NationStates Jolt Archive

This thread is intended as a complement to the International Domestic Soccer NewsWires thread (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288854), in an attempt to limit the OOC chatter in that thread by providing a more appropriate venue for it. IC posts and results should, of course, remain in the newswires thread.

Information about international club competitions and how to enter can be found on NSwiki:
TakilQuip Champions’ Cup (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=TakilQuip_Champions’_Cup)
Globe Cup (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Globe_Cup)
Series B Champions’ Cup (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Series_B_Champions’_Cup)


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To kick off the discussion, I’d like to ask that Qazox and Norwellia not use the international club competition logos in their posts—they make your posts much larger than they would otherwise be, and dilute the utility of the logos in clearly identifying international club results of general interest. Simple textual headings, or at most the use of colors, would be preferable.

This is just a quick note to Daehanjeiguk and Quintessence of Dust about your telegrams! I've had a very busy weekend but will be looking at getting stuff sorted out soon if the weather isn't too good.. But thank you for your interest and expect telegrams next week.

And this is a quick note to Norwelia!

Thanks for the positive feedback on the Urban5 league, much appreciated.

Thanks for this thread and the logo advice, CH. If I can (I don't remember how editing works), I'll go back and chop that stuff out of my post.

And this is a quick note to Norwelia!

Thanks for the positive feedback on the Urban5 league, much appreciated.

You're welcome! I'm trying to figure out how to implement it in my own nation...maybe we should have an international Urban 5 competition?

I'm thinking this would be a good place for all those pesky non-IRCers *coughSarzcough* to conduct international transfers. Oui? Non?

I'm thinking this would be a good place for all those pesky non-IRCers *coughSarzcough* to conduct international transfers. Oui? Non?

Oh? I just bombard people with telegrams ^_^

Oh? I just bombard people with telegrams ^_^
Case in point :p

Oh? I just bombard people with telegrams ^_^

And I have this annoying tendency to not check telegrams very often. :p

I think Kry's idea is a solid one.

I'm thinking this would be a good place for all those pesky non-IRCers *coughSarzcough* to conduct international transfers. Oui? Non?

I'm fine with the idea, although that seems IC to me. I don't know if that matters to anyone.

I'm fine with the idea, although that seems IC to me. I don't know if that matters to anyone.

It just keeps the other thread limited to league summaries and such, and not banter between nations. Arranging transfers is nice, because we can list people here instead of cluttering the other thread, or report errors in tournament posts. (Not just calling you out on that one, I've done it, too.)

I'm thinking this would be a good place for all those pesky non-IRCers *coughSarzcough* to conduct international transfers. Oui? Non?


We will make the first such announcement then!

Jeremy McAllister wishes to retire from Sporting Lakeport after this season, but would like to remain on in a coaching/assistant coaching position. He also would like to know if the team was interested in signing his son for the next season.

Well, since Tenderville United have Brian Carson already, I can't think of a reason why they can't include McAllister in their staff as well, as the two seem to know and like each other.

And yeah, they could sign McAllister Junior as well, but depending on his age, they'll loan him to a satellite club in the Nethertopian WendellCorp Division or place him in a youth team.

We will make the first such announcement then!

Jeremy McAllister wishes to retire from Sporting Lakeport after this season, but would like to remain on in a coaching/assistant coaching position. He also would like to know if the team was interested in signing his son for the next season.

Well, since Tenderville United have Brian Carson already, I can't think of a reason why they can't include McAllister in their staff as well, as the two seem to know and like each other.

And yeah, they could sign McAllister Junior as well, but depending on his age, they'll loan him to a satellite club in the Nethertopian WendellCorp Division or place him in a youth team.

Mmm, sounds like we already gots ourselves a bidding war! And if the D-League is the MLS of NationStates, then Junior would be my Freddy Adu ^_^

Having tasted international play for the first time in a long time, Lakeport will throw their hat into the McAllister ring.

Question for New Manhatten.

How often do run the TakilQuip Cup and like competitions? Are they linked, in terms of timing, to the NS World Cup?

Question for New Manhatten.

How often do run the TakilQuip Cup and like competitions? Are they linked, in terms of timing, to the NS World Cup?
They run twice per World Cup—once during the second half of qualifying, and once after the final.

They run twice per World Cup—once during the second half of qualifying, and once after the final.

Thanks.

Well, since Tenderville United have Brian Carson already, I can't think of a reason why they can't include McAllister in their staff as well, as the two seem to know and like each other.

And yeah, they could sign McAllister Junior as well, but depending on his age, they'll loan him to a satellite club in the Nethertopian WendellCorp Division or place him in a youth team.

Though there is some appeal about having little J-Mac play in the "Rushmore" league, it is logical that he would follow his father's footsteps if they offered. Sporting Lakeport has heavy Newmanistanian influence. We do everything but make them where sky blue and white uniforms. Tenderville also seems pretty loaded up front already, perhaps they'd have more interest in Brittany Prescott for the midfield?


Mmm, sounds like we already gots ourselves a bidding war! And if the D-League is the MLS of NationStates, then Junior would be my Freddy Adu ^_^

Having tasted international play for the first time in a long time, Lakeport will throw their hat into the McAllister ring.

If there are positions available for both, both wish to sign. Junior should be cap-friendly with an entry level contract. And if the team wanted to, perhaps, some of Junior's actually money could be diverted through his fathers assistant coaching contract!


On an unrelated note.... now that I am beginning to settle in with my new position at work in the real world and not quite as stressed for time as I thought it would make me (this is a good thing), I may be bringing back the NPL to the international level again.

If there are positions available for both, both wish to sign. Junior should be cap-friendly with an entry level contract. And if the team wanted to, perhaps, some of Junior's actually money could be diverted through his fathers assistant coaching contract!

The boy's not old enough to drink, drive, or join the team for after-parties, so it only makes sense that dear ol' dad would handle most of the finances, as well! Lakeport would love to have them in any capacity.

On an unrelated note.... now that I am beginning to settle in with my new position at work in the real world and not quite as stressed for time as I thought it would make me (this is a good thing), I may be bringing back the NPL to the international level again.

Seems like the Empress can't keep 'em down ^_^

They run twice per World Cup—once during the second half of qualifying, and once after the final.

Can we have this sort of thing edited into the OP along with how many clubs a new nation can get into each cup? It can be a devil to find the qualification information for these international cups, and wading through the IDSN thread to find out is a mammoth task.

