Has Sports RP taken over the Nationstates forum?
Starblaydia
15-01-2009, 12:07
A brief glance at any point throughout the day or night will show the vast majority of threads on the first page are Sports-based. The World Cup and its various associated and unassociated football tournaments being the most obvious, Girdiron, Lacrosse, Ice Hockey, Rugby League, Drum & Bugle, individual leagues, Olympics... even WorldVision can be seen as this type of competitive RP, just with music instead of sports.
Have we, the Sports RPers, taken over this forum? Traditionally the NationStates forum has been the home of the intensive solo storyteller, the grand and intricate national and international roleplays that shake the very world, or just a single individual's life.
International Incidents, as well as drawing the stereotypical "omg I n00kz u + ur ninja terminater dragonz!!!1!!1!" players, also holds the technical Arms builders, the players who want to RP in Middle Earth, Starfleet and many other universes, it's the home of various incarnations of Earth, diplomatic blackslapping like you wouldn't believe and, yes, people who will invade whoever posts the first reply to their thread.
Is the Nationstates forum now just 'oh that place where the sports losers play'... or what?
Thought appreciated, from the Sports types, non sports type and... well... everyone browsing the forum.
Newmanistan
15-01-2009, 12:14
Probably, I haven't been here as long as others but even I can remember seeing more other RP threads there. Sports/competition should have its own forum though, so I can't say that I feel sorry for those who don't like it. If I were to start up some kind of thread of say, a democracy movement wanting to kick the Empress out of power (which I have on our regional message board fwiw), I would put it on International Incidents as that seems more of a place for that crowd.
I do go to "II" for a laugh sometimes though over those newbies who want to nuke the world.
Sarzonia
15-01-2009, 16:13
I do the bulk of my non-sports RPing on International Incidents. I've been on here when people constantly slagged I.I. roleplayers compared to the NS forum, as if I.I. were nothing but n00bs who want to n00k the world. I've seen people characterise I.I. as being all war or all tech wank and NS as mostly character.
I've seen horrid RPers on this forum and I've seen outstanding RPers on I.I. I've seen some outstanding character RPers on I.I. and some RPers (Pacitalia comes to mind) who can set a scene with the best of them. In fact, I like it when Pacitalia RPs a scene that takes place in Sarzonia because he can create the image better than I can.
I'm considering RPing a constitutional convention for Rymeria to give it a constitution that more closely resembles that of the U.S. (Right now, Rymeria has something between the Articles of Confederation and the Confederacy's constitution). I'm considering doing that on NS.
To me, RPing is RPing, whether it takes the form of character RPs or all action war RPs.
Kura-Pelland
15-01-2009, 17:14
'Competition RP' has clearly mushroomed and diversified greatly in recent months, and probably to the point that it has earned its own space. I believe that would be mutually beneficial. Has it taken over? Maybe, but I'm not sure that's the right question.
Northrop-Grumman
15-01-2009, 20:39
I know I'm going to step on quite a few people's toes with this, but I'm not going to sit here and lie about it.
I've heard from others how the NationStates subforum is being taken over by Sports RPs, that its all they ever see here, and how they don't want to RP here because of it. So basically, its a neverending cycle of sorts. They don't want to RP here because of sports...but...in order for it not to be all sports, someone is going to have to RP here.
Basically, this gets down to my main point: the forum is what you make it. If you don't want it to be all sports, create character RPs, start a diplomatic event, do something where people can get together and write. Just don't sit there and complain about it...because nothing ever gets done if you keep doing that. Honestly, I'd like to see more of those kinds of RPs here, and I do have a few here that I've been trying to keep up with (aside from the RL responsibilities that always some first). But if folks don't start doing, instead of just saying, it will be all sports all the time.
Now, before someone somewhere gets the wrong impression, while sports aren't exactly my thing, I respect you all and am glad to see this subforum keeping active. Sports RPing is RPing no matter what anyone says.
