NationStates Jolt Archive


World Baseball Classic Interest

American Fist
03-04-2007, 17:19
Ladies and gentlemen, sign-ups for the FIRST World Baseball Classic (WBC) are now CLOSED. Thanks to all who expressed interest—I promise, this is going to be a fun little tournament. We now have our sixteen participating nations. They are:

Braveria (Replacing American Fist)
Zwangzug
Kiryu-shi
St Samuel
West Pasco
Political Cartoons
Cookesland
Assegai Developments
Lovisa
Okielahoma
Qazox
Milchama
Az-cz
Kampfers
Iansisle
Elves Security Forces

Tonight I will be making a roster/scores/roleplay thread introducing the WBC and explaining some basic rules, mainly what was discussed here. Afterwards, you may all post your respective rosters. Thanks again for your interest and time!
Swilatia
03-04-2007, 17:24
not interested.

Also, find a scorinator, or make one. People who suggest just making up scores are ignored, and unsually have their chocolate chip cookies taken away from them.
Zwangzug
03-04-2007, 17:29
I'd like to take part.

Instead of a 162-game season, I'd think we should either follow the example of the 2006 WBC (pool play, then brackets) or play series of games in brackets (like the MLB playoff system).

I also suggest leaving the statistics to the individual players to decide.

But don't give up on the Cubs yet. :)
American Fist
03-04-2007, 17:33
not interested.

Also, find a scorinator, or make one. People who suggest just making up scores are ignored,

Hm, that's strange. I don't remember suggesting that.

and unsually have their chocolate chip cookies taken away from them.

LAWL, choklit chipp cokies!1111 god one.
Swilatia
03-04-2007, 17:34
Hm, that's strange. I don't remember suggesting that.



LAWL, choklit chipp cokies!1111 god one.

Well, what i'm trying to carry across is that you need a scorinator.
American Fist
03-04-2007, 17:36
I'd like to take part.

Instead of a 162-game season, I'd think we should either follow the example of the 2006 WBC (pool play, then brackets) or play series of games in brackets (like the MLB playoff system).

I also suggest leaving the statistics to the individual players to decide.

But don't give up on the Cubs yet. :)

Well, I know we'd definitely have to go with an abbreviated season. I just didn't know how extreme to make it. I'll mosey on over to the MLB site, check to see how many games were played in the WBC. The rosters will probably be a bit smaller too. And the Cubs are beyond hope compadre.
American Fist
03-04-2007, 17:38
Well, what i'm trying to carry across is that you need a scorinator.

And what I'm trying to tell you is that I never said anything about making up scores. I said in my original post I'd have no problem simulating the results, implying that either I have a scorinator or one is in the works. Thanks for your concern, though.
Kiryu-shi
03-04-2007, 17:41
It'd be fun to play, and depending on how many nations are interested, I would suggest going with the format from the real WBC, with group play and then single elimnation. I would also suggest going with a style similar to the World Cup, where the host uses a scorinator to post the scores, and teams can determine what happened in each game by rp. But yeah, if it happens, I want to play.
Zwangzug
03-04-2007, 17:42
And the Cubs are beyond hope compadre.Blatantly false. There is always hope, and the Cubs exemplify that.
American Fist
03-04-2007, 17:58
Blatantly false. There is always hope, and the Cubs exemplify that.

Hey man, I'm just messing with ya. I'm about as big a Cubs fan out there. Just look in my closet...rows of Prior jersies I can't wear anymore (lol).

I checked out the WBC wiki, and they played it round robin, elimination style like previously suggested. I'd be willing to do it that style, but it all depends on whether I get enough interest or not. 16 teams participated in the WBC. I could probably get away with 12, but anything lower than that is kinda pathetic :/.

