NationStates Jolt Archive

World Cup 39 Introduction:

For more information on the World Cup, its History, how it works, who runs it, and the competitions related to it, check out the World Cup Wiki Site (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/World_Cup).

The NSWC is a tournament for any NS nation who signs up. This World Cup is about to start its 39th competition, and your nation can take part! Every team is given a rank based on their performances in previous Cups, and the starting rank is roughly 200 (the Current 'best team in the world' is Az-cz, with a rank of 1) See: KPB Rankings (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/KPB_ranking_system)

Scores are generated using either a Java program or through various or MS Excel sheet 'scorinators' which use random numbers, weighted by ranking and RP bonus to produce the scores.

It is encouraged for Nations to RP - roleplay - their matches, team rosters, players and such. Good RPs will help raise your chance of winning (especially in the Baptism of Fire). Please note: A lot of RPs does not guarantee goals or wins, but your chances are improved of this happening. i.e. Two debutant, non-ranked, nations play each other. One has RP'd a few times, the other has not. The nation who has participated should have the better probability of victory, but still has a chance of a Win, Loss or Draw.

RPs can be Team Roster announcements, fan comments, press conferences, media stories, anything about the game, as long as you've kept to the score as posted or TGd to you by the host/scorer.

For any other questions you may have, please see the World Cup FAQs article on NSwiki. (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/World_Cup_FAQs) - Courtesy of Starblaydia


The longest-running sports-competition in NationStates reaches its milestone Thirty-ninth tournament: the Football (Soccer) World Cup. Please do specify if you have not participated before.


If your nation is new to the World Cup, or if you have no KPB points, you may be able to take part in the preliminary Baptism of Fire Cup (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Baptism_of_Fire) competition.
If this is your first Cup, please indicate whether you wish to be registered for the Baptism of Fire or not.


Puppets have to post with their nation and identify their master. One Puppet per Master nation, and you may only enter a puppet once you have already competed in a World Cup'

Updated To:McPsychoville
Nations Signed Up: (82) - SIGNUPS CLOSED

1. Bazalonia
2. Kura-Pelland
3. Adihan
4. Ariddia
5. Bettia
6. Northern Bettia (Bettia)
7. Dance 2 Revolution
8. Vephrall
9. Cafundeu
10. Candelaria And Marquez
11. Estresse Intenso (Cafundeu)
12. Elves Security Forces
13. Demot (Elves Security Forces)
14. Daehanjeiguk
15. St Samuel
16. Zwangzug
17. Milchama
18. Nire and Nire
19. Sel Appa
20. Jeruselem
21. Bostopia
22. Jeru FC (Jeruselem)
23. Quakmybush
24. Starblaydia
25. Hopeless SC
26. Taeshan
27. Scotchpinestan
28. Magnus Valerius
29. Kelssek
30. Qazox
31. Green wombat
32. Prux
33. Casari
34. Sorthern Northland
35. Wentland
36. Squornshelous
37. Kalmykstan (Magnus Valerius)
38. Az-cz
39. Novapsolu
40. Krytenia
41. Blouman Empire
42. Ashlaea (Taeshan)
43. Cadarnia
44. Bull_horns_rule
45. Yafor 2
46. Algal states
47. The Turkic Shahdom
48. Yafalonia and Bazor 2 (Joint puppet of Bazalonia and Yafor 2)
49. Fujisawan Territories
50. Tynelia
51. Capitalizt SLANI
52. 자스연 [Jasīʼyūn] (Capitalizt SLANI)
53. Ulzaxid (Az-cz)
54. Lovisa
55. Jariss (Tynelia)
56. The Holy Empire
57. The Archregimancy (The Holy Empire)
58. Oliverry
59. Samcoa
60. Bonto
61. The Pazhujeb Islands
62. The Islands of Qutar
63. Endmile
64. Minilla Island
65. Minilla Island West (Minila Island)
66. Komekong
67. Beer Served Here
68. Wing Wang Woo
69. Rugiero
70. Dancougar
71. Solenial
72. Gweridijongya
73. Acapais
74. Naboombu Umbongo
75. Rejistania
76. Dinos Pizza
77. Loutra oreas Elenis
78. Evil Polish Donors
79. Wavispa
80. Violitism
81. Carcim
82. McPsychoville

