NationStates Jolt Archive

Custom nation titles:

Everone wants them and are eager to get them. If all players over 500 get to do that, it will make moderators a little less special. A lot of people are going to be jackasses and post something so in appropriate that it is delete worthy, causing moderators to get away from more important duties such as moderating the forums (hence the name) and working on issues.

I mean, it would be cool to pick a custom nation title, but at what costs? Are we going to force the moderators into slavery over inappropriate things being posted or are we going to play the game like it is and enjoy that? I'm happy being the USST, I really have know idea what I would be anyway.

May I assume that on the issue of inappropriateness, that word filters would be put in place?

I want to see other peoples opinions and thoughts on the idea and some interesting and maybe useful (there's a concept!) debating that will give ideas to [violet] or another moderator that will then pass it on to [violet]. Lets hear it.
garren teed that every one will want a custom title

Part of the reason it is only going to be for 500+ nations is so that the griefer nations that morons create for the soul purpose of irritating other players won't be able to use them. People who've had their nation for quite some time won't be so quick to make a stupid move and get themself deleted.

Ah, I didn't think of it that way Myrth. Thanks.

Bump for more comments.

Oh, and please don't post: "I want to be the [custom title] of [my nations name]"

There are other threads with pages and pages of that already.

Yeah,a word filter may be a good idea,just in case,but most people who have played for a few months don't want to get deleted

I dont think custom titles are that powerful. I see them as another means by which I can express my nation's individuality, as will most people. Moderators arent respected/revered because of their custom titles, this status comes from the work that they do, for moderators custom titles are just an amusing side feature.

I dont think custom titles are that powerful. I see them as another means by which I can express my nation's individuality, as will most people. Moderators arent respected/revered because of their custom titles, this status comes from the work that they do, for moderators custom titles are just an amusing side feature.That might actually turn out to be a good thing because a lot of people try to be moderators so they can get custom titles, not for the sake of helping people.

I think it should be 1 billion people, 500 million is to easy to get.

I think it should be 1 billion people, 500 million is to easy to get.

500 million take around three months!

Maybe 750 but a billion is way too long

I think it should be 1 billion people, 500 million is to easy to get.

500 million take around three months!

Maybe 750 but a billion is way too long

I agree. 500=To low 1bill=to high.

(Thats 500 mill :wink: )

I think 750 would be a good number

*looks at own population ticking nicely towards 800*

*rumble* I think it should be 2 billion :wink: *goes back to sleep*

I think 750 would be a good number

*looks at own population ticking nicely towards 800*

As do I.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the fact that I currently have 748 million. None at all. I promise. :twisted:

I think it should be 1 billion people, 500 million is to easy to get.

500 million take around three months!

Maybe 750 but a billion is way too long
I think that Red Communist is right.

I want to have something to eagerly await.

Also it will make it more special, and If I have to wait until around December, so be it.

(But only if the rule applies to everybody, I will not wait to change my title if it is availible)

Just like to put in that the Nation Title has no more or less potential for abuse then the curent customizable fields (those being name, currency, and animal). Just because we give the players something new to customize doesn't mean they will abuse it more then the things they already have.

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And keep it at 500M. I only just got there with this nation and my puppet :evil:.

Just like to put in that the Nation Title has no more or less potential for abuse then the curent customizable fields (those being name, currency, and animal). Just because we give the players something new to customize doesn't mean they will abuse it more then the things they already have.

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And keep it at 500M. I only just got there with this nation and my puppet :evil:.
So did I, or about a week ago.

As I said, I would not mind waiting for it if it made it more special.

Wow, I've got nothing to help out with, no good RPs, and I dont want to leave the computer because I'm going to end up missing a lot. (Knowing my luck)..THE UN FORUM!

the minimum should be 1 billion

Guys, around half the nations in NS are 500m+. I would certainly not want to see it given to any less than 750m+ nations, otherwise it will get ridiculous. Plus, I kind of like the effect that passing through a region has. It gives a lot of people pause. :twisted:

I think a good minimum would be 750. 500 seems a bit too small, and 1 billion too big. Seeing as I just reached a billion a week ago, and it seems like forever.

