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Unless one of these has been started before, I'm gonna go ahead and deem this the official WBC discussion thread. For all past, present and future WBC's. So, speaking of WBC, when is the next one due to start?

OOC: Are you talking about a NS WBC or the RL one?

If the NS one, there've been World Cups of Baseball. If RL, the first one took place in 2006. The next one is slated for 2009. Subsequent ones will take place quadrennally.

The NS one, of course.

And I know there's been World Cups of Baseball. But this is for the World Baseball Classic, to be specific, I think the next one will be WBC 9.

To be honest wtih you Tocrowkia, I've almost forgotten about it. :$:$

We have them about every 3 months, I was planning on starting the next one around Thanksgiving (American) or so.

If there's enough interest generated by the end of this week, then I'll start up the sign-up thread then, OK?

To be honest wtih you Tocrowkia, I've almost forgotten about it. :$:$

We have them about every 3 months, I was planning on starting the next one around Thanksgiving (American) or so.

If there's enough interest generated by the end of this week, then I'll start up the sign-up thread then, OK?

Sure thing. :)

Well, I plan on participating in the next one.

To be honest wtih you Tocrowkia, I've almost forgotten about it. :$:$

We have them about every 3 months, I was planning on starting the next one around Thanksgiving (American) or so.

If there's enough interest generated by the end of this week, then I'll start up the sign-up thread then, OK?

Seems like a good time to me to start it. We'll be looking to ride the Phillies coattails!

I'm interested

Interesting Q i told you about it ,like two days ago. Tged you at least. Anyways i may have started one when i originally entered the WBC, but that was a long time ago and there was no interest in a discussion thread really.

Myedvedeya is interested

The phillies suck. I'd appreciate it if you never mention them in this thread again.

The Phillies rock, and since its an official world Baseball Classic discussion thread we can mention them whenever we want.

The Phillies rock, and since its an official world Baseball Classic discussion thread we can mention them whenever we want.

The Phillies do not rock. In 100+ years have existence, they have only won two WS titles. By comparison, a team in the same division, the Florida Marlins have won the same amount in only 14 years of existence.

And no...you can't. It's the NS WBC. So we should talk about NS baseball, not MLB.

The Phillies do not rock. In 100+ years have existence, they have only won two WS titles. By comparison, a team in the same division, the Florida Marlins have won the same amount in only 14 years of existence.
the man makes a valid point right there.
KJO will send a team, tg me with more info

Yes well we get that. And really the Discussion threads of ns sports have always been all over the place. And K Q said hed start a Sign Up thread if there was enough interest by friday,. So hold tight.

I would like to express my interest in participating in ALL THINGS BASEBALL!

go Red Sox.

Yes well we get that. And really the Discussion threads of ns sports have always been all over the place. And K Q said hed start a Sign Up thread if there was enough interest by friday,. So hold tight.

i shall not move from my seat until there is a sign up thread lol

Well, im interested as well, and

THE BLUE JAYS ROCK:D

The WBC IX signup thread will be up on Friday around 11pm EST. I will not be hosting.

Well obviously since your hosing the World Bowl

Then who shall?

Well im sure the cantidates are Newmanistan, Liventia/LE, Green Wombat, and Az-CZ who hasnt competed in a while. Kp could make a return to the WBC and host. I know it wont be me or a first timer. Thats what i can tell you.

Well im sure the cantidates are Newmanistan, Liventia/LE, Green Wombat, and Az-CZ who hasnt competed in a while. Kp could make a return to the WBC and host. I know it wont be me or a first timer. Thats what i can tell you.

We'll certainly participate, but I will not be making a bid to host. Just to let you and others be aware.

I wasnt really thinkof you as a real option myself as you just hosted the last one it would be kinda boring to go there again.

yeah, I don't want anybody to host B2B editons like I did (WBC's 4-5)

Well, we need a host.

If you couldn't get someone with more experience, we could host it.

Viable option.

Just as long as we get it started.

I'm willing to host again if need be.

The Signup thread for WBC9 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=573015).

Is there an official President of the World Baseball Classic like there is the World Cup?

I try not take this stuff too seriously but I can’t help but think I am being completely screwed over right now. Originally, we were randomly drawn into a game against Taeshan. We were told that it was a random draw and the random draw created these results.

Then we are told by the host that “I forgot to seed”. But he didn’t seed and re-draw. He simply moved a couple games around. This is what ticks me off. We, as the #10 ranked team, are the team that’s chosen to be moved. And I use the word chosen because that’s exactly what it was. There was no re-draw with the seeds. It was a case of needing to find a better opponent for Zwangzug. This isn't about being fair. This is about playing a favorite. There were plenty of unranked teams in this that could have picked instead. Not the #10 ranked team.

As the #10 ranked team, we should be the higher seed in our pairing. Not playing the #2, are you kidding me?!?! Again I re-emphasize that we were NOT RANDOMLY DRAWN into this pair. WE WERE THE TEAM CHOSEN TO MOVED BE INTO IT. Perhaps Liventia didn’t realize we had a decent rank ourselves when he moved the pair. That’s fine. That’s where you admit it and re-shuffle things again.

This is the schedule of 11 pairs based on rank only:

1) #9 vs unranked
2) #2 vs #10 (tied)
3) #10 (tied) vs #15
4) #16 vs #3
5) #6 vs unranked
6) unranked vs #1
7) unranked vs #5
8) unranked vs unranked- Are you f&%$ing kidding me here?!?!
9) #8 vs #23
10) #19 (tie) vs #4
11) #7 vs #19 (tie)

Again, this was NOT a random draw. Originally, we were playing Taeshan. If we were randomly drawn into that and #2 and #3 had to play each other, then that was fair. But #2 and #3 were separated and moved NOT redrawn. #2 was moved to play us. Why us? There are two unranked opponents going head to head. Are you kidding me? Since we are moving a game around, why isn’t #2 and #3 moved to play those teams?

We have earned this #10 ranking due to active participation in the last two World Baseball Classics. A preliminary round exit will be devastating to our rankings.

If the World Baseball Classic President does not step in and change this, because again, we WERE NOT RANDOMLY DRAWN into our pair, then you will never see Secristan in a World Baseball Classic again. Look at this from my perspective, please. You would be pretty upset too. If there is a President of any authority then he needs to address this and order a postponement of this fixture, plus the Myedvedeya-Rennidan fixture the opponent that Zwangzug should have CHOSEN (and I don't use this word by accident) into getting, the Milchama- Bluth Corporation fixture, since Milchama should have been CHOSEN to get the other of those unranked teams, and perhaps the Jeruselem-Taeshan fixture to balance things out.

Sorry all, but I am very upset about this. If this was the real world, there would be a lawsuit.

Come on Sec, First Off you would rather play me. ???????????????????????????
Second yes unranked vs unranked is wrong
Third there may need to be some changes such as the one above. I myself would have done it 1 Vs the last unrkaned randomly drawing the unranked into an order. Then two vs second, but its a little late.

Come on Sec, First Off you would rather play me. ???????????????????????????
Second yes unranked vs unranked is wrong
Third there may need to be some changes such as the one above. I myself would have done it 1 Vs the last unrkaned randomly drawing the unranked into an order. Then two vs second, but its a little late.

I randomly drew you. Not an ideal matchup either I recognize but it was a fair matchup because everyone was randomly drawn so I could live with it.

