NationStates Jolt Archive

I say you allow founder, and if the delegate has powers, to delete post on their forums. This will save alot of trouble when spammers attack or you make a big mistake, or someone says something they shouldn't...ect ect.

Thoughts?

I like that. Also, I believe if someone is sending harassing telegrammes to you, you should be able to block them until a moderator is informed.

I think that it would be nice if everybody could edit (and if no replies delete) posts on the message boards.

Problem is, that would take a lot of coding, and same with your idea.

I like that. Also, I believe if someone is sending harassing telegrammes to you, you should be able to block them until a moderator is informed.
Once again, coding issues.

Although if you code it they might do it.

I think that would be a great idea! But I also agree it would take a lot of coding.

sounds good to me. not that my region EVER has fear of spammers... its as if we live in a corner of the world that no one really visits... oh well...

still it sounds to be a good idea.

Sadly, my region is a famous one, and we get spammed all the time, not just the message board, but individuals' telegrams too. Old enemies coming back, etc. When we have password protection off, it is at least a weekly occurence. However, deleting posts is not really what I am after - I would prefer deleting the offending nations. Naturally, this ability should never be given to mere mortal nations, so I have to make do with reporting troublemakers to the Moderators. I think adding a post removal tool to Regional Controls would not be of much benefit, considering the work that would be involved.

Maybe not to you, but it would help alot for us smaller, less spammed regions though.

or rather, it helps the in between nations. the two extrememes have reasons for not needed it desperately, my region being represented as an extreme, and Tacical's the other.

and my statistical opinion on this little problem is that there are obviously a heck of alot more regions in the "in between" than in the extrememes at this point. I could be wrong tho as I have no idea of the average numbers in regions and nation/region ratios and whatnot and I REALLY do not care to find out... YEESH a person could go BLIND with that stuff...

I don't like this. People could post things, and the mods wouldn't be able to see what's going on if a problem arises. The evidence is erased.

NO!

what ever happpened to free speech, yes I know there are some problems woth spammers, but they can just be kicked. A renegade founder or delegate would cause havoc in a region if given these powers

I say you allow founder, and if the delegate has powers, to delete post on their forums. This will save alot of trouble when spammers attack or you make a big mistake, or someone says something they shouldn't...ect ect.

Thoughts?

I wonder if there is a way to do that if someone posts with the same nation 3 times in a row. I mean, if they only post two things, then it cannot be deleted, but three in a row, they are open (those three posts) to be deleted. This could act as a sort of check on the delegate or founder so they do not get power hungry. The number 3 is simply a variable that can change, I just used it because it seems like a good number.

NO!

what ever happpened to free speech, yes I know there are some problems woth spammers, but they can just be kicked. A renegade founder or delegate would cause havoc in a region if given these powers

In the end, I would have to agree with him.

or rather, it helps the in between nations. the two extrememes have reasons for not needed it desperately, my region being represented as an extreme, and Tacical's the other.

and my statistical opinion on this little problem is that there are obviously a heck of alot more regions in the "in between" than in the extrememes at this point. I could be wrong tho as I have no idea of the average numbers in regions and nation/region ratios and whatnot and I REALLY do not care to find out... YEESH a person could go BLIND with that stuff...

My region contains around 60 nations (70 right now), which puts us around 60th in the World in terms of size. Out of 9,300 regions, this is not bad. Having around 50 nations would put you in the top hundred, and I am told there are around 400 regions with 30 or more nations. The average number of nations in a region is no more than ten though, which is due to the huge number of people having personal regions, regions restricted to RL friends, or attempting to start their own mega-region, attempts which are usually met with apathy.

I would love to make a distribution curve of region populations, I would need an entire free day though.

Anyway, the huge number of tiny regions would get little from the tool proposed as they do not have much of a spamming problem. The elite regions would get nothing from being able to delete a few posts every week when the spammer comes back (our current spammer is the third to be operated by the same player in two weeks, and an IP ban looks likely). What counts for them is swift Moderator action. Maybe as you say it is the in between regions of perhaps 20-35 players who would benefit, there are many hundreds of them, if not a few thousand. But it would be an awful lot of work for the Admin.

The best way to keep spamming out is to password the region. Deleting posts just runs into a whole mess of future problems.

Yes well I want my region to grow. Really I am seeing this form my own eyes, being the leader of a 80-+ region I really would liek to have this, not to mention my states. Anyway just a thought anyway.

Same thing here, passwording kills us. Lots of people hear about us and try to join, but run into a password request and don't even bother telegramming anyone for it, just move elsewhere. Being passwordless is the only way we can keep numbers steady. Sadly, we have only had ours down for a week and a half and we had three spammers and a griefing attempt. So we are passworded again. It sucks.

Turn off delegate options and laugh at griefers in the face! HHAHHAHAA

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Other then that glad you like the idea.


PS: To all those saying it is alot of work, cut and paste game mod code to edit and delete regional forum post into the founder options and bamn done.

