NationStates Jolt Archive

(Yes, I know Cherry Cup existed, but it's long-forgotten now, so why not start over? It's not like Aglukark has any influence now :p )

It's now time for a new hockey tournament. I'll keep this simple: leave a word here if you want to sign-up. About sign-ups, you are allowed to 2 nations (a master and a puppet nation), but in order to have the right to enter one, the World Cup rule will apply: you need to have entered a Cherry Cup before to be able to enter one.

Hosts are also needed. For yout information, a host is the guy that will sim the games with a scorinator (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Scorinate) (Also see the how are scores generated (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/World_Cup_FAQs#How_Are_Scores_Generated.3F) part of the World Cup thread.) If you really need one, I'm currently working on one using Visual Basic, though no progress have been done in months due to high school overwork. Should have more time to work on it after March Break.

In case you got concerns, this new cup will be similar to the Cherry Cup. But it will still have differences, such as an unified rankings system, instead of one used at the discretion of the host. These rankings will make cups more even from one to another and will also eliminate any try from hosts to hi-jack the competition in their favour when they are ranked low. Nothing is defined yet about them, so don't ask about a formula yet.

That's about it. Welcome to the World cup of hockey :)

Host for this 1st edition: Bedistan

Sign-ups: (29):

Main nations:
- Oliverry
- Kelssek
- Az-Cz
- Bazalonia
- Vilita & Turori
- Qazox
- Fort Europe
- Elves Security Forces
- San Monticaz
- United Island Empires
- Bettia
- Coocoostan
- Quakmybush
- Swilatia
- Milchama
- Lovisa
- Ironwell
- East Lithuania
- Dukarbana
- Zubizarra
- Lethislavania
- Rorysville
- Ghost Tigers Rise
- Magnus Valerius
- Nitrodymium
- Cookesland
- Kuczerica
- Daniel The Man
- Corneliu

Puppets:
- None

Threats:
- Bettia threatens to field a side composed entirely of aroras
- Qazox threatens to use Cartoon characters as its team, as they cannot be harmed

Hosting bids:
- Bedistan

We're in.

We're in. That's two of the big sports. Now if we could just basketball back from Okie.....

Bazalonia will sign up for a FIELD HOCKEY World Cup.

(Hey, there is no mention of ICE HOCKEY, anywhere :P )

Vilita & Turori are interested.

Count us in too, and No i'm not gonna use Star Trek people this time...lol. Might use Family Guy though....

Bazalonia will sign up for a FIELD HOCKEY World Cup.

(Hey, there is no mention of ICE HOCKEY, anywhere :P )

My thoughts exactly... if this is the case, count me in!

Elves play Hockey, yarr

We are interested, the ice-hockey sounds good too as a though!

May as well, got nothing better to do.

The Aroras On Ice are back to grace the rink.

The Coocoostan Fighting Ibix, the hockey power of the East Pacific, will play.

The Quakmybush Sharks will play some hockey.

I'm not sure is Swilatians will really care that their country has a team in this, but whatever. sign us up.

Why are we abandoning the cherry cup? The lack of seriousness was the best part of it, no real complaining or bitching. (outside of you and Star, ironically enough complaining about you, saying the host cheated)

I'll sign up anyway and try to be not serious.

Lovisa sign up

If it's not too late, my country'd love to throw in a team.

I'm in

I'm in.

Sign-ups updated up to here.

Why are we abandoning the cherry cup? The lack of seriousness was the best part of it, no real complaining or bitching. (outside of you and Star, ironically enough complaining about you, saying the host cheated)

I'll sign up anyway and try to be not serious.

I know I won't be taking this too seriously. one of my posts will include the line "wait, Swilatia has a hockey team??".

if signups are still open, Zubizarra would like to compete.