I was selected to be moved out of that matchup so that Zwangzug and Milchama wouldn't play. My major gripe is that why was I selected when you have a matchup between unrankeds still happening. It might be fair to assume that Liventia didn't realize I was top ten, but when I brought it to his attention, he could have made another change. I am not playing a randomly drawn opponent. I am playing an arbitrarily selected opponent when there was a more obvious change that could have been if he didn't want Zwangzug vs Milchama.

It is not too late. No games have occurred yet.

Why didn't we just take the top 11 seeds and randomly draw their opponents to begin with?

Do you know how I chose to seed? No, I didn't think so. Seeding doesn't always mean pairing a top team against a weaker team. If you have proof that I selectively changed matchups I'd like to see it.

Get off it and move on or you can choose to quit the tournament. I'm not changing anything at this point.

I don't appreciate being accused of something I didn't do and for which I'm putting time and effort into. So as I said, you can choose to quit if you're not happy.

No reason to quit the tournament I am well aware that I have committed suicide to have success at this point. No one is being accused of anything they didn't do which is why I have sent a request for moderators to pull the original version of the scheduled matchups and to post them here. Ask and you shall receive.

Stop whining, plz.

No reason to quit the tournament I am well aware that I have committed suicide to have success at this point. No one is being accused of anything they didn't do which is why I have sent a request for moderators to pull the original version of the scheduled matchups and to post them here. Ask and you shall receive.

I didn't ask for proof I changed the matchups, I've already said that's the case. I want proof, as you claim, that I did so selectively.

In any case, as I think I've made it clear above, I'm not changing the matchups.

Matchday 1 scores are now available and posted in the main WBC thread.

Well that's a fine kettle of crap.

Firstly: Secristan, I'm the president emiritus of the WBC.

Secondly: There's not much I can do. I can't ORDER Liventia to re-do the draw again or return it to how it was. I'm not a moderator or a Jolt Forum tech.

Thirdly: Since Liventia was the only person who volunteered to host, (I couldn't due to World Bowl IV and Oxen Cup IX, Green wombat (my brother, BTW) is working too much lately, and Newmanistan just hosted the previous one (and I don't wanna have back-to-back hosts unless there's no option); we have to go with his decisions on how it is hosted.

Fourthly: As far as I've seen Liventia didn't do any thing wrong, and provided a reasonable explanation.

Well, let's just play the games. Being a region-mate of Secristan I can say this is about as upset as I have seen him but what's done is done. Hosting a competition is never easy, and the tradeoff between what would have been a game with Taeshan or Zwanzug, given their ranking points really would not have been different. Secristan, please chill and please reconsider your decision to "quit" the WBC.

By the way, look who won.

Guys, calm down.

I've discussed it privately with both Liventia and Secristan...there's no need to make anything more public than it has to be, and there's certainly no need for anyone else to be inflaming the situation.

I'm sure Liventia and Secristan will be reasonable after they've had a chance to cool down, and can recognize that while the accusations are certainly uncalled for (not to mention nonsensical--after all, if Liventia had really wanted to manipulate the outcome it would have been much easier and much more reliable just to lie about what the scorinator said for the games), Secristan's concerns are fundamentally legitimate and understandable as is the substance (if not the manner) of Liventia's response.

Jeruselem can't complain, we'll get beaten by anyone we draw with. :p

Hm. Either my bench players filed for free agency, or someone is really, really lazy. Not to mention lacking a bit of class.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9274/omfgvv1.png (http://imageshack.us)


For anyone that doesn't get it, it's an almost EXACT copy of my bench players. All he did was change their bats/throws selection....:rolleyes:

Copy of my roster:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14279589&postcount=14

Probably copied the format of your roster and forgot to change the names.

Well, technically they could be the same people, but from a different dimension... right?

Well, technically they could be the same people, but from a different dimension... right?

....:eek2:

Hm. Either my bench players filed for free agency, or someone is really, really lazy. Not to mention lacking a bit of class.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9274/omfgvv1.png (http://imageshack.us)


For anyone that doesn't get it, it's an almost EXACT copy of my bench players. All he did was change their bats/throws selection....:rolleyes:

Copy of my roster:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14279589&postcount=14

Whoops, I knew I forgot to change something ... I copied your roster, started changing it but forgot to change it at one point. Actually the error was not picked up from the last WBC. Sorry!

I was changing all the players about and must have forgetten to change the bench players.

Offically (ic'ly), the WBC Hall of Fame is closed due to lack of funding.
(ooc'ly, No one was using it :()

hey i was.

Hey I had interest! Quite a bit actually, just wasn't eligible for anyone yet.

Empress Jessica is prepared to make a financial payment for the museum and its artifacts to be moved to Pocono City where it can continue to be maintained.

Yes some of the teams just aren't around enough to make entries, and others that are in to it right now dont have spots. There should also be ways to vote in special things, and if theres an rp about something cool happenign it should be put in like if there was this big shutout or something with big stuff.

If you all still want one, Go ahead. (I had the "original one" up for over 6 months and other than myself and taeshan, no-one did anything, I'll undo the edit.)

Which I cannot do, 'cuase its been deleted :p so you'll have to start it form scratch. SORRY all :(

I also had an interest, but like they said, I didn't have the spots to enshrine anyone.

If you all still want one, Go ahead. (I had the "original one" up for over 6 months and other than myself and taeshan, no-one did anything, I'll undo the edit.)

Which I cannot do, 'cuase its been deleted :p so you'll have to start it form scratch. SORRY all :(

:mad:

That sucks! You are penalized one World Bowl Hall of fame spot. ;)

I can undelete it for you. Just post a note on my talk page (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/User_talk:Kmweber) and let me know what the original page title was.

EDIT: scratch that, already found it and restored it for you. http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/WBC_Hall_of_Fame

gracias, Bluth.

um question Q. the spot were it says earned in WBC 8 does that mean i now have 4 spots, or is that already added. Also what are the spots earned so far in this one.

um question Q. the spot were it says earned in WBC 8 does that mean i now have 4 spots, or is that already added. Also what are the spots earned so far in this one.

You have 3 spots total.

As for WBC 9, depends on how well you do. you might earn another 1.

Everyone who has been around since WBC 4 is in (meaning Lovisa) as is Newmanistan. Once again the others depend on how well you do.

I apologize for my lack of participation after the preliminary games. This time of year is really busy at my work (what economic slowdown?! None here!) but it will die down after Christmas. Also apologies to Liventia for causing a ruckus some of which was probably motivated from stress at real-life work. I can see that the competition was well hosted and wish both finalists good luck.

Whenever it's possible, can someone post the new team rankings? I'm interested in seeing if the Nordics have moved up on it at all.

Whenever it's possible, can someone post the new team rankings? I'm interested in seeing if the Nordics have moved up on it at all.

We don't post them until after the WBC is completed, usually. But Zwangzug, as they have the rankings.