Starblaydia
15-01-2009, 20:57
I know I'm going to step on quite a few people's toes with this, but I'm not going to sit here and lie about it.
I've heard from others how the NationStates subforum is being taken over by Sports RPs, that its all they ever see here, and how they don't want to RP here because of it. So basically, its a neverending cycle of sorts. They don't want to RP here because of sports...but...in order for it not to be all sports, someone is going to have to RP here.
Basically, this gets down to my main point: the forum is what you make it. If you don't want it to be all sports, create character RPs, start a diplomatic event, do something where people can get together and write. Just don't sit there and complain about it...because nothing ever gets done if you keep doing that. Honestly, I'd like to see more of those kinds of RPs here, and I do have a few here that I've been trying to keep up with (aside from the RL responsibilities that always some first). But if folks don't start doing, instead of just saying, it will be all sports all the time.
Now, before someone somewhere gets the wrong impression, while sports aren't exactly my thing, I respect you all and am glad to see this subforum keeping active. Sports RPing is RPing no matter what anyone says.
Now this is the sort of person I was after a reply from (no disrespect to my fellow Sports RPers above of course but I knew there had to be someone outside our competitive little community who could join in with my little debate - thanks, Northrop-Grumman, for your input :)
I think that the Sports RP threads have got out of hand, lately, as what used to just be the World Cup (and Cherry Cup, perhaps) has blossomed into multiple tournaments for every sport in the western world imaginable.
The NS forum, when I came here, was for the great character RPs of the Assington Vampires, for instance, or stories like The Golden Scimitar's current episode of the Scimatarian Eclipse - things that would never be read in II, except for the trolls looking for an easy target, because they'd be off the front page in three hours flat.
I don't RP in II because of that very fact - any sort of international incident immediately has a dozen nations of varying sizes, persuasions and levels of wank/arrogance/godmode spouting off left, right and centre. Diplomacy is nice, but I just couldn't keep up with the sorts of diplomatic threads that start and never, ever end. Networking it may be, but jesus that's a lot of hard work to keep up. This is why I stick to sports, selected character and story RPs; basically because the n00bs can't ruin it for me - ashamed as I am to put it in those words.
For the moment, it would appear that the Sports RPs are indeed dominating the forum quite a bit. However, this is basically the result, as NG has pointed out, of a decline in the posting frequency of those involved in the non-sports RPs, coupled with the tendency of said RPs to spawn multiple threads - scores, competitions, sign-ups and so forth, all require (apparently) individual topics. The combination of multiple threads per event (two for the Drum and Bugle Corps, three for this, another two for that, and so on), and the reduction in post-rate experienced by every other RP on the forum will inevitably make the sports RPs colonise the front page every time.
Whether that's representative of a long-term trend is difficult to ascertain at this stage, however. The sports roleplays, in six months, may be shoved down to page three by a sudden multiplicity of more conventional RPs, populated by posters who frequently have the opportunity, the will and/or the means to contribute to their continuation. The sports tide may simply ebb, leaving the forum much as it was six or seven months ago. It's simply not possible, to my mind at least, to establish whether the sports RPs are "taking over" as yet.
Edit: I think it might be worth mentioning at this point (in order to avoid the reader being left with the impression that Emperor Know-it-All of Smugbuggeria has just descended upon the forum) that I've been knocking around the game since October '03; this little nation is now my new posting vehicle. So I do have some small grasp of what goes on.
Sports RP are dominant in this sub-forum, but International Incidents is still alive and well, so I say no.
Jeruselem
15-01-2009, 23:54
Yes, it's taken over NS but II is a different matter.
I don't have time for II these days like I used to.
I've dropped NSG due to being more occupied with another forum.
Starblaydia
15-01-2009, 23:58
Sports RP are dominant in this sub-forum, but International Incidents is still alive and well, so I say no.
