NationStates Jolt Archive


Signatures Enabled?

03-09-2003, 01:15
I know on other phpBB boards that you can add a custom signature to all of your posts. I was wondering if [violet] or [reploidproductions] would enable that feature and if not give a reason why. I dont want to sound to picky but it would be nice to have your signature added automatically instead of typing it up or Copying and pasting it every time.

Juse a minor request.

-Commander EvilDictator :twisted:
Dictator of Geforce4
Commander and Chief of the Military
http://phpbb.com/styles/gallery/albums/Avatars/Avatar_pack_1/044.gif

(I know this is OOC but i like my signature :D )
NuMetal
03-09-2003, 01:17
Its probably a bandwith/server space issue
03-09-2003, 01:18
Its probably a bandwith/server space issue


Thats what I would guess but if its not then i dont see why they wouldnt.
Rapid Dr3am
03-09-2003, 01:23
They have ripped phpBB apart. They don't allow you access to usercp_register.php, which contains the profile data.

This is to prevent anyone causing changes to their account which will lead to the game not working correctly.

Regards,
Rapid Dr3am.
03-09-2003, 01:24
They have ripped phpBB apart. They don't allow you access to usercp_register.php, which contains the profile data.

This is to prevent anyone causing changes to their account which will lead to the game not working correctly.

Regards,
Rapid Dr3am.

Ah thank you Rapid. They still have the memberlist.php!
Rapid Dr3am
03-09-2003, 02:04
Yeah, they still have a few things. ;)

$sql = "DELETE FROM " . BRAIN_TABLE . "
WHERE user_id = $user_id";
if ( !$db->sql_query($sql) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Sleep', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}
[reploidproductions]
03-09-2003, 02:12
[violet] doesn't have sigs enabled in part to discourage people having hugely overkill sigs flooding the forums.

~Evil Empress [Rep Prod] the Forum Admin
03-09-2003, 02:26
][violet] doesn't have sigs enabled in part to discourage people having hugely overkill sigs flooding the forums.

~Evil Empress [Rep Prod] the Forum Admin

Couldn't a limit be but on such as 200 characters or something?
Aquilla
03-09-2003, 02:29
][violet] doesn't have sigs enabled in part to discourage people having hugely overkill sigs flooding the forums.

~Evil Empress [Rep Prod] the Forum Admin

A NEW ADMIN! LIKE WOW!
03-09-2003, 02:34
][violet] doesn't have sigs enabled in part to discourage people having hugely overkill sigs flooding the forums.

~Evil Empress [Rep Prod] the Forum Admin

A NEW ADMIN! LIKE WOW!

Yes and one I find greatly qualified for the position.
Merdonia
03-09-2003, 02:57
I would agree with the bandwidth. Every time a post is opened it has to pull with it all of the sigs. For is active as this board looks this could end up getting quite large, even if the size is regulated. And like Rapid Dr3am this is not really a phpBB board anymore. Not that that is a bad thing!:D
03-09-2003, 19:04
If you really wanted to use signatures you could type it with all the code onto a text document and save it on the desktop. then when you need to use it open the file and copy and paste it onto the message...
Peng-Pau
03-09-2003, 20:50
Yeah, they still have a few things. ;)

$sql = "DELETE FROM " . BRAIN_TABLE . "
WHERE user_id = $user_id";
if ( !$db->sql_query($sql) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Sleep', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$sql = "SELECT * FROM " . USERS_TABLE . " WHERE clue > 0;"
$result = $db->sql_query($sql);
echo $result;

SQL returned 0 rows.
Peng-Pau
03-09-2003, 20:51
I would agree with the bandwidth. Every time a post is opened it has to pull with it all of the sigs. For is active as this board looks this could end up getting quite large, even if the size is regulated. And like Rapid Dr3am this is not really a phpBB board anymore. Not that that is a bad thing!:D

?!?

What you mean it's not really a phpBB board any more?!?!

It's very much a phpBB board. It'll always be a phpBB board as long as it's based on phpBB, it's just highly gutted.
The Most Glorious Hack
04-09-2003, 13:36
Old thought problem:

After Ulysses completed his quest, his ship was preserved.

As boards rotted or were taken by time, they were replaced. One by one the old, dead boards were removed, and new boards put in there place.

At some point, it was realised that not a single board from the ship remained. Over the years everyone of them had been replaced with a newer board. There was nothing original left of the ship.

At what point did it cease to be the ship Ulysses took on his legendary quest?

New twist:

At what point does this cease to truly be a php board?
Gurguvungunit
04-09-2003, 15:14
YEEEK!
Hack, pleez don't mess with my mind like that... :(
It's to early...

Anyway, I once asked [violet] this, and s/he told me that it was a bandwidth issue.
Cogitation
04-09-2003, 16:23
Old thought problem:

After Ulysses completed his quest, his ship was preserved.

As boards rotted or were taken by time, they were replaced. One by one the old, dead boards were removed, and new boards put in there place.

