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The Dawn of the Third Republic

Lietuveska
29-12-2006, 02:39
OOC: For OOC info and rambling, go to the bottom of this post. :P
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IC:

Excerpt from the Ovistad Post.

The first sunrise of a new beginning occurs over the deep blue horizon. The sandy beaches of Ovistad glitter in the golden glow of early dawn. Bright, colorful birds begin to sing their happy tunes as leaves shudder in a light wind. Calm and peaceful is the Earth, a perfect setting for the first day of the Third Republic.

For decades Lietuveska has faced hardship, strife, and repression. When the original USSL collapsed and paved the way for Boris Kasparov, all was not lost. In fact, Kasparov's creation of the United Republics of the Hvittsted Pact enabled Lietuveska and its sister states to move onward to peace, power, and prosperity. However, assassins seem to rule the world. On a fateful day, the glorious leader was killed in cold blood, throwing the Lietuv state into a generation of severe hardship. It began with the Elven plutocracy that put a stranglehold on Lietuv life. Our culture and our lifestyle was threatened by a group that perceived themselves to be superior in every way. Trashed were the ways of our ancestors. Then, Itarildë Eledhwen vanquished, and it seemed our day had come.

But alas, Ëtaros Eledhwen, ruler of the colony named after him, proposed a mass migration to his little corner of the world. Sadly, many followed. Traditional Lietuvs remained behind and tried as hard as possible to stake out an independent life. But the former colonial governor sought to own an empire, and crushed our lifestyle further in the process.

Elven dominance is responsible for Lietuv repression. It is the reason that we exist today as a shadow of our glorious and enigmatic past.

We battled, through democracy, the attempts of the totalitarian regime to opress us. We continued our fight -- even our sympathetic brothers in Etaros attempted to appeal to the throne, to no avail. Ëtaros Eledhwen was a monstrous leader, an evil dictator that used his power to forge great alliances with powerful nations to better his own position and standing, but did little to promote the welfare of those that he ruled, including Lietuvs.

Hope again shone once the plutocratic rule of elves was destroyed and replaced with a human government. The human government was a democracy, and it seemed that we would finally see independence from this former colony. How outrageous it is that the Lietuv Republic was oppressed by a colony! How bold are those who suggest we were fretful and rebellious! Our esteemed nation had been destroyed by a group of the few in a matter of months.

Nevertheless, we continued to appeal for independence from those that never had a right to take it. Much to the dismay of Lietuvs, the new democratically elected Etarosi government was just as hostile to our reasonable demands. At long last, a liberation movement began to rise up in response to nearly two decades of repression and opression.

The Lietuv Republican Front began attacking key positions and assets of the Etarosi government, and Etaros responded with military force. This action further incited violence and unrest in the Lietuv populace.

The inability of the Erasati Republic to grant independence to our nation led to its downfall. Coupled with several other factors, its struggle to hold onto our nation led to its collapse. Now, as this is put to print, Etaros finds itself in a dire political, economic, and military situation.

It is disappointing that our freedom must come at the cost of others, but it does not make our independence any less amazing. We are now behind our government, with Premier Alexi Kasparov due to give a speech and announce the first official day of the Third Republic. In brotherhood,

The Editorial Staff of the Ovistad Post
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OOC: I'm back. :D Not necessarily full-time, but hey, it should still be interesting. I've always had this sort of nostalgia about Lietuveska, so I decided, "Why not?" Don't expect me to churn out posts daily but I will be fairly active.

So yes. I'll be posting the speech tomorrow probably, unless I get extremely bored tonight. Go ahead and send congrats, condemnations, etc. via your nation governments. If you have any OOC questions or comments, just TG me.

