NationStates Jolt Archive

I am the United Socialist States of Paradiszia,but I want to be the United Soviet States of Paradiszia.I see some people with other names that you normaly can't have,so how do you do it? :?:

tell me.

As far as I know... you have to be a mod. Just check out all their names.

Only mods can do it. And AFAIK they don't do it. They only editted their own titles.

I think you USED to be able to do it, at the beginning, but that feature was removed - the people who had already chosen one were allowed to keep it.

[violet] is thinking about letting people with a population of 500 million+ but only if we remind her. Remind her people!

500 Million? Bah! Make it a billion, at least. The last thing we need is hundreds of custom names.

500 Million? Bah! Make it a billion, at least. The last thing we need is hundreds of custom names.

I so agree.

Oh, I say at least 600 million!

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I think everyone should make their own title when starting. But that's that, no changing.

A billion, maybe 1.4 billion. A custom name isn't special when everyone has one.

A billion, maybe 1.4 billion. A custom name isn't special when everyone has one.
Christ, stop the elitist "special" feature attitude guys. 500 millions should be enough to have a custom title. It's a game and people are supposed to have fun: what's the point in making features for older nations? What does it prove? You are a better player? A better RPer? That's plain silly.

That we've stuck with the game longer. That's why the 2002 nations get so much respect. They stuck with it. If everyone has a custom title, is it really so special and custom anymore? I don't think so.

That we've stuck with the game longer. That's why the 2002 nations get so much respect. They stuck with it. If everyone has a custom title, is it really so special and custom anymore? I don't think so.
And why having a custom title should be something special in the first place? And this "stuck with the game longer" argument is so weak. If I had found this place back in 2002 I would probably still be here too. Kindergarten attitude: "Wheee! I got there first! Wheeee! I'm the best!"

That we've stuck with the game longer. That's why the 2002 nations get so much respect. They stuck with it. If everyone has a custom title, is it really so special and custom anymore? I don't think so.

You know, a lot of players have more than one nation. For all you know, I have been playing NS since 2002, although looking at Uncle Dunkle alone would indicate otherwise.

Having an older nation doesn't make you a more deserving player. If you're going to hand out customised nation names based on merit, at least think of something more relevant than the year in which a nation was founded.

Ah, yes, but the IPs can be seen, and people know if you have more than one nation, and just what nation(s) that is.

That we've stuck with the game longer. That's why the 2002 nations get so much respect. They stuck with it. If everyone has a custom title, is it really so special and custom anymore? I don't think so.

You know, a lot of players have more than one nation. For all you know, I have been playing NS since 2002, although looking at Uncle Dunkle alone would indicate otherwise.

Having an older nation doesn't make you a more deserving player. If you're going to hand out customised nation names based on merit, at least think of something more relevant than the year in which a nation was founded.

Yup, i've been playing since late 2002. I have 3 other chars, and a few more i won't even consider using anymore, being that they were made to test out the game.

Ah, yes, but the IPs can be seen, and people know if you have more than one nation, and just what nation(s) that is.

So? I don't use my old chars, i would have had them deleted if i could. But oh well.

Ah, yes, but the IPs can be seen, and people know if you have more than one nation, and just what nation(s) that is.

You didn't answer the other half of his post.

This is not a question of determining who's got around for the longest time. We all know it's fairly easy to determine, even if you have a thousand puppets. The real issue is to know if older means better. Let's take an example:

1) I do have more posts than you. Am I a better RPer? Am I a spammer?
2) You have been on NS for longer than me: Are you a better player? Are you an idler that checks his nation once in a while?

Can't you see determining merit based on the age of a nation is elitist and stupid?

Yes, you have valid points, and I agree with them. However, older does increase the probability of finding a nation that isn't a spammer, or flamer, because they tend to get bored. Marathon seemed to be a notable exemption from this.

1) It would depend on the nature of posts. Normack wasn't a spammer, per se, but never really RP'ed.

2) Again, it depends on the case.

I just tried to make simple criteria, because who would get to decide if a player is worth of a custom name? A population one is simple, and rather easy to implement. Perhaps there could be a provision for upstanding players, who would deserve such an honor.

Yes, you have valid points, and I agree with them. However, older does increase the probability of finding a nation that isn't a spammer, or flamer, because they tend to get bored. Marathon seemed to be a notable exemption from this.

1) It would depend on the nature of posts. Normack wasn't a spammer, per se, but never really RP'ed.

2) Again, it depends on the case.

I just tried to make simple criteria, because who would get to decide if a player is worth of a custom name? A population one is simple, and rather easy to implement. Perhaps there could be a provision for upstanding players, who would deserve such an honor.

Yes, I see your point. Perhaps a more simple idea would be to lower the population needed to get a custom title. It's not like it makes any difference actually, but I admit I find it quite frustrated not to be able to name Underaloz the United Corporations of Underaloz. To me, this is an RP feature and as such shouldn't be limited to a small number of players. Oh well... it's not like I'm even close to half a billion :? :wink:
On the other hand, I know by experience how time-consuming it can be to moderate such a feature: I have custom titles disabled on the forums I administrate because of that... and you can imagine how much pressure I get from my users.

I thought about an alternative that could enhance the current system without relying on custom titles: 2-parts titles.

Instead of having one list, you have two:
The *first list* *second list* of

the first list could be things like:
-Nothing-, United, Free, Corporate, Socialist...

and the second one:
Republic, State, States, Dictactorship, Theocracy...

This could multiply the possibilities without extra-need for moderation.

EDIT: I'll make a new post about that idea cause I think it could be easily implemented.

Ah, yes, profane names. That didn't occur to me, but that is a good point. Maybe there has to be a mod approval for the names? That would only stress them more, though. Hrm.

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I thought about an alternative that could enhance the current system without relying on custom titles: 2-parts titles.

Instead of having one list, you have two:
The *first list* *second list* of

the first list could be things like:
-Nothing-, United, Free, Corporate, Socialist...

and the second one:
Republic, State, States, Dictactorship, Theocracy...

This could multiply the possibilities without extra-need for moderation.

Now that is a good idea. Perhaps four or five name columns, all with the same things in them.

Free corporation of --
Corporation of Free Republics of --

Etc, so you could rearrange it any way you like.

#List so far, feel free to add to it. I suggested four our five columns, with all the same list in it.#

Allied States
Armed Republic
Base
Borderlands
Colony
Commonwealth
Community
Confederacy
Conglomerate
Constitutional Monarchy
Corperation
Democratic Republic
Democratic States
Dictatorship
Disputed Territories
Dominion
Emirate
Empire
Federation
Fiefdom
Free Land
Grand Duchy
Holy
Holy Empire
Holy Republic
Incorporated States
Internal
Jingoistic States
Kingdom
Most Serene Republic
Nomadic Peoples
Of
Operations
Oppressed Peoples
People's Republic
Principality
Protectorate
Queendom
Republic
Rogue Nation
Sultanate
Theocracy
United Socialist States
United States

Imnsvale, I think your solution would be far more complicated. Beside separating adjectives from nouns is good in order to actually multiply the number of possibilities rather than keeping the quite limited system that we currently have.

Complicated how? Perhaps I don't understand. Just have five duplicate lists. Please elaborate.

Complicated how? Perhaps I don't understand. Just have five duplicate lists. Please elaborate.

You would end up with very cluttered names. I strongly believe 1 or 2 adjectives plus a noun is far enough. With a unique list, you also limitate the number of possibilies.

Say you have 2 lists:
1) Free, United, Corporate
2) Republic, Dictatorship, Lands

With 3 words in each list, you end up with 9 possibilities (so with an unique list, you'd need to put the 9 possibilities, right?). Now imagine you have 20 adjectives and 10 nouns: this would make 200 possibilities. It would make for quite a long unique list, don't you think?

Perhaps a simpler alternative would be to drop the options before the name and have more space available for typing in the nation name?

Perhaps a simpler alternative would be to drop the options before the name and have more space available for typing in the nation name?

That might be simpler... until the mods have to sort out abusive names.

Or, not allow custom titles.

When will custom names be permitted for larger nations?

[violet] said to keep reminding her to do it, so I can't imagine that it's too far away.

Thank you all. :wink:

it should be only available to high population nation, but what is high? 500 mill. or 1.2 bill.?

500 million is 3 months of loyalty. Surely that's something to be rewarded?

A high pop? 2 billion is pretty high :)

2 billion is a whole year!!!

NS isn't even that old yet!

2 billion is a whole year!!!

NS isn't even that old yet!

Two billion. (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=akiria)

Two words: Pop bug

Two words: Pop bug

Actually that’s one word and one abbreviation :D

Two words: Pop bug

Actually that’s one word and one abbreviation :D

Insanely picky ;)

Two words: Pop bug

Yes, but this clearly shows Nationstates has been around that long. :P

OH just to answere part of the origanil question there was a way to get a custom title besides becoming a mod. There was some forme of hole in the code that let you do it shortly after mods were instated some way of fooling that part of the system that you were a mod. At least so I am told.

Marathon had one.

OH just to answere part of the origanil question there was a way to get a custom title besides becoming a mod. There was some forme of hole in the code that let you do it shortly after mods were instated some way of fooling that part of the system that you were a mod. At least so I am told.

Marathon had one.

Was that phpBBhacks.com?

Perhaps, I never realy dug much deaper in to it then what I posted but that was because it was said to have been patched.

I just agree it would be interesting. I'd have liked to make mine the People's Democratic Republic of Ariddia, for example...

Oh, and I disagree when you say you shouldn't be able to change. Imagine if you're a kingdom and you roleplay that the monarchy is overthrown in your nation...

So, [violet]... please be reminded! :)

You can change - the option is on your nation's setting's page. You would have to pick one of the other defaults, however.

BTW, before someone flames me for being off topic, I was just mentioning this in case any new users, who haven't noticed they have a "settings" option, are reading the thread.

Well . . . . I may as well clarify this stuff on the older custom titles, as I was a bit involved with the whole mess.

You didn't fool the system into thinking that you were a mod, the settings page just didn't verify all of the information coming into it. Now it does.

http://cif.rochester.edu/~rubing/temp/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

It was actually very easy to change titles. All I did was download the settings page and change the html so that one of the option values was the title I wanted. Now there are number values for each title, so that doesn't work anymore. :(

Still, I wonder how the mods do it...If the mod titles are hardcoded, there should be a way to use them...
(*tries 999 values*)
(Just kidding!)

Are specialized names for nations 500+ million open now?

Still, I wonder how the mods do it...If the mod titles are hardcoded, there should be a way to use them...


Game mods can edit fields. That's how they change improper flags, mottos, animals, etc.

Well . . . . I may as well clarify this stuff on the older custom titles, as I was a bit involved with the whole mess.

You didn't fool the system into thinking that you were a mod, the settings page just didn't verify all of the information coming into it. Now it does.

http://cif.rochester.edu/~rubing/temp/salusasecondus2.jpg
SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling

Well thankyou for clearing that up, as I said this was second hand or more intell. I just knew it hapend and that it no longer posable as far as most of us know :wink:

Like my new custom name?

Like my new custom name?

Did you have to kick this?

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