Though there is some appeal about having little J-Mac play in the "Rushmore" league, it is logical that he would follow his father's footsteps if they offered. Sporting Lakeport has heavy Newmanistanian influence. We do everything but make them where sky blue and white uniforms. Tenderville also seems pretty loaded up front already, perhaps they'd have more interest in Brittany Prescott for the midfield?

Well, with Ferguson up front turning 41 (!) and Carlson probably hitting the transfer list (yet to post here) because of his amazingly bad attitude I think there's plenty of attacking space. But it figures that the J-Mac senior and junior hit the Lakeport road and United's midfield being utter crap, Tenderville would be very honoured to sign young Prescott.

Final call for entrants for the 13th SportSat International University Challenge Championship; signups will close April 15 at 1500 UTC.

Well, with Ferguson up front turning 41 (!)

Yeah she should probably retire. She's not coming back for the World Cup. Let me know if you want anyone else.

For the domestic leagues, do people just make up the seasons' results or do they use a scorinator?

For the domestic leagues, do people just make up the seasons' results or do they use a scorinator?
Most people use a scorinator. It's pretty simple with NSFS, for example.

I've got a question that I think was touched on earlier but I didn't really follow. Do players age in their own country's time or in the country they play in?

I've got a question that I think was touched on earlier but I didn't really follow. Do players age in their own country's time or in the country they play in?

The simple answer is: it depends.

The complex one with examples is:

If your own domestic league/world cup timeline runs on a different timeline to that of where your player is, then that's where things get complicated. I had Simeone Di Bradini playing and coaching (at the 'end' of his career in the Starblaydi timeline of 4 years per cup) in Vilita, where they have just 1 or 2 years per cup. By my timeline, he was still making regular appearances for his club at the age of forty-five, where by Vilita's timeline he was still in his mid thirties.

Same thing with Leandro Perheira playing in Valanora, when I'd considered him long retired, but ESF still had him as young enough for 'one more season'.

If your player has been signed for a certain number of seasons, your side of things can have elapsed while he's still mid-contract in the other nation, which is where international transfers can get very complicated.

Basically, figure it out with whoever you're sending players off to :D

Yeah she should probably retire. She's not coming back for the World Cup. Let me know if you want anyone else.

Only if the club is able to sign someone as good as her. Also, Tenderville would love to keep her involved in the club in the technical staff, she's bright enough to turn into a proper manager (yeah, I really need a new assistant for Brian Carson, The old assistant is going for the assistant-manager position at the Falcons).

Most people use a scorinator. It's pretty simple with NSFS, for example.Thank you. I've just downloaded NSFS (via the link in Dancougar's sig), and once I've studied it for a little while -- and have either found or re-created my complete list of 'League' teams in BA -- you should see this nation's results added to the IC thread as well...

As I rebuild my rosters for the return of the NPL, I show the following players still playing in Newmanistan from foreign countries. If you have a player on this list that you do not still have playing in Newmanistan, please let me know. I would like to keep them if I could!

Cassadaigua:
Kirsten Logan (Olympia)
Jessica Keeley (Southport)
Stacie Kerrigan (Springfield)
Meghan Burns (South Charlotte)

Candelaria And Marquez:
Marco Antonio Ortiz (Loudon)
Francesco Avola (Loudon)
Cameron Jones (Loudon)

Dancougar:
Casey Berber (Centralia)

Myedvedeya:
Boris Bykovsky (Pocono City)
Konstantin Petrovsky (Pocono City)
Vadim Mikhaiylichenko (Dover City)
Jov Mikhaiylichenko (Dover City)
Nikolai Dolohov (Tundra Falls)
Giovanni D'Ancona (Daytopia)
Sergey Rostov (Daytopia)

Secristan:
Eric Fraser (Springfield)
Brian Carver (Strausser)
Andrew Bianchetti (Ashland)

Blouman Empire:
Andrew Pollard (Olympia)
Christopher Moreton (Stroudsbourg)

Green Wombat:
Lawrence Dvorak (Loudon)

Koseli Cumheriyetler:
Nus Kusoglu (Stroudsbourg)

Also, if anyone feels that they should have a player in Newmanistan that I omitted, it may be because I felt that they would have retired at this point, or I had thought you had said something about them leaving the NPL when I announced the league was dropping funding. Please let me know if you wish for such player to remain in the Empire.

Candelaria And Marquez:
Marco Antonio Ortiz (Loudon)
Francesco Avola (Loudon)
Cameron Jones (Loudon)

Also, if anyone feels that they should have a player in Newmanistan that I omitted, it may be because I felt that they would have retired at this point, or I had thought you had said something about them leaving the NPL when I announced the league was dropping funding. Please let me know if you wish for such player to remain in the Empire.

Reuben Blakeman, just turned 29, was still at Olympia last time I checked, unless something ghastly's happened to the poor chap.

I've got a question that I think was touched on earlier but I didn't really follow. Do players age in their own country's time or in the country they play in?

My personal view is that people in this particular corner of the multiverse spend their lives encased in a skin-tight bubble of Time brought from the country of their birth. As a result, Starblaydi players in the Candelarias tend to have a career only half as long as their locally raised-peers, while Kelssekkian left-back Francois St. Louis will still be captaining Albrecht FC when the rest of his current team-mates are providing nourishment for worms.

This method makes no attempt to explain why, por exarmpluh, Caires Sports' Robbie Sinjinir appears to have got progressively younger since taking on Yaforite nationality. But it's probably just one of them things.

Yeah she should probably retire. She's not coming back for the World Cup. Let me know if you want anyone else.

If that applies to me as well, then Albrecht Turkish would be very keen on Courtney Poole, and would rather like to sign Brittany Paxson while she's still young enough to count as an Academy player, though she wouldn't be guaranteed first-team football straight off.

Oh, and Albrecht Independent FC would bite your arm off for Katie Cincoski.

That is all.

I'm thinking this would be a good place for all those pesky non-IRCers *coughSarzcough* to conduct international transfers. Oui? Non?

Doesn't all this public transfer discussion constitute tapping-up? If it happens to any Candelariasian player, we will be complaining to a higher authority with the full force of our impotent and hypocritical rage.

Now that's satire...