At some point, it was realised that not a single board from the ship remained. Over the years everyone of them had been replaced with a newer board. There was nothing original left of the ship.

At what point did it cease to be the ship Ulysses took on his legendary quest?

New twist:

At what point does this cease to truly be a php board?

As you live and breathe, new cells are created from the food you eat and old cells die and are shed from your body as waste, as dandruff, skin flakes, whatever.

Eventually, not a single cell in your body remains that you started with when you were born (or at any arbitrary point in your life, as this total replacement eventually occurs every several years or something).

At what point do you stop being The Most Glorious Hack? Or do you ever stop being The Most Glorious Hack?

My knowledge of biology is limited, so I may be wrong. Additionally, I do not believe that brain cells grow back during adulthood (if what I remember about human anatomy is correct), implying that the brain cells you have when your brain stops growing are brain cells you die with. So, this would give Hack an easy-out answer.

Questions like this only have easy answers if one speaks of indivisible units that can neither be added to nor subtracted from (like the fundamental particles of theoretical physics). However, if the object in question is really a collection of objects connected in some manner (boards in a ship, people in a community, blocks in a Lego toy construct), then you have to be careful about your definitions.

If you define "the ship that Ulysses (or Odysseus, if you want to go with the original Greek; the Romans basically adopted Greek mythology wholesale when they invaded) originally sailed on" as being the set of objects that were used as ship parts by Ulysses at the time that Ulysses used those parts, then the answer to your [Hack's] question is either the time the first board was removed or the time the last board was removed. (Here, the definition might have to be further refined in order to select one of those two points in time.)

However, if you define Ulysses' ship as being a set of objects that, when properly assembled, is seaworthy, then it's still Ulysses' ship. Replace one board, it's still a ship. Replace half the boards, it's still a ship.
At no time was the entire thing ever disassembled.

It depends upon your definition of what, exactly, constitutes Ulysses' ship.

This is still a php board. It's a severely modified php board, but it's still a php board.

"Think about it for a moment." :wink:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia
The Most Glorious Hack
04-09-2003, 16:40
I was expecting something like this from you :wink:

My knowledge of biology is limited, so I may be wrong. Additionally, I do not believe that brain cells grow back during adulthood (if what I remember about human anatomy is correct), implying that the brain cells you have when your brain stops growing are brain cells you die with. So, this would give Hack an easy-out answer.

Yeah, that's how I remember it.

Of course, my thought experiment was brought up in jest, as I wager your post is as well.

For what it's worth, I used Ulysses instead of Odysseus as I couldn't remember the original name. It's been a long night.

However, my point was more that at some point, it really isn't his ship anymore. Obviously, if they had just scrapped it, and built a new ship that looked exactly the same, it wouldn't be the same, it'd be a replica. Yet, when the boards are replaced one by one, the same result is still (eventually) obtained, but for some reason, it is still thought of as the real, or original, ship.

As you put it:

then the answer to your [Hack's] question is either the time the first board was removed or the time the last board was removed.

I disagree. Obviously replacing just one board doesn't change the ship. Things were probably replaced on the journey. Likewise, the last board can't be the point either. When 99.99% of the ship isn't original, how can you call it the original? One board does not a ship make.

For those interested in this paradox and others, I recommend Labyrinths of Reason by William Poundstone. That's where I first read about it.
Cogitation
04-09-2003, 17:18
I was expecting something like this from you :wink:

:lol:

Of course, my thought experiment was brought up in jest, as I wager your post is as well.

Partly in jest; it is an interesting intellectual exercise. :)

For the most part, I'm going to impersonate a mathematician (I'm really an engineer) and say that it all depends upon how you define it. If you treat the individual boards as indivisible pieces that can neither be added to nor subtracted from, then one can define "the original ship" as being the boards that were in place when Odysseus last used the ship. Then, as boards are replaced, one can describe the ship as "consisting of 65% of the boards of the original ship" or whatever number you're down to.

I disagree. Obviously replacing just one board doesn't change the ship. Things were probably replaced on the journey. Likewise, the last board can't be the point either. When 99.99% of the ship isn't original, how can you call it the original? One board does not a ship make.

Changing one board of the ship is changing the ship itself. By definition, a set remains unchanged if, and only if, all of it's members remain unchanged. If one of the boards is changed, then the set is changed, however minutely. But does that remove the set's status as "original"?

In my opinion, it really comes down to how you define "original set". Since we're treating the boards as indivisible pieces, it's easy to talk about the "original boards" and remain confident that we know what we're talking about. But, does "original ship" mean "all of the original boards and only the original boards" or does it mean something else*? One might be able to come up with a definition for "original ship" such that we can still talk about the ship as "Odysseus' original ship" even though every board has been replaced ten times over**. We merely need to include somwhere in the definition that the set has to be continuously usable as a ship (with provisions for temporary unseaworthiness while boards are replaced).

* ...something else that I've yet to describe properly?

** ...and I'm still trying to figure out what such a defintion would be. But, it should be possible to come up with such a definition.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
Founder of The Realm of Ambrosia
04-09-2003, 18:28
The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.
Cogitation
04-09-2003, 18:41
The whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.