PS: To all those saying it is alot of work, cut and paste game mod code to edit and delete regional forum post into the founder options and bamn done.

It isn't that simple.

*kicks in knee*
*Whispers* Shut up I am trying to sell my idea!

NO!

what ever happpened to free speech, yes I know there are some problems woth spammers, but they can just be kicked. A renegade founder or delegate would cause havoc in a region if given these powers

Well, I'm sure a way ould be sent for for deleted posts to be mod-viewable if it came to that.

I would love to make a distribution curve of region populations, I would need an entire free day though.

The Nation States Bunny has a script that can do that in a heartbeat --well, maybe a bit longer (as well as many other things). I think Salusa wormed it out of the Bunny, or figured it out, as I think I saw him playing with it awhile ago.

I say you allow founder, and if the delegate has powers, to delete post on their forums. This will save alot of trouble when spammers attack or you make a big mistake, or someone says something they shouldn't...ect ect.

Thoughts?

Wonderful way to set up dicatatorship within the regions. Block even the ability for nations to post before dying (being kicked from your region).

I am not going to be judgmental on this, because I am all about the game allowing different poltical perspectives, but this is what you are setting up.

I would love to make a distribution curve of region populations, I would need an entire free day though.

The Nation States Bunny has a script that can do that in a heartbeat --well, maybe a bit longer (as well as many other things). I think Salusa wormed it out of the Bunny, or figured it out, as I think I saw him playing with it awhile ago.

[Envy] :twisted:

The Nation States Bunny has a script that can do that in a heartbeat --well, maybe a bit longer (as well as many other things). I think Salusa wormed it out of the Bunny, or figured it out, as I think I saw him playing with it awhile ago.

First, I wrote my own script (thank you very much!)
Second, I have many tricks up my sleeve.

How about this, when I get around to it, I will post a distribution graph of region size as of September 5th?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/salusasecondus/salusasecondus2.jpg
[b]SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling[/b

The Nation States Bunny has a script that can do that in a heartbeat

One doesn't need to run around NS to gather population data, it's much simpler to just pull the info from the Regionlist (and easier on the server too :) ).

I have a file with the data that I pulled it about a week ago. It's basically a flat file with two columns: # of nations and region ID (region ID is the name with underscores instead of spaces, and all letters in low-caps).

If you're interested, TM me.

Ballotonia

If you're interested, TM me.

Mines a tad older, but it is in a powerful database, so I'll just use it.

I say you allow founder, and if the delegate has powers, to delete post on their forums. This will save alot of trouble when spammers attack or you make a big mistake, or someone says something they shouldn't...ect ect.

Thoughts?

I like it, I also think that it would be nice if we could ban countries who regulary spam regional message boards by banning them from writing on them but allowing them to remain in the region and when they have learnt there lesson alow them to start posting messages, but if the countries continues to post spam on the regional board then the country should be kicked out of the region 8)

How about this, when I get around to it, I will post a distribution graph of region size as of September 5th?

Cool, I would love to see that.

Akbar did you really have to quote. Anyway it helps stop RP mistakes such as say you type bomb X but you meant bomb Y it could make a big difference. It always helps from over flooding the forum. But hey what you do with it is your choice. Also Akbar does it matter if someone wants a dictatorship region?? It is their region, yes?

Actually what I'd prefer to see first is banning nations who aren't in the region yet

Akbar did you really have to quote. Anyway it helps stop RP mistakes such as say you type bomb X but you meant bomb Y it could make a big difference. It always helps from over flooding the forum. But hey what you do with it is your choice. Also Akbar does it matter if someone wants a dictatorship region?? It is their region, yes?

For such a long thread (two pages now) it is good to let someone know if you are directing something to them. I quoted you before to let you know that, tho anyone can say anything, I was directing my response to you. I am quoting you now so that you can follow that I am attempting to respond to both parts of your post. I hope this doesn't bother you.

As well, as I actually stated that there is an argument to setting up dictatorships. I will now quote myself.


I am not going to be judgmental on this, because I am all about the game allowing different poltical perspectives, but this is what you are setting up.


If those behind the game are fine with setting up and enforcing such a dictatorship then I am mostly fine with this, sure (since not all UN DEL are dictators and not all would use this feature). That said, simply wanted to point out this is what would be set up with the implementation of this idea.

First, I wrote my own script (thank you very much!)
Second, I have many tricks up my sleeve.

Hope I didn't insult you. I have nothing but admiration (and some envy) for your abilities. http://ofp.info/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/worship.gif
Runs off to pester Ballatonia who has offered to share.

NO offense was taken. That was just rightous indignation.

That reminds me of a line from the Simpsons,when Homer was running a daycare and it comes out what a bad father he is,Apu says "My Rightous indignation know no bounds!"

bump

Oops, kinda forgot about this one. Look, I don't think that this Del/Fon. power will be coming any time soon (if at all), however, with the distribution, that I can do, and thanks for the reminder.