If that applies to me as well, then Albrecht Turkish would be very keen on Courtney Poole, and would rather like to sign Brittany Paxson while she's still young enough to count as an Academy player, though she wouldn't be guaranteed first-team football straight off.

Oh, and Albrecht Independent FC would bite your arm off for Katie Cincoski.

That is all.Am I right in presuming that none of your teams would be interested in trying to obtain any players from over here?
^_^

Dancougar:
Casey Berber (Centralia)

Casey is quite happy to finish his career in Rocketland.

Am I right in presuming that none of your teams would be interested in trying to obtain any players from over here?
^_^

Oh, please drop some bears over there. I want to see Morton cry :D

Am I right in presuming that none of your teams would be interested in trying to obtain any players from over here?
^_^

Y’see, there you go again with your blatant xenophobia towards one of the most open and tolerant peoples you could hope to meet! How many Muslims have scored for your lot in World Cup finals, eh? Tch…

As it happens, Cathedral City would be most interested in luring Ilga NorthWalker away from Mikitivity, and Candelaria-Allemali and Allemali University would work together to give Marra Riverfare an enlightening stay in our shores.

Actually, they’d go for Marra-Urra o Redwood as well, as long as her contract included some very specific discussion of XXXXL dufflecoats and the latest line in feminine beauty products.

Public transfers? I will have no such thing! It's a blatant attempt for you people to get a hand in on my Vephrese monopoly, I know it! Those poor bastards are mine to exploit, keep away!

My personal view is that people in this particular corner of the multiverse spend their lives encased in a skin-tight bubble of Time brought from the country of their birth. As a result, Starblaydi players in the Candelarias tend to have a career only half as long as their locally raised-peers, while Kelssekkian left-back Francois St. Louis will still be captaining Albrecht FC when the rest of his current team-mates are providing nourishment for worms.

This method makes no attempt to explain why, por exarmpluh, Caires Sports' Robbie Sinjinir appears to have got progressively younger since taking on Yaforite nationality. But it's probably just one of them things.


The simple answer is: it depends.

The complex one with examples is:

If your own domestic league/world cup timeline runs on a different timeline to that of where your player is, then that's where things get complicated. I had Simeone Di Bradini playing and coaching (at the 'end' of his career in the Starblaydi timeline of 4 years per cup) in Vilita, where they have just 1 or 2 years per cup. By my timeline, he was still making regular appearances for his club at the age of forty-five, where by Vilita's timeline he was still in his mid thirties.

Same thing with Leandro Perheira playing in Valanora, when I'd considered him long retired, but ESF still had him as young enough for 'one more season'.

If your player has been signed for a certain number of seasons, your side of things can have elapsed while he's still mid-contract in the other nation, which is where international transfers can get very complicated.

Basically, figure it out with whoever you're sending players off to :D

How confusing, heh. Can I just be lazy and let them age at Sandrian time, and not really worry about what 'age' they are in the country they play club football in? That sure would be easier..

Secondly, I would like to confirm that I'm not too far away from getting a league sorted out. As such, I would again like to extent my interest in getting Sandrian players outta here.. Please TG me if you have a spot somewhere for a player or two. Similarly, Peisandros clubs are keen for a few foreign players, so, TG me on that one too!

Secondly, I would like to confirm that I'm not too far away from getting a league sorted out. As such, I would again like to extent my interest in getting Sandrian players outta here.. Please TG me if you have a spot somewhere for a player or two. Similarly, Peisandros clubs are keen for a few foreign players, so, TG me on that one too!
You still have my TG, right?

You still have my TG, right?

Check your inbox :)

I decided not to give my players in the Urban5 an age (or a gender for that matter...).

I figured that way if someone else fancies nipping a player or two, they can allow them to age at their own rate. General rule of thumb is each player is between 17-25ish though.

The Taeshani Soccer League would like to announce their official intent for foreign talent. Many teams would like players. If you have players a preffered team, and player name would be good enough. You can find the team list on Wikiastates.

The Taeshani Soccer League would like to announce their official intent for foreign talent. Many teams would like players. If you have players a preffered team, and player name would be good enough. You can find the team list on Wikiastates.

Could you get a link for that? I can't seem to find it! Would definitely have a keen player or two though.

I'd also like to take this chance to state that there would no doubt be a few players in the Urban5 league looking to move on to bigger and better things. Hit me up a TM if there's a player you're interested in taking off my hands, and I'll supply a short background on them for your viewing pleasure (that is as long as you only ask for 1 or 2. I'm too lazy to do them for all the players).

To Peisandros, of course:

Would you sell players to Cafundéu, Peisandros? Sent you a The Scout TG last cup and, as I got no answer, assumed you weren't interested, so didn't send a TG this cup. But, as you seem to be willing to send players to Taeshan, I guess you're interested.

So, if you're interested in negotiating with the Cafundelense league, please let me know. The CCFM is doing some interesting deals lately...

(aah, the thread has exploded! :p )

Can we have this sort of thing edited into the OP along with how many clubs a new nation can get into each cup? It can be a devil to find the qualification information for these international cups, and wading through the IDSN thread to find out is a mammoth task.
This information is given on the competitions’ NSwiki articles, particularly the “Entry” section—I’ll add the relevant links to the OP. If you think the information can be better presented, you know what to do ;)

“How many clubs a new nation can get into each cup” is something that depends on the total number of entries—everyone’s supposed to act as if there’s enough space for their four teams, and then teams are thrown out as necessary. This is also explained in the TQCC article—can it be made more clear? (It isn’t in the SBCC article yet, since space hadn’t been an issue in that competition until recently.)

A link to the sigh as a whole http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Main_Page
Highlight it of course and to the exact page
http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/The_Taeshan_Soccer_Federation_Soccer_League

Anyone interested in signing some Norwellian players?

Our nation's best and brightest. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14693076&postcount=25)

I'm not particularly interested in signing foreign nationals right now unless there's a really compelling RP reason, because our sports teams essentially stay afloat by funneling welfare money from the government to their players and employees, so even the greatest Norwellian team couldn't afford a famous furriner in a million years. And due to the culture here, they wouldn't want to if they could--it would just alienate the other players and fans. The rich foreigner would get piss in his soup at every restaurant he ate at. So if one of your players wants to play in Norwellia, it'll be because s/he's a diehard socialist/collectivist and really wants to take part in the cooperative model for political reasons. Or s/he wants to dedicate his/her life to charity or something. Or some bizarre RP situation I can't even think up.