Agreed, but nobody's debating that. :wink: What we want to know is: if you replace one of the original parts with a non-original part, then is the whole still the original whole?

How To Go Off-Topic 201 :lol:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Rapid Dr3am
04-09-2003, 18:49
Yeah, they still have a few things. ;)

$sql = "DELETE FROM " . BRAIN_TABLE . "
WHERE user_id = $user_id";
if ( !$db->sql_query($sql) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Sleep', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$sql = "SELECT * FROM " . USERS_TABLE . " WHERE clue > 0;"
$result = $db->sql_query($sql);
echo $result;

SQL returned 0 rows.

:lol:
Peng-Pau
04-09-2003, 18:53
find / -name \*yourbase\* -exec chown us:us {} \;
Cogitation
04-09-2003, 19:56
Yeah, they still have a few things. ;)

$sql = "DELETE FROM " . BRAIN_TABLE . "
WHERE user_id = $user_id";
if ( !$db->sql_query($sql) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Sleep', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$sql = "SELECT * FROM " . USERS_TABLE . " WHERE clue > 0;"
$result = $db->sql_query($sql);
echo $result;

SQL returned 0 rows.

:lol:

I'm not familiar with this kind of code, so let me take a guess:

It means that they don't have a clue? :lol:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
NuMetal
04-09-2003, 21:17
Old thought problem:

After Ulysses completed his quest, his ship was preserved.

As boards rotted or were taken by time, they were replaced. One by one the old, dead boards were removed, and new boards put in there place.

At some point, it was realised that not a single board from the ship remained. Over the years everyone of them had been replaced with a newer board. There was nothing original left of the ship.

At what point did it cease to be the ship Ulysses took on his legendary quest?

New twist:

At what point does this cease to truly be a php board?

Well just to oversimplify,I'd say when over 50% of the original boards are gone.
The Most Glorious Hack
05-09-2003, 08:25
Ah, hijacking...

Partly in jest; it is an interesting intellectual exercise. :)

Yes; indeed it is.


If you treat the individual boards as indivisible pieces that can neither be added to nor subtracted from, then one can define "the original ship" as being the boards that were in place when Odysseus last used the ship. Then, as boards are replaced, one can describe the ship as "consisting of 65% of the boards of the original ship" or whatever number you're down to.

Mathematicaly, true. However, if you look at it from a purely "common man" direction, you can't work with an absolute like that. The average person wouldn't look at, say, a 95% original, 5% "new", version of Odysseus' ship and say it wasn't his ship. However, that same person might look at a 1%/99% ship and say it wasn't really the original anymore.

Using mathematical sets kills the paradox.

Changing one board of the ship is changing the ship itself. By definition, a set remains unchanged if, and only if, all of it's members remain unchanged. If one of the boards is changed, then the set is changed, however minutely. But does that remove the set's status as "original"?

Something like questioning if people have souls, isn't it? Is the object "Odysseus' Ship" the boards, rigging, etc. or is it something more?

We merely need to include somwhere in the definition that the set has to be continuously usable as a ship (with provisions for temporary unseaworthiness while boards are replaced).

Heh, exactly.
Cogitation
05-09-2003, 11:45
Using mathematical sets kills the paradox.

Solves the paradox. I believe that the word you're looking for is "solve". :wink:

Ah, hijacking...

Hmmm.... :? Do you think we should stop?

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
The Most Glorious Hack
05-09-2003, 14:24
Using mathematical sets kills the paradox.

Solves the paradox. I believe that the word you're looking for is "solve". :wink:

Ah, what fun are paradoxes when they're solved? :wink:

Ah, hijacking...

Hmmm.... :? Do you think we should stop?

Might as well. I think we've debated this enough, and I am supposed to uphold the rules here :wink:
Peng-Pau
07-09-2003, 16:51
Yeah, they still have a few things. ;)

$sql = "DELETE FROM " . BRAIN_TABLE . "
WHERE user_id = $user_id";
if ( !$db->sql_query($sql) )
{
message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, 'Sleep', '', __LINE__, __FILE__, $sql);
}

$sql = "SELECT * FROM " . USERS_TABLE . " WHERE clue > 0;"
$result = $db->sql_query($sql);
echo $result;

SQL returned 0 rows.

:lol:

I'm not familiar with this kind of code, so let me take a guess:

It means that they don't have a clue? :lol:

--The Democratic States of Cogitation

It means find everyone who has a clue and print the result.
Goobergunchia
07-09-2003, 19:43
Back on topic...

One thing I like about NOT having auto-sig lines is being able to change the sig depending on what I'm saying.

For example, in the UN forum my sig is usually:

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Delegate
DU Regional Delegate

while in other forums it is often

Lord Goobergunch, Goobergunchian President
DU Regional Delegate

and once I even signed off as my minister of Health and Welfare.
Rapid Dr3am
07-09-2003, 21:08
Then why not add a variable to a php script to pick out the forum id and display accordingly/