NationStates Jolt Archive

I'v seen some kinda weird explanation for how much money you should have but ya have to be a rocket scientist to understand what the hell it's saying. Is there an easier way to know how much money I have?

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=NATION_NAME

Your national budget is $25.3bn. It is unrealistic to be spending much more than a quarter of that on any one sector of the economy. So your defence budget would be $6-7bn, for example.

sweet link :wink:
thanks

$2.15

i'm interresting by how that is calculed
someone can explain to me the manual method?

That will almost certainly be in a NationStates or International Incidents Forum sticky.

theres a more detailed version of that, which provides you with your military budget etc.


http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=nuttylnd&randomize=10&defenseprovided=1&defense=45&militarybudget=1&defense1

simply replace nuttylnd with your nation name, and replace the #45 with what your % of budget spent on the military is(this is a number you yourself decide, but realize that its unrealistic to spend more then 50% on your military and still have a stable nation)

Indeed, even late 1930s USSR, as absurd an industrialised state as can be imagined, never spent more than 40% of its budget on military.

How come it don't include political freedoms?

YOu can use this to determine your whole national budget.

I dont get why my nations bugget is so low compared to others can you telegram me please and explain why??

Necronz Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,128,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Good
GDP per Capita: $10,000
GDP: $11,280,000,000,000
National Budget: $2,709,997,440,000

no it's good for your popualition number

These are some excellent links, thanks to whomever put in the work on these!

Out of interest does anybody have ones for working out the GDP of a whole region?

No, but would be fairly easy to code. Simply pull out the names of nations in a region from the regional RSS feed, run them through the GDPcalc and then pull out the numbers and tally them

i had a thread about this in the european forum...


Civil rights and your Economy are the two biggest players on your budget, civil rights doesnt have nearly as much of an impact...but here's an example

there are nations much larger then my nation in europe, who have frightening economies just like i do, but they have budgets around9 and 10 trillion

my budget is roughly 22 trillion

why?

because my civil rights are "good", and theres are "unheard of" "outlawed" or "some"

and also...the united states spent 52% of its budget on the military in 1960, but this wasnt for very long
(this is all for rping and what not)

No, but would be fairly easy to code. Simply pull out the names of nations in a region from the regional RSS feed, run them through the GDPcalc and then pull out the numbers and tally them

Erm in english? I've no idea what you just said!

Necronz Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,128,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Good
GDP per Capita: $10,000
GDP: $11,280,000,000,000
National Budget: $2,709,997,440,000

no it's good for your popualition number
That's not that good all things considered. My puppet has a better budget.

Terra Amore Gross Domestic Product

Population: 393,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $13,755,000,000,000
National Budget: $7,362,336,240,000

Necronz, you have to raise your economy and civil rights ratings as they affect your budget the most.


Luna Amore

Can anyone explain why civil rights effect your economy?

Honestly I don't know, but they do.

Citizens with more personal freedom are more likely to spend money on luxuries, thus aiding the nations economy.

The Civil Rights modifier is a percenrtage modification. Plus or minus 10%, I believe.

Unless I'm remembering a different calculator. There's been a bunch of them.

On this matter: If you repeatedly decrease your military spending (i.e. the "military demands increased spending"-issue comes up several times and you say "disarm now" each time), does this get recorded or have any effect at all except for the temporary statement in the nation info page?

Yes, you drop down the UN military spending and arms industry rankings. If you do it several times, you could go down 10,000-20,000 places very easily, if not further. For some, a very low ranking is a matter of pride, for others, the reverse.

Ah, cool. Do these calculators have any way to determine this? The one mentioned in this thread says I'm spending 45% of my budget on military, although I've stripped it back two times now (and never increased, for that matter). Is there something like the calculators for other areas like education?

Those calculators only look at your nation; in order to give you an up to date UN ranking, they would have to compare your nation to every other in the game. Obviously, they do not do that. But every day a new UN ranking is published, there are many different ones and they occur at random. You should wait until military spending and arms industry come around again, and see where you are. Your nation page will tell you in what position you are in your region and in the world.

Regarding other sectors such as education, UN rankings are published for many things, so every day you will see how your nation compares to others with regard to a particular attribute, for example weather, the environment, happiness of citizens, etc. However, for details of expenditure for individual nations, you would have to find a calculator which has that sort of function. Understandably, the people who make such things tend to focus on the military side, as this is what usually counts in RP.

So these calcs do not have access to some specific data like how many times certain issues were answered in a certain way, but are using only the population and the three stats only?

Yes, as far as I know that is the case. It is quite crude, but it serves as a reasonable rough indicator, and everyone is subject to the same uncertainties. If and when NS2 comes out, the mechanisms will be much more sophisticated. See the NationStates 2 Forum for player input on what features should be included. As things are, knowing your national and military budgets is sufficient to take part in some trade RP. Obviously, as you do this, you will get more experience and be able to ask more experienced RPers for advice. I am afraid my understanding of such things does not stretch to actual participation.

Necronz Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,128,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Good
GDP per Capita: $10,000
GDP: $11,280,000,000,000
National Budget: $2,709,997,440,000

no it's good for your popualition number
That's not that good all things considered. My puppet has a better budget.

Terra Amore Gross Domestic Product

Population: 393,000,000
Civil Rights: Very Good
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $13,755,000,000,000
National Budget: $7,362,336,240,000

Necronz, you have to raise your economy and civil rights ratings as they affect your budget the most.


Luna Amore


thanks!