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My previous attempt to organize a sporting event went totally balls-up, but I'm as stubborn as a severely retarded mule. I also know the League World Cup is still ongoing, not to mention the WC, CoH, WCoH, and other assorted tournaments, but this doesn't require any immediate commitment, so I thought I'd put out some feelers.

Tendrils advance to ominous glockenspiel music.

1. After RLWCIII finishes, I think we should have Rugby Union World Cup XII (http://nswiki.net/index.php?title=Rugby_World_Cup) (by the way, this article needs input from people who remember the older Cups). The previous one was hosted in Septentrionia, where Kelssek beat Solenial in the final. I intend to make a bid to host, though I know several other players have rugby scorinators so there may well be competition.

Edit: 2. If there is simply not sufficient interest to sustain a World Cup, then instead perhaps instead the few nations that are interested instead could instead play a 'Six Nations' instead (or x Nations, depending on how many sign-up) instead. <-- Nevermind.

3. Separate to the above, would anyone be interested in having their club teams (not national teams) play in a transnational competition? It could either be a regular thing, such as the Super 14 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_14), or a champions' league, such as the Heineken Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heineken_Cup). I would do all the scorinating and posting of the results and excessive overusing of Jolt's formatting tags; people would simply need to enter their team details.

I realize I'm mixing two different things, but given the historically low level of interest in rugby threads, I don't think there's too much danger of this wildly spinning out of control just yet. So, if you'd be interested in competing in RWCXII, this can be considered an informal sign-up thread; if the other thing, let me know.

Garble garble jim-bob fruitpatch.

RWCXII Sign-Ups

1. Quintessence of Dust
2. Somewhereistonia
3. Peisandros
4. Kelssek
5. West Zirconia
6. Sorthern Northland
7. Norwellia
8. Candelaria And Marquez
9. Krytenia
10. Milchama
11. Lovisa
12. Taeshan

1. I'm definitely up for this, count me in.
2. If a world cup isn't possible then this would seem to work ok, but I think about 8 teams would be too much to do this easily.
3. I think I would do this, but how many teams do you think each country should send, or will that just depend on who signs up? How would people be able to rate their own teams in comparison to each other? Just thinking about how much work this might be do organise together.

Ok, cool. I'll add in a list of sign-ups and we'll take it from there.

With regard to the domestic thing, what I envisaged was the following:
- a few countries enter, and each get a quota of 1-4 teams, to yield a total of about 14 teams: the exact number would be dependent on level of interest, and could perhaps be geared to international rankings;
- instead of an 'RP bonus', each country gets a points quota to divide between their teams as they wish;
- once all the teams and ranks have been submitted, the scorination is done.

Organizationally, all that would be required from participants is that they provide their team details.

Big yes to a World Cup.
Perhaps even bigger yes to some sort of domestic comp -- but there should be RP'ing involved.

Yes indeed, I'd take part in whatever comes out of this.

Concerning the intended World Cup, count us in. I hardly RPd last time, and I may not get too much chance to do so this time either, but who knows?

I would also be in favour of a club competition. Only problem is, I don't have a scorinator myself, and so would not be able to create a league which would send teams to the club competition. Perhaps someone can help me out there?

Well, you can use my painfully simple spreadsheet based scorinator, or if anyone else who has a scorinator offers you can use theirs.

On another note, does anyone know/remember how the rankings are calculated? It should be a cinch to work them out, but the formula seems to have varied over time, and I'm not sure whether RWC9 has been included in the past.

I'd sign up for World Cup for sure, and will possibly put in a host bid.

And if I can be bothered to scorinate a domestic league then I'd definitely send some teams to a club cup.

1. I'm down!

2. I'm down!

3. I'm down!

Also, if someone could hook me up with a rugby scorinator, that'd be awesome. I know very little about the game and I'd like to learn with my own league.

