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Welcome, to those staring in horror at the CasFM bid, to the

UNICODE (UNImplemented Capitalists with Obfuscated and Debatable Existence) World Cup 33 Bid Thread
or, for those of you who want to know who the hosts actually are, the The HURD/자스연 (Jasīʼyūn) bid

Format
There will be a two-stage qualification process. However, unlike the CasFM bid, high-ranked teams will receive a bye to the second stage of qualifying.

The qualifying format is designed assuming 92 teams will sign up (it will be modified if needed). The bottom 60 ranked teams (excluding the hosts) will participate in the first stage of qualifying, arranged in 10 groups of 6. The top 3 teams in each group will advance to the second stage.
RPers among the top 30 teams will be invited to a tournament during the first stage of qualifying, which will have no effect on anything except the level of boredom and the number of friendly matches to be scheduled.

The second stage will involve the 30 qualifiers from the first stage and the top 30 ranked teams, drawn into 15 groups of 4. The top 2 teams from each group will qualify for the World Cup.

While the byes do give an advantage to the allegedly-entrenched top 30, they have to face much stronger opposition in the second stage of qualifying than they do in a conventional qualifying group, giving a greater chance of upsets. A test simulation using this format, similar to that provided by Casari and Fmjphoenix, can be found at http://www.thirdgeek.com/ns/worldcup/33/testsim1/ (http://www.thirdgeek.com/ns/worldcup/33/testsim1/).

Scorinator
Matches will be scorinated using leagion (specifically, using the KPB-points formula in leagion). An quantity-based RP bonus will be used, but the effect of the bonus will be randomized.

Other
Please post any questions you may have about the bid in this thread. It is a beta version, after all :p

Scorinator
Matches will be scorinated using leagion (specifically, using the KPB-points formula in leagion). An quantity-based RP bonus will be used, but the effect of the bonus will be randomized.


I am a bit puzzled about what the bolded bit means? Does that mean that one RP done for MD1 could be worth more or less than that same RP should it happen for MD4?

Basically... yes... every RP has a different effect on the ranking. It can add a bit, it can add much, it can erase your iKPB and set it to 0*... After the quest for the perfect RP-bonus could not be finished successfully, we try something really different.

Just kidding, there always will be an increment to the iKPB

Oh. My. God. No. :eek:

*reads white text*

Evil. Evil. Evil.

I think the way how some people post boring repetitive RPs just for the bonus defeats the point of the NSWC.

How do you propose to deal with the KpB rankings? Especially with top ranked teams getting byes it seems like your proposed system is craziness.

How do you propose to deal with the KpB rankings? Especially with top ranked teams getting byes it seems like your proposed system is craziness.
Presumably, byes to the second stage would be dealt with exactly like the auto-qualification of hosts—each top-30 team would get two points per first-stage match.

and non-advancing teams get their points spread out over the whole of qualifying?

Sounds a bit like the UEFA system! THE UEFA and Champions League.

I like it, except for the randomization thing. Might prove interesting though.

The HURD;12221962']Basically... yes... every RP has a different effect on the ranking. It can add a bit, it can add much, it can erase your iKPB and set it to 0*... After the quest for the perfect RP-bonus could not be finished successfully, we try something really different.

color=white Just kidding, there always will be an increment to the iKPB color

Oh yes?

So a quality RP of length from, say, Errinundera will still always be worth more than a brief summation of match facts from, say, Northern Caesarea, right?

Oh yes?

So a quality RP of length from, say, Errinundera will still always be worth more than a brief summation of match facts from, say, Northern Caesarea, right?
There is no bonus for quality. Any RP other than “Aquilla won over Busby 3–1” has the same probability of getting the same bonus. Errinundera has a 50% chance of getting a higher bonus than Northern Caesarea, which isn’t much different than what would happen with a quality-based bonus—the only difference is that the random bonus doesn’t depend on who is scorinating.

There is no bonus for quality. Any RP other than “Aquilla won over Busby 3–1” has the same probability of getting the same bonus. Errinundera has a 50% chance of getting a higher bonus than Northern Caesarea, which isn’t much different than what would happen with a quality-based bonus—the only difference is that the random bonus doesn’t depend on who is scorinating.

At this point, on the basis of the currently available bids, I'm strongly tempted to vote for no one to host WC33, and to skip straight on to inviting bids to co-host WC34.

Then spare us and don't vote for anyone. :p

At this point, on the basis of the currently available bids, I'm strongly tempted to vote for no one to host WC33, and to skip straight on to inviting bids to co-host WC34

Huh. At this point there are three bids available. Two provide new direction and one is a standard bid with two energetic hosts. I don't know what exactly it is that you want out of a bid, but one of the three ought to give it to you.