You can find the team list on Wikiastates.

Thanks for giving the link. I'll check it out and see if I can't send some players.

I'd also like to take this chance to state that there would no doubt be a few players in the Urban5 league looking to move on to bigger and better things. Hit me up a TM if there's a player you're interested in taking off my hands, and I'll supply a short background on them for your viewing pleasure (that is as long as you only ask for 1 or 2. I'm too lazy to do them for all the players).

We may be willing to take on some players who prefer a more peaceful (if radical) political situation. Norwellian citizens are universally dirt-poor with only the tiniest bit of upward mobility, but it's impossible to go hungry, and we have small-scale riots instead of large-scale battles. It's also a welcoming social climate for immigrants, since we get a lot of immigration and tourism, and multilingualism/multiculturalism is widely celebrated. We might even have some players who yearn for the youthful freedom of Urban 5--they are anarchists, after all--and most have military training so they'd probably fit right in. If you have a couple of Rennidanians in mind who might like to breathe Norwellian air, hit me up, or I'll take a peek at your league results after I do my taxes, get caught up on my homework, get settled at work, etc., etc....


Would you sell players to Cafundéu, Peisandros? Sent you a The Scout TG last cup and, as I got no answer, assumed you weren't interested, so didn't send a TG this cup. But, as you seem to be willing to send players to Taeshan, I guess you're interested.

So, if you're interested in negotiating with the Cafundelense league, please let me know. The CCFM is doing some interesting deals lately...

I'd like to send some players over if you're interested. Check out my roster posted upthread if you like. Quick question, somewhat related: do they speak Spanish, Portuguese or both in Cafundeu? We have a lot more Spanish speakers--Spanish in Norwellia is kind of like French in Canada.

Any and all of Qazox' players from World Cup 45 who aren't currently on a team, are available for transfer.

I'd like to send some players over if you're interested. Check out my roster posted upthread if you like. Quick question, somewhat related: do they speak Spanish, Portuguese or both in Cafundeu? We have a lot more Spanish speakers--Spanish in Norwellia is kind of like French in Canada.

As the country's culture is based mostly on Brazil, the average person in Cafundéu speak only Portuguese (although most believe they can speak Spanish, they can't understand most of it, speaking a mix of Portuguese and Spanish instead, the "Portunhol").

About your players, there is no problem for them to coming. As you're a new nation in the international scene, they'd end in the weakest teams of the 1st division or as subs of intermediate teams, but they'd get transfers if your nation improves on the rankings.

To Peisandros, of course:

Would you sell players to Cafundéu, Peisandros? Sent you a The Scout TG last cup and, as I got no answer, assumed you weren't interested, so didn't send a TG this cup. But, as you seem to be willing to send players to Taeshan, I guess you're interested.

So, if you're interested in negotiating with the Cafundelense league, please let me know. The CCFM is doing some interesting deals lately...

Ahh yes, sorry. Last world cup I was very slack heh. But I'm on the ball now! Please do TG me again and I can promise a swift response.

Reuben Blakeman, just turned 29, was still at Olympia last time I checked, unless something ghastly's happened to the poor chap.


Yes he should be! Forget to add him to the list. Thanks!

Casey is quite happy to finish his career in Rocketland.

Will do. May we eventually get him in a head coaching position over here? Though not Centralia, they have possibly the league’s most prestigious domestic coach now with Carson gone.



Also, to all nations who said they were willing to have their players play abroad, we’ll likely send you some offers by the end of the week once I get the domestic players situated into domestic spots.

Will do. May we eventually get him in a head coaching position over here? Though not Centralia, they have possibly the league’s most prestigious domestic coach now with Carson gone.

If something comes up, feel free to slot him in. If nothing works out, he won't be wanting for work if he comes back home ^_^

Y’see, there you go again with your blatant xenophobia towards one of the most open and tolerant peoples you could hope to meet! How many Muslims have scored for your lot in World Cup finals, eh? Tch…
"Tch" yourself: Gloating over the fact that your team has reached (and, admittedly) won a final, whereas ours has yet to do so, isn't exactly nice...
(;))

Actually, Muslims are one religious group that we don't have any of in Bears Armed (well, unless there are a few amongst our recent Human immigrants, which -- considering the cultures that predominate in our neighbouring nations -- I rather doubt...) yet, but that isn't because we're deliberately excluding them: They simply haven't applied to immigrate, perhaps because of the well-known fact that Islam is inherently ursophobic (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/british-teacher-khartoum-jail-teddy-bear-named-muhammad)... which is clearly their fault rather than ours.
On the other paw, our current national team does contain two Christians (one each from two out of the five [or is it six?] different sects that have significant levels of representation here...), as well as followers of 'The Great Bear' (from various sects), Ursions, and at least one worshipper of 'GreatFather Sun', and the number of players from this country's other religious minorities who are in 'League' teams is also increasing as the game spreads further out beyond the Heartwoods & the south-western districts.

As it happens, Cathedral City would be most interested in luring Ilga NorthWalker away from Mikitivity, and Candelaria-Allemali and Allemali University would work together to give Marra Riverfare an enlightening stay in our shores.
As it happens Ilga is looking for a new club for which to play (given that Mikitivity has, alas, recently CTE-d...), but she's used to playing in a Human-dominated culture where the existence of Ursines is freely acknowledged and would probably find the shift over to helping conceal the fact awkward (i.e. if you do hire her then be prepared for her to simply forget about the cover-up when responding to other people's questions...); whether the same is true for Marra Riverfarer is something that I'll think about...
Actually, they’d go for Marra-Urra o Redwood as well, as long as her contract included some very specific discussion of XXXXL dufflecoats and the latest line in feminine beauty products.The words "snowball" and "Hell" spring to mind;after all, how many of your players do you think would be prepared to play in 'Bear' costumes if that was a condition of employment in Bears Armed? :p

Newmanistan and Peisandros, you may or may not have shiny new telegrams on their way to your NS inboxes.

Secristan:
Eric Fraser (Springfield)
Brian Carver (Strausser)
Andrew Bianchetti (Ashland)


Forgot that you had Carver, will have to note that.

Remember everyone that Secristani athletes come very cheaply to your nation if interested. Since in Secristan, they must pay to play for a team, they will jump at chances to get compensated instead. Due to this, there are never transfer fees for your teams.