A WC12 sign-up, and a formal abstention from the host vote so as not to upset QoD or Snorth :p

Also up for a club cup… particularly if anyone cares to fiddle about with NSFS to make it spurt out vaguely realistic rugby union scores à la the Gridiron edit. I’m buggered if I’m scorinating every round of league matches seperately every season. :rolleyes:

(Loving your work on the wiki page btw, Dusty ;))

Why am I using so many emoticons?

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That's a good point about NSFS; Septentrionia used a modified version of it to scorinate RWC11, so perhaps we could ask them if that would be usable for a domestic league.

I updated the sign-up list.

Consider us well and truly ruggered.

I would like to take part but I don't trust myself to RP that much so if you want to sign me up, if not that's ok too.

Yes, that's great: with a competition of this size it's really the more the merrier, so of course you'd be welcome, Milchama.

I think the best thing to do right now is concentrate on getting RWCXII underway; the club competition can be sorted out once scorination is decided on.

By the way, here are some very unofficial and crudely calculated rankings for nations that have signed up, that entered RWC11, and a couple of others for interest:
1 Kelssek 14.83
2 Solenial 12.21
3 Taeshan 9.21
4= Sorthern Northland 8.88
Lovisa 8.88
6 Candelaria And Marquez 8.17
7 Idanno 4.5
8 Starblaydia 4.45
9 West Zirconia 4
10 Milchama 3.61
11= Liventia 3
Peisandros 3
Septentrionia 3
14 Miroxia 2.63
15 The Ariddian Isles 2.46
16 Myedvedeya 2
17= An Blascaod Mór 1
Quintessence of Dust 1
19 Alversia 0.33
20 Krytenia 0.13

Also up for a club cup… particularly if anyone cares to fiddle about with NSFS to make it spurt out vaguely realistic rugby union scores à la the Gridiron edit.

Oh hai! I'm in ur thread, writin your requested programz (http://sites.google.com/site/nsdancougarfoo/files/nsfs2072.zip).

Now supports <football-code>rugbyunion</football-code> and <football-code>rugbyleague</football-code>.

well Lovisa must startas well :)

we be der if spot still open didnt look at this til recently.

Lovisa and Taeshan makes 12.

I've got eight nations expressing overt interest in a club competition:

Somewhereistonia
Peisandros
Kelssek
West Zirconia
Sorthern Northland
Norwellia
Candelaria and Marquez
Krytenia

And some others were ambiguous. Anyone interested in hosting one? I'm not at that level yet, not to mention I'll be crazy busy once spring quarter starts in two days :eek:

Just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention so we could get to work on a Super 8 thing or something.

Anyone interested in hosting one? I'm not at that level yet, not to mention I'll be crazy busy once spring quarter starts in two days :eek:

Just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention so we could get to work on a Super 8 thing or something.

I’m sure QoD will be able to bumble along adequately even without your assistance, Norwellia. ;)

Oh hai! I'm in ur thread, writin your requested programz (http://sites.google.com/site/nsdancougarfoo/files/nsfs2072.zip).

Now supports <football-code>rugbyunion</football-code> and <football-code>rugbyleague</football-code>.

Thankee for this, ‘tis most appreciated. Neutral style mods need to be upped to at least two or three, I think (for union, at any rate), but that’s no great hardship and it otherwise it seems to works a charm. Cheers! :)

I take it, by the by, that automatic bonuses for not being utterly thrashed and scoring x number of tries in a game are simply beyond NSFS’s current capabilities to implement?

Meh, I didn't think Quod wanted to do it hisself, is all. Guess I'll butt out.

Oh hai! I'm in ur thread, writin your requested programz (http://sites.google.com/site/nsdancougarfoo/files/nsfs2072.zip).

Now supports <football-code>rugbyunion</football-code> and <football-code>rugbyleague</football-code>.

Muchas gracias for that. Certainly means I can be bothered to actually scorinate a Sorthern league, so más tequila for you! :)

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm having trouble getting said scorinator to work.
Could be something to do with me being hopeless at this sort of thing - any suggestions?

We might be able to help you if you tell us exactly what happens, reprint any error messages you get, etc.

I'll add my thanks to Dancougar for that mod.