Here you have 'em. Congratulations Qazox, Tocrowkia, everybody else who deserves them, and *insert appropriate late-December greetings here*. Got all my bases covered yet? ;)

1. Qazox 4.9460784
2. Newmanistan 4.2303922
3. Taeshan 3.6372549
4. Tocrowkia 2.8921569
5. Zwangzug 2.8235294
6. Liventia 2.4019608
7. Green wombat 2.1862745
8. Prux 1.9950980
9. Milchama 1.7352941
10. Yafor 2 1.3431373
11. Bluth Corporation 1.2843137
12. Secristan 1.2254902
13. Rennidan 1.0000000
14. The Indonesian States 0.4264706
15. Lovisa 0.3921569
16. Mallatarsland 0.3529412
17. Cassadaigua 0.3333333
Rainere 0.3333333
19. Xaristan 0.2941176
20. Kenavt 0.2254902
21. Jeruselem 0.1666667
Swilatia 0.1666667
Greal 0.1666667
24. Ma Raque 0.1176471
Miroxia 0.1176471
26. Kosovoe 0.0833333
27. Ben snavely 0.0588235
Mantwenic 0.0588235
29. Idanno/Colbourne/Myedvedeya/the rest of the world 0

Hey, nice, top half.

Anyone have any thoughts on when the next one should be scheduled?

in about two months i bet. No less then one probally

Soon, I hope. =D

Not until after the Next World Cup AND The 4th Winter Olympics. (I'm thinking just before the RL WBC starts.)

IC: To commemorate The Nordics 3rd Place Finish, the Major League Baseball Federation & The Reich Athletic Ministry have three new uniform designs (home, away and alternate) to be worn at the World Baseball Classic 10.

((OOC: I'm really just looking for comments on these unis I made. And since WBC 10 is a little ways off, what else do you have to do? :p ))

Home:
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh339/Reichtober/homeuni1.png

Away:
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh339/Reichtober/roaduni1.png

Alternate:
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh339/Reichtober/altuni1.png

IC: To commemorate The Nordics 3rd Place Finish, the Major League Baseball Federation & The Reich Athletic Ministry have three new uniform designs (home, away and alternate) to be worn at the World Baseball Classic 10.



They look good.

Any Chance that you perhaps could make some for Qazox?

yeah any chance you could make more

I could certainly give it a try. Just tell me what colors you want for the uniform primary, what name/number you want on the back, and what logo you'd like on the hat.

I myself would like the following

Home all purple everwhere with just Snow White Trim. And the Purple Knight logo seen on our soccer jerseys at this sight(hat Gold with purple Knight)
http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/w/images/2/24/Taeshan_home_kit.jpg

Away will be an all purple jersey with a golden trim. A Blue hat with a gold rider

Alternate a Golden Purple Pinstripe jeresy with a purple hat with gold rider.

For Qazox,


Home: Red for the shirt, White QAZOX with Gold Trim and White pants with Red Trim.
Away: White for the shirt, a Gold QAZOX with Red trim and White pants with gold trim.
Alternate: Red Shirt, Gold QAZOX with white trim and White pants with Gold trim.
HAT: White hat with a Red Q.

Qazox, here are yours. Since you didn't specify the name/number you wanted on the jersey, I took some liberty, hope you don't mind. Tae, yours are coming up soon.

Home (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh339/Reichtober/qazoxhome1.png)
Away (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh339/Reichtober/qazoxaway1.png)
Alternate (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh339/Reichtober/qazoxalt1.png)

THANKS. They look very good.

If at all possible, could I get one of the scorinators used for any of the WBCs? I'd just like to mess around with it, and see how a scorinator works.

WBC President/Dictator ANNOUNCEMENT!

It is about that time of year again.
When winter begins to dump massive amounts of snow, where warmer climes start to offer lucrative travel packages and the first crack of a bat sounds somewhere.

That's right, it is time for.. the WBC TEN sign-up thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580320)! (which is now linked to!)

So Toc when you gonna have my jerseys ready. I'll need them for my roster post

Your unis are on my other computer, which isn't working at the moment. However, I'll try my best to re-do them before the tourney stars.

So, where do we post the rosters for the WBC?

So, where do we post the rosters for the WBC?

Once the host has been chosen, and they create the WBC 10 thread, it goes there.

WBC10 Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14483800#post14483800)

OFFICE OF WBC PRESIDENT
Mr. Alex Roger Bonds

Re: Officiating of the Green Wombat- Newmanistan Game, Matchday 8 of World Baseball Classic 10 and other incidents this World Baseball Classic.

After reviewing the game footage, and talking with the head of umpiring, Mr. Raymond Charles; the Office of the WBC President has decide to take the following actions all effective immediately:

Action 1: The Taeshani umpiring crew who were in charge of the Green Wombat- Newmanistan Game shall be suspended for the remainder of the tourney, without pay, and are being sent home.

Action 2a: Starting with the World Baseball Classic 10 playoffs, each team's manager will be allowed ONE replay challenge per 9 innings to challenge a questionable call. In the event of an extra inning game, the Home plate umpire shall use, at his/her discretion, the replay on any questionable calls. The length review of the challenge shall not last longer than 90 seconds.
Action 2b: The ONLY challengable calls that can be reviewed shall be the following:
a: Fan Interference.
b: Fair/Foul calls of homeruns and balls hit down the foullines.
c: Clearing of the yellow line of homeruns.
d: Plays at the plate involving dropped balls and runners touching the plate.
Action 2c: The following calls SHALL NOT be eligible to be reviewed:
a: Entrapment of a flyball.
b: Touching of a base during double-plays.
c: Calls at ANY base involving: Tagging up, steals, or if a runner touches the base before the ball is caught for an out at ANY base.
d: Balks

Action 3: Any player(s), manager(s) or other team personel ejected from a WBC game for fighting will be subject to the following penalties:
a: 1st offense: 2 game suspension.
b: 2nd offense: 5 game suspension.
c: 3rd offense: suspended for remainder of current tourney plus first 2 games of the subsequent WBC.
d: 4th offense: lifetime ban from participating in the WBC, or coaching in WBC.

Action 4a: Umpiring crews will be reviewed after every day of games, rather than one every week for the following:
a: Accuracy of balls and strikes.
b: Control of game (i.e.: Not allowing fights, limiting hit-batters, speed of play, etc.)
c: Limiting officiating errors.

Action 4b: Any umpiring crew that recieves a failing grade after any day of games, excepting the final day of the WBC tourney, shall be suspended for 2 days of play, and subject to fines totaling no more than $1000.00 (payable to any suitable host nation charity). If the umpiring crew of the final day of the tourney recieves a failing grade, they shall be suspended for the next WBC tourney for 2 days of play, and also subject to fines totaling no more than $1000.00.

Action 5: Any manager or player ejected from a WBC game will be subject to fines totaling NO more than $500.00 of their nations' national currency (payable by that nations' Baseball Federation also to any suitable host nation charity). Any subsequent ejection shall result in a 1-game suspension and an additional $250.00 fine. Additional ejections beyond the 2nd ejection, will result in an additional game added to the suspension and an additional $250.00 fine. (ie: a played is ejected for a 3rd time, the supsension is for 2 games and the fine is $1000.00). The suspensions will carry over into the next WBC, if need be.


Action 3 note: No players from the incident during the Green Wombat- Newmanistan Game shall be affected by this penalty, as they have been dealt with by their own federations.

Signed:
AlexRogerBonds

(ooc: This is an IC post, but by the 'WBC President', which I am, technically, as no one has asked that I step down or decided they want the job)

Green Wombat: Given that he has pitched 18 scoreless innings against us, several Newmanistanian teams are interested in offering top dollar to Eric Catalano. Would he be willing to come over?

This was tried in the WCDT and it proved to be impossible, but for the WBC it's not!