By 'Nationstates Forum', I of course mean 'Nationstates Subforum', as we haven't gone anywhere near Gameplay or the World Assembly yet :)
Pantocratoria
16-01-2009, 01:09
There certainly are a lot of sports RPs in this forum these days, so maybe it is getting that way, but I don't think that's a bad thing. This forum is for RPs of all sorts, without fear of replies like "fist psot i n00k u". Whatever style of RPs you get a kick out of, that's what this forum is for, in my opinion.
Liventia
16-01-2009, 02:37
Separation of sport RPs from the NS subforum will be detrimental to both the genre and this subforum. If sport RPs get their own forum, we'd see almost no new people coming through. This is already a problem now, but moving it out of the "main" NS forum would surely slow the trickle down even more.
Most new character RPs already survive on their own in here. Most are closed, so if this became a sport-free forum exactly how many new character RPs would you see? Or would this place just fill with nonsense or just empty out?
There are some of us who do sport RPs but who only do our other RPing in here (as I do). For example, my PM assassination thread was posted here as this is where I do all my RPing and I'm targetting a response from people, who normally post in here, who know the background. If sports split from here, I'd probably end up being deluged by bad II-types (not the good ones Sarz talks about) in my thread saying stuff like I've posted it in the wrong forum (which I already have, at least once, which the mods kindly got rid off).
It's lose-lose to split sports from here.
By 'Nationstates Forum', I of course mean 'Nationstates Subforum', as we haven't gone anywhere near Gameplay or the World Assembly yet :)
Well, in that case, everyone that seems to seek war or diplomatic meeting do it in II. I've seen a couple people in II attempting sports.
Dancougar
16-01-2009, 05:16
I tend to use sports as a vehicle for my nation's regular side stories, although I'm sure plenty of people would much rather I split them apart so they didn't have to sift through my mess ^_^
Daehanjeiguk
16-01-2009, 05:32
*votes in favor of status quo*
No need to change anything... yet...
I think it is getting that way, (and I'm partially to blame, with the Oxen Cup, Tour de Qazox and the WBC, and my Qazoxian Sports Festivals, which i'm going to do once a year, as with the TdQ.)
But when i first started looking ont he forums here, just about 3 years ago, yes it has been that long, it was about 75-25 non-sports RP, and most of the non-sports RP was closed or by invite only, so what choice did I have as a newb but to start where I was welcomed (the debate as to with open-arms or rolling of the eyes is an entirely different thing). Now is about 70-30 the other way. Maybe, Maybe perhaps, on some of the other sports RP's, ie: WBC, WCof Hockey, IBC, WLC, WRC, they should be held at certian times of the year. I'm no including the WC, CoH or BoF, as the amount of time between each one is fairly consistant. (which was my big problem with the WWC, but that's another story again.)
A proposed schedule?
January-February: World Cup of Hockey (prime hockey season) and Winter Olympics
March-April: International Basketball Championships (to coincide w/ the NCAA tourney)
May-June: World Baseball Classic (as that when Baseball tends to dominate the RL sports stage)
July/August: Rugby (to be honest, don't know when a good time for Rugby is) and Summer Olympics
September/October: Lacrosse (Lacrosse season in RL)
November/December: World Bowl (as in RL the NFL and NCAA footbal dominate the sports stage)
I personally have been trying to spread out the events I host/ in charge of. I haven't had a Tour de Qazox since last August/September, and probably not again until this July. and I'm trying to get the WBC to happen about every 3 months or so, as that's plenty of time to decompress and mentaly prepare for the next one.
In the 3 years I've been here I've been apart of 18 World Cup qualifying campaigns. That's one every 2 months, with about 1 month being the qualifiers and Cup itself, 2 weeks for the CoH, 2 weeks for the BoF, and it starts again. My mistake, as mentioned earlier, with the Women's World Cup was in about 9 months I had 12 tourneys. With about a week downtime inbetween each one, people got burned out on it. While with the WBC, which started about 18 months ago, the 10th edition is upcoming, AFTER the next World Cup and the Olympics, to attempt to coincide with the RL one in March.
My point is, IF the sports RPers are willing to slow down a bit, then perhaps some of the other non-sports-RPing members won't be so put-off about coming here.