:)
Lietuveska
09-01-2007, 21:06
Sunny skies over Lietuveska greeted snow-covered hills and plains in the early January morning. On what would normally be a busy day, cars slept in their driveways and people rested in their cozy beds. Today was the first day of Independence Festival, a week-long celebration in commemoration of Lietuv victory over Etarosi occupation. Thus, most businesses and public institutions closed their doors for the first day of the event, to be marked by the Premier's "First Address" to Lietuveska since his inauguration weeks ago. Across the nation, a bright and sustained optimism prevailed in the air. Excitement was ripe as Lietuvs had just elected their first permanent government in over two long and arduous decades. At last, their will had been recognized with the coming of freedom.

Church bells rang across all cities, towns, and villages in the Baltic nation at noon. The cacophonic noise officially marked the beginning of Independence Festival, and the festivities indeed began. People cheered, sang, and danced in town squares across the powder-white land. Large plazas in the biggest cities were crowded as popular bands kept the atmosphere lively and loud. Lietuvs joined in a unified commemoration of their historical achievement.

Inside Executive Headquarters, Alexi Kasparov read over his address, which had been revised and shortened numerous times. His tiny, rectangular glasses reflected the bright sunlight pouring into the presidential apartment within the EHQ. A bright day was ahead, figuratively and literally. His soft, blue eyes scanned the speech quickly, looking for errors or lines he wanted to change. The son of the late Boris Kasparov, Alexi knew that his father's legacy would prove hard to match. All Lietuvs were counting on him to, in essence, be a rebirth of his father. Many talked of a "Kasparov Renaissance" in which peace, stability, and strength would return to the nation has a whole. Some even called for a return to the URHP, or the United Republics of the Hvittsted Pact, a federation of four Lietuv provinces that provided stronger central authority for the Premier with the guise of providing more autonomy. Under Boris Kasparov's rule, the URHP achieved unprecedented economic, political, and military power. His sudden death ended supremacy as quickly as it had formed.

Alexi had been a key figure in his father's administration, mostly helping with diplomatic missions and public relations issues. When his father died and Itarildë Eledhwen took control, he was the first to begin a nationwide petition first requesting, then demanding, a return to democratic rule of and by the people. His efforts proved fruitless. When Itarildë died, he thought he may have a chance with her son, Ëtaros, who planned to forge a nation out of the colony with the same name. However, Alexi became disappointed and discouraged when he learned that Lietuveska was to be a colony of the new Erasat. For years, the resistance lie dormant under increasing oppression. However, when chaos gripped the Erasat, Alexi returned to the spotlight and demanded freedom once more. Ëtaros Eledhwen, under pressure, was forced to allow democracy to prevail in his nation, ending over a decade of elven plutocracy there. With the rise of the Erasati Republic, many Lietuvs also had risen hopes that independence would be granted to them at last. It was not so, and finally Alexi Kasparov and a number of others declared independence and led an open revolt against Etarosi forces in Lietuveska. Some terrorist acts were even carried out in Etaros proper on military and government targets, though this is not publically acknowledged by Lietuv officials.

Seen as a leader of the resistance and revolution, Alexi Kasparov knew that he had much to achieve in a very short time. It was possible, yes, but he knew the tasks ahead were daunting. He had wanted to do it, of course, and was determined to succeed.

A little while later...

The crowds in the plaza below went wild with fervor when Alexi stepped from the doors of his balcony and stood to address them. He smiled and nodded, waiting for the cheering to end. When it finally did, he spoke.

"Today, we celebrate the consolidated victory of many years and endless tears, thousands of acts of heroism, and millions of affirmative votes for an truly free and independent Lietuveska. Today, you and I permanently reclaim Lietuveska as our own."

Cheers erupted once again and it took several moments for the din to die down.

"We are right to be proud, justified to feel happy, and correct to be optimistic. There are bright and fortunate days ahead of us, for the darkness of the past is now only a nightmarish history that shall never rear its ugly head in our taut and vigilant eyes again. Unwarranted occupation and aggression is a thing of yesterday, never to be resurfaced on our watch. Tyranny is dead, for we have killed it with the hammer of democracy forever. Yesterday will not be forgotten, and tomorrow will always be welcome. We move forward and remember, we move to become better upon where we have been trampled, and we will cry victorious in years to come.