Anyway, as I said, RPly, I hope people won't be taking this as seriously as they would take it in the World Cup. But we don't want cups to be hijacked by their hosts (I have been guilty of this in CC9, but this is something in the past) because they use rankings we don't know about. So there will be some set rules about the cup, but they won't be too restricting and will surely permit everyone to play enough games to not be discouraged from playing in next cups. All of this to permit ice hockey to take back the "2nd most important sport in NS" award

All of this to permit ice hockey to take back the "2nd most important sport in NS" award

Nah.. The TOUR de QAZOX is. It's up to its 3d edition, and each time I've had more sginups (13 to 14 to 17)... unless you count the Women's world Cup. (sry.. didn't mean to plug) Although Hockey is probably a bit easier to scorinate than a Cycling race any day, and a bit easier to RP.

Here.

The Defending AC Cup Champs are in

as is Marceau State(confirming Later)

All of this to permit ice hockey to take back the "2nd most important sport in NS" award

Hold on a moment, I thought this was the World Cup of Hockey... where did the ice come from? Well if you're going to play a traditional field sport on ice then I definatly won't be RP'ing seriously, anyone know the rules for this Hockey on Ice?

World Cup of Hockey is a reference to the RL WCoH, that happened in 1996 and 2004 (link to a description of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup_of_Hockey ). A link to the rules of Ice Hockey can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Hockey ). For an example of a hockey game (highlights only, sadly, but you're surely get the point, and it's even a footage from the 2004 World Cup of Hockey), this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EklMZOLk7fs) will help you understand more what the game is about.

As well, if you are interested in hosting the cup, please emerge and propose yourself as the host

Dude Ice Hockey is like 10 billion times better than field hockey, yo.

Updated the first post with other pieces of information

Bedistan wishes to sign up, and also throws its hat into the ring for hosting rights.

So, when does this start

Oh bugger, I forgot the traditional threat. Ummm... we threaten to field a side composed entirely of aroras? No, that's crap. I'll get to you on this...

Dude Ice Hockey is like 10 billion times better than field hockey, yo.

I've looked up this Ice Hockey stuff... it seems we do have a league in the UK, though it isn't very well advertised and is limited to a few public ice rinks around the country. I don't see it ever catch on, but I'm sure I can find a frozen lake or something in my nation's mountain region to make a pitch on for this tournament.

"Field" Hockey as you call it however is the fifth national sport here, after football, cricket, rugby and boxing, it's played in all schools at some level up and down the country and an exciting sport to play. I myself played for a while in the national military league (East Midlands division).

Oh bugger, I forgot the traditional threat. Ummm... we threaten to field a side composed entirely of aroras? No, that's crap. I'll get to you on this...What is this threat thing?

Is this still open? Ice hockey is my personal favourite sport... I'd like to join if you have room.

Count Magnus Valerius in. :D

Oh bugger, I forgot the traditional threat.

So did I.. Qazox threatens to use Cartoon characters as its team, as they cannot be harmed. So :p :upyours: to all injuries!!

True... I forgot to tell people they could threaten :P

Updated sign-ups until here

When will this start?

Nitrodymium will join

;) Cookesland is in

Yeah... this is dead, isn't it? :(

Nope, not at all. Right now I'm prepared to go ahead as soon as we have 32 signups (we have 24 right now).

(posting on behalf of the accidentally-ceased Bedistan. I blame Jolt for this - it's much easier to just go directly into the forums where I'm already logged in rather than logging into NS and then having to log in again when I reach the forums because the connection between NS proper and the forums is fouled up, and as a result my logins to the nation have been...well, sporadic at best.)

Nope, not at all. Right now I'm prepared to go ahead as soon as we have 32 signups (we have 24 right now).
Alright, cool. :)

(posting on behalf of the accidentally-ceased Bedistan. I blame Jolt for this - it's much easier to just go directly into the forums where I'm already logged in rather than logging into NS and then having to log in again when I reach the forums because the connection between NS proper and the forums is fouled up, and as a result my logins to the nation have been...well, sporadic at best.)

I got halfway through that until my brain exploded...

posting on behalf of the accidentally-ceased Bedistan

And that problem has now been fixed. Thanks to the NS Moderators and to Quakmybush, who alerted me to the problem in the first place. :)

The Federation of Kuczerica wishes to join the tournament. There maybe more interest from other nations in the Region of Kingston (we are very northern). Thanks!