WAITING LIST
1. The Supermarket

Puppet Nations Involved: 13

Northern Bettia (Bettia)
Estresse Intenso (Cafundeu)
Demot (Elves Security Forces)
Jeru FC (Jeruselem)
Kalmykstan (Magnus Valerius)
Ashlaea (Taeshan)
Yafalonia and Bazor 2 (Joint puppet of Bazalonia and Yafor 2)
자스연 [Jasīʼyūn] (Capitalizt SLANI)
Ulxazid (Az-cz)
Jariss (Tynelia)
The Archregimancy (The Holy Empire)
Minilla Island West (Minilla Island)

Baptism of Fire Applicants: 20 SIGNUPS CLOSED

Kalmykstan (Magnus Valerius)
Blouman Empire
Ashlaea (Taeshan)
Cadarnia
Bull_horns_rule
The Turkic Shahdom
Yafalonia and Bazor 2 (Joint puppet of Bazalonia and Yafor 2)
Fujisawan Territories
Lake Arrowhead
Samcoa
Bonto
Komekong
Beer Served Here
Wing Wang Woo
Dancougar
Kirrin Island (The Islands of Qutar)
Gweridijongya
Naboombu Umbongo
Dinos Pizza
Loutra oreas Elenis

Signs up... What puppet yet I haven't decided.

A signup from the current co-hosts, who might qualify on merit this time around.

If your predecessors as cohosts (that's us - we're back) are anything to go by, you'll get a near-group of death and still qualify quite comfortably. :D :p

Ariddia (the Federation of the Ariddian Isles) signs up.

Edit: I confirm signup of my puppet, Bashenk, in just a moment.

Edit 2: I can log in with Bashenk, but for some reason I can't post:


Bashenk, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.


So, if possible, please consider this a signup by Bashenk, as a puppet of Ariddia.

Bettia are in, as always.

And so are its puppets, the mighty Northern Bettia.

WC39, here we come...and then to WC39s respective Cup of Harmony :D

A signup from the current co-hosts, who might qualify on merit this time around.

Ditto.

A sign-up post by Cafundéu

A thrillingly original sign-up post brought to you by the good folk of Candelaria And Marquez.

Landau Institute signs-up

Valanora are back, and so are those pests of Demot :p

Sign me up for the next war!!!

St Samuel sign up

Zwangzug will return.

I'm back, with weapons!

Nire and Nire will return, but plans to stay well away from Milchama

The Turtles will need to defend the Cup that is soon to be theirs... ;)

Yeah, Sel Appa signs up. :)

The Princesses will be back to score hearts and minds and other things ...

Bostopia is hereby entering it's 9th World Cup.

Jeru FC are back to terrorise the women of the world (because football teams don't take us seriously).

Quakmybush back for their 11th? world cup

Starblaydia!

Hopeless SC signs up to serve as a hopeless doormat for the best teams in the world for a 2nd time.


I will predict that Sel Appa will not win World Cup 38. If you only beat me at home by 3 goals, you aren't playing well enough to win the Cup.

seeing as my team is doing worse then are first year i really screwed going into the third cup wich ive entered yet again how am i in 7 when last time i finished fourth. Sit backs and listens to HEY THERE DELILAH by the plain white t's. D

Scotchpinestan (currently contributing to Taeshan's screwups) will enter.

Sign up Magnus Valerius and the Boyars again.

We're signing up too.

Qazox will sign up for its lucky 13th World Cup!

Green wombat will be back to its 10th Cup we think. (we missed a couple)

Prux will try for the 3rd time to win at least 2 games.

You can try to job us all you can, you arses, but the fact remains- we hate you all and are once again back just to make your lives far more miserable than they were already!

Uglier kits!
More insane coaches!
Even less respect for the sport than we used to have!
Shameless corporate sponsorship!
Tactics that include kicking your best player in the reproductives and laughing!
And at least Seven-

Yes Seven-

Llamas!

So join us again for another horrible qualifying campaign as the Tigers sign up for World Cup 39!

The donkeys of Sorthern Northland sign up and promise to destroy any llamas who dare to get in our way.

Taeshan announces the changing of there jerseys since syning with a new sponsor. The jerseys are now all purple at home with VIAGRA written across the chest and away jerseys of green with viagra written in purple. Viagra has terminated its contract with the x island marauders and guess what after the next cup (40) all my countries players ill be in the world cup hall

Yay!!!!

Squornshelous signs up.

Kalmykstan signs up for WC39 and also signs up for the Baptism of Fire.

(this is a puppet of Magnus Valerius)

Az-cz is going to let the good times roll.