"Tch" yourself: Gloating over the fact that your team has reached (and, admittedly) won a final, whereas ours has yet to do so, isn't exactly nice...
(;))

Actually, Muslims are one religious group that we don't have any of in Bears Armed (well, unless there are a few amongst our recent Human immigrants, which -- considering the cultures that predominate in our neighbouring nations -- I rather doubt...) yet, but that isn't because we're deliberately excluding them: They simply haven't applied to immigrate, perhaps because of the well-known fact that Islam is inherently ursophobic (http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/british-teacher-khartoum-jail-teddy-bear-named-muhammad)... which is clearly their fault rather than ours.
On the other paw, our current national team does contain two Christians (one each from two out of the five [or is it six?] different sects that have significant levels of representation here...), as well as followers of 'The Great Bear' (from various sects), Ursions, and at least one worshipper of 'GreatFather Sun', and the number of players from this country's other religious minorities who are in 'League' teams is also increasing as the game spreads further out beyond the Heartwoods & the south-western districts.

*removes tongue cautiously from cheek, backs away slowly without making direct eye contact*

As it happens Ilga is looking for a new club for which to play (given that Mikitivity has, alas, recently CTE-d...), but she's used to playing in a Human-dominated culture where the existence of Ursines is freely acknowledged and would probably find the shift over to helping conceal the fact awkward (i.e. if you do hire her then be prepared for her to simply forget about the cover-up when responding to other people's questions...); whether the same is true for Marra Riverfarer is something that I'll think about...

In public at least, the clever tactic of not letting them do interviews would be employed (always thinking, our secret services). The offers still stand, in any case...

The words "snowball" and "Hell" spring to mind;after all, how many of your players do you think would be prepared to play in 'Bear' costumes if that was a condition of employment in Bears Armed? :p

Bear with me a tick...

...

About sixty-eight, depending on the proposed weekly wage.

If that applies to me as well, then Albrecht Turkish would be very keen on Courtney Poole, and would rather like to sign Brittany Paxson while she's still young enough to count as an Academy player, though she wouldn't be guaranteed first-team football straight off.

Oh, and Albrecht Independent FC would bite your arm off for Katie Cincoski.

That is all.


The players, especially Courtney Poole, are very excited about these offers and will sign.

And with the conclusion of the second Urban5 league, I'd suggest if you're looking for players from Rennidan, just take a peak at the rosters of the teams in the finals. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14706110&postcount=2400)

They'd all be willing to go quite cheaply too, as they all play for their love of the sport, rather than the fat pay cheques dangled in front of them.

QCAA Champions Cup/Globe Cup review

Champions Cup


1st prelim rd: UQazox def. Shilla 3-2 aggregate
2nd prelim rd: Leyton United def. UQazox 5-4 aggregate
2nd prelim rd: Shimyang def. Saint Nash State 4-3 aggregate


Globe Cup


The Eliminatory Stage: New Tabari Riders def. Saint Nash State 5-3 aggregate
The Eliminatory Stage: Charles Feld University def. Estudiantes de Íguen 4-3 aggregate
The Eliminatory Stage: Edda EB Ulfborg def. UQazox 0-0 aggregate; 0-0 extra time; (3-0 penalties)
The Qualifying Stage: Visby Nestle Quarcoo def. Charles Feld University 6-4 aggregate

The players, especially Courtney Poole, are very excited about these offers and will sign.

Supoib.


Now, Krytenia*, since it was you who started this whole sorry mess and need to be punished; Albrecht FC have been sniffing around Toivonen's most recent squad, and are interested in bringing in a new centre-half. Bart Graves obviously had relative youth on his side, but Nick Simpson would clearly bring plenty of big-match experience.

Well, they like Sampson, and they like Graves. But which is better? There's only one way to find out...

Ask Krytenia which player he'd rather sell to the Champions' Cup holders, if any!


*Because bolding people's names in order to attract their attention is the new black, apparently.

Supoib.


Now, Krytenia*, since it was you who started this whole sorry mess and need to be punished; Albrecht FC have been sniffing around Toivonen's most recent squad, and are interested in bringing in a new centre-half. Bart Graves obviously had relative youth on his side, but Nick Simpson would clearly bring plenty of big-match experience.

Well, they like Sampson, and they like Graves. But which is better? There's only one way to find out...

Ask Krytenia which player he'd rather sell to the Champions' Cup holders, if any!


*Because bolding people's names in order to attract their attention is the new black, apparently.
Both?

EDIT>>> And an add way over there!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Just ignore it...

OOOO... another discussion thread. I think I'll use this one...

The four TQCC Teams will be
Atlantea Hurricanes
Wiechester FC
AC Quarant Xa'virt
Bayern Phoenix

The Two Globe
Real Chinchinhua
X Island Marauders

Samseong
Loudon Lancers
Loachen Yellow Jackets
Yaton FC
Gieron FC

I find it particularly hard to follow your league if you never release the full list of teams and their performance after each season. Unless those are the only teams in the league, which begs some other questions to ask. Could you at least offer us the courtesy of taking a look at the league tables, because some of us (i.e. me) might be interested in other teams in the league.

Also, on an unrelated note, I'm asking here since it's probably faster than sending a TG: Is that roster for Pyeongyang Gukjei an updated roster or the one that you've been carrying, because as far as I am aware, it's not the same one as what I have. Once I get this cleared, I can post the full list of Taeshani players in the IFL.

@ Norwellia:

(following C&M's advice)

Should I assume that everyone except Vermeeren and Frost are available?

If I have the time, I can try seeing which teams need some players (Sanghae comes to mind...), but since it is the mid-season, the rules that I made say that I can only do loans at this time. At the end of the season, we can discuss a full transfer. This is primarily because of the way that I've got the rosters set up, so I hope that you don't mind.

EDIT: And a quick FYI, Koreans aren't normally 6 feet tall...

I've used TGs in the past to arrange my transfers, but given everyone has rushed to use this I suppose I'll throw myself onto the bandwagon (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14683430&postcount=2373); the Not-Really-Very-Premier League would be more suitable for younger players, those unable to get into the 1st XI at major clubs, and those willing to accept smaller salaries than in prestigious leagues, but anyone's welcome to contact me, and likewise yadda yadda yah.

Additionally, our players would be interested in playing abroad, particularly those leaving clubs that were relegated this season (such as midfielder Masami Tamagotchi and striker Zack Perz).