Oh, and apparently there were 30 man rosters in the WBC. A little excessive...I might cut it down. Thoughts?
St Samuel
03-04-2007, 18:00
Im definatley up for it. St Samuel would like to take part and maybe a couple of my puppet nations if you want to make some numbers up.
Zwangzug
03-04-2007, 18:03
Ok, sorry for misinterpretation. :)

I think 16 or 12 would be reasonable numbers for teams: wait a day or two to gauge interest. 30 does seem high for a roster.
Kiryu-shi
03-04-2007, 18:10
I think it was 30 because there was a pitch limit, so teams had to have a lot of pitchers. Presuming that we won't have a pitch limit, rosters can be smaller. I'd suggest 20-25, considering mlb teams have 25 players.
West Pasco
03-04-2007, 18:35
I'm interested.



BTW Cubbies Suck Brewers Rule!
American Fist
03-04-2007, 18:57
Alright, here's the deal. I'm at the workplace right now and I'm kind of scatter-brained, so you're definitely going to see a more organized effort from me when I get home. That said, we're going to go ahead with a 20 man roster...you gotta figure, 8 position players, five back-ups, and seven pitchers oughta be enough. I'll post the scores (after using my handy-dandy scorinator), you guys can roleplay the results. There will probably be an rp bonus.

For now, I'm just looking for interest. Once I've got 12-16 teams, I'm going to make a megathread that will be for scores, rosters, and roleplays. Hopefully this thing will grow. Rest assured I'll be dedicated...it's just a matter of finding the players.

For the duration of the Classic, I'll be using a puppet of mine, Braveria, so don't be surprised if you see that name floating around.

Finally, a couple of issues. DH or no DH? A DH would probably be a wise choice. And should all the games be hosted in one nation, or should games alternate between nation ballparks?
Political Cartoons
03-04-2007, 19:07
I'm interested.


And, the Yankees will win it all again, finally.
Kiryu-shi
03-04-2007, 19:18
I hate the DH, and I would rather not use it. I'm not sure about where the games are, but if it's in various nations, we could make it so that the home team decides DH or no DH, maybe.


And the Yankees are NOT going to win it all.

And RP bonus=good, especially at the begining with no team ranks.
Zwangzug
03-04-2007, 19:55
RP-bonus good, DH bad. :p
Cookesland
03-04-2007, 20:25
Cookesland signs up (it's our national sport)
Assegai Developments
03-04-2007, 20:29
Assegai Developments is interested.

We're prepared to send the Assegai Developments National Baseball Team, also known as the Dodgers.
Lovisa
03-04-2007, 22:47
Im interesting too. :)
Okielahoma
03-04-2007, 23:11
I'd be interested. If you can't find any sort of scorinator i'd be more than happy to whip you up a spreadsheet (I can include RP bonus on that) and it should be fairly easy to use for you.
Cookesland
03-04-2007, 23:31
I'm interested.


And, the Yankees will win it all again, finally.

no way this is the Phils year :)
Qazox
04-04-2007, 05:18
I'm interested.


And, the Yankees will win it all again, finally.

Teh Yankees Suck.. GO RED SOX!!!!!

As for the DH question and one nation? It shoudl be up to the home team, and for the group play, each nation should host at least one game.

I'm interested, but would need a bit more info on the Scorination.

As for the stats, just post the scores and if possible the line score.

(i.e:
Team 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Team A 0 0 0 4 2 1 0 0 0 7 15 1
Team B 2 1 0 0 0 5 0 0 x 8 17 2

Also The individual countries should be able to RP how the runs scored, and the extra like Wild pitches, errors, pithcing changes etc.
Milchama
04-04-2007, 05:19
As the official NS baseball historian (except for NSMLB which was waaaaaaaaaaay back) i know that An Archy has a scorinator that he used which while overly complicated was quite good for generating accurate results.

Oh yeh I think any good baseball scorinator needs to be overly complicated because games themselves are made up of a lot of stats so complex scorinators take into account those things.

Anywhoo yeh I'm interested oh yeh and the Cubs will do quite well this year and hopefully will do better in 08 after my uncle buys them out *crosses fingers*
Az-cz
04-04-2007, 07:35
Az-cz is very interested in this and would like to be included.