Then again, it would be good having a big number. After finally getting to 1 billion I feel kind of old here... Kind of... and it's satisfying too. It would seem like a proper population to do it...

Hmm....

It would be cool to have the custom titles, but I don't think we should have them, nor do I really care to much about them.


D'oh!
I just sent in 3 "Getting Help" page applications on inappropriate UN proposals (about 20 proposals in all)

This thread idea keeps coming up, and the only reason why I avoid it everytime is because the last time I read it I believe [violet] said she would be updating this as an option in the future, though it was very low ont he totem poll of things for her to do.

Has this changed?

He said that it came after the issue interface.

So it should come soon, good. I guess it doesn't hurt to have so many people cheering the idea, though it has happened a lot of late it seems.

I want my customized prefix and suffix! NOW DAMMIT!

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Alliance of Democracy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55467)
U.N. Delegate

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customized prefix and suffix

Suffix?

customized prefix and suffix

Suffix?

So my nation can be Jr., or III, or Ph.D? Awesome!

Are you sure about this Eridanus?

I do not recall [violet] mentioning suffixes at all.

Guys, around half the nations in NS are 500m+. I would certainly not want to see it given to any less than 750m+ nations, otherwise it will get ridiculous. Plus, I kind of like the effect that passing through a region has. It gives a lot of people pause. :twisted:

TG has a point. It should be limited to a greater degree. 750 million or 1 billion would be best.

There's also the risk of players spamming by giving themselves Neut-length titles.

TG has a point. It should be limited to a greater degree. 750 million or 1 billion would be best.

There's also the risk of players spamming by giving themselves Neut-length titles.
Exactly. I still say 1 billion or even 1.5 billion would be better.

I want my customized prefix and suffix! NOW DAMMIT!

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Alliance of Democracy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55467)
U.N. Delegate

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That ozzy?

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Ozzy?
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You should have a population of 1.5 billion or 2 billion to be able to pick a custom title for your nation. That would make it exclusive and would ensure no idiots get the right to make titles like "Hitlers Nazi Regime" or whatever.

i think 1.5 or 2 billion is a bit extreme. The limit should be a maximum of 1 billion, by then you can be pretty sure that no one will abuse their titles.

Anyway, a limit of 2 billion would just be a reward given to nations for having the pop bug :D

Yeah thats true. I been around since the first thousand nations and i only got a pop of 1.75billion

I still say a billion would be best, but yeah, I uess at 1.5 billion the pop bug would really make a difference in the time it takes to gey one's title.

Maybe the nation has to be around for like say, eight months.

That might work better.

I still say a billion would be best, but yeah, I uess at 1.5 billion the pop bug would really make a difference in the time it takes to gey one's title.

Maybe the nation has to be around for like say, eight months.

That might work better.

That does sound like a good idea, actually, though I'd cut it to six months rather than eight.

Without the pop bug, approximate conversions would be:
500 million = 3 months
750 million = 4 1/2 months
1 billion = 6 months
1.5 billion = 9 months

...at least as far as I can tell.

Also, if we still leave it by population, I think I'm changing my vote from 750M to 1 billion. Besides, it's not that far away, for me at least...

Guys, around half the nations in NS are 500m+. I would certainly not want to see it given to any less than 750m+ nations, otherwise it will get ridiculous. Plus, I kind of like the effect that passing through a region has. It gives a lot of people pause. :twisted:

Somewhat inaccurate. The median value for nation populations, according to Salusa's census, is only about 257 million. Half the people in NS have populations below this

I still say a billion would be best, but yeah, I uess at 1.5 billion the pop bug would really make a difference in the time it takes to gey one's title.

Maybe the nation has to be around for like say, eight months.

That might work better.

That does sound like a good idea, actually, though I'd cut it to six months rather than eight.

Without the pop bug, approximate conversions would be:
500 million = 3 months
750 million = 4 1/2 months
1 billion = 6 months
1.5 billion = 9 months

...at least as far as I can tell.