Should I assume that everyone except Vermeeren and Frost are available?


Not anymore. Lanja and Ikaru have informally agreed to terms with Cafundense clubs and can be assumed to be unavailable, barring some exceptionally bizarre happenings in the next few days. 백일일 has also expressed interest in playing in the Landau Institute league, although this is much less concrete.

If I have the time, I can try seeing which teams need some players (Sanghae comes to mind...), but since it is the mid-season, the rules that I made say that I can only do loans at this time. At the end of the season, we can discuss a full transfer. This is primarily because of the way that I've got the rosters set up, so I hope that you don't mind.

I'm not picky. Thanks for your interest.

And a quick FYI, Koreans aren't normally 6 feet tall...

If you think I don't know any Koreans, you clearly haven't been to a University of California campus lately. ;) Anyway, Americans aren't normally 7 feet tall, despite what you might think from our basketball NT roster.

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As I hinted into the charity cup thread, I'm looking to start doing a Somewhereistonian league. How do people scorinate their leagues? or do you just pick which teams you want, or do people do both?

Also, I am willing to let players go overseas, ask if you want any of the players from the charity cup squad, or from the full squad (which will be posted soon). Other players will me made up once I get my league started.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14696289&postcount=35

EDIT: Team roster for BoF 33 --> http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14710478&postcount=5

http://nswiki.net/index.php?title=NSFootySim

Hi, I was wondering how I go about entering a league from Queer Poco el Mono Ara into the discussion? We are new to Nation States... and the forums and can't seem to find a suitable beginning so figured asking how we go about joining in seemed the easiest course of action....

Both?

Nah. Pesky foreigner quotas an’ all that. Otherwise I wouldn’t’ve gone through the whole rigmarole of that slightly tortuous burp reference, would I? ;)

(That said, they’d really very happily give the nice and youthful Kiefer Lloyd a go as well, if Ellisham were willing to sell…)

As I hinted into the charity cup thread, I'm looking to start doing a Somewhereistonian league. How do people scorinate their leagues?

Since that NSwiki page above hasn’t been updated for a bit, you’d be better off following the link on Veph’s sig (or Dancougar’s if you fancy the version with gridiron and rugby thrown in).

Only if the club is able to sign someone as good as her. Also, Tenderville would love to keep her involved in the club in the technical staff, she's bright enough to turn into a proper manager (yeah, I really need a new assistant for Brian Carson, The old assistant is going for the assistant-manager position at the Falcons).

Courtney is interested, but is not going to commit. She's curious to see if there are head coaching jobs out there first.

Hi, I was wondering how I go about entering a league from Queer Poco el Mono Ara into the discussion? We are new to Nation States... and the forums and can't seem to find a suitable beginning so figured asking how we go about joining in seemed the easiest course of action....

Anyone can post the final results (or weekly results, if you’re really weird) from their domestic league on the main IDSNW thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=288854) in just about whatever form you choose - have a good look around that thread for ideas about how to present your own competition, as well as at other people's own first posts.

The easiest way to sim a league season is to download the aforementioned NSFootySim – the readmes are fairly self-explanatory, but feel free to ask questions here if you get thoroughly stuck. The league table spewed out at the end can be easily copypasted into a post (with handy [CODE] & [(forward-slash)CODE] thingies around it for formatting’s sake).

If you so wish, the top teams from your top two divisions (assuming there is a second division, obviously) can be entered into international tournaments as per here (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Tqcc#Entry). TQCCs tend to be held roughly every month or so.

Ultimately however, club football on NS is really a sideshow to the main event; the World Cup and its associated tournaments. If you’re quick (and interested, obviously) you might still be able to squeeze into the next Baptism of Fire tournament for new nations, by signing up for the BoF and World Cup 46 qualifying here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=586940). A successful campaign may well see representatives from major world leagues come sniffing around your national team’s players, with deals frequently involving other players going in the opposite direction; furthering your league’s integration into the global community. There’s plenty more about the World Cup available here (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=World_Cup) and elsewhere, but don’t worry about looking daft if you need to ask further questions.

Hi, thanks for the help. Hopefully by mid-week I can have developed some back story etc. to build my own league for Queer Poco el Mono Ara.

With that being said, is anyone free to post on the NSWiki about their domestic league?

In public at least, the clever tactic of not letting them do interviews would be employed (always thinking, our secret services). The offers still stand, in any case...Hokay. TG me with any other details that you have, such as the potential salaries (& what these mean in terms of the local cost-of-living...) and lengths of contract on offer, and I'll let you know whether they accept.

Bear with me a tick...
...

About sixty-eight, depending on the proposed weekly wage.
Good grief! Well, fortunately for the dignity of any of them who do come here, that was only a rhetorical question and the costume (which would probably hinder their playing abilities, anyway) isn't a legal requirement.
Hr'rmm, some clubs (especially those based in the south-west, where there aren't many Harr'aynau) might be interested in hiring a few outsiders, but salaries in professional football here are still fairly low by some countries' standards: The absolute best that's likely to be offered (and that would only be for players of proven ability) is around 512 thalers per week... The basic cost-of-living is pretty low, but most "modern" technology is imported at 'outside' prices... Is anybody still interested?

The following nations have received a TG from us regarding transfers:

Cafundeu, Rennidan, Dancougar, Peisandros, Secristan, Quintessence of Dust, Cassadaigua, and Sarzonia.

I think that's it!

And Nethertopia, but he answered already ;)

Nah. Pesky foreigner quotas an’ all that. Otherwise I wouldn’t’ve gone through the whole rigmarole of that slightly tortuous burp reference, would I? ;)
OK, let's go for Graves then.

And now, it's time for Transfer Request Reply of the Weeeeeek!
No chance.
Transfer Request Reply of the Weeeeeek!

Oh yeah Dae theres more teams of course i posted a link earlier to the page of wikistates, and thats not the whole roster after i put those names up i let it over so anyone could send teams mostly of course if you put players in. And that is true that all those listed players are members of the team. So yeah that was just to bring it up for a possible later fixing og the team so it didnt get lost deep somewhere.

With that being said, is anyone free to post on the NSWiki about their domestic league?Yes! You can add your league to this template here (http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Template:First_Division_Soccer_Leagues) or just start writing an article.