"In this new age, we must be determined to overcome all obstacles that dare cross our paths. We cannot sit and wait. My administration will be one of action, planning, and further action. Those of you who do not see change on the horizon are horribly mistaken. Using the tools of democracy and freedom, I will embark on a path that shall lead Lietuveska to glory and power, to wealth and prosperity, to heatlh and improved intellect. We have got to get started, and it must begin now. Today, the bells rang in commemoration. Today, I will begin the daunting task of correcting over two decades of abuse."

The Premier went on for another hour to outline and describe his goals for Lietuveska and the world. His speech would be quoted repeatedly in newspapers and in the media. The government planned to produce a document called the "Kasparov Strategy", to be released in a matter of days. It was highly rumored that Etaros would not receive a bit of mercy from Lietuveska, and that all allies of Etaros would be questioned on their lack of foresight and understanding for a nation trapped in the death throes of a horrific and imperialist nation.

Statistics of the Eduskriega

Unicameral parliament of Lietuveska. Prime Minister is a selected member from the largest party who does not create his or her own cabinet, but sits in the Premier's cabinet with the authorities of one that is second in command. Eduskriega is wholly elected every five years, to coincide with the Premier's election every five years. The size of Eduskriega is solely determined by population, and representation is direct and also determined by population. All members of Eduskriega are elected by popular vote. Current size is 600 seats.

United/Capitalist Progress for Lietuveska Coalition (UCPLC) -- 354 seats
New Socialist Coaltion for Lietuveska (NESCOL) -- 198 seats

Lietuv Capitalist Party (LCP) -- 180 seats

Lietuv Unity Movement (LIETUM) -- 174 seats

Lietuv Workers' Party (LIVP) -- 126 seats

Lietuv Environmentalist Action Party (LEAP) -- 60 seats

Social Democrats '40 (SD40) -- 12 seats

National Socialist Party of Lietuveska (NSPL) -- 24 seats

Lietuv Christian Democrats Union (LCDU) -- 18 seats

Lietuv Monarchist Revival Front (LMREF) -- 6 seats

PREMIER'S CABINET

Premier -- Alexi Kasparov (LIETUM)

Prime Minister -- Nikita Bloschevik (LCP)

Defense Secretary -- Andrei Gregorski (LIETUM)

Foreign Affairs Secretary -- Kaleb Van Arsden (LIETUM)

Trade Secretary -- Lukas Petroni (LCP)

Finance Secretary -- Adrianna Weston (LCP)

Public Health Secretary -- Ivana Kasparov (LIETUM)

Public Education Secretary -- Seymon Ratzinger (LIETUM)

Other departments: Urban Development, Environmental Affairs, Veterans Affairs, Justice, Interior, Transportation, etc.
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OOC: And so it begins. I will post the Kasparov Strategy sometime within the next week. Feel free to comment and post..
Lietuveska
16-01-2007, 01:35
The following are important excerpts from The Kasparov Strategy.

The Kasparov Strategy

It is the testament of time that defines all nations, all cultures, and all peoples. The desperate struggle for supremacy and survival has raged for millenia, and shall rage for millenia more... To meet the challenging conditions of the global matrix today and tomorrow, the Third Republic of Lietuveska outlines below a strategy of great import and strength. With this strategy, the leaders Third Republic may better meet the demands of the Lietuv people as well as deal with current and upcoming crises with relative comfort and security.

The Etarosi Question

After decades of occupation, Lietuveska is ready to face Etaros with diligence and strength. The military, economic, and political strength of the former power have been all but decimated as the island nation plummets further into anarchy and economic decline. Due to thinly stretched military forces, poor economic planning, and political crises, Etaros has experienced a decline that is comparable to some late 20th-century African nations.