Kalmykstan signs up for WC39 and also signs up for the Baptism of Fire.

(this is a puppet of Magnus Valerius)

MV can you please post a Boyar confirmation of Kalmykstan's puppet status.

Thanks

You haven't added Bashenk. Since I still can't post with that account, I'll send a TG from Bashenk to NSWC Signups, confirming the sign-up and the fact that it is indeed my puppet.

Novapsolu shall return once again.

And now it does work!

Anyway, confirming signup as a puppet of Ariddia.

MV can you please post a Boyar confirmation of Kalmykstan's puppet status.

Thanks

Yeah. Confirming Kalmykstan's signup as my puppet.

Signing up for more thrashing.

OOC: I hope it sn't to late to sign up

The Imperial Bank Bloumany Eagles wish to sign up for the NS World Cup 39.

I have not participated in a world cup before, and thus have no KBP points and would like to be registered for the Baptism of Fire Cup.

the puppet of taeshan, Ashlaea signs up

confirms sign up
Go white salamanders

Anychance Cadarnia can join for the first time

I will sign up. I have never played before and would wish to be in The Baptism of FIRE!

Yeah, Yaforite sign-up.

Might have a puppet or something this time around, pending other matters being solved.

Algal States signs up for another go.

I'd like a go and a go at the BoF

The Disputed Territory of Yafalonia and Bazor2 signs up as a duel puppet of Bazalonia and Yafor 2. And as such will take up the puppet status of both of these nations. Confirmation soon. BOF Entry requested.

Bazalonian confirmation of puppet status

The Disputed Territory of Yafalonia and Bazor2 signs up as a duel puppet of Bazalonia and Yafor 2. And as such will take up the puppet status of both of these nations. Confirmation soon. BOF Entry requested.

Yeah, confirmation from this corner as well.

*notes that, for all those irritating complainers that there is precedent for a joint puppet - System Karela - and that this takes the place of the puppet for both of us*

The Fujisawan Territories would like to sign up if it's not too late.

The Rogue Nation of Lake Arrowhead would like to sign up...and for the batism of fire

Tynelia is back again

When do we start?

Az-cz preconfirming Ulzaxid.

When do we start?

Given the current calendar and timeframe I'd estimate a late January or early February start for WC39, after taking into account this cup, the holiday period, and the Baptism of Fire tournament before the next cup starts.

Capitalizt SLANI and 자스연 (Jasīʼyūn) will be there again…

Ulzaxid signs up, hoping to make it two qualifications in a row.

Given the current calendar and timeframe I'd estimate a late January or early February start for WC39, after taking into account this cup, the holiday period, and the Baptism of Fire tournament before the next cup starts.

Ok Thanks.

Lovisa sign up

Jariss returns to the WC and again vehemently denies any puppet like allegiance to Tynelia

The Holy Empire

Puppet status of the Archregimancy confirmed in advance

You seek them here

You seek them there

You seek those monkles everywhere

Are they in heaven?

Are they in hell?

I gave up trying to find a scanning rhyme.

Frenchies Frenchies Frenchies

Err... I mean that we sign up!

Capitalizt SLANI and Valanora (ESF) announce their bid to host World Cup 39 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545188).

The Union of Samcoa applies to take part in its first World Cup. It is also keen to take part in the Baptism Of Fire.

The Community of Bonto enthusiastically signs up for the Baptism of Fire and their first WC qualifiers.

Pazhujeb Islands are in. Warning: Nerdy and/or Hardy Boys-based RPs may ensue.

OOC:

PS I can't access the World Cup wiki - is there a reason for this, beyond my laptop being a pain?

OOC:

PS I can't access the World Cup wiki - is there a reason for this, beyond my laptop being a pain?

Use this.
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/world_cup.html

Me signs up!

United Socialist States of Endmile is in.

Minilla Island Enters.

Also, our puppet, Minilla Island West also enters

Komekong is signing up, also this our first world cup, so we would like to sign up for the Baptism of Fire Cup also.

I'd like to withdraw my puppet, Bashenk.

As stated in another thread, I'm cutting back on my time in NS. So I don't want to start posting with a puppet.

Beer Served Here also wishes to sign up for its first World Cup. We also would like to participate in the Baptism By Fire stage. Of course our raucous, well-traveled, yet well-behaved fan base will also be present. The more the merrier right?

The Democratic Republic of Wing Wang Woo would like to sign up for the World Cup.