What I'd suggest is we stick a pin in the idea of a club competition for the moment, to give people time to figure out their own domestic leagues. I'd like to scorinate mine but it'll take a while to think up all the teams etc. (not that the names of the teams in my football league evidence much imagination).

In the meantime, we have 12 signups for RWCXII, and with the rugby league finished - congrats to Peisandros - we could get started on sorting out a host, perhaps?

Thanks Danny! You're truly a boon to NS sports.

Me, I've scorinated a season (maybe not the playoffs) for the National/Norwellian Rugby Union, so I'm down to hop in whenever someone decides to start the NewsWire and/or a club competition. I also downloaded some recordings of rugby games (union and league) to familiarize myself with the sport more and RP better.

I'm excited for any new tournament here, so woo freakin' hoo! :)

Me, I've scorinated a season (maybe not the playoffs) for the National/Norwellian Rugby Union, so I'm down to hop in whenever someone decides to start the NewsWire and/or a club competition.

There's this. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=576773) Although maybe a thread with an opening post more akin to those of the other domestic newswire threads would be better? There's certainly no need to post a 'template' for a league before posting it.

I take it, by the by, that automatic bonuses for not being utterly thrashed and scoring x number of tries in a game are simply beyond NSFS’s current capabilities to implement?

Not without gutting the code and passing around more domain-specific information ^_^ I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader, so I can bring the basketball scorinator up to code.

Sorthern, we need to get away from Kjo's control-freak thread. You and I both know that that's not a healthy thing to feed.

ETA: And that all participants would suffer for it if we caved to that kind of stuff, too.

Don't support whatever is advertised here.

I'll add my thanks to Dancougar for that mod.

What I'd suggest is we stick a pin in the idea of a club competition for the moment, to give people time to figure out their own domestic leagues. I'd like to scorinate mine but it'll take a while to think up all the teams etc. (not that the names of the teams in my football league evidence much imagination).

In the meantime, we have 12 signups for RWCXII, and with the rugby league finished - congrats to Peisandros - we could get started on sorting out a host, perhaps?

I second alll of this, yep.

Oh and thanks :).

Ok then! Seeing as there's been little movement on this, I suggest we move to the next phase, which is deciding on a host. So, if you would like to host, please indicate; we also need someone who's willing to abstain and act as collector of the votes (should we actually need a vote, which at the moment is looking unlikely).

I think I'll wait for the next tournament to put in a bid. I'm willing to do any vote counting or anything of that nature and abstain if need be.

Ok, well simply in the interests of keeping this thread alive, much as one pokes a corpse to give it the appearance of animation, I will register my interest in hosting RWCXII.

Format

If, as seems increasingly likely, there are no additional sign-ups, then the 12 teams would be seeded based on the pre-cup rankings and then drawn into 3 groups of 4. Teams play each other team in their group twice. The top 2 teams from each group plus the 2 best of the 3rd placed teams go onto the quarter-finals, and thereafter the tournament progresses by knockout stages.

4 points for a win, 2 points for a draw, 0 points for a loss. A team losing by 7 or fewer points earns 1 bonus point.

For tiebreakers (hereafter 'points' means points scored in a game e.g. 5 for a try, not earned for a result e.g. 4 for a win): i) points difference; ii) total points for; iii) number of wins; iv) head-to-head results; v) head-to-head points difference; vi) head-to-head total points for.

Scorinating

I am still fiddling about with NSFS, and am unsure about using it in an official, albeit woefully spartanly-attended, world tournament yet. Thus, I would suggest using a simpler, spreadsheet-based scorinator, which generates a score comprising: a random number, multiplied by a value consisting of the sum of the team's rank difference plus the RP bonus difference, multiplied by another random number. It does not break down the score by method of scoring.

The RP bonus would be cumulative, with older days decreasing in value, and under the circumstances any attempt at RPing would earn at least some bonus. The rankings would be those listed in this thread, which are based on historic participation in RWCs, decreasing over time.

Experience

None whatsoever.