The UNOFFICAL WORLD CHAMPIONS list

After the conclusion of the 1st WBC, Az-cz became the de-facto World Champions. The Unoffical World Champions list follows the premise that if a Champion loses a game, then the team that beat them are the "World Champions", unoffically of course.

So a listing of the UNOFFICAL WORLD CHAMPIONS will be made and completed before the conclusion of WBC 10 and posted here and on the Wiki.

(this is just for fun, as to see who the divergence of the UWC from the WBC champion)

If for some reason a team had the UWC and didn't compete in the next WBC (very unlikely, but possible); then the subsequent WBC champions would assume the UWC title.

Well, that was pretty disappointing. :/

Well, that was pretty disappointing. :/

All things considering, a top 4 finish isn't bad... you could have been 2-time defending champs and lost in the quarters! LOL!

I've all ready been in the top four. I wanted something more this time around. It kind of (well, really) sucks to not really make any progress this time.

I've all ready been in the top four. I wanted something more this time around. It kind of (well, really) sucks to not really make any progress this time.

Soryy but i guess Margaret just didn't like you enough this time around.

Out of NS/OOC: just had my ESPN MLB draft tonight and here's my team. Just wondering what ya'll baseball fans think:

C: Brian McCann (ATL)
1B: Justin Morneau (MIN)
2B: Dustin Pedroia (BOS) (M-V-P! M-V-P! LOL)
SS: Jhonny Peralta (CLE)
3B: Melvin Mora (BAL)
OF: Jayson Werth (PHI)
OF: Garret Anderson (ATL)
OF: Ryan Ludwick (StL)
Util: Cristian Guzman (WAS) SS
Bench: J.J. Hardy, (MIL) SS
Bench: Hank Blalock (TEX) 1B/3B
Bench: Pat Burrell (TB) OF/DH
Bench: Delmon Young (MIN) OF
Bench: Jorge Cantu (FLA) 1B/3B

SP: CC Sabathia (NYY) (1st yankee i've ever taken, and my #1 pick)
SP: Cole Hamels (PHI)
SP: Jon Lester (BOS)
SP: Matt Garza (TB)
SP: David Price (TB) got him in 22nd round, a steal, I think.
RP: Joel Zumaya (DET)
RP: Brandon Lyon (DET)
RP: Mike Gonzalez (ATL)
RP: Kevin Gregg (Cubs)
RP: Salomon Torres (MIL)
RP: Troy Percival (TB)

My opinion: Great 1-2-3 starters, good BA lineup, a bit weak on the HR, good RBI, decent steals, and bullpen could be great.

Soryy but i guess Margaret just didn't like you enough this time around.
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What?

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I've all ready been in the top four. I wanted something more this time around. It kind of (well, really) sucks to not really make any progress this time.

Now you know how I feel in failing to qualifying for the World Cup five times in a row especially when you feel you have been stagnant for three. Always sucks to lose early but remember at late stages of tournaments you're running into opponents in similar predicaments.

What?

It just came down to the randomness of the numbers. In the World Cup we'd call that "That's margaret doing something to you."

Seriously, it was just the random factors within the scorination. That's how upsets happen. If it weren't for those, odds are it would be Qazox vs. Zwangzug in the WBC Finals with you or Newmanistan or Taeshan (any combo of those 3) in the 3rd place series, just using ranks.

I do have to have a random factor within the formula I use to ensure a fairer result or else every top ranked RPing team would probably defeat an unranked non-RPing team 20-0 everytime and it would unfairly influence RPing low ranked teams over Non-RPing high-ranked teams.

Usually in the playoffs i re-sim the entire playoffs AFTER the WBC with different values for each team's Random # (different than the one for each game) and about 60% of the time, the team that won a series, still would win that series, though the runs in each game would be vastly different.

I'm sorry that you didn't do as well as you expected to or hoped to, but there is one consolation, odds are with Qazox's early flame out, the rankings for the next WBC will probably be very different than the ones before this WBC.

Not that this is an upset. You were the 4 seed, I was the 2 and we both RP'd frequently. ;)

It's not that I'm complaining how the scorinator works, because I'm not. I've always found the WBC scorinator systems to be one of the better ones in Sports RP (Especially compared to the IBC one, where I made the play-offs without even RPing. Or the World Bowl, where no comment is really necessary), but maybe in the future there should be a "streak" bonus. I mean, a 2004 ALCS would be pretty much impossible with the current system. Something to factor in momentum and "hot" and "cold" factors.

Logically (As in, what I expected to do) I suppose my team performed above and beyond what I could have asked. I mean, I am in the final four again. Emotionally (As in, what I hoped to do) it is still a very disappointing end.

But I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining because I'm not. At least I don't mean to be.. It's just not been a good day and this wasn't a good way to cap it off.

It's not that I'm complaining how the scorinator works, because I'm not. I've always found the WBC scorinator systems to be one of the better ones in Sports RP (Especially compared to the IBC one, where I made the play-offs without even RPing. Or the World Bowl, where no comment is really necessary), but maybe in the future there should be a "streak" bonus. I mean, a 2004 ALCS would be pretty much impossible with the current system. Something to factor in momentum and "hot" and "cold" factors.

Logically (As in, what I expected to do) I suppose my team performed above and beyond what I could have asked. I mean, I am in the final four again. Emotionally (As in, what I hoped to do) it is still a very disappointing end.

But I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining because I'm not. At least I don't mean to be.. It's just not been a good day and this wasn't a good way to cap it off.

I didn't take it to mean you were complaining.

Here it is the OFFICAL List of Unoffical World Champions (in baseball)

Teams in BOLD won WBC as UWC, # in italics= number of times team was UWC.
LIST OF UWC Champions