Ideally, Lietuveska should request reparations totalling over 100 billion LT, equivalent to 87 billion USD. However, the current situation in Etaros does not allow for a rapid payment of this figure, nor would it be permissible for any payments to take place without a drastic slash in the quality of life for the average Etarosi.

In recognition of this fact, the Third Republic will not seek monetary reparations at this time for crimes against the Nation that took place over a stretch of twenty years. Instead, the following plan shall be executed.

I. Etaros shall hereby receive no aid, support, or recognition from the Third Republic of Lietuveska and/or its territories.

II. Sanctions shall be placed against all Etarosi goods, services, and persons seeking entry into Lietuveska and/or its territories.

III. The Third Republic of Lietuveska shall maintain a naval battlegroup near Etarosi waters to monitor the rogue state's activity.

-- Any action taken against this battlegroup in international waters shall be promptly received as a declaration of war.

-- Any Etarosi action taken against this battlegroup in international waters shall be promptly received as a declaration of war. The Third Republic shall then assume control of Etaros by military force.

IV. Etarosi nationals residing in Lietuveska or its territories before the start of Independence Festival shall be granted amnesty to the aforementioned sanction against all Etarosi persons. Any Etarosi national having begun residence in Lietuveska or its territories at or after the start of Indepedence Festival are ordered to leave immediately.

The Menelmacari Question

As the Erasat's largest and most powerful ally, the Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar offered political, economic, and military backing to Etaros. It was indeed the closest and most significant ally to the Erasat, especially during the Vaadian Crisis. During the reign of Ëtaros, vast portions of Lietuv Havenic land were simply donated to Menelmacar, without recognition of the Lietuv populace that lived there or once lived there. Due to the sudden loss of cultural lands dear to the Lietuv people, the cultural integrity of the Nation was threatened. Menelmacar established bases on this former land and used it as a military testing site and a buffer zone from the annoying and petty communist nation of Hogsweat. As a consequence, Lietuveska's existence was placed in jeopardy.

The Third Republic expresses its outrage at Menelmacari ignorance to the aggression and repression that took place next door to its large and generous landmass in Haven. Elven plutocracy and cronyism once again prevailed over the common desire and rights of men and women, specifically those of Lietuveska. It is our duty and pleasure to announce the following plan to deal with Menelmacar's nearly direct support of Etarosi oppression and occupation of the Lietuv people.

I. Lietuveska and its territories shall not recognize the Menelmacari government until the following actions have been taken:

-- Menelmacar shall apologize publically for its dismissal of repressive actions taken by the Etarosi government against ethnic Lietuvs.

-- Menelmacar shall back this apology with 10 billion LT in order to assist Lietuv Haven to rebuild its infrastructure and rise to an acceptable level of economic success.

-- Menelmacar shall condemn publically the actions taken by Etaros over the past two decades. It shall be accepted if the current government is not condemned.

II. Lietuveska and its territories shall place an economic sanction against the Noldorin Empire's goods and services if the aforementioned requests are not met.

The Midlonian Question

During the height of Lietuv resistance against Etarosi military occupation approximately three years ago, Midlonia offered assistance to the Erasati Republic to disrupt the shipment of vital goods and services to Lietuv Havenic territories. Although no Midlonian action was taken against Lietuveska proper, the aggression is equivalent.

As such, for its support of Etarosi aggression, occupation, and oppression, the Midlonian government shall apologize with the backing of 200 million LT for its assistance in the cultural, political, and economic decline of the Lietuv Nation. If this reasonable request is refused or ignored, the following action shall take place.

I. Lietuveska and its territories shall refuse to recognize Midlonia as a nation-state.

II. Lietuveska and its territories shall place an economic sanction upon Midlonian goods and services.

The Knootian Question

Once a firm and strong ally of the Lietuv people and nation, Knootoss has become a foe due to its support of and dealings with the Etarosi government. During the rise of the Erasat, the Knootian government failed to understand the Lietuv position and thus betrayed Lietuv officials and, most importantly, the people. As the Erasat grew in power, the Knootians even became less supportive, seeking to be on the winning side of the issue. Perhaps Knootoss was slightly ignorant of the Lietuv situation, though this is totally inexcusable due to the amount of dialogue that took place between Knootian and Lietuv officials before the Erasat began its systematic program of oppression.