Also, if we still leave it by population, I think I'm changing my vote from 750M to 1 billion. Besides, it's not that far away, for me at least...
But with, the pop bug . . .

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Ozzy?
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Osbourne.....

Anyways I say 750 million is good

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Ozzy?
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Osbourne.....

Anyways I say 750 million is good
Oh, the guy I read about in the newspaper in the TV section.

He was an ex-felon turned neocon on "Soprano" right?

But with, the pop bug . . .

Yes, that is problematic. That's why I'm in favor of the nation age deal that you proposed. ;) I'm just saying, if that doesn't go over...

But with, the pop bug . . .

Yes, that is problematic. That's why I'm in favor of the nation age deal that you proposed. ;) I'm just saying, if that doesn't go over...
It probably won't at first.

If we keep asking though . . .

I'd rather the number be 600 Million than 500 Million, 750 is a little too big for my tastes (and as I am nearing 600 Million I think it would be more fair for me).

Well in my opinion, it is practically a bad idea to allow every nation above 500 million to have custom titles. Think about how many people can or will abuse that. (The anti gay land of I am stupid, par example) I believe 1.5 or 2 billion isn't such a crazy idea, I believe such nations deserve it as they played the game for months also it would take the mods less time to edit offensive titles as there will be less (,probably).

Well in my opinion, it is practically a bad idea to allow every nation above 500 million to have custom titles. Think about how many people can or will abuse that. (The anti gay land of I am stupid, par example) I believe 1.5 or 2 billion isn't such a crazy idea, I believe such nations deserve it as they played the game for months also it would take the mods less time to edit offensive titles as there will be less (,probably).


You wouldnt say that if you only had 500 million now

I am not sure, I have nations which do not have a population above 500 million. But of course, it wouldn't be that nice for nations who only have 160 million people at the moment. But this would only keep them playing this game as they know that when they get older they will probably be able to do more things with their country and yes, most will continue playing the game then. I mean that would be great!

I am not sure, I have nations which do not have a population above 500 million. But of course, it wouldn't be that nice for nations who only have 160 million people at the moment. But this would only keep them playing this game as they know that when they get older they will probably be able to do more things with their country and yes, most will continue playing the game then. I mean that would be great!
I still say that it would be better to do it by six or eight (preffereably eight) months in the game, or failing that 1 billion or 1.5 billion.

But as I mentioned, I still think that it would be best to do it by time.

Qaaolchoura, what you mentioned is probably even better. But, isn't it a bit more difficult to find out when a nation was created?

Just link it to the forum I'd think.

Of course if your nation has been resurrected (I have two puppets that were created one mid-July one early August, and both just resurrected a couple days ago) then you would have to go through an appeals process.

Can't we do both, like after 6 months and a pop. > 750/500/1 bill/whatever.

Can't we do both, like after 6 months and a pop. > 750/500/1 bill/whatever.

Well it would cause some problems, like Qaaolchoura mentioned. When a nation "died" it is difficult to find out whether how long ago the nation really was created.

Can't we do both, like after 6 months and a pop. > 750/500/1 bill/whatever.

Well it would cause some problems, like Qaaolchoura mentioned. When a nation "died" it is difficult to find out whether how long ago the nation really was created.

yes, but when a nation is restored it gets the pop. it had on the moment it 'died' and you can roughly estimate how long it takes to get that pop. number.

yes, but when a nation is restored it gets the pop. it had on the moment it 'died' and you can roughly estimate how long it takes to get that pop. number.
but you do not know how long it has been dead.

Both of my puppets had been dead since very early September, and the regional happenings was lost.

I know that Quintucket is the same age as Acrophilia, and Greater Dystopia is the same age as Dystopian Empire, Animal Plantation, The Brave New Utopia, and Grand Inquisitor, but I have no proof of it and the mods can not just take my word on it.

I think that custom titles are and should be for Mods only, it is, as far as i can see, one of the few perks of the job and i feel they deserve it.
And why should we complain? We get to custom our nation names!

