply not there. No links work to the threads, nothing. Now if they are being hidden away somewhere still and are still accessible somehow, I'd dearly like to know. Until such time as that's made clear, they're lost and gone for all intents and purposes. Yes, have tried egosearch - out of 28 pages, only 8 have posts in them.

I have it on good authority that not even the mods knew this one was coming. Again, pretty harsh.
Santa Barbara
20-10-2003, 17:00
Agreed... disappointed. My historic war against GDODAD is lost!

Luckily I didnt do heavy RPing on the boards til recently... guess I'll just have to bump everything regularly from now on eh?

It kinda sucks that theres the lack-of-frequent-post rule... it just so happens people tend to NOT post on my threads. So because I'm not popular my shit gets deleted. :evil:
Konania
21-10-2003, 04:17
Threads are still there, as he said; just takes some serious searching. :? I don't like it either, so I keep links to some of the more important threads. I thought there was a way to export threads into *.doc's or *.txt's, but I dunno.

--Felix
Ackbar
22-10-2003, 04:41
Agreed... disappointed. My historic war against GDODAD is lost!


I forgot about them. Do they even still exist?
Goobergunchia
22-10-2003, 04:51
Threads are still there, as he said; just takes some serious searching. :? I don't like it either, so I keep links to some of the more important threads. I thought there was a way to export threads into *.doc's or *.txt's, but I dunno.

--Felix

Unfortunately, the threads seem to have been purged from the database. Even a direct URL link doesn't work.