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In order to prevent anyone discovering your nation's password,remeber to make it fairly long and unique,and also throw in some numbers:

1234567890

and the fun part,Special Charachters!!

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wohoo!

Better ideas from Salusa(just thought I'd put them here where more people can see them,at least I'm sometimes too lazy to read a whole thread and my first post was pretty much useless):



Ok, my formal suggestion regarding passwords, first, try not to use special Characters (basically anything you can't easily type on a American keyboard). However, for a truly secure password:




The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long

The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)

The password should be miXEd CasE.

The password should not be/contain a word in any language.

The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)

The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems



DS, you make a really good point. My NS passwords are not highly secure, but secure enough for this. There are tricks to building easily rememberable passwords that follow all of the words.

1) Take a foreign word.
2) Transcribe it (if necessary), and then mispell it.
3) Replace letters with similar symbols/numbers (e->3, a->4, s->$, a->@, etc.)
4) Mix up the case.


That's actually very easy to remember.

Or, of course, you can do what I do, which is to keep a text file on my computer containing all of them . . . . with the strongest encryption I can manage and an extremely long passphrase.


--Public Service Anouncment

I hate passwords!
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For you nation?


So you would prefer for anyopne to be able to log in as you?

For you nation?


So you would prefer for anyopne to be able to log in as you?

Oops, I thought that you were talking about a pwd for my regio :oops:
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yeha I dont really like regional passwords,it makes the region grow a bit slowly... I guess I should make that more clear in my first post

It could help with regional passwords though,its just basic password security

Nobody shall guess my password.

I has no more than 144 and no less than 0 spaces in it though. :twisted:

Edit: To clarify I mean " " spaces, not charecters.

Ok, my formal suggestion regarding passwords, first, try not to use special Characters (basically anything you can't easily type on a American keyboard). However, for a truly secure password:


The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.




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Ok, my formal suggestion regarding passwords, first, try not to use special Characters (basically anything you can't easily type on a American keyboard). However, for a truly secure password:


The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.

Tech Modling[/b]
Ouch, mine breaks 4 of thhose out of six. Still no hackers though....

4. The password should not be/contain a word in any language.

Not even "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"? :lol:

What about a variant of it?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

4. The password should not be/contain a word in any language.

Not even "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"? :lol:

What about a variant of it?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

Do you realize how many people will now check to see if that's your password - that'd be funny - some nOObie running around as a mod.

cog, i think you watched mary poppins too many times ;)

well, guess i'll need to change some passwords then ;)

My password is the Swahili opposite translation of this word: "無料のお試し楽譜です !"
Try to guess that H@xX0rz! :lol:
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The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.


Translation: if you can easily remember it, it's not secure enough :lol:

Yes well I like special characters,their pretty easy to copy and paste anyways

My password is the Swahili opposite translation of this word: "無料のお試し楽譜です !"
Try to guess that H@xX0rz! :lol:
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It is the free trial musical score?

My password is the Swahili opposite translation of this word: "無料のお試し楽譜です !"
Try to guess that H@xX0rz! :lol:
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It is the free trial musical score?

Darn, now I have to change all my pwd's. Don't you dare to use my Nations! I hate you! :wink:
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Heh.... Was it supposed to translate to that, literally, from Japanese?

Heh.... Was it supposed to translate to that, literally, from Japanese?
Nah, you have to translate it to Swahili, and than the oposite of that.
Like free music samples = complete expensive talkshows, but your mind have to be incredibly twisted to see that :P And than translate it in Swahili. But you are awfully close :oops:
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Hehehe, mine=randomly generated by a program

The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.


Translation: if you can easily remember it, it's not secure enough :lol:
Ah, yes, but nobody shall guess mine. I do use it on other sytems but, they would have to among other things also have Aspergers Syndrome(among other things) to guess it.

The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.


Translation: if you can easily remember it, it's not secure enough :lol:
Ah, yes, but nobody shall guess mine. I do use it on other sytems but, they would have to among other things also have Aspergers Syndrome(among other things) to guess it.