Other

Please don't mock me for the general infantilism of this 'bid', it's really just in the hope that someone else who's up at 4:30am watching 30 Rock will snort into their cereal, "Pah! I can do better than that!" Anyway, I will come up with some shit about stadiums and such, but right now Tina Fey and half a bowl of Raisin Wheats demand my attention.

Starblaydia made a good Rugby scorinator you could probably use if you asked. Its a spreadsheet-based one and generates quite fair results.

Generally teams would only play each other once in the group stage in RL. I'm not sure about NS precedent.

Otherwise, theres nothing wrong with this bid really. I might try to work out some better rankings at some point soon, in a similar format to the rugby league ones (which I still have to finalise a points difference problem).

Generally teams would only play each other once in the group stage in RL. I'm not sure about NS precedent.
We did double round robin in the last RWC. I'm mainly doing it so teams that don't progress don't end up playing just 3 games.
Otherwise, theres nothing wrong with this bid really. I might try to work out some better rankings at some point soon, in a similar format to the rugby league ones (which I still have to finalise a points difference problem).
The formula I used was very simplistic, so if you come up with a better I'd be glad to implement it.

Sounds good QoD.

Somewhereistonia, on the topic of league, would be good to see some post WC rankings for that too.

I have some rankings for league, however to seperate people on same number of points, I added in points difference. For WCIII this is fine but the results for I and II have errors in them somewhere, so I will have to go through all the matches to find out whats wrong.

EDIT: Here are the new league rankings. I plan to get some union ones up in the next couple of days in the same format. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14691063&postcount=63

Here is the new rankings table. Due to the disaster that was WC9, the results from this have been omitted and replaced by results from WC8. The Rugby Union world cups are widely different so this doesn't look quite as good as the league one.


Country WC 8 points WC 10 points WC 11 points Total pts diff Total points
1 Kelssek 6 8 33 81 61.6
2 Solenial 32 8 26 187 60.8
3 Sorthern 28 20 16 142 52.8
4 Taeshan 6 20 20 -72 50.4
5 Lovisa 2 2 28 -15 47.2
6 Candelaria M 16 20 8 125 35.2
7 Idanno 19 34 30.4
8 W Zirconia 16 -9 25.6
9 Liventia 14 -40 22.4
10 Peisandros 13 32 20.8
11 Septentrionia 13 -51 20.8
12 Miroxia 2 10 -73 16.8
13 Myedvedeya 8 -66 12.8
14 Ariddia 28 116 11.2
15 Alba Scotland28 12 11.2
16 An Blascaod Mór 6 5 9.6
17 Milchama 8 6 -36 8
18 Quint. of Dust 5 -51 8
19 Starblaydia 18 96 7.2
20 Pa'atua 18 88 7.2
21 Kose & Turkomans 8 -17 6.4
22 Kalaa 16 -103 6.4
23 Alversia 3 -63 4.8
24 St Samuel 10 -23 4
25 Mallatarsland8 -36 3.2
26 Kenavt 2 -40 1.6
27 Icy cold death touch 2 -58 1.6
28 Sessenia 2 -165 0.8
Average → 14.25 9.6 14.88 0 19.6

I have changed my mind and so, I will register my interest in hosting RWC XII.

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The Somewhereistonia Sporting Association opens their official bid to host the upcoming Rugby World Cup XII. The main stadiums are all in a reasonable travelling distance of each other and the main tourism facilities making this a highly practical bid. The transport infrastructure has had an overhaul in recent years, leaving the nation perfectly able to accommodate the increased number of visitors without hassle.