Thankyou for you time.

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The minimum nation size should be one billion, because most of these ancient nations have achieved some (or lots) of respect, and they are the most dedicated players.
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yes, but when a nation is restored it gets the pop. it had on the moment it 'died' and you can roughly estimate how long it takes to get that pop. number.
but you do not know how long it has been dead.

i didn't ment that time, i ment the time needed to get the population it had when it died.

True. The time the nation was dead doesn't actually matter: because the nation wasn't active at the time it was dead it isn't relevant to the total days she has been on NS.

Personally, I think that once one's nation has existed for a full year one should be permitted a custom title.

Second you should get the option only on the day exactly one year after your founding.

If you choose not to accept, you have to wait another year to get it.

This will keep the number of idiotic nation titles way, way down. Plus, you'd have to pay close attention to the game and really want your custom title to get it.

True. The time the nation was dead doesn't actually matter: because the nation wasn't active at the time it was dead it isn't relevant to the total days she has been on NS.
But it is relevant for puppets that one has been trying to get ressurected.

I had missed one by one day and one by four when I had been overly tied the first week of school (I usually log onto puppets every third week(but not always today I rescued about a dozen puppets on the brink of auto DEAT {27 days inactive}) and I had asssumed that I had those two on vacation mode).

I think thats a little much. And what happens if you just are not able to get to the computer on that one day? Although doing it by time is a good idea, keeps pop bug from cheepning it.

I think thats a little much. And what happens if you just are not able to get to the computer on that one day? Although doing it by time is a good idea, keeps pop bug from cheepning it.
He just toook my idea and narrowed it unbearably.

How am I supposed to remember when all of my puppets are founded.

And think of the coding in narrowing it like that.

One issue that would have to be looked into if done by time is reformed nations. The DB seems to record their founding date as the date they were reformed. That could cause trouble.

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Ozzy?
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Osbourne.....

Anyways I say 750 million is good

Precisely. Is it Ozzy?

I still think .75 Billion should be suffiencent. That is still a large number. How many you think we have with over .75 Bill? Sorry to use that over 750 Mill, just since it is half my current pop, decided to go with decimals I guess. So I am with Nu Metal on this one.

We already have numerous of nations with a population above 1 Billion, and the number of nations with a population of around 1.5 is also growing... Do you know have many people have a population above 750 well it are a lot! We better give everyone the ability to make custom titles straight from the beginning

It doesnt matter how many nations will have the oppertunity to create a custom title. The population limit is a measure to ensure that all nations who receive the ability wont abuse it, it is not a measure to ensure that only a select few of the ns players can have custom titles.

Talking on the 750 mill+ idea. I have only just got over 750 mill and it took a hell of a long time. I doubt anyone that has played the game as long as myself would want to get their nation deleted so, 750 is a much better idea than 500.

It doesnt matter how many nations will have the oppertunity to create a custom title. The population limit is a measure to ensure that all nations who receive the ability wont abuse it, it is not a measure to ensure that only a select few of the ns players can have custom titles.

People with a very high pop. are morel likely not to abuse this wonderful board, it are mostly younger nations who violate rules and don't really know how everything works. Older nations are just more experienced with the game and less likely to do something totally wrong.

thats what I said
also an older nation would be less eager to risk all the effort they have already put into the game. I think 750 mil sounds like a good barrier.

So, when are they coming through?

Well Violet told me they would be their this monday :lol:

Well I do not really care how long it takes, I think the mods also are short of time thanks to the billions of issues we submitted!

Talking on the 750 mill+ idea. I have only just got over 750 mill and it took a hell of a long time. I doubt anyone that has played the game as long as myself would want to get their nation deleted so, 750 is a much better idea than 500.

Well, it is okay if a lot of people are able to personalize their nation name. Raw sample isn't the issue, it should be %.

If there is anyone with the facts, would love to know how many nations are there with pop s above 750 mil and how many are there just above 1 bill.

Of that, what percentage these make up from the total, that would be of interest.