NationStates Jolt Archive

Recent events have showed that the practice of giving spammers another chance has failed. One spammer in particular is now on his third nation. I now propose that when a Moderator, upon making the formal checks in response to a complaint, discovers evidence of spamming, the offending nation is deleted without any further reference to it, any nations shown to be used by the same player also deleted, and an IP ban put in place.

If this is actually current policy (though from my personal experience with a number of different spammers this seems unlikely), I would suggest that the implementation of IP bans is given much higher priority than at present. Two or three whole days is not acceptable.

Mods can't IP ban. It requires an Admin (as I understand it)

Would this apply to obvious "spamspamspamspam" spammers, or to propagandist and/or endorsement-gathering mass-messages as well?

I am well aware that Moderators cannot IP ban directly, they must file a request to the Admin. They should do this for the first offence.

And when I say spam, I do not refer to recruitment telegrams or the soliciting of support for UN business. That is legitimate if restraint is shown. I am talking about f*gs spamming your inbox with their filth for four days running. :x

I think people deserve a second chance, people make mistakes.

After that I see this as a good idea.

Just my 2 sense.

Not all spammers are repeat offenders. Banning the IPs of all spammers seems a bit drastic. The particular spammer you are refering to is an offensive flamer and a repeat spammer, and as such deserves the most rigorous of penalties.

The system I believe would be reasonable (for dealing with the "flood regional events/regional messages/telegrams with repeated messages" spammers, not other types) is the following:

First offence - delete the nation. With this type of spam, their intentions are clear, so this is a suitable warning.
Second offence - IP ban. After having a nation deleted, it should be unmistakably clear to the spammer that the moderators do not approve of their actions, so there is no excuse for a person to resume spamming with a new nation.

It may seem like a harsh system, but I believe spam of this nature is always intended to annoy, and that dealing with it in this manner is quite appropriate.


If the current problems are due to slow communication between the moderators and administrators or IP bans being of relatively low priority, I would suggest that the game moderators be given the ability to place temporary IP bans.

i have an adsl connection and my ip change at every connection, i don't think ban ip are a good solution.

We usually go:

Warning
Deletion
Deletion
Deletion
IP Ban
Call the ISP
Call the FBI

It can take a while to work through it, but it does work.

We usually go:

Warning
Deletion
Deletion
Deletion
IP Ban
Call the ISP
Call the FBI

It can take a while to work through it, but it does work.

How many times have the FBI been called?

We usually go:

Warning
Deletion
Deletion
Deletion
IP Ban
Call the ISP
Call the FBI

It can take a while to work through it, but it does work.
Not sure if you are joking about the FBI, but might I humbly suggest . . . ?

Warning
Deletion
IP ban

It would greatly reduce your workload . . . ;)

I dunno about the FBI... but that black car sure has been parked outside my house for a long time... :shock:

Plus how about bans on any proxy servers used by spammers? I know it must be easy, because a while ago I linked to one on my personal website so that people from my school could access webmail from the intranet, which was not allowed. The server was blocked fast.