As such, the disgust with Knootoss is paramount. During the Vaadian Crisis, Knootoss sided wholly with the Erasati throne. It even planned to assume control of Hvittsted, the long-time cultural, economic, and political center of Lietuveska before the opressive regime of Ëtaros began. These two actions alone should warrant a justified military strike on Knootian territories.

However, the Third Republic of Lietuveska is a nation and a people of great moral fiber. As such, it shall take the following action in regard to Knootian actions and assistance of Etarosi tyranny if conditions do not improve.

I. Lietuveska and its territories shall refuse to recognize Knootoss as a nation-state.

II. Lietuveska and its territories shall immediately withdraw all persons from Knootian territories, and vice versa.

III. Lietuveska and its territories shall have no diplomatic, economic, or otherwise personal or business-related contact with the government of Knootoss and its territories.

These actions may be avoided through extensive diplomatic talks that we wholly welcome. Lietuveska is able to forgive, and we wish to improve relations with all the aforementioned nations. It is mainly our objective to repair what has been harmed rather than simply express anger and take brash action.

A Chance for Friendship

There are three significant powers that either remained neutral or totally supported Lietuv nationalism during the time of tyranny for our nation. They remained civil, logical, and morally strong. Those three nations are as follows:

1. The United Solaris Federation of Tiburon
2. The Dominion of Dread Lady Nathicana
3. The Free Republic of Ilek-Vaad

The Third Republic of Lietuveska shall fully and totally seek furthered diplomatic, economic, cultural, and military relations with the aforementioned nations, most especially the first two...

Conclusion

The Lietuv nation has faced many struggles in its past, and shall face many challenges in its future. However, with the strength of unity and friendship, the Third Republic will rise to a greater power than all those before it. Through expansive military, diplomatic, and economic projects, we shall become once again a power with which to be reckoned.

Unlike many nation-states, Lietuveska vows to never use its newly rediscovered power to the disadvantage of any peoples, cultures, or nation-states. We vow to use power in the name of justice...

Peace, power, and prosperity are paramount to success. With viligance, determination, and the resolve that is so normal for Lietuvs, the Third Republic shall be successful without doubt.
Midlonia
17-01-2007, 00:03
The Lieutv Question.

The people of the disputed region of Lieutveska were involved in acts of piracy and theft and terrorism from within the Greater Kingdom of Midlonia, as such the Government of the Greater Kingdom has issued the following requests.

Weaponry stolen from the Greater Kingdom is to be payed for, the estimates of M£2 Billion for the raiding and destruction of several Midlonian Weapons storage facilities within the Region of Montmarte, and the stealing of the contents contained within said facilities, as such, the Government demands the following.

* The Payment Compensation in the form of M£200 Million for the deaths of 14 Royal Naval Personnel on the Gun-Cutter Patrol Boat Jacobite.

* The Payment of Compensation in the form of M£90 Million, for the serious maiming of 10 Royal Naval Personnel on the aforementioned.

* The Payment of Compensation in the form of M£100 Million for the mental and emotional distress of the Royal Naval Personnel on the aforementioned.

* The Payment for the replacement of the engines on the aforementioned, costing approximately M£2Million.

If such reasonable demands of the total sum of M£2.19 Billion payed in compensation to the Government of the Greater Kingdom are not met, then the following action[s] shall take place.

I. The Greater Kingdom of Midlonia will declare the Third Republic of Lietuveska a rogue state and disputed territory, lowering its status in the eyes of the Greater Kingdom.