I do my political and non-sports RPs in here too. And yes, there's certainly been a profusion of sports RPs in the last few months.
As someone else said, the reason that non-sports RPs here don't seem to gain a lot of traction is probably because so many of them are tagged with the word "closed".
Liventia
16-01-2009, 11:48
Qazox, any attempts at a schedule will be useless. Simply because no one will enforce it and you really don't have any right to say who's to post what when.
Starblaydia
16-01-2009, 11:57
Qazox, any attempts at a schedule will be useless. Simply because no one will enforce it and you really don't have any right to say who's to post what when.
Precisely - if someone wants American Football in January, they'd have to wait ten months... which is fairly silly. Stuff that isn't the World Cup traveling circus can fade in and out with the levels of interest. There just happens to be a lot of interest in a lot of different things at the moment.
Dancougar
16-01-2009, 15:44
I've tried to wait at least a month in between basketball tournaments, and I wouldn't have started it had there not been an "I'm interested in this, post if you are too" thread. I wouldn't say no to a schedule, but I agree that it would be difficult to stick to.
Bluth Corporation
16-01-2009, 18:21
Qazox, the problem with that idea is that a year is a really, really, really long time on the Internet.
Plus, some of us are only interested in one or two sports, or at least only feel we know enough about them to be able to RP effectively. For instance, I only do World Bowl and WBC because I happen to know football and baseball inside and out and can create pretty detailed RPs, whereas my knowledge of basketball is enough to know what's going on but I don't know strategy, and I know jack shit about soccer and don't care enough to learn just to be able to play an Internet game.
Those of us who meet that description would really be hurting for stuff to participate in between these events if they were once-yearly.
Kura-Pelland
16-01-2009, 18:44
I'm going to say Ad'ihan has made an excellent point. And so has Kelssek. Perhaps sports-RP has gained a lot of excellent new RPers who come to these forums, see all the 'closed' signs for everything else, see 'World Cup --- signup thread (Wide-Open)', get involved, and so it goes from there.
And that's without mentioning all the others!
Nethertopia
16-01-2009, 19:09
I daresay, as more-or-less-decent-sports-RPer, let us make an open RP, not about sport. Anyone nice subjects?
Starblaydia
16-01-2009, 19:59
Hell, even my Centenary celebrations/national leader proposing event turned into a sports RP. I don't think I can actually do it!
Well, once my first-contact RP gets fairly settled, I'll probably RP a constitutional convention since Rymeria currently is working with a bastardized mix of the Articles of Confederation and the Confederate States of America's constitution with some other idiosyncracies thrown in.
Then again, I don't know if anyone's going to be assed to cover a constitutional convention on another planet with human "aliens." :tongue:
Bluth Corporation
16-01-2009, 21:01
I do most of my character RP over in II, though I'm not sure why.
For instance, I've been doing an off-again on-again thing (basically, whenever I can think of the next step in the story) about the history of the party that runs my country's government, and its efforts to foment revolutions elsewhere.
Then again, because of the possibility of conflict, it probably belongs in II.
So never mind.
Edwards Street
16-01-2009, 21:10
I haven't been on NS for a few weeks, but it's starting to look that way, too many role playing threads, they need to be moved somewhere else.
yeah there would to much of a wait. And a lot of people would get really bored fast with once a year and stuff. To much open space. And noone could move up fast and stuff. It would take years.
And some of us just join everything Bluth. I know soccer, B-ball , baseball, football, lacrosse, hockey and many other sports inside and out(mostly because even in my 14 years i do a lot of sports, and i like most of them) The only sport on her i dont really understand are rugby and league witch i bet everyone could guess.
Starblaydia
16-01-2009, 22:25
I haven't been on NS for a few weeks, but it's starting to look that way, too many role playing threads, they need to be moved somewhere else.
Too many roleplaying threads? Er, what? You mean too many that are Sports based, or too many threads overall in an, um, in-character forum "where nations come together and discuss matters of varying degrees of importance"?