Pictures of the other stadiums can be seen here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585869&highlight=rugby+world

The stadia to be used are (all will be used for group stage matches as well as those indicated):

http://i40.tinypic.com/2vds7zo.jpg
Spektakl-3-Arena (National Stadium, designed by Kura-Pelland) [85,100] Final, QF 1

Capitol Arena (old national stadium) [70,000] Third place play-off, QF 2

Dynami Arena (home of Dinamo Karrakiv) [55,000] SF 1

Sparti Arena (home of Qasarian Sparta) [54,000] SF 2

Kabano Stadium (home of Kabano Marauders and Kabano Bulls) [50,000] QF 3

Krieger Arena (home of Karrakiv Warriors) [42,000] QF 4

Qasarian Central (home of Qasarian City) [38,000] Repêchage game 1

Koltelcia Stadium (Home of Koltelcia SC) [36,000] Repêchage game 2

Balakarassia State Stadium (former national stadium) [30,000] Repêchage game 3

Empire Stadium (home of Karrakiv Wolves) [25,000]

Tournament plan

I plan to have 3 groups of 4 teams, each will play the other teams in its group twice. The top two teams will gain an automatic place in the Quarter finals. The third placed teams will play each other in the repêchage round. The top two of these will then advance to the quarter finals as well.

As is the convention, 4 points will be awarded for a win, 2 points for a draw, 0 points for a loss. A team losing by 5 or fewer points earns 1 bonus point.

For tiebreakers (hereafter 'points' means points scored in a game e.g. 5 for a try, not earned for a result e.g. 4 for a win): i) points difference; ii) total points for; iii) number of wins; iv) head-to-head results; v) head-to-head points difference; vi) head-to-head total points for.

Scorination

Scorination will be done daily at 19:00 GMT from the tournament start date, with an RP cut off at 18:50 (anything posted after this time, but before the results will be carried to the next game). I will use Starblaydia's rugby scorinator, which seems to work exceptionally well, giving fair and realistic scores.

RP bonus' will be carried on for three games to prevent them getting too large whilst allowing for dedicated members to gain a good advantage. RP bonus' will be given between 0.1 and 0.5 depending on quality (which I will judge). I will use my world rankings (above) to change the scoring modifiers.

Hmm, just a question about bonus points there Somewhereistonia.. Three points is a mighty close range for a bonus point. In the RL WC and the Super 14 it's within seven points.. I'm not sure what kind of scores your scorinator puts out, but a 7 point margin could be better.

Wait, what, there's a Super 14 league?

In RL, yes. Contested between NZ, Aussie and SA teams.

Given the results put out by the scorinator, 7 is too large. You are probably right that 3 is on the low side. I have decided to change it to 5 for now, a good compromise. Any other input in this will help.

Oh, sorry, I thought you were talking about RP bonus. D'oh!

I agree that 3 would be too low; I don't have Starblaydia's scorinator, but looking at the results generated by it in the past bonus points do seem infrequent, so 5 is reasonable. 'In-character', it would add the same tension to a game in terms of scoring a try rather than just kicking 3 points.

Okay, so this doesn't seem to be moving along.. So we've got two apparent bids for hosting the next world cup. Shall we have a vote?

Last time we TGed our votes to a neutral, so is someone willing to act in that capacity this time?

I would be more than willing to fulfill that role.

Ok!

In that case, please send a vote for either Quintessence of Dust (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14674923&postcount=35) or Somewhereistonia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14698794&postcount=41) to Peisandros by - I think 5 days is plenty - 1200 UTC 20th April.

Thanks.

As few people have talked on here since signing up, do you reckon you could send out a tg Peisandros?

Also, I take it me and QoD forfeit voting?

Sure. I can send out a TG later on.

You and QoD may aswell vote, although it doesn't make much difference. I'll abstain unless there is a draw.

As a reminder, you have just over 24 hours to get your votes into Peisandros.

Yes and please do! Voting hasn't exactly been crazy.. So if you plan on being part of this World Cup please have your say!

And I just realised my not sending out a TG probably didn't help. Dang. Will do so ASAP!

In which case, voting will be extended by another 24 hours, till 1200 UTC, 21st April! Sorry to all for the delay, had our week off at uni and was all over the place.

The extension is fair enough Peisandros. It actually helps me because everything seemed to be starting on monday, including uni.

The extension is fair enough Peisandros. It actually helps me because everything seemed to be starting on monday, including uni.

Ditto. I actually don't know how much spare time I'll have from about now onwards, but we'll forge on.