Az-cz (WBC1 champions- WBC3 MD1) 17 games
Taeshan (WBC3 MD1- MD2) 1 game
Quakmybush (WBC3 MD2- MD3) 1 game
Kura-Pelland (WBC3 MD3- MD5) 2 games
Az-cz 2 (WBC3 MD5- WBC4 MD2) 7 games
Quakmybush 2(WBC4 MD2- MD3) 1 game
Lovisa (WBC4 MD3- MD4) 1 game
Mallatarsland (WBC4 MD4- MD8) 4 games
Vanek Drury Brieres (WBC4 MD8- MD9) 1 Game
Az-cz 3 (WBC4 MD9- QF Game 2) 2 games
Vephrall (WBC4 QF Game 2- SF Game 1) 2 games
Milchama (WBC4 SF Game 1- SF Game 2) 1 game
Vephrall 2 (WBC4 SF Game 2- SF Game 3) 1 game
Milchama 2 (WBC4 SF Game 1- WBC5 SF Game1) 9 games
Taeshan 2 (WBC5 SF Game1 - SF Game 2) 1 game
Milchama 3 (WBC5 SF Game 2- WBC6 SF Game 1) 11 games
Qazox (WBC6 SF Game 1- WBC7 MD5) 9 Games
Zwangzug (WBC7 MD5- SF Game 1) 5 Games
Qazox 2 (WBC7 SF Game 1- WBC7 game 2) 1 Game
Zwangzug 2 (WBC7 SF Game 2- Finals Game 2) 3 games
Newmanistan (WBC7 Finals Game 2- Finals Game 3) 1 game
Zwangzug 3 (WBC7 Finals Game 3- Finals Game 4) 1 games
Newmanistan 2 (WBC7 Finals Game 4- Finals Game 5) 1 game
Zwangzug 4 (WBC7 Finals Game 5- WBC8 MD2) 2 games
Green wombat (WBC8 MD2- MD7) 4 games
Zwangzug 5 (WBC8 MD7- QF Game 1) 3 games
Newmanistan 3 (WBC8 QF Game 1- Game 2) 1 game
Zwangzug 6 (WBC8 QF Game 2- Game 3) 1 game
Newmanistan 4 (WBC8 QF Game 3- SF Game 1) 1 game
Milchama 4 (WBC8 SF Game 1- SF Game 2) 1 game
Newmanistan 5 (WBC8 SF Game 2- SF Game 3) 1 game
Milchama 5 (WBC8 SF Game 3- Finals Game 1) 2 games
Qazox 3 (WBC8 Finals Game 1- Finals Game 3) 2 games
Milchama 6 (WBC8 Finals Game 3- Finals Game 5) 2 games
Qazox 4 (WBC8 Finals Game 5- WBC9 MD2) 5 games
Liventia (WBC9 MD2- MD3) 1 game
Zwangzug 7 (WBC9 MD3- MD5) 2 games
Tocrowkia (WBC9 MD5- 3rd Place Game 1) 1 game
Taeshan 3 (WBC9 3rd Place Game 1 - 3rd Place Game 2) 1 game
Tocrowkia 2 (WBC9 3rd Place Game 2- WBC10 QF Game 1) 13 games
Sarzonia (WBC10 QF Game 1- QF Game 2) 1 game
Tocrowkia 3 (WBC10 QF Game 2- WBC10 SF Game 1) 2 games
Newmanistan 6 (WBC10 SF Game 1- SF Game 2) 1 game
Tocrowkia 4 (WBC10 SF Game 2- SF Game 3) 1 game
Newmanistan 7 (WBC10 SF Game 3- WBC10 Finals Game 1) 1 game
Secristan (WBC10 Finals Game 1- Finals Game 2) 1 game
Newmanistan 8 (WBC10 Finals Game 2- active) ??? (CURRENT UWC)


Other UWC Facts:
Longest streaks as UWC:
Only a team's longest streak and only streaks of longer than 2 games are considered.


17 games: Az-cz (WBC1 champions- WBC3 MD1)
13 Games: Tocrowkia (WBC9 3rd Place Game 2- WBC10 QF Game 1)
11 games: Milchama (WBC5 SF Game 2- WBC6 SF Game 1)
9 games: Qazox (WBC6 SF Game 1- WBC7 MD5)
5 games: Zwangzug (WBC7 MD5- SF Game 1)
4 games: Mallatarsland (WBC4 MD4- MD8) and Green Wombat (WBC8 MD2- MD7


Most times as UWC:

8- Newmanistan
7- Zwangzug
6- Milchama
4- Qazox and Tocrowkia
3- Az-cz and Taeshan
2- Vephrall and Quakmybush


Most Games as UWC
Mininum 2 reigns or 3 games as UWC.

26 games: Az-cz in 3 reigns
26 games: Milchama in 6 reigns.
17 games: Qazox in 4 reigns
17 games: Tocrowkia in 4 reigns
17 games: Zwangzug in 6 reigns
9+ games: Newmanistan in 8 reigns (Current UWC)
4 games: Mallatarsland in 1 reign.
4 games: Green wombat in 1 reign.
3 games: Vephrall in 2 reigns
3 games: Taeshan in 3 reigns.
2 games: Quakmybush in 2 reigns.

Wikipage for the UWC (http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/Unoffical_World_Champions)

Soryy but i guess Margaret just didn't like you enough this time around.

Out of NS/OOC: just had my ESPN MLB draft tonight and here's my team. Just wondering what ya'll baseball fans think:

C: Brian McCann (ATL)
1B: Justin Morneau (MIN)
2B: Dustin Pedroia (BOS) (M-V-P! M-V-P! LOL)
SS: Jhonny Peralta (CLE)
3B: Melvin Mora (BAL)
OF: Jayson Werth (PHI)
OF: Garret Anderson (ATL)
OF: Ryan Ludwick (StL)
Util: Cristian Guzman (WAS) SS
Bench: J.J. Hardy, (MIL) SS
Bench: Hank Blalock (TEX) 1B/3B
Bench: Pat Burrell (TB) OF/DH
Bench: Delmon Young (MIN) OF
Bench: Jorge Cantu (FLA) 1B/3B

SP: CC Sabathia (NYY) (1st yankee i've ever taken, and my #1 pick)
SP: Cole Hamels (PHI)
SP: Jon Lester (BOS)
SP: Matt Garza (TB)
SP: David Price (TB) got him in 22nd round, a steal, I think.
RP: Joel Zumaya (DET)
RP: Brandon Lyon (DET)
RP: Mike Gonzalez (ATL)
RP: Kevin Gregg (Cubs)
RP: Salomon Torres (MIL)
RP: Troy Percival (TB)

My opinion: Great 1-2-3 starters, good BA lineup, a bit weak on the HR, good RBI, decent steals, and bullpen could be great.

Your rotation is outstanding. Price will be an interesting person to track all year. The bullpen is good but injury prone, picking a couple people I wouldn't touch, but still it has potential. Offensively, as you say, you are sacrificing the long ball but should be able to make up for it in other important categories, like BA. Unless this is an unusually small league, I would have to consider you a contender.

I haven't played fantasy baseball (or fantasy anything else) since 2006 though. Used to be addicted to it but just starting getting tired of it!

Im quite mad at this time arounds results, but i had a good long run of 6 straight final four apperances and i find it quite funny that every time i win the UWC i hand it right back the next game and its kinda cool that i was the second team ever to have it.

Your rotation is outstanding. Price will be an interesting person to track all year. The bullpen is good but injury prone, picking a couple people I wouldn't touch, but still it has potential. Offensively, as you say, you are sacrificing the long ball but should be able to make up for it in other important categories, like BA. Unless this is an unusually small league, I would have to consider you a contender.

I haven't played fantasy baseball (or fantasy anything else) since 2006 though. Used to be addicted to it but just starting getting tired of it!

10 team league
Catergories:
Batting: BA, HR, RBI, R, SB
Pitching: IP, ERA, K, BB, SV

*Whistles and waits for the new rankings*

Ask Zwangzug for them. They'll be up sooner or later.

As for WBC XI, It shouldn't start until late-April/Early May at the earliest (as not to conflict with the current WC and possibly the current WC of Hockey).

IF any nation(s) feels/feel like having 'friendlies" or mini-tourneys go right ahead and post the results here.

*Whistles and waits for the new rankings*

Let us celebrate first! :)



Ask Zwangzug for them. They'll be up sooner or later.

As for WBC XI, It shouldn't start until late-April/Early May at the earliest (as not to conflict with the current WC and possibly the current WC of Hockey).


May sounds good. My thought for World Bowl VI by the way is around draft time, which is late April.

I didn't even say anything about WBC 11...o.o

Yadda yadda yadda, don't use too many decimals if you don't need 'em.