I was just throwing out a sugestion. By no means was I attempting to control or declare that "THIS IS THE WAY IT MUST BE, 'CAUSE QAZOX SAID SO". I was just spitballing.
Vojvodina-Nihon
18-01-2009, 03:33
There is a lot of sports RP, yes. That is not, however, because sports RPing has "taken over" the NS forum. In fact, the major issue seems to be this:
When I joined NS, this forum regularly had anywhere from three to five pages of RP threads: diplomatic RPs, exploration RPs, supernatural/horror RPs, police procedural RPs, and yes, sport RPs. When I came back with V-N that was down to a few diplomatic functions and a few sports threads. It seemed all of the major character RPers had gotten lazy, or given up on NS, or now had jobs or school or something, and thus only the well-established communities of sports RPers and a few other old-timers remained. The old blood was dying out but no new blood had come forth to replace it.
That is the main problem -- nobody's really interested in RP anymore. Even I'm not that interested, and I'm defending it. Most of the active RPers now are '07 or '08 nations (mostly on II) or '03 or '04 nations (mostly here); there's little outstanding work done by the former group, and little work at all done by the latter. Hence, no RP.
Don't like it? Start something.
Alasdair I Frosticus
18-01-2009, 12:55
I seem to dimly remember a time back in early 2003, in those far-off pre-Jolt days, when the NationStates forum had more posts than the International Incidents forum. By mid-2003, that had changed.
That's by the by. I think the real issue (I hesitate to use the word 'problem', with its negative connotations) is the recent increase in the number of sport-related events.
For a long time, the [football/soccer] World Cup was the only major sporting event in this forum, occasionally supplemented by an ice hockey tournament or short-lived alternative. But presumably partially inspired by the success of the World Cup (and the phenomenon of younger nations wanting to start something themselves, to vayring degrees of success), we now have ice hockey, American football, both major forms of rugby, lacrosse, and who knows what else. At what price the first annual chess-boxing championship? I've considered satirically starting the first Holy Empire Cannibalism Cup for Nations with Alternative Moral Structures, but was worried I'd actually get sign-ups.
More seriously, we now have so many different active sporting events now that they dominate the first page of this thread. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Even as a long-term active sports RP'er, I don't pretend to have an opinion on that. But as V-N points out, those who don't like the situation, can always start something.
I think theres also a little in it, that more people who come onto nationstates know such as me, Secristan, Newmanistan, and some others know a lot about a lot of sports and less about how to rp other tings. Im a history buff but it would be practically inpossible for me to start a wole new idea on my countries history, but heres a sport i can wtrite about. That would be funner.
Bears Armed
18-01-2009, 15:45
I'm considering RPing a constitutional convention for Rymeria to give it a constitution that more closely resembles that of the U.S. (Right now, Rymeria has something between the Articles of Confederation and the Confederacy's constitution). I'm considering doing that on NS.
I'm using the Articles of Confederation as the basic source for the Bears' constitution, too, although I haven't finished the re-write yet...
I daresay, as more-or-less-decent-sports-RPer, let us make an open RP, not about sport. Anyone nice subjects?
Somebody started an OOC thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=573787) back in November, asking for nations who'd be interested in playing host when his national leader took a holiday & took his family on tour around NS... but he/she dropped out of NS before starting the IC thread. That was actually in II, but I think that something of the sort would fit here well enough and could be interesting...
Maybe a publishing house in somebody's nation might commission a 'Rough Guide to NS' series, and we could RP the writers' travels?
Zwangzug
18-01-2009, 15:49
Just a couple potential reasons why sports RP might be particularly attractive. I'm not sure which can be duplicated in a potential non-sports thread, but just to throw it out there...
