Issue - immigration
Demo-Bobylon
05-10-2003, 17:07
I've been discussing this with other nations, and we're not quite sure what the issue on refugees does. What are the effects? We can't see a downside to letting people into our countries?
The True Domination
05-10-2003, 17:17
Ooops. Wrong forum. Probably belongs in technical.
Qaaolchoura
05-10-2003, 18:08
Yeah it does.
As for the issue itself I know that I who always allow an influx of refugees have a bigger pop than Canada-Germany who was founded on the same day, and I seem to recal nly allows refugees who will work for substandard wages.
Edit: Thread has been moved so I removed my request.
Demo-Bobylon
05-10-2003, 20:31
That can happen due to population fluctuation.
Damn! I need a mod.
Cogitation
05-10-2003, 20:34
That can happen due to population fluctuation.
Damn! I need a mod.
Why? Someone else already moved this topic to "Tehcnical".
--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Qaaolchoura
05-10-2003, 20:37
I assume he wants Salusa or [violet] to reveal the secret.
Which reminds me that I must remove my request to have it moved.
Demo-Bobylon
05-10-2003, 20:39
Does no-one know what it does? Please end our speculation, we've been badmouthing Max Barry - some of us saying that Max is racist. That's surely not the image you want for this?!
Obviously 'downside' is relative. What if you want your nation to have a terrible economy? Then it would be considered a plus if you ruined businesses and such.
Allowing people into your country will increase compassion and perhaps (I'm not sure) increase taxes?
Demo-Bobylon
05-10-2003, 20:56
But UK immigrants contribute £2.5 billion to the economy. So it would go up, or at least stay the same. Taxes depend to some extent on business, so they wouldn't go up, surely?
I was thinking along the lines of accommodation. They've got to live somewhere and it'll be the government who will have to supply the land.
Philopolis
06-10-2003, 10:34
I was thinking along the lines of accommodation. They've got to live somewhere and it'll be the government who will have to supply the land.
you mean ghettos :twisted:
There'd obviously be an impact on the "compassionate citizens" rating of your nation when the UN next ranks nations for how compassionate they are.
Tactical Grace
06-10-2003, 16:53
After repeatedly allowing in refugees to perform menial labour, my UN nation reached 6000th in the world for Agriculture. Or maybe it was 600th. Anyway - :grin:
whatever, who cares. anything can be in general. it increass your population and apathy. makes peoeple like you more, ut i thinkit harms your economy a little...
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Demo-Bobylon
06-10-2003, 19:26
I was thinking along the lines of accommodation. They've got to live somewhere and it'll be the government who will have to supply the land.
Same with any citizen, Sirocco.
Why does apathy increase?
And why does it harm your economy? Stupid, racist Max...
I can't say that I've had problems with my economy for letting in immigrants. It's still frightening, even though I let them all in without strings attached.
Maybe you're having trouble with a combination of issues?
I've been having economy issues for the last couple of quarters I guess. SO, on this issue, I have been doing what I figured would raise the economy there-- to only let the ones in who are a benefit to my society, or however it exactly says it.
So far, not helpoing my economy. Gotten a couple times at least, though still ridining it out.
Demo-Bobylon
07-10-2003, 19:06
Ah! [violet], where are you?! What does this do?
Demo-Bobylon
10-10-2003, 17:29
Oh well, back to speculation at the CACE forum.
Demo-Bobylon
10-10-2003, 17:56
Salsa, Salsa Secondus! Please answer my question. Please.
Tactical Grace
10-10-2003, 20:13
I have been putting them to work for a pittance, and my economy has improved. My UN nation shot several tens of thousands of places upwards in the UN Agriculture rankings after I got it half a dozen times in a short space of time and answered it the same way.
Having the coast guard sink their boats does little for your Compassionate Citizens ranking. And I believe that letting them flood into the country damages your economy, as your welfare services would be overwhelmed, and would probably need additional funding, courtesy of higher taxation.
So I recommend choosing the option in which you are selective about which ones you let in. I have found it to ba a reasonable middle ground, and in the true political style, it represents a compromise.
Demo-Bobylon
11-10-2003, 16:07
Immigrants in the UK contribute £2.5 billion to the economy.
Processing the claims and welfare cost £2 billion.
That is therefore a £.5 billion profit.
If the laws are changed so that qualifications from other countries are actually recognised, the amount contributed could go up to 3 or even 4 billion.
Therefore the economy would improve.