Okay, TGs sent to everyone expressing interest, so get those replies in please! Thhhank you.

Alright, that'll do it for the WC hosting votes, here are the results:

Quintessence of Dustt - 3
Somewhereistonia - 2

Congratulations to Quod and good luck!

Hoookay, thanks for the vote of confidence, although I must say Somewhereistonia's bid rather put mine to shame in terms of detail.

For my convenience, I would prefer to get this started sooner rather than later such that it completed by the end of May (it shouldn't take that long anyway, I'm just conscious that the low interest level means it might be slow to get going). It'd also be nice to get going before WC qualification kicks off, though I'm not sure if this will prove possible. If there is some brain-explodingly obvious reason why this is a bad idea, please do say.

I have asked that this thread be renamed, and it will be treated as the OOC thread for the competition. There is also still time to sign-up if you haven't done so already.

Congratulations QoD, but only 5 votes :s

The Bye would like to sign-up.

Puppet signing up for the numbers.

Socialism and Football, a puppet of Quintessence of Dust, signs up to make numbers add up nicely.

Socialism and Football, eh? Sounds like my kind of people!

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http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=590947

Newswire thread.

And here's the IC thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=590974).

Let's hope more people show up to play than did to vote!

That said, sign-ups are closed.

For those wanting to put up their league in the newswires thread, if you have any problems getting Dancougar's mod working, just send me a message.

Right. Given the reasonable notice that's been given, I've decided Matchday One will be Monday 27th April. The cut-off time for rosters and Matchday One RPs will be 1100 UTC. I think that's a more than fair allowance for those who haven't yet posted.

If any of the teams that have thus far posted rosters want to have a pre-tournament friendly, let me know.

Norwellia is down for some friendlies. Anyone who's amenable, drop me a TG.

I will play friendlies with people whenever they want in run up to world cup, I am also open to Unreal229 having friendlies.

OK, seriously, WTF? How are we this good? Rugby is an amatuer sport in Norwellia. This is crazy! I haven't even been sacrificing anyone lately!

Its a fluke, the scorinator has been kind to you. You could still miss out on the QF stage.

That, or my front line is Thor personified and....

....well, yeah, let's go with the fluke thing. :D

I know the results have been random, but I really don't think they've been too random: the high-ranking teams that have fared poorly have had no RP bonus. We'll see how it works out down the line.

Just because I was bored, here are the Rugby World Rankings updated to match day 3. They will still change; probably considerably. e.g. Solenial will almost certainly continue to slide.

1 Kelssek
2 Taeshan
3 Sorthern Northland
4 Candelaria & Marquez
5 West Zirconia
6 Solenial
7 Peisandros
8 Lovisa
9 Norwellia
10 Quint. of Dust
11 Idanno
12 Liventia
13 Septentrionia
14 Miroxia
15 Somewhereistonia
16 Krytenia
17 Unreal229
18 Myedvedeya
19 An Blascaod Mór
20 Kose & Turkomans
21 Milchama
22 Alversia
23 Kenavt
24 Icy cold death touch
25 Socialism and Football
26 The Bye

I'm not going to bother messing around with copying the whole table as these aren't 'official' rankings.

7th huh, happy with that.

'Rolling rankings' for match day 4. If CAM had scored one more drop goal/penalty in the last three world cups, they would be above Sorth.

Country
1 Kelssek
2 Sorthern Northland
3 Candelaria & Marquez
4 West Zirconia
5 Taeshan
6 Lovisa
7 Solenial
8 Peisandros
9 Norwellia
10 Quint. of Dust
11 Idanno
12 Somewhereistonia
13 Liventia
14 Septentrionia
15 Miroxia
16 Krytenia
17 Socialism and Football
18 Unreal229
19 Myedvedeya
20 An Blascaod Mór
21 Kose & Turkomans
22 Milchama
23 Alversia
24 Kenavt
25 Icy cold death touch
26 The Bye

Jeez, #9 ain't bad for a beginner, eh?

'Rolling rankings' for MD 5. Kelssek was so close to losing his grip on the top before his win.