1. Newmanistan 4.7916667
2. Tocrowkia 4.4166667
3. Qazox 4.2083333
4. Taeshan 3.5833333
5. Zwangzug 3.4000000
6. Secristan 3.3833333
7. Green wombat 2.7166667
8. Liventia 2.2833333
9. Milchama 2.1500000
10. Sarzonia 2.0000000
11. Prux 1.9916667
12. Yafor 2 1.5833333
Bluth Corporation 1.5833333
14. Cassadaigua 1.5666667
15. kenavt 0.6833333
16. Colbourne 0.6000000
San Castello 0.6000000
18. Lovisa 0.5666667
19. Rennidan 0.5000000
20. Cookesland 0.4000000
Tree Hugging Lesbians 0.4000000
22. Greal 0.2833333
23. Lurikastan 0.2000000
Patetopia 0.2000000
25. Rainere 0.1666667
26. The Indonesian States 0.1250000
27. Jeruselem 0.0833333
Swilatia 0.0833333
29. Kosovoe 0.0416667
30. Mantwenic and the rest of the world 0

Qazox, how many hall of fame spots do I have to give out?

Qazox, how many hall of fame spots do I have to give out?

Just was gonna ask the same question, LOL.

Look at the page and figure it out it is not that hard

Just look here: http://wikistates.outwardhosting.com/wiki/WBC_Hall_of_Fame

Using the criteria:

Newmanistan has 2 berths
Tocrowkia has a berth.
Green wombat has a berth.
Miclhama gets yet another berth as does Zwangzug and Qazox.
Secristan gets a berth.
Lovisa now has a berth.
Liventia/LE get one more berth as well

(ICly Qazox considers the WBCHoF closed, but OOC it's still open)

Yadda yadda yadda, don't use too many decimals if you don't need 'em.

1. Newmanistan 4.7916667
2. Tocrowkia 4.4166667
3. Qazox 4.2083333
4. Taeshan 3.5833333
5. Zwangzug 3.4000000
6. Secristan 3.3833333
7. Green wombat 2.7166667
8. Liventia 2.2833333
9. Milchama 2.1500000
10. Sarzonia 2.0000000
11. Prux 1.9916667
12. Yafor 2 1.5833333
Bluth Corporation 1.5833333
14. Cassadaigua 1.5666667
15. kenavt 0.6833333
16. Colbourne 0.6000000
San Castello 0.6000000
18. Lovisa 0.5666667
19. Rennidan 0.5000000
20. Cookesland 0.4000000
Tree Hugging Lesbians 0.4000000
22. Greal 0.2833333
23. Lurikastan 0.2000000
Patetopia 0.2000000
25. Rainere 0.1666667
26. The Indonesian States 0.1250000
27. Jeruselem 0.0833333
Swilatia 0.0833333
29. Kosovoe 0.0416667
30. Mantwenic and the rest of the world 0

Wow. I expected to move up, by being the number 2 ranked team in the whole world? That's pretty good!

Now, if only we had a title...

Wow. I expected to move up, by being the number 2 ranked team in the whole world? That's pretty good!

Now, if only we had a title...

WBC XI maybe???

WBC XI maybe???

Hopefully...

*Imagines Nordics fans waving signs that read "It's gonna happen! (Well...maybe...)" in WBC XI*

I'm pretty happy with the No. 10 ranking, especially after making my WBC debut this time around.

Who knew Margaret followed baseball? :p

Holy buttpoop, twelfth despite sucking royal balls every time we've been in!

Hey don't give the Nordics any ideas, im supposed to be the next one to win it it after all i still have a few years till they can say they have had a better career in baseball then me.

Hey don't give the Nordics any ideas, im supposed to be the next one to win it it after all i still have a few years till they can say they have had a better career in baseball then me.

Since I'm not hosting #11, i have no idea who'll take it. (Crosses fingers than Dancougar don't sign up, or else he'd start dominating the WBC as well...) ;)

I doubt that'd happen right away. He'd have to build up some seniority first...and if he did, I'd know something screwy was up. :p

And uh-oh. This thread's been bumped after more than a month of inactivity you say? Oh well.

Speaking of which....
Signups for the 11th World Baseball Classic will be forthcoming.....

Thank god, i need to get back to some baseball. Need to beat someone up in the online universe. Maybe ill finally win it or make it back to the ship. Its all gone down since i last made it. Sigh.

I may very well be making my return to this after a very long hiatus. Lots more free time for me opening up next month, if I can just survive until then...

Crosses fingers than Dancougar don't sign up, or else he'd start dominating the WBC as well

We would like to call out Dancougar and challenge them to join WBC 11.
Let's add this to the rivalry. Don't be intimidated by us being #1. ;)

Yeah sure, why not join?

It's just another team whoms pitching staff Johnny Stryker will tear up.

(Crosses fingers than Dancougar don't sign up, or else he'd start dominating the WBC as well...) ;)

We would like to call out Dancougar and challenge them to join WBC 11.
Let's add this to the rivalry. Don't be intimidated by us being #1. ;)

Yeah sure, why not join?

It's just another team whoms pitching staff Johnny Stryker will tear up.

Ask and ye shall receive. Prepare to face the wrath of Doug Drabek's combo mullet-stache! Or more anime RPs. One or the other.

Ask and ye shall receive. Prepare to face the wrath of Doug Drabek's combo mullet-stache! Or more anime RPs. One or the other.

Or the bone-chilling sounds of We are Family every inning...:eek:

Or the bone-chilling sounds of We are Family every inning...:eek:

Sung by anthropomorphic pierogis?

This series of posts brings back bad memories and reminds me why I hate the Pirates almost as much as I hate the Skankees.

I myself hate the braves

I myself hate the braves

That's okay, I hate...damn near every team on the east coast that *isn't* the Braves. :p

And that's even starting to include the Natinals. (Gods, how far have we fallen if I'm actually having to start hating the frigging Gnats? :$)

Sung by anthropomorphic pierogis?

better them than a Parrot....

haha uniform malfunction

better them than a Parrot....

This is an ex-parrot! It's ceased to be!

I myself hate the braves

At least the Braves don't have 10,000 loses in their franchise history. And at least the Braves were never walked-off in a deciding game of the world series.

God, I hate the Phils.

Yeah, but who's better now. And anyways the Braves are probally gonna get their pretty fast.

so have mine/. toc itsnot that far fetched really.

I agree. The real-life WBC could be every year, especially if the MLB didn't do 162 regular-season games and there were more of a tradition of that kind of competition. I'm also of the opinion that, IC, the massive population figures in NS give each country that many more incredible athletes to choose from. I mean, if NS says a country has 5 billion people, that's like picking the 25 best, strongest, fastest, most athletic baseball players in the world on Earth. Fielding that kind of team as a default is simply mind-blowing.

Yeah, but who's better now. And anyways the Braves are probally gonna get their pretty fast.

A couple of successful seasons does not balance out over a century of utter failure. The Cubs and the Phils should really be expelled from MLB for stinking up the NL.

The Cubs have a winning record all-time, according to this page (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Chicago_Cubs_all_time_win-loss_record).

As for the Phillies, I'm sort of biased because I'm a Nats fan.

They still haven't won the World Series in over a century.

The Cubs have a winning record all-time, according to this page (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Chicago_Cubs_all_time_win-loss_record).


Yeah, but 8,000 of those wins came before 1908....:p:rolleyes: LOL (j/k Cubs fans...)

The Cubs have a winning record all-time, according to this page (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_Chicago_Cubs_all_time_win-loss_record).

Yeah, but so do the Pirates, so that doesn't mean much :-P

They still haven't won the World Series in over a century.

Who do you root for anyway? Toronto?
Only way I could understand all your reference to events of 1993 now easily forgotten after last October!

The Braves never could lose a World Series in walk off fashion. They were always losing in the playoffs prior to that.

I'd rather lose a World Series on a walk off HR then never have been in that World Series in the first place. Again that's old news now.

Oh man, 1993! Toronto! Joe Carter! There was this waitress at Hooters, and...

1993 won't be easily forgotten. I mean, it's up there was one of the greatest moments in in World Series history. I'm talking games like Larsen in 1956, the Mets in 1986...

Now if you mean the disappointment that Phillies fans felt, then yes, that can be forgotten.

Just so Zwanzug, Dancougar and Yafor 2 are aware, I'm suspending third baseman Kate Schmidt for three games, so don't include her in your RPs.

I haven't decided if Paulsen's going to keep Schmidt on the bench for the match against Qazox yet, so if Qazox RP's first, I'll let him decide if she plays or not.

The national squad features some surprise selections. Masami Tamagotchi, who featured as recently as yesterday in the national football team, will be the team's starting pitcher

Actually, for realistic RP, you kinda need 3-5 starting pitchers, who rotate from one game to the next. Pitching a game is extremely tiring and having just one starting pitcher would lead to career-ending arm injuries pretty quickly.

I loved your RP otherwise, BTW. I actually LOLd at "and then running like fuck".

Well, it depends how you RP the time elapsing between matches. If you decide to RP each matchday as being one day, then you need a five-man rotation. If you RP the matches as taking place once every three or four days or once per week, then you can get away with one starting pitcher.

Fluid time, how I love thee...

Actually, for realistic RP, you kinda need 3-5 starting pitchers, who rotate from one game to the next. Pitching a game is extremely tiring and having just one starting pitcher would lead to career-ending arm injuries pretty quickly.
My squad does have another starting pitcher, and I have 5 pitchers in total. Especially given they're not meant to be especially good, that doesn't seem too off-whack. But I will make up some more for later down the line.

Though really, if you start to apply realism to my RPing...

Three relief pitchers seems scant to me too, although, of course, that's the beauty of sports RP, you can do whatever you want...just trying to point out some things that come more naturally to those of us who have seen baseball on TV forever. Then again, maybe the Padres' irritating new-reliever-every-inning system is starting to rub off on me...

Hell, perhaps he signed Nick Swisher to bolster his bullpen. ;)

Ok, thanks for the advice, I've added some extra pitchers to my roster.

For the record, I have never used BitTorrent to download games from foreign sports I don't understand, and I wouldn't be able to instruct anyone who didn't know how to do it by PM. If I had done anything of the sort, I'm sure it would not have been helpful in making the concepts I had read on Wikipedia a little more concrete.

I have nine pitchers or so and most of my starters play at least 7 to 8 innings a game. With most of the relievers just coming in to get single outs, and only my closer playing a full inning most of the time with a setup trio kindoff. Actually it might just be 9 or 8.

The answer is that you have nigh-invincible high school girls who ignore fatigue.

Heck, dilate time in the other dimension and get workhorses from a century ago!

...Whatever works, works. :)

Now pitching for the Sarzonia Stars: Walter Johnson!

That has a nice ring to it. ;)

Maybe I'll bring Brooks Robinson in from an alternate dimension to spell Kate Schmidt at third. It'd serve the bitch right. :tongue:

Also, any opponents of mine who are listing home or away ballparks, I've given a fairly detailed description of Mountaineer Park in Woodstock here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14781115&postcount=22).

Will someone pleeeease include some Tocrowkian Umpries in their RPs? I've seen Liventian, Taeshani, Newmanistani, and Qazoxan umpries, but no Tocrowkians. :p

In due time, Tocrowkia. Believe me, your turn is coming soon. :p

Oh, and a Sarzonian umpire would be great, especially if you want a hard ass stickler for the rules. :tongue:

I have no idea were any Qazoxian umps are coming from....

Will someone pleeeease include some Tocrowkian Umpries in their RPs? I've seen Liventian, Taeshani, Newmanistani, and Qazoxan umpries, but no Tocrowkians. :p

I just used a Tocrowkian first base umpire in my latest RP. You might like what I had him do. ;)

Cat flu! I love it!

I just used a Tocrowkian first base umpire in my latest RP. You might like what I had him do. ;)

I did indeed. Thank you. :D

Scorination will be approx. two hours later then normal today. I could have done it early (as in now), but I'd rather not.

I thought the way you'd explained the format meant that a fourth place team that had a better record than one of the third place teams could advance.

I feel bad for Cassadaigua since she had a better record than Milchama did. Oh well. At least we'll get a continuation of the storied Stars-Warriors rivalries of the past.

I thought the way you'd explained the format meant that a fourth place team that had a better record than one of the third place teams could advance.

I feel bad for Cassadaigua since she had a better record than Milchama did. Oh well. At least we'll get a continuation of the storied Stars-Warriors rivalries of the past.

It does say pretty clearly that the top three teams from each group qualify, and I don't see any windows that left open that imply a 4th place team can get in somehow. That said, I do feel for Cassadaigua since this same exact thing happened to them in the last World Bowl. Just the way it goes and they had their moment on Milchama, certainly, in the World Cup.

I did assume that too, primarily because of the line that said the 8 and 9 seeds can be from the same group.

There will be 21 signups, which means three groups of seven. Top three in each group qualify. The "worst two" third place teams will have a one-game, winner-take-all showdown in Newmanistan to make the quarterfinals.



Group Winners will be seeded 1st through 3rd. From there, the remaining six teams will be seeded 4th-9th, making it possible that two teams from the same group *could* play in the 8-9 game.


This then referred to the seeding once those teams advanced. If say, the second and third place teams in group A both had worse records then the third place teams in Group B and Group C, then the two group A teams would play in the 8-9 game.

Actually I guess I can see where this could have been made clearer. It does say the "worst two" third place teams, though. I'd of thought that would have been enough.

If I may point it out, that's contradictory. It wouldn't be possible for the worst two third place teams to play each other if the 8th and 9th seeds were from different groups (and vice-versa). That's what really confused me.

If I may point it out, that's contradictory. It wouldn't be possible for the worst two third place teams to play each other if the 8th and 9th seeds were from different groups (and vice-versa). That's what really confused me.

Looking at it that way, you are right. I apologize for that, I didn't consider this interpretation when I wrote it up.

I want to be sure now that everyone is ok with who is in the 8-9 game now based on this interpretation (shades of WBC 7 isn't it?). I'd like to hear from Cassadaigua on this, although from their RP's it seemed as if they knew they had to finish third.

This bugs me the more I think about this. What would the thought be of a "playoff" between Milchama and Cassadaigua tomorrow, and then the 8-9 game between Sarzonia and that winner. (I can push the rest of the schedule back a day and do an AM and late PM scorination on June 5th, if needed)

I'm for it.

Well, technically, that would be a 9 v. 10 match before a 8 vs. 9 or 10. And Cassadaigua had the better record than Milchama did. I wouldn't mind seeing it, and not just because I could RP my team getting an extra day off. :p

Perhaps in the future, we could either make clear that teams have to finish in the top three of their group OR the 4-9 teams earn their way in regardless of group standing after the group winners get automatic bids.

Otherwise, Cassadaigua's WBC finish is too reminiscent of the 2008 New England Patriots missing the playoffs despite finishing 11-5.