For other who were wondering:

Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes, smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see. It's important to remember that the person with AS perceives the world very differently. Therefore, many behaviors that seem odd or unusual are due to those neurological differences and not the result of intentional rudeness or bad behavior, and most certainly not the result of "improper parenting".

The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.


Ph33r me! For I have broken all all these rules. Doom on me if anyone ever figures out my password. Oh well, they're only for my accounts....no biggie 8)

The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.


Translation: if you can easily remember it, it's not secure enough :lol:

The problem with those rules is that they necessitate the recording of the passwords somewhere other than your own head. If it's not easily remembered, you have to write it down, and most people are idiots about where they keep their password list. (Such as a former boss, who kept it taped to the side of his monitor. He still doesn't know who went in and changed all of his Windows system sounds to screaming monkeys. :lol: )

My password has meaning to me, but nobody but me knows what that meaning is. So it's easily remembered, and isn't any more vulnerable to cracking than one of your supposedly "secure" passwords - you'd still need to use a brute-force attack to crack it.

:twisted:

DS, you make a really good point. My NS passwords are not highly secure, but secure enough for this. There are tricks to building easily rememberable passwords that follow all of the words.

1) Take a foreign word.
2) Transcribe it (if necessary), and then mispell it.
3) Replace letters with similar symbols/numbers (e->3, a->4, s->$, a->@, etc.)
4) Mix up the case.

That's actually very easy to remember.

Or, of course, you can do what I do, which is to keep a text file on my computer containing all of them . . . . with the strongest encryption I can manage and an extremely long passphrase.

Yep. PGP Encryption with a 4096bit key and a 30 character alphanumeric passphrase incorporating special symbols.

No, I'm not paranoid... not at all...

:twisted:

Codecile is me...

Keep posting as the wrong nation

Look, my password is just "Jake" and no one's hacked it yet, so I don't know what you're all so worried about.

Look, my password is just "Jake" and no one's hacked it yet, so I don't know what you're all so worried about.

No it isn't.

Look, my password is just "Jake" and no one's hacked it yet, so I don't know what you're all so worried about.
No it isn't.

You know what that means: someone went in and changed the password before you tried to log in. ;)

Ballotonia

I do believe the first step towards computer security is not disclosing passwords. Even a simple one requires a great deal of effort to break if you do not know what it is. Rather like not leaving a set of house keys under the Welcome mat.

Ok, my formal suggestion regarding passwords, first, try not to use special Characters (basically anything you can't easily type on a American keyboard). However, for a truly secure password:


The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.




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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

Three out of six - not bad :) (but I'm not going to tell which ones ;) )

Anyway, my pass is randomly generated by another site I registered, then I decided I liked it and could easily remember it, and used it for a few other things as well...

I have a biometric fingerprint scanner as my PC password. So unless someone chops of my finger I should be ok (I hope) :roll:

My password for one of my other nations was so obvious (to me) that I forgot it and it ceased to exist. :x

My password for one of my other nations was so obvious (to me) that I forgot it and it ceased to exist. :x

If it had your email address you could have retrieved the password,and you could get it ressurected...

Who cares what SalusaSecondus says, I mean we all know that..

If it had your email address you could have retrieved the password,and you could get it ressurected...I didn't bother putting in my e-mail address because I wasn't going to join the UN.

It is remarkable how from time to time the issue of forgotten passwords pops up. I think that maybe the need for specifying a live e-mail address should be made a bit more urgent in the FAQ.

Ok, my formal suggestion regarding passwords, first, try not to use special Characters (basically anything you can't easily type on a American keyboard). However, for a truly secure password:


The password should be a minimum of 8 letters long
The password should contain letters, numbers, and special symbols (as in the characters above the numbers, braces, punctuation, etc.)
The password should be miXEd CasE.
The password should not be/contain a word in any language.
The password should not consist of personal information (i.e. phone number, date of birth, address, name of your nation, or e-mail address)
The password should not be used for ANY OTHER accounts on ANY OTHER systems.


SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

Does that mean I shouldn't use "password" as my password? :wink:

Does that mean I shouldn't use "password" as my password? :wink:

Well... would anyone expect it? But, just to use the other rules, make it "paSsWOrd1" :lol:

Gack...I used Salusa's tips to change my school password from my NS password to something else. Now I can't remember what it is.