As far as scorination is goes, using the An Archy scorinator is a bad idea. The scores were crazy things like 42-15 and things like that. My advice would be the opposite of Mil's, use simple scorinators and let things like hits, RBIs, runs and so one left to the RP.
American Fist
04-04-2007, 18:42
Couple of updates. We now have 13 participants. If I can get just three more, we'll have ourselves a nice little tournament. Games will alternate from country to country...in other words, we'll all have home ballparks, instead of one nation hosting. The DH will be decided by whoever the home team is. When you guys post rosters (in a roster thread), make sure to put Home: DH or no DH. I'll make a note of it in when I make the other thread.

I notice there's some discussion about the scorinator. Baseball is a complicated sport, with many complicated stats. I don't plan on using Anarchy's scorinator. With that said, I do have my own scorinator that keeps it fairly simple. Four stats. Pitching, Hitting, Defense, Running, the essentials of baseball. Each nation will have 25 points to divide up between them. Now, my scorinator is a little buggy, BUT it gets the job done, and any unrealistic results may be altered slightly (only in the name of realism).
Az-cz
04-04-2007, 19:43
So long as they're within somewhat reason I'd try to avoid altering the scores as much as possible.
Milchama
04-04-2007, 21:07
Az-cz is very interested in this and would like to be included.

As far as scorination is goes, using the An Archy scorinator is a bad idea. The scores were crazy things like 42-15 and things like that. My advice would be the opposite of Mil's, use simple scorinators and let things like hits, RBIs, runs and so one left to the RP.

His last scorinator sucked but he ran two very successful tourneys before that.

So those other scorinators are the ones I'm suggesting not the latest one.
Qazox
04-04-2007, 22:13
-Quazox.... Now, my scorinator is a little buggy, BUT it gets the job done, and any unrealistic results may be altered slightly (only in the name of realism).


Af it's spelled :QAZOX no U's K's or any other letters thanks. Unless a score like 35-3 pops up, which is possible.. but extremely unlikely, the scores should stand.
American Fist
05-04-2007, 03:12
Af it's spelled :QAZOX no U's K's or any other letters thanks. Unless a score like 35-3 pops up, which is possible.. but extremely unlikely, the scores should stand.

Oi vey, a very bad slip on my part. My sincerest apologies...that must be annoying. About the scorinator...the tests I've run so far, I get a lot of shutouts. Other than that, it's not so bad.
Elves Security Forces
05-04-2007, 03:35
chalk up another Cubs/RSox fan and participant here
Kampfers
05-04-2007, 04:52
I would be very interested. You should model it after the very successful soccer/football world cup. You know, with group rounds and then a single elimination tournament with the top 2 teams from each group. And it is easier when you provide stats, but i guess we could write them ourselves.
Iansisle
05-04-2007, 06:20
If you all were looking for three more, I'll be the third. About time I dusted off the Longshoremen, I suppose, and I'm on a baseball high right now after watching Hoffy nail down his umpteen billionth save.
Qazox
05-04-2007, 07:19
Oi vey, a very bad slip on my part. My sincerest apologies...that must be annoying.
No problem... Try looking at the names of some of the teams in the World Cup some time (ie: Sqournshelous)
American Fist
05-04-2007, 23:15
Okie dokie, folks! We've got our sweet sixteen! I updated the original post. Just to reiterate though, the main thread should be up tonight, detailing how many men to a roster, how the tournament itself works, where the DH will come into play, etc. etc.

Sign-ups are officially closed!
Qazox
07-04-2007, 03:54
LETS PLAY BALL!!!!!

When are you planning to start this?
Cookesland
07-04-2007, 15:42
Is this going to be like NS World Series One of Baseball (even though there ws one many eons ago)?
Swilatia
07-04-2007, 16:07
Im interesting too. :)

you are right, i would love to know more about your nation then a 3-liner can show.
Zwangzug
09-04-2007, 21:35
...Bump?
Cookesland
09-04-2007, 21:36
...Timeframe?
Qazox
11-04-2007, 06:40
So When Are We Gonna Start?
Qazox
11-04-2007, 22:50
If Amerian Fist is not going to host this.. and it's been about a week since signups closed, I could host it if no one objects
Kiryu-shi
12-04-2007, 00:50
If Amerian Fist is not going to host this.. and it's been about a week since signups closed, I could host it if no one objects

I wouldn't mind at all. :)