Daniel The Man is up for some World Cup Hockey, the region of Kingston has a strong road hockey tradition stretching back many years.

In case you haven't noticed, Bedistan is going to host the World Cup of Hockey.

Updated sign-ups up to this point

Is it to late to sign up?

Nope. We need more teams.

Is it to late to sign up?

The Armed Republic of Corneliu officially joins the World Cup of Hockey.

...how many more people do we need?

29 is a good even number... lol one more probably, to have equal groups (either 6 groups of 5 or vice versa)

Nope, not at all. Right now I'm prepared to go ahead as soon as we have 32 signups

Hope this helps everyone

Khenas (Puppet of Swilatia) signs up.

Khenas (Puppet of Swilatia) signs up.

Huh. I was gonna do that...

you are allowed to 2 nations (a master and a puppet nation), but in order to have the right to enter one, the World Cup rule will apply: you need to have entered a Cherry Cup before to be able to enter one.

remember that people...:cool:

remember that people...:cool:

Hmm. Damn.

So, how many weeks d'you think it'll take to get two more people?

srry to rain on ur parade like that :(

i dunno how long it will be...

I'll sign up my puppet Allegheny County 2.

now all we need is one more nation :)

i'll sign up my puppet Demot then, but they hate the cold :p

let us begin then :)

Sweeeeeeeet! x^D

now i gotta start making up the Ice Talons' roster

*gets to work on the Tiger Army uniform*

With signups complete, we're ready to start.

As Bedistan was left off the signup list (*slaps Oliverry around a bit with a large trout*), we actually had 33. Elves Security Forces' puppet, Demot, volunteered to withdraw, bringing the number back to 32.

The group draw has been completed; for that I direct you to the new WCoH thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12391164#post12391164).

Bravo to Fort Europe's post on the roster thread. Had me in stitches. :D

Bravo to Fort Europe's post on the roster thread. Had me in stitches. :D

i don't get what was so funny about it :confused:

oh, and is this going to be the OOC thread?

i don't get what was so funny about it :confused:
Well, there's the positions, for one thing. Midfielders are nonexistent in hockey.
There's also the "layers of warm thermal clothing"... Even tropical weather players would end up bathing in their own sweat. Hell, Russian players end up bathed in their own sweat when playing with modern, breathable uniforms.
Then there's the lack of line-changes... which means players will be beyond exhausted after a few minutes. In football, players tend to spend most of their time jogging around at medium pace, then putting forth tremendous spurts of energy, but hockey players have to go for the fences for their entire time on the ice.
And footballers and field hockey players on skates for the first time, trying to play hockey, would be an amusing sight to see.
oh, and is this going to be the OOC thread?

I assume so. *shrug* Why make a new thread for it when we already have one?

Well, there's the positions, for one thing. Midfielders are nonexistent in hockey.
There's also the "layers of warm thermal clothing"... Even tropical weather players would end up bathing in their own sweat. Hell, Russian players end up bathed in their own sweat when playing with modern, breathable uniforms.
Then there's the lack of line-changes... which means players will be beyond exhausted after a few minutes. In football, players tend to spend most of their time jogging around at medium pace, then putting forth tremendous spurts of energy, but hockey players have to go for the fences for their entire time on the ice.
And footballers and field hockey players on skates for the first time, trying to play hockey, would be an amusing sight to see.


I assume so. *shrug* Why make a new thread for it when we already have one?

okay that all makes sense srry, i don't watch alot of hockey :p


yeah i guess this should be the OOC thread

I was hoping Fort Europe was kidding. But looking back...

Hold on a moment, I thought this was the World Cup of Hockey... where did the ice come from? Well if you're going to play a traditional field sport on ice then I definatly won't be RP'ing seriously, anyone know the rules for this Hockey on Ice?

...Field hockey is actually more popular than hockey in some places? Wow... I guess this is how the English must feel when they see the popularity of association football in America...

oh, and is this going to be the OOC thread?

Yeah, let's go ahead and do that - saves me the trouble of making another new thread. :p

I was hoping Fort Europe was kidding. But looking back...