Someday I have to dig out this half-finished wiki article I have lying around but I get the feeling today is not that day.

Hi, thanks for the help. Hopefully by mid-week I can have developed some back story etc. to build my own league for Queer Poco el Mono Ara.

With that being said, is anyone free to post on the NSWiki about their domestic league?

Also, I wouldn't call a wiki article the biggest priority. What you really should find out is how many divisions you'll host, how many teams per division, naming clubs (particularly important, you don't want to spend the rest of your NS live with something like Never give up, Always keep the ball forward & the Peregrines Peregrinus City Sports and Soccer Combination (NGUAKTBF&TPPCSASC (NAPPC) ). It is not good for your sanity.) ect. At least this in my experience.

Hi, thanks for the help. Hopefully by mid-week I can have developed some back story etc. to build my own league for Queer Poco el Mono Ara.


Welcome to the NS sports community! Feel free to build a league before you have your backstory and roleplay ideas all sorted out--I still don't have it down completely, and I have a league in every sport from here to down under. This is just my personal philosophy, but to me, RP (roleplaying)--the backstory, in-character development, politics, etc.--is an ongoing process that simply never stops until you decide you don't want to do it anymore. So feel free to come up with a bunch of team names by any means you find satisfactory and then figure out the rest through a combination of discussion here and on #nssport, issues pages on the main NationStates site, your own political thinking and reading, or whatever you want! Or do it the other way around--it's all about having fun.

And I would like to second C&M in saying that you should feel free to ask about anything--we've all been newbies before, and some of us still are ;)

#nssport on Espernet (I hope I got that right) is a great place to absorb NS sports knowledge and be a greater part of the community. I'm not there anymore myself, but I'm usually on the same IRC network as Norwellia if you have any questions you want to ask me privately. Not that I'm some expert or anything, but I get a lot of practice at this whole being-new thing :D

With that being said, is anyone free to post on the NSWiki about their domestic league?

Absolutely!

Hey again, thanks alot for all the great help, you guys have been superb (I wrote great again and having it twice in the same sentence aggrovated me)

I'm really looking forward to getting involved in the community and doing a little RP. I really enjoy this kind of thing and used to fill memory cards for the PS2 with created teams for Pro Evo and fictional leagues.

I feel you on that, QPMA. I used to fill one notebook after another with fictional leagues for all kinds of sports I made up and scored with coin flips or dice rolls.

Haha, I feel liked I've found kindred spirits...

Greetings folks. If i've done my research right (*chuckle*) I think i'm right in saying that the next bout of international club competitions is in the second half of world cup qualifiers. Which i'm assuming won't be for a little while yet.

But is there a deadline for signing up clubs?

Greetings folks. If i've done my research right (*chuckle*) I think i'm right in saying that the next bout of international club competitions is in the second half of world cup qualifiers. Which i'm assuming won't be for a little while yet.

But is there a deadline for signing up clubs?

There is, usually a few days before the tournament itself. It will be advertised in the NewsWires thread a further few days in advance though.

Hope this helps!

I'd say that helps!

Thanks.

No worries.

Telegrams have been sent to Qazox and Daehanjeiguk. We have not yet heard from Peisandros and Sarzonia, and if no response within the next 48 hours, the offers will be withdrawn and the teams will look elsewhere!

Newmanistan, replied! Sorry about delay.

(The nations whose teams are still awaiting details of Ursine players whom they could hire should receive those details fairly soon after mid-day tomorrow [GMT].)

Does anybody have any teams that are still looking for foreign players and that might possibly be interested in (& allowed to hire) some Bears?
Newmanistan, I noticed that your high-ranking teams include one that needs a better goalie and another that could do with more defenders: how about those?

Metalurgs from Somewhereistonia may be interested in hiring some bear defenders. They might not concede so many then. Many of my national team players are open to loan/sale to go overseas.

Metalurgs from Somewhereistonia may be interested in hiring some bear defenders. They might not concede so many then.Hokay, I'll send you the details of two or three possibilities (from good teams, although probably not in our 'national' team yet) tomorrow.

hdj

Does anybody have any teams that are still looking for foreign players and that might possibly be interested in (& allowed to hire) some Bears?

Snowspire, who will be in the Sorthern First Division next season having been promoted from the Second last season could probably do with some players who don't look to leave after a few months because of the cold. Snowspire also probably have some players to offload who can't cope with said cold.

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu303/Norwellia/NWFA-1.png

The Norwellian World Football Association is proud to announce its first overseas transfers.

L/CD Hydoc Pedlar
Age: 26
International career: 4 caps, 1 GF
Former club: Merseault Strangers (NOR)
New club: Therpian (Peisandros)

CF Natalia Richter
Age: 22
International career: 9 caps, 2 GF
Former Club: Cataluña Heroica (NOR)
New club: Thessaly F.C. (Peisandros)

GK Syku Lanja
Age: 36
International career: 10 caps, 25 GA
Former club: Cataluña Heroica (NOR)
New club: Khalmar-Tijhus (Cafundéu)

AM Sala Ikaru
Age: 24
International career: 13 caps, 4 GF
Former club: Winston (NOR)
New club: Internacional de Penderia (Cafundéu)

CM Demelza Venton
Age: 19
Former club: Merseault Strangers (NOR)
New club: New Cleethorpes Atheltic (Quintessence of Dust)

As ours is a developing league, we encourage all of our internationals to seek development opportunities in more well-established leagues abroad. All transfers must be agreed to by the player, the club and the association, so international clubs hoping to snag more Norwellian talent would do well to seek our positive recommendation to the other two domestic parties involved. (OOC: Telegram.) In practice, Norwellians are not picky about salaries as long as they can maintain the lifestyle they're used to (three filling meals a day, a leaky roof over their head, and comprehensive medical, dental and vision care) or better, and Norwellian clubs rarely ask for substantial transfer fees as most of it would be eaten up by the government if they did. So, please send in your offers!

Telegrams have been sent to Qazox and Daehanjeiguk. We have not yet heard from Peisandros and Sarzonia, and if no response within the next 48 hours, the offers will be withdrawn and the teams will look elsewhere!


OOC: Sorry about that ... I have ZERO inspiration when it comes to responding to TGs requesting player transfers. In all honesty, I'm starting to run low of inspiration in general.

Pretty much, unless an offer's really horrible, I'll accept it.