Does that mean I shouldn't use "password" as my password? :wink:

Well... would anyone expect it? But, just to use the other rules, make it "paSsWOrd1" :lol:
I use "password" as my password. :wink:

Note to the clueless: I do not actually use "password" for any of my nations' passwords.

The password should not be/contain a word in any language.

Does that include conlangs?

I put the good advice into my first post now

The password should not be/contain a word in any language.

Does that include conlangs?

Err, what's a conlang?

A conlang is a constructed (?) language. Basically it is an artificial language. Some famous ones are Klingon, Elvish, and Esperanto. However, there are many others made by people across the world (often linguists). I've considered doing it several times, but haven't gotten around to it.

And there would probably not be a problem with using words from a conlang, though I would advise against any of the famous ones.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

A conlang is a constructed (?) language. Basically it is an artificial language. Some famous ones are Klingon, Elvish, and Esperanto. However, there are many others made by people across the world (often linguists). I've considered doing it several times, but haven't gotten around to it.

I've always wanted to create Gunchish....

-Goobergunchia

A conlang is a constructed (?) language. Basically it is an artificial language. Some famous ones are Klingon, Elvish, and Esperanto. However, there are many others made by people across the world (often linguists). I've considered doing it several times, but haven't gotten around to it.

And there would probably not be a problem with using words from a conlang, though I would advise against any of the famous ones.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

I saw this conlang generator script somewhere before.....

Hehehe, mine=randomly generated by a program

Heh, I wrote my password generator...

A conlang is a constructed (?) language. Basically it is an artificial language. Some famous ones are Klingon, Elvish, and Esperanto. However, there are many others made by people across the world (often linguists). I've considered doing it several times, but haven't gotten around to it.

And there would probably not be a problem with using words from a conlang, though I would advise against any of the famous ones.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

Hehehe, been here, done this... ;)

In the middle of webbing it... ;)

I've used Esperanto passwords before. I think the password I forgot may have been in Esperanto, but with the anti-hacking wrong password limit, I couldn't try everything I thought it might have been.
Before the wrong password limit, I used a password made of two English words. Someone tried to get into my account (among many others), but failed.

I make passwords by:

1. Think of a statement that discribes yourself;
"When I'm mad, I'll punch you in the throat"
2. Keep only the first letter of each word;
"wimipyitt"
3. Rearrange the letters to make a nonsensical phrase;
"i pit my wit"
4. Now bring it all together;
"ipitmywit"

Then say it 20 times fast, don't stop 'till you get it right. You'll never forget it as long as you live.

I once had "I will kill again" as my Blockbuster Video card pass phrase. The clerks' eyes always widened . . . :twisted:

I once had "I will kill again" as my Blockbuster Video card pass phrase. The clerks' eyes always widened . . . :twisted:

lol
thats a great idea

how about "this is a holdup,please put the money in the bag and lie on the floor"

My mighty modling powers (along with a bit of curiousity) have granted me the knowledge that 443 different nations use the EXACT same password (no, they don't appear to be puppets). Now, I don't know what the password is, and I won't say who these nations are, but, if you are using an obvious password like "NationStates", "Jennifer Government", or other things like that, please change it.

Thanks.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

:!:
443?
:shock:

if you can check for thesame passwords, can you tell of my password is unique?

if you can check for thesame passwords, can you tell of my password is unique?

I can, but I shall not simply because I will not be able to handle the sheer number of requests from players. Also because with sensitive information such as this I will only grant information in aggragate.

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Tech Modling

if you can check for thesame passwords, can you tell of my password is unique?

I can, but I shall not simply because I will not be able to handle the sheer number of requests from players. Also because with sensitive information such as this I will only grant information in aggragate.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

too bad.

As I am an American I do not know.

What is "aggregate"?

As I am an American I do not know.

What is "aggregate"?

I'm an American but I think I do,I think he means as a general large number of people, like when he said 443 people have the same password,as opposed to saying one person has an unique pass

I see.

I think I get it now too.

Thanks. :D