One important factor, for me, is that anyone can do it from an IC context. International Incidents RPs are often segregated by technology level, for instance, and a stereotypical character RP in this subforum might deal with the Elven High Priest Stërúóélá's visit to the temple of Nsshrygrrk in the Booga galaxy...which might be intimidating for many of us to jump into. It is for me, anyhow. Sports RPs, on the other hand, can get countries that wouldn't make eye contact much less talk to each other through the normal diplomatic channels to interact. All you need are a handful of athletes, and boom.
You also have freedom to do pretty much anything in your RPs, from normal media reports to solo storylines to full-scale, uh, international incidents (ba-doom-chink?). Other RP settings are more limited to the interaction of a certain group of characters, which as mentioned can get overly complicated if too many people are involved.
I agree with you to some extent, Zwangzug. I'm determined to keep Sarzonia strictly MT, especially since I'm now using a RP'd population (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578369), and have this nation strictly stay FT.
Thus, Rymeria would not be expected to have any kind of relations with strictly MT nations that Sarzonia is aligned with or enemies of such as Isselmere, Praetonia or Pacitalia or MT Doomingsland. Conversely, FT Romandeos wouldn't have any interaction with Sarzonia, but MT Romandeos would.
Having said that, the pitch is the great equaliser. If Pacitalia were to send a team to the World Cup again and Rymeria were as well, the two sides could meet on the pitch. They wouldn't even know each other in other RPs.
That's one of the things that makes sports RPing unique. However, if you don't want to see NS consist of an overwhelming majority of sports RPs, the onus is on you the player to create non-sports RPs that will draw an audience. It's not up to players who enjoy sports RPing to stop those RPs.
Liventia
19-01-2009, 01:14
But presumably partially inspired by the success of the World Cup (and the phenomenon of younger nations wanting to start something themselves, to vayring degrees of success), we now have ice hockey, American football, both major forms of rugby, lacrosse, and who knows what else.
Don't look now. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580141)
Rymeria and Vod, I've got to point something out. Many RPs simply die out due to a lack of posts, regardless of what one does in the way of attempting to get the ball rolling. This applies both to NS and II as sub-fora; I began one RP with my old nation (which shall not be named due to sheer embarassment), which had a list of seven or so proposed participants. The first participant (Pacific Northwesteria) died due to inactivity within a month of beginning the RP; the second made two posts and never returned to it.
In this forum, whence I migrated having grown weary of the ways of II and its inhabitants, I've to date been involved in three RPs; one (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=555927) has stalled due to the OP (in effect the DM) ceasing posting, another (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=557399) has become inactive due to one of the participants failing to post, and the last (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556304) I've managed to make grind to a halt because I simply can't think of anything to write.
It's all very well calling on people to post non-sports roleplay threads, but if the participants in those threads are inactive it becomes not only a waste of time and energy, but also a serious discouragement and irritant to the player/s still involved. I know I pretty much expect RPs to grind to a protesting halt nowadays; having been here since October '03 I've seen it happen too often to expect anything else.
That said, of course, you both make the same point perfectly: it's up to non-sports roleplayers, who perhaps are weary of seeing the front page stuffed with cups, tournaments and fixtures, to make the effort to post to RP threads. The peroblem is making the buggers do it ;)
Sarzonia
19-01-2009, 02:11
I began one RP with my old nation (which shall not be named due to sheer embarassment)
Oh, I have a guess as to who that old nation is. ;)
I seem to dimly remember a time back in early 2003, in those far-off pre-Jolt days, when the NationStates forum had more posts than the International Incidents forum. By mid-2003, that had changed.
That's by the by. I think the real issue (I hesitate to use the word 'problem', with its negative connotations) is the recent increase in the number of sport-related events.
For a long time, the [football/soccer] World Cup was the only major sporting event in this forum, occasionally supplemented by an ice hockey tournament or short-lived alternative. But presumably partially inspired by the success of the World Cup (and the phenomenon of younger nations wanting to start something themselves, to vayring degrees of success), we now have ice hockey, American football, both major forms of rugby, lacrosse, and who knows what else. At what price the first annual chess-boxing championship? I've considered satirically starting the first Holy Empire Cannibalism Cup for Nations with Alternative Moral Structures, but was worried I'd actually get sign-ups.