Rugiero signs up again, though this time we actually hope to be there.

please love us...

The brand-spanking new Kingdom of Dancougar Football Association puts in an application for its first World Cup competition, and would like to participate in the Baptism of Fire.

Solenial sign's up

Solenial sign's up

Lynn Truss will feast upon your kin.

Kirrin Island a puppet of The Islands of Qutar wishes to sign up and participate in the Baptism of Fire

The Interdependent Territories of One Red Dot, now resurrected as The Federation of Gweridijongya wishes to join. We'll be participating in the BoF as well.

Ahhh.. it's great to be back.

If it is not too late, Acapais would like to try WC Qualification again.

The Interdependent Territories of One Red Dot, now resurrected as The Federation of Gweridijongya wishes to join. We'll be participating in the BoF as well.

Ahhh.. it's great to be back.

hooray!

The newly discovered isle of Naboombu Umbongo wishes to partake in this so-called "Football World Cup" and conclude that as this is their first ever escapade into any kind of cross-nation competition, they would be eligible for the "Baptism of Fire" competition also.

Local self-employed astronaut Mr Spoon of Button Moon has been appointed as the team's manager, coach and physio with his wife Mrs Spoon likely to take over the responsibility for half-time oranges and refreshments. Mr Spoon shot to national fame with his televised outer-space escapades and is father of one to his daughter Tina Teaspoon. He is said to be delighted to be involved in the game he first discovered whilst looking through a telescope and his search for 11 islanders to learn and then play this largely unknown phenomenon begins today.

When does this party get started?

The WC host vote will be complete tomorrow after that... upto the hosts.

Rejistania signs up

Congratulations to the hosts of World Cup 39 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545188).

(Yes. Yes, this post has been strategically timed with an ulterior motive. So there.)

Congratulations to the hosts of World Cup 39 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=545188).

(Yes. Yes, this post has been strategically timed with an ulterior motive. So there.)

So a new thread to start our RPing will begin soon correct?

So a new thread to start our RPing will begin soon correct?
Five more teams are needed so that the qualifying stage can have ten groups of eight (technically, the current number of teams would allow fifteen groups of five, but then each team would play only eight matches in qualifying, which is too short).

Five more teams are needed so that the qualifying stage can have ten groups of eight (technically, the current number of teams would allow fifteen groups of five, but then each team would play only eight matches in qualifying, which is too short).

Why would each team necessarily play just 8 matches in qualifying? Why not 16?

(Not that I'm seriously suggesting a format where each team plays each other team four times, just noting that it is technically possible.)

Why would each team necessarily play just 8 matches in qualifying? Why not 16?

(Not that I'm seriously suggesting a format where each team plays each other team four times, just noting that it is technically possible.)
Since the number of teams in each group is odd, each team would have four bye days in addition to the sixteen matches, which would result in a twenty-day qualifying round, excluding any days set aside for friendlies. It would be the longest qualifying round ever used in the World Cup, despite the relatively low number of teams.

Now if only we had as many signups as bumps here… :p

Five more teams are needed so that the qualifying stage can have ten groups of eight (technically, the current number of teams would allow fifteen groups of five, but then each team would play only eight matches in qualifying, which is too short).

eight matches too short (really?), how is this worked out, even if we had groups of ten then wouldn't the teams be only needed to play nine games for qualifying to see who makes it in to the next group stage. Forgive my ignorance on this matter it is the first time I am competing in the World Cup perhaps there is a site where I can read about the process that someone could give me? I know there is an article on NSWiki but that is down at the moment is there any where else

Teams play each other home and away in qualifying, so a group of ten would mean 18 games per team.

ive got an idea 11 groups of seven since theres 77 teams with 12 qualifyi ng games

HELLO

ive got an idea 11 groups of seven since theres 77 teams with 12 qualifyi ng games

HELLO

We need 30 teams to qualify and that doesn't work well with 11.

:headbang:

The hosts don't participate in qualifiers, so there are only 75 (and counting) teams signed up for them.

The Republic of Dinos Pizza would like sign up for the world cup. This will be my first competition, so can i also start in the baptism of fire?

Is there anything preventing us from having groups with different sizes? UEFA does, I assume though that it gets balanced out by some groups having more strong/weak teams than others.

With 76 teams... four groups of 7, and six of 8? Having 12/14 games per group seems reasonable.

Is there anything preventing us from having groups with different sizes? UEFA does, I assume though that it gets balanced out by some groups having more strong/weak teams than others. With 76 teams... four groups of 7, and six of 8? Having 12/14 games per group seems reasonable.
There’s nothing preventing it, but qualifying groups have always been equally-sized, and it’s one less thing for people to complain about. Also, the teams in the larger groups would have their KPB rank (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/kpb_ranking_system.html) “padded” by two likely wins against the low-ranked team at the bottom of the group.

The Baptism of Fire tournament would also need unevenly-sized groups, since there are currently nineteen teams in it. Since the BoF groups are smaller, and all teams are otherwise equal, uneven groups wouldn’t work well there.

I guess for the BoF it makes sense; all other things being equal, it doesn't make sense to give one group an advantage over any other. But for more established teams in the regular WC, couldn't the ratings be weighted based on the number of games played or something? Although I guess that does add unnecessary complexity to a system that already works.

But for more established teams in the regular WC, couldn't the ratings be weighted based on the number of games played or something?

The KPB system actually does work this way. Actually as far as the rankings are concerned, a BoF with unequal groups would work perfectly fine because of the fact that all teams are equal. But in a World Cup where the teams are not equal...well, honestly I think CH can explain this problem better than I can, and I'm sure he'll be happy to do so next time he looks at this thread. :D

Ah, forgive my noobish misunderstanding.

Actually as far as the rankings are concerned, a BoF with unequal groups would work perfectly fine because of the fact that all teams are equal.
The BoF wouldn’t work any better than the WC, it just has the opposite problem—the chances of qualifying for the World Cup are virtually unaffected by having an extra low-ranked team in the qualifying group, but the rankings would be skewed by points earned against that team; the points earned from the BoF group stage would be fine, but teams in a smaller group have a better chance of advancing to the knockout stage.

Now, if we just had four more signups…

My nation also want to sign up for first time. Hope it isn't late

Not at all!

This is a probable Baptism of Fire cutoff: nations that post after this are unlikely to participate in that tournament, but may still participate in the World Cup qualifiers.

Not at all!

This is a probable Baptism of Fire cutoff: nations that post after this are unlikely to participate in that tournament, but may still participate in the World Cup qualifiers.

unless you get four more BoF signups before that tournament goes into major planning.

Yeah, the group draw having been completed, I think I can safely say that BoF signups are closed. Besides, four more teams would push the overall total past 82...

*bump*
Three more signups needed…won’t someone please think of the monks? :(

I think I already signed up, what qualification thingy am i in?

I think I already signed up, what qualification thingy am i in?
You’re in the Baptism of Fire tournament (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547656), which will soon begin; the World Cup qualifiers will not start until after the BoF is over.

ill join it, its my first time,

I want to be in the baptism of fire please

Unfortunately the Baptism of Fire has already been started. However you're still welcome to compete once the main competition begins shortly after the conclusion of the BoF.

I want to join too! it's my first time. but is it really to late to join the BoF?

Well the thread has been created and the groups have been drawn, so I would believe it to be. However as the matches have yet to start, the hosts might be able to do something.

yay! :)

Unfortunately, the only way for the Baptism of Fire to get larger groups of equal size, even if two more teams were to sign up in the next three hours, would be if the World Cup signups went over capacity, so Evil Polish Donors and Wavispa cannot compete there. They can, however, participate in the World Cup qualifiers.

sign me up, im new, someone explained the situation

Sign me up, I'm new to this, but apparently I've missed the BoF ceremony

Violitism has taken the last available spot so unfortunately for Carcim, it looks like you won't be able join. However it is possible that one or more nations will have ceased.

So We're adding Carcim to the waiting list...

I know it says that the signups have been closed, but I'm registering interest anyway because I've participated before. Hell, I won a Cup of Harmony once! Don't remember when, but that's besides the points.

Host announcement

Kirrin Island and Lake Arrowhead ceased to exist, therefore, Carcim and McPsychoville are in. Since Kura-Pelland has offered a puppet in case one more nation ceases, signups are now fully closed. Links to the roster and roleplay threads to come shortly.

…and here we are:

World Cup 39—roleplay thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547989)
World Cup 39—roster thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=547990)

I know sign-ups are closed, but old n00bie here put themselves forward in case anyone buggers off.

I know sign-ups are closed, but old n00bie here put themselves forward in case anyone buggers off.
As The Turkic Shahdom has ceased to exist, The Supermarket is in.

Should another nation cease to exist, Jey would like to join WC 39.