1 Kelssek
2 Candelaria & Marquez
3 West Zirconia
4 Sorthern Northland
5 Taeshan
6 Lovisa
7 Peisandros
8 Solenial
9 Quint. of Dust
10 Norwellia
11 Somewhereistonia
12 Idanno
13 Liventia
14 Septentrionia
15 Miroxia
16 Krytenia
17 Socialism and Football
18 Myedvedeya
19 The Bye
20 Unreal229
21 An Blascaod Mór
22 Kose & Turkomans
23 Milchama
24 Alversia
25 Kenavt
26 Icy cold death touch

Schedule for knockout rounds (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14757500&postcount=39).

Oh god I have to play the #1 team. Got another one in ya, Marge?

With repechage complete I've updated the QF schedule.

So, we have progressed to the semis. Given what has happened in past RWCs, I think it is only fair that if we make it to the final, I will turn scorination of that game over to someone else.

It would have to be the same scorinator that you are using to scorinate the final, but I would be happy to scorinate it if you did get through.

Here are the latest 'rolling rankings'. I used QoD's extra-time score in the rankings for this.

Country
1 Kelssek
2 Candelaria & Marquez
3 West Zirconia
4 Sorthern Northland
5 Taeshan
6 Lovisa
7 Quint. of Dust
8 Peisandros
9 Somewhereistonia
10 Solenial
11 Norwellia
12 Idanno
13 Liventia
14 Septentrionia
15 Miroxia
16 Krytenia
17 Socialism and Football
18 Myedvedeya
19 The Bye
20 Unreal229
21 An Blascaod Mór
22 Kose & Turkomans
23 Milchama
24 Alversia
25 Kenavt
26 Icy cold death touch

The final 'rolling rankings' for the tournament. Kelssek will finish top. If West Zirconia lose, and Candelaria & Marquez win, then they will switch places. If Quintessence of Dust win, they will rise to 5th.

1 Kelssek
2 West Zirconia
3 Candelaria & Marquez
4 Sorthern Northland
5 Taeshan
6 Lovisa
7 Quint. of Dust
8 Peisandros
9 Somewhereistonia
10 Solenial
11 Norwellia
12 Idanno
13 Liventia
14 Septentrionia
15 Miroxia
16 Krytenia
17 Socialism and Football
18 Myedvedeya
19 The Bye
20 Unreal229
21 An Blascaod Mór
22 Kose & Turkomans
23 Milchama
24 Alversia
25 Kenavt
26 Icy cold death touch

Thanks for the well run tourny, sorry I couldn't be as involved as much as I would have liked.. Uni got busy!

The full rankings table for the end of the tournament.


Country WC 10 points WC 11 points WC 12 Points Total pts diff Total points
1 Kelssek 8 33 24 33 68
2 Candelaria & Marquez 20 8 24 46 52.8
3 West Zirconia 16 24 27 51.2
4 Sorthern Northland 20 16 14 38 43.2
5 Taeshan 20 20 4 29 30.4
6 Lovisa 2 28 4 12 29.6
7 Quint. of Dust 5 16 23 29.6
8 Peisandros 13 10 18 26.4
9 Somewhereistonia 16 25 25.6
10 Solenial 8 26 18 24
11 Norwellia 12 23 19.2
12 Idanno 19 12 15.2
13 Liventia 14 13 11.2
14 Septentrionia 13 14 10.4
15 Miroxia 10 15 8
16 Krytenia 4 20 6.4
17 Socialism and Football 4 21 6.4
18 Myedvedeya 8 18 6.4
19 The Bye 4 23 6.4
20 Unreal229 4 24 6.4
21 An Blascaod Mór 6 21 4.8
22 Kose & Turkomans 8 30 3.2
23 Milchama 6 0 29 2.4
24 Alversia 3 24 2.4
25 Kenavt 2 27 0.8
26 Icy cold death touch 2 28 0.8
Average → 9.6 14.88 10.93 23.5 33.23


Will sort out the columns later, my patience with jolt has run out.