More seriously, we now have so many different active sporting events now that they dominate the first page of this thread. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Even as a long-term active sports RP'er, I don't pretend to have an opinion on that. But as V-N points out, those who don't like the situation, can always start something.
HEy don't leave out the Tour de Qazox or the Olympics!
Dariusville
19-01-2009, 22:21
I've considered satirically starting the first Holy Empire Cannibalism Cup for Nations with Alternative Moral Structures, but was worried I'd actually get sign-ups.
<_<
>_>
I definately would NOT have signed up for that.
...
Ok, I would have done it, to be honest...
Alasdair I Frosticus
19-01-2009, 22:47
Don't look now. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580141)
Oh, I'd already noticed. As you no doubt intended to indicate, it singlehandedly proves several aspects of that particular point.
Krytenia
20-01-2009, 00:08
Maybe it is time for the NSWC's cabal of RPers to branch out, and roleplay about something a little less...competitive. A number of us, IIRC, participated in the Starblayde-Domasca wedding thread last year for instance.
We are the major RPers on this forum now, for better or worse; let us lead the way and encourage those that have gone away from the fold.
I look especially at the likes of Starblaydia, Sarzonia, and those who have proved to be excellent RPers in this field in the past.
Be the beacons of the Second Age of the NationStates Forum.
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Zwangzug
20-01-2009, 04:35
One other potential problem is the way NationStates works...each of us has the freedom to construct our own utopia. This is awesome, but utopias are sort of, don't hold your breath, utopian. Now, plots are driven on conflict, and conflict sort of defeats the purpose of having utopias. In my opinion, sports serves as artificial conflict, and thus gives people something to RP about. But if we already can design our countries how we want them, there's no reason to risk anything, if that makes any sense...
Doesn't explain International Incidents, though.
and I just added more fuel to the fire with the WBC 10 signups.
Starblaydia
20-01-2009, 10:59
Maybe it is time for the NSWC's cabal of RPers to branch out, and roleplay about something a little less...competitive. A number of us, IIRC, participated in the Starblayde-Domasca wedding thread last year for instance.
We are the major RPers on this forum now, for better or worse; let us lead the way and encourage those that have gone away from the fold.
I look especially at the likes of Starblaydia, Sarzonia, and those who have proved to be excellent RPers in this field in the past.
Be the beacons of the Second Age of the NationStates Forum.
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The Starblaydi Centenary Celebration/International Leaders Doubles Beach Volleyball had just the right mix of sports competition, drunkenness and romance , as well as having a definite 'aim', rather than the party threads that everybody RPs entry to, then get bored as two people end up with a conversation consisting of 1-line posts about something random, unassociated with the thread. This was why I put the volleyball in there, to keep the drinking ticking along with some points of interest, add an RP occasionally, and provide a definite conclusion to the piece.
Which turned out quite well, I think.
The secret is to get a hook that is more than just 'yeah people talking and stuff', as well as a definite aim/conclusion to the RP. The World Cup Final, for instance, is a nicely defined, thought out conclusion to a World Cup RP thread. More time to think, I think.
Oh, and thanks :)
Alasdair I Frosticus
20-01-2009, 14:14
Behold, I rise to the challenge:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580347
Dread Lady Nathicana
20-01-2009, 15:05
NS has always been where a lot of us have rp'd, since the beginning - and there have been some awesome, dare I say epic, threads come of it. Some play on both rp forums, some don't, and everyone has their interests. There's room for everyone, imho. Still, if you want to see more rp threads that aren't sports-related, the answer is simple:
Write and participate in more non-sport rp threads. ;)
Third Spanish States
21-01-2009, 01:20
After reading this thread, only a thought crossed my mind:
Why not combine both Sports and the usual "heroic" stuff and character parties of roleplaying games? And have a play-by-post thread as epic and comedic as the following example?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barkley,_Shut_Up_and_Jam:_Gaiden