...Field hockey is actually more popular than hockey in some places? Wow... I guess this is how the English must feel when they see the popularity of association football in America...

Over in Europe, soccer and field hockey are more popular than ice hockey.

not in all of Europe

Over in Europe, soccer and field hockey are more popular than ice hockey.

actually ice hockey is quite popular in Finland.

actually ice hockey is quite popular in Finland.

And Slovakia. And the Czech Republic. And Russia. And Sweden. And... Hmm. I think it's pretty popular in Germany, too... Any cold country, really.

SNIP
Uh... is a team composed of animals even legal? Not to mention there are twelve of them, and they all seem to intend to play at once...

That being said, I can't wait to play 'em. :D

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r56/kelchek/media/national-independent.gif

Hockey Kelssek withdraws from World Cup

The club vs. country tug-of-war has come to another head as Hockey Kelssek officially withdrew from the first World Cup of Hockey after KHL teams refused to release Kelssek's internationals for the competition with the regular season coming to a close and the Desjardins Cup playoffs looming.

The acrimonious battle is the second act of another recent battle before the Winter Olympics in Keto last November which saw Hockey Kelssek sending the national under-21 team instead. But Hockey Kelssek says if they can't send the best team to the World Cup, Kelssek won't be going at all.

"First and foremost, it's a matter of giving the competition the respect it deserves. We wouldn't be doing that if we didn't send our best team. As it stands we will not take part in the upcoming World Cup of Hockey." said Hockey Kelssek communications representative Dennis Myer.

The public backlash against the KHL for refusing to push back the playoffs, and to a lesser extent, team managers for refusing to release players, has been growing and hit a new level of intensity with the news. But with the hostility between the association and the clubs who believe that Hockey Kelssek is too demanding of their star internationals, a solution is extremely unlikely at this point.

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OOC: Yes, I'm withdrawing. I'll be away so no point in taking part.

Uh... is a team composed of animals even legal? Not to mention there are twelve of them, and they all seem to intend to play at once...

That being said, I can't wait to play 'em. :D

Questioning the legality of our national animal? Ooh, better not let Tiddles II hear that...

OOC: Yes, I'm withdrawing. I'll be away so no point in taking part.

Well, in that case, I thank you for doing so before matches actually got started. :)

Official announcement: Demot (puppet of Elves Security Forces), which was withdrawn due to overflow, shall be reinstated to the competition. The existing group draws stand, with Demot placed in the slot where Kelssek had been.

For future reference, scorination will generally be done relatively late in the evening, North America Eastern time. In fact, here's what I'm planning for scorination tonight:

North America (east coast): 11:20pm (hopefully Jolt will be back by then...)
North America (west coast): 8:20pm
UK: 4:20am (sorry, guys)
Central Europe: 5:20am
The merry ol' land of Oz (east coast): 2:20pm

Most nights, scorination will occur sometime between 7pm and midnight North America Eastern. Scores for Group G will hopefully be relatively close to the rest, though that depends on the immediate availability of the third-party scorer.

For future reference, scorination will generally be done relatively late in the evening, North America Eastern time. In fact, here's what I'm planning for scorination tonight:

North America (east coast): 11:20pm (hopefully Jolt will be back by then...)
North America (west coast): 8:20pm
UK: 4:20am (sorry, guys)
Central Europe: 5:20am
The merry ol' land of Oz (east coast): 2:20pm

Most nights, scorination will occur sometime between 7pm and midnight North America Eastern. Scores for Group G will hopefully be relatively close to the rest, though that depends on the immediate availability of the third-party scorer.

Who is the 3rd party scorer, anyway?

Who is the 3rd party scorer, anyway?

Liverpool England, who is not involved in the competition at all.

You've got to be kidding me...
*threatens to Poke Check everyone, and i mean everyone!*

I missed it.

two time cherry cup host and i miss sign ups. :(


I am soooo gatecrashing this thing.
who wants to have a crazy Squornshelan with an exploding hockey stick disrupt their match?

so is this happening or what?

so is this happening or what?

It's already done.