A quick notice regarding the Peisandros Football Premier League.. It definitely is happening I've just been caught up horribly with Uni. Will try and get the first season up before this WC. Within the week I'll have a summary post of the transfers.

The following players from Bears Armed, all of whom are female, have signed contracts with foreign clubs _


Ulga WestWalker (a member of the [humanoid] Harr’aynau people), a midfielder/winger, was the first of these: She moved from ‘LakePort Lionesses’ to Dancougar’s ‘Yuki City Athletic’ in the season following WC45, which was about one year -- as far as Bears Armed is concerned -- before any of the other transfers that are listed here. She has been a fairly regular starter for our national team ever since BoF31.

The other two Harr’aynau who have taken footballing jobs abroad so far have both gone — surprising some people — to Candelaria And Marquez: Midfielder [& occasional Fiorward] Ilga NorthWalker has moved from ‘WildFair Warriors’ to ‘Cathedral City’, and goalkeeper Marra RiverFarer from the ‘King’s University Konquerors’ to ‘Allemali University and ‘Candelaria-Allemali’. Ilga is another veteran of our ‘BoF’-winning team & both World Cup campaigns, whilst Marra was a reserve for our Under-21 team in the most recent Di Bradini Cup.

The team of ‘FC Drongosnort’ in Quintessence of Dust has signed two (Ursines), defender Lurra White from ‘WestPort Wanderers’ and midfielder Herronna o Redwood who has just graduated from National University (at Council Groves) and left its “Tigers”. Lurra was a reserve for our national team in our WC45 campaign, but Herronna has no experience at all at the international level so far (as she isn’t the ‘Herrona o Redwood’ who played in our Under-21 team during the latest Di Bradini Cup…).

Three clubs in Nethertopia have signed Ursine players _
‘FC DePardenti’ has taken on the [non-identical] twin strikers Harrla-Marrana Thunder & Marrana-Harrla Lightning, who were only playing for a semi-pro team (‘Newton Arsenal’) but had also had offers from several nearby First Division sides.
‘Stoedtcanal CU’ has hired midfielder Merwanna ar Geran, whose experience so far has been in a Junior League team called ‘Merlchester Babes’ that basically exists as a “feeder” for the First Division team ‘Merlchester Rovers’… and who was a substitute in our Under-21 team for the latest Di Bradini Cup.
And the defensive line at ‘Ashdom City’ has been strengthened by the addition of Borrinna o HighPeaks from the ‘Free City Furies’, who is a veteran of our national team from BoF31 onwards.

And two Ursine players go to Somewhereistonia, namely Grendra o Herrchaum who moves from ‘Merlchester Babes’ to ‘Metalurg’ and defender/midfielder Jerrane o Grey — who has just graduated from ‘Miervatia University’, in Mikitivity — who moves to ‘Kabano Zeppelin’. Neither of these players has had any experience at the international level yet.

Snowspire, who will be in the Sorthern First Division next season having been promoted from the Second last season could probably do with some players who don't look to leave after a few months because of the cold. Snowspire also probably have some players to offload who can't cope with said cold.

Okay, I'll sort out the details of some potential transferees once I've got the World Cup team's roster (and my entry to the latest 'WorldVision Song Contest') completed: Are there any particular positions that 'Snowspire' needs to fill?

As for transfers into Bears Armed, 'WestPort Wanderers' (which is one of the top teams in the First Division) is considering the possibility of hiring a human or two as Midfielders &/or Wingers... but these would have to be female: Are there any candidates on offer?

Final call for entrants to IUCC 14.

All entrants must be entered by way of posting in the main IDSNW thread (max. three per nation/association) by latest 1200 UTC May 9. The preliminary draw will take place at 1300 UTC. The qualifying rounds will be scorinated at 0400 UTC the next day, with the finals scorinated on Monday May 11.

http://www.thirdgeek.com/ns/logos/tqcc3/

The deadline for entries to TakilQuip Champions’ Cup 13 and Samseong Series B Champions’ Cup 10 will be 18:00 UTC on Tuesday, 2009–05–12.

Okay, I'll sort out the details of some potential transferees once I've got the World Cup team's roster (and my entry to the latest 'WorldVision Song Contest') completed: Are there any particular positions that 'Snowspire' needs to fill?

As for transfers into Bears Armed, 'WestPort Wanderers' (which is one of the top teams in the First Division) is considering the possibility of hiring a human or two as Midfielders &/or Wingers... but these would have to be female: Are there any candidates on offer?

A goalkeeper and a striker are Snowspire's main targets.

Unfortunately though they'd be unable to offer any players that meet those criteria in return as the Sorthern Football League is still a wholly male affair. Might be able to offer a couple of players from the women's Olympic team however.

Tenderville United (NTH)–Wow! Health & Fitness FC (QOD) or Loudon (NEW)


oooh... please let this happen! *prays* (Margaret, you may hate me in WC qualifying, but at least hook me up here?)
Can't imagine any more early round games in this competition that would have such a great subplot to it. (for us anyway)

A goalkeeper and a striker are Snowspire's main targets.

Unfortunately though they'd be unable to offer any players that meet those criteria in return as the Sorthern Football League is still a wholly male affair. Might be able to offer a couple of players from the women's Olympic team however.TG sent yesterday evening (GMT).

oooh... please let this happen! *prays* (Margaret, you may hate me in WC qualifying, but at least hook me up here?)
Can't imagine any more early round games in this competition that would have such a great subplot to it. (for us anyway)

Aye.

That would be very lovely indeed. Aye.

Thanks for that.

Thanks for that.

Nothing against your team it's just a match that would have a lot of backstory to it.

Pocono City and Loudon are bitter NPL rivals. (biggest rivalry in the NPL) Brian Carson coached Pocono City and was hated in Loudon. He also coached the World Cup team from 40-halfway in 45 and was still hated in Loudon (they cheered the team but not him), and called for his dismissal repeatedly from World Cup 41 on.

After Carson was fired from the national team, making the Loudon fans mock him and hate him more, he stiffed Pocono City as well, to go coach.... Tenderville United.

Should this match take place, when Tenderville went to Loudon, it would be the first time Carson has coached in Newmanistan since then. With it being in Loudon, where he's always been hated makes the story all the better.

-background story snip-

Tenderville got lucky there, didn't they? Advanced on away goals in extra time... Oh well, it proves that Carson is a good coach.