II. The total sum of compensation will be gained via any means deemed necessary by the Government of the Greater Kingdom, this may include the following:
A. The entering of Lietuv territory to gain goods and/or services equivalent to the sum aforementioned.

B. The boarding and confiscation of any ships flying the flag of the Third Republic to gain goods and/or services equivalent to the aforementioned.

C. The seizing of Lietv land and industry[ies] equivalent to the aforementioned compensation total, or what the Greater Kingdom’s Government may deem as equivalent sum.
The Ctan
17-01-2007, 00:07
OOC: What the fuck? Will you bloody well stop going incommunicado for months and then appearing in some new hellhole state and attacking us for not doing anything at all to help you during this time? We can only react to what information we get. I for one never heard OOCly anything of Etarosi oppression, and consequently could do all of diddly about it, even though had I known of this (retroactive continuity?) I would most certainly have taken action. Consequently, your IC response will reflect these vast swathes of inactivity and absence that you expect us to take. The only way we wouldn't act to help Etaros is if we were not capable of doing so. Therefore, that is what I will assume has happened. As usual, this post is subject to Siri’s OOC approval, and may change at a later date. I will edit it if and when such approval is obtained. IC:

“We're sorry. We're sorry you went completely incommunicado for years and refused to acknowledge even our civilian phone calls. We're sorry you disappeared off the face of the Earth, and every effort made to verify your continued existence turned up negative. We’re sorry this keeps on happening, and that you keep on disappearing into a big black void marked ‘non-existence’ and coming back in some new, half-ruined state, blaming us, over and over, for letting some oppression in a land we’re never able to contact and which, to the entire outside world, seems to be simply gone. We’re sorry you keep on blaming us for actions we could not possibly have undertaken – last we heard of you was during an exodus run by some descendant of Celebrimbor who he’d never heard of before – and we’re really, really sorry that in some immense fractal burp, what we previously believed to be a comparatively equitable leadership with a decent record was retconned into some kind of tyrannical despotism.

“We’re sorry that the same fractal burp suddenly means Etaros, whom we last saw as a moderately successful state, is now mired in some kind of super-recession, and will immediately begin assessing means to rectify this appalling situation.

“We’re sorry your request for developmental aid is so insulting, though we are nonetheless prepared to pay it, immediately, with a matching contribution from The C’tan to make the total double what you ask.

“We’re also sorry that despite this insane fractal twist in the very fabric of existence, we remain obliged by our treaty commitments to defend Etaros from any attack or foreign incursion. Overall, we’re especially sorry that you seem to be determined to take an aggressive stand against the sovereignty of a Veritas nation, and we’re equally sorry that this idiocy, unless you disappear again, may end with us being obliged to harm you. That would be a true tragedy.”

Haryon Maglor Makalaurë Kanafinwë nos Fëanor
Menelmacari Prefect of Compassionate Relief
Austar Union
17-01-2007, 00:55
Posted by the Anatoba City Journal

Kasparov's Claims Are A Joke, Say Historians
Written by Jennifer Zakone

"Searching for a needle in a haystack is one thing, but this is ridiculous," laughs Jack Miller, one of seven Austarian historians who are desperatly trying to find some kind of evidence of so called 'Lietuv oppression'. "What they call potato, I call potaetoe. There is absolutely no evidence in all of our public records that his claims of oppression had ever happened."

Making daring remarks indeed, Jack Miller is not alone. Almost twenty historians have come forth already now claiming this very same thing.

"Truth be told," says Jack. "I believe the Etarosi to be quite benevolent dictators. Although, if there is some kind of base to his claims, any kind of base at all... then it was some cover up."

Jack laughed again.

Asking another historian, Burgess Giliard, I was curious as to what might Kasparov been believing to be oppression, since I was also curious about how this could be so real to him. He obviously belived in 'something'.

"He struggled for democracy," replied Ms Giliard when I asked her. "Kasparov was one of the strongest voices calling for the Etarosi government to allow for voting. Funnily enough, