NationStates Jolt Archive


What is this VB?

TROUSRS
18-10-2003, 22:20
I know its not nationstates related, but the "Suberb NationStates Browser" (that I use) was made on "VB". I dont know what it stands for or where to buy/download it. Could someone inform me? Maybe this belongs in general.. nah all the techy people are here.
Goobergunchia
18-10-2003, 22:24
Visual Basic...it's a programming language.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/
TROUSRS
18-10-2003, 22:28
It's not something a simple, lazy, non-programming type person could do is it?
Goobergunchia
18-10-2003, 22:33
It's not something a simple, lazy, non-programming type person could do is it?

Probably not.
TROUSRS
18-10-2003, 22:34
It's not something a simple, lazy, non-programming type person could do is it?

Probably not.

Ah nuts.

Thank goobergunchia.
NuMetal
18-10-2003, 22:35
You can pick up some of it pretty easily,a browse isn't so complicated,it still requires some basic programming though,If you are intrested get a book that comes with the learning edition thing(whatever its called)
SalusaSecondus
19-10-2003, 00:57
Personally I would recommend Delphi for use. I think that it is better and it is what I use for most of my coding work.

SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
Omz222
19-10-2003, 00:59
I also heard that C++ is very flexible if you get the hang of it...

But for basic programs, I've heard that BASIC is good.
Qaaolchoura
19-10-2003, 01:06
I also heard that C++ is very flexible if you get the hang of it...

But for basic programs, I've heard that BASIC is good.
Basic is easy, but very limited capacity.

C++ I have heard is very hard to learn

If you find Visual Basic tell me.

I've head that it is good.

Qaaolchoura,
He who is constantly downloading useless freeware
NuMetal
19-10-2003, 01:08
I also heard that C++ is very flexible if you get the hang of it...

But for basic programs, I've heard that BASIC is good.
Basic is easy, but very limited capacity.

C++ I have heard is very hard to learn

If you find Visual Basic tell me.

I've head that it is good.

Qaaolchoura,
He who is constantly downloading useless freeware

Visual Basic is expensive....(my uncle may have kinda lent me the Installation cds :twisted: )

C++ is hard in many ways,and I just hate semicolons at this point from both Java and C++
Omz222
19-10-2003, 01:12
I have a copy of Visual Basic .NET (borrowed from my dad :twisted: ), and it doesn't really made sense for me.

At least, still easier.
Qaaolchoura
19-10-2003, 01:16
Visual Basic is expensive....(my uncle may have kinda lent me the Installation cds :twisted: )

C++ is hard in many ways,and I just hate semicolons at this point from both Java and C++
Then it must be another program I was thinking of. Does "Logo" sound right?
19-10-2003, 01:16
Free (though not necissarily easy), powerful.... JAVA.

http://java.sun.com/

-The Greater Representative
X>=0
Peng-Pau
19-10-2003, 02:40
Visual Basic is easy to learn, but limited in various ways, and it becomes harder to use well when things become more complicated.

Vanilla C++ (the real thing, I.E., the Linux/Unix version which doesn't have Microsoft specific things in it) is more complicated and confusing to start with, but is much more flexible and faster. Said Microsoft version is even worse. You can use VC++ to compile things, but I'd still personally stick to GCC...

Java is similar to C++, but slightly easier to learn, slightly slower, and it has annoying quirks in places.

BASIC as such is obsolete, as is Pascal.

Delphi is, I hear, basically Visual Pascal. Never used it, so I have no idea.

Personally, if you want to learn, I suggest you download Python (http://www.python.org), which is a very easy to learn interpreted (runs without exe's) language.

If you want to do websites, I suggest you learn php (http://www.php.net). The GDP Calc is written in this.

Actually, on that point, if anyone here knows anything about php and XML, drop me a line, I need a hand...
TROUSRS
19-10-2003, 12:46
Thanks everyone. I was thinking more along the lines of creating something similar to the NationStates Browser (where all the links are convinently at the bottom of the browser) for my friends and I who own many many websites. Thought it would be neat. Thanks again.

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Brandon
Rapid Dr3am
19-10-2003, 14:32
Personally I would recommend Delphi for use. I think that it is better and it is what I use for most of my coding work.

SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

Delphi? :roll:

Delphi, is stupid it's just like pascal. :shock:

I use c++, perl, php, vBasic, pascal, smalltalk.
Peng-Pau
19-10-2003, 15:01
Personally I would recommend Delphi for use. I think that it is better and it is what I use for most of my coding work.

SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

Delphi? :roll:

Delphi, is stupid it's just like pascal. :shock:

I use c++, perl, php, vBasic, pascal, smalltalk.

Yes, but Delphi has a nice IDE that I've never actually used because I can't afford it... :(
Phoebos
19-10-2003, 16:41
Never used Delphi... I'm happy with most of the others, but for writing something such as the Superb NS browser or my own NS Portal, VB is really the easiest way to go. It greatly simplifies the building of the GUI, and the presence of a browser control is so much easier than having to code it all by yourself.

For any serious coding, though, you want to be looking at a C variant. Anybody played with sharp yet? What's it like?
SalusaSecondus
20-10-2003, 00:34
A lot of this really depends on what you want the final product to be used for.

For fast, low level, no fancy interface, code (and vaguely portable): I recommend: C/C++

For truly portable code (both GUI and Console): Java

For nice GUI (but Win32): Delphi

There are others out there, but none that I know well enough to truly sit down and code great stuff in.

There is also something called Kylix out, which is essentially Delphi for Linux/Unix. However it is still very young so there aren't many components for it (most delphi components don't port), however you can compile apps for both Win32 and Linux in it. And even nicer it is distributed for free as long as all apps that you build/distribute with it are opensource.

SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

P.S. I know: C, C++, Java, VB, Delphi, HTML, Javascript, CSS, and I'm learning Perl.
Peng-Pau
20-10-2003, 00:41
Ewwww.... Perl.....

php forever!