Looking at it that way, you are right. I apologize for that, I didn't consider this interpretation when I wrote it up.

I want to be sure now that everyone is ok with who is in the 8-9 game now based on this interpretation (shades of WBC 7 isn't it?). I'd like to hear from Cassadaigua on this, although from their RP's it seemed as if they knew they had to finish third.

This bugs me the more I think about this. What would the thought be of a "playoff" between Milchama and Cassadaigua tomorrow, and then the 8-9 game between Sarzonia and that winner. (I can push the rest of the schedule back a day and do an AM and late PM scorination on June 5th, if needed)

DAMN.

WBC 7 all over again. (curse you Green Wombat..:mad:)

No playoff between Milchama and Cassadaigua. TOP THREE from each group advances. Cassadaigua finsihed FOURTH.

Great now I seem like an a-hole :(.

Only acceptable circumsatance would be to allow the other 4th placed teams (Lovisa and Dancougar) to participate as well. (which was the solution in WBC 7)

I disagree, as Lovisa and Dancougar's records are not good enough to come into the question.

It is time for an action.

First, Lovisa and Dancougar are irrelevant when considering the actual question at hand. I'd love to have Dancougar's team of high school girls in Newmanistan, but they did not qualify and there's no question on that, or on Lovisa.

I just took a moment to sit down and read my statements as they were written without thinking about how I intended to write them. Given this, the statements are, unfortunately, contradictory. I sincerely apologize for that.
The second statement can in fact, be interpreted as it being possible for a fourth place team to make the field given that they were the 9th best team overall (this is why Lovisa and Dancougar do not apply).

Therefore, a resolution is necessary and that resolution will be what I think is only fair to both Cassadaigua and Milchama at this point, although Milchama will likely not like this ruling. Monday morning, there will be a game scorinated between Milchama and Cassadaigua. The winner of that game will then play Sarzonia in the 8-9 game on Tuesday with the quarterfinals now beginning on Wednesday. The entire schedule will be pushed back a day, and it will create a need for an early AM late PM scorination on June 5th if all games are necessary.

So tomorrow (or later today), it's Milchama vs Cassadaigua in Tundra Falls.

I guess we can deal with it.

NOTE to next HOST:

Be specific about the playoffs!

I am the next host D: <

(ooc: this is a total IC post.)

AND NOW A WORD FROM Bud Selig, the Czar of the WBC:


"Due to the confusion over WBC 11 (and previously WBC 7) I, Bug Selig, Czar of the WBC hereby decree that in any future WBC, any and all hosts MUST be specifically specific in the wording of the playoff eligibility factors from henceforth.

I am the next host D: <

Well that is still TBD. ;)

As for WBC 12. Around July 1st/4th to begin sign-ups and around the ASG for the beginning of WBC 12?

And sign-ups will be on the NSFourms, NOT HERE! Be forewarned!

Could you make sure to TG me when sign ups begin, just to make sure I remember?

As the one who provoked the WBC 7 debate, this is obvious karma coming back at me.

I disagree, as Lovisa and Dancougar's records are not good enough to come into the question.

I'd love to have Dancougar's team of high school girls in Newmanistan, but they did not qualify and there's no question on that, or on Lovisa.

Yay, sanity reigns!

Monday morning, there will be a game scorinated between Milchama and Cassadaigua. The winner of that game will then play Sarzonia in the 8-9 game on Tuesday with the quarterfinals now beginning on Wednesday.

Ick. Yes, the statements are contradictory, but I still thought it was pretty straightforward... top three in, they get ranked, and rawr, a bracket happens. I'm not a fan of this solution, but I'm not the host, so I defer.

AND NOW A WORD FROM Bud Selig, the Czar of the WBC:

"As we are out of qualification matches, Milchama and Cassadaigua will end in a tie. They will field a combined team against Sarzonia. Call it Cassildaichamua or something."

*double-checks the way I worded the same concept for World Bowl 6*

Phew, it's all good. Cassadaigua won't ask for a retroactive re-scorination of the playoffs based on this. If you didn't play World Bowl 6, Cassadaigua had this same exact thing happen.

Nice how all this happened without a word from Cassadaigua. I think this was probably unnecessary, but as a country who's RPs constantly involve lawsuits for the most trivial of things, it was good to patch this up as it was done.

Now this was all very interesting! :D

I wish I was on while you were all discussing this. In all honesty, I feel pretty guilty about continuing on as my understanding was that I had to finish in the top three of the group and it didn't matter what else was going on in the other groups. I did not and finished fourth.

Right now I'd really like to say keep it like it was and have Sarzonia play Milchama and that we should be out. But I'm not. This sounds like something fun to RP at least for one more day and for future WBC's that we will be in and because that's really what I am in this for and not as much the serious competitive side as compared to how some others might be about RP'ing.

Bring on Milchama!

Otherwise, Cassadaigua's WBC finish is too reminiscent of the 2008 New England Patriots missing the playoffs despite finishing 11-5.

You do know I root for the Patriots, right! :p
We'll be back this year to take the title away from the Steelers!

I really apologise for not RPing during qualifying; I really did want to, but this caught be at a bad time IRL in terms of going on a research trip. (Incidentally, I always thought 'Cassadaigua' came from the Bright Eyes album - but yesterday we drove through a place called 'Canandaigua'.)

(Incidentally, I always thought 'Cassadaigua' came from the Bright Eyes album - but yesterday we drove through a place called 'Canandaigua'.)

Someone's on to the story behind my nation name!
Cassadaigua is completely based on "Canandaigua", as in Canandaigua, New York. This is where noted women's rights activist Susan B. Anthony was tried back in the 1870's for voting, something that helped kickstart the movement. I didn't want to completely copy the name of the city, so a little revision based on my first name, and Cassadaigua was born.

Now back to baseball. :D

"As we are out of qualification matches, Milchama and Cassadaigua will end in a tie. They will field a combined team against Sarzonia. Call it Cassildaichamua or something."

Bud was going to make a statement to that effect, but then his meds kicked in....:eek:

Nice to know there's another Pats fan on NS.. :D

We'll be back this year to take the title away from the Stealers!

Fixed.

We'll be back this year to possibly make the playoffs!

Fixed better :-P

We'll be back this year to go 19-0.

Fixed again. :p

Next one to fix it, will be banned from WBC 9....:tongue:

Next one to fix it, will be banned from WBC 9....:tongue:

That's kinda hard considering the next World Baseball Classic is number 12. :tongue:

Qazox can manipulate space and time. Didn't you know that?

Hmmmm... so I could be mischievous at the cost of being retroactively banned from a tournament I never took part in... tempting. So very tempting.

I can manipulate your thoughts. Really right now you're probally thinking im an idiot for posting this.

Sorry Newmanistan, we were confused who was hosting their. I'd right it off to the hatred of many Taeshani heads of the Secristani views on money. It will be noted in a future Rp that that was an incorrect and about the 12th reporter will be fired from being high or something.

Sorry Newmanistan, we were confused who was hosting their. I'd right it off to the hatred of many Taeshani heads of the Secristani views on money. It will be noted in a future Rp that that was an incorrect and about the 12th reporter will be fired from being high or something.

If any Loudon Stadium personnel made your fans bid for tickets, creating this apparent confusion, please contact the Empress immediately.

Speaking of Time and Space:

Its time to move this thread into a new space: WBC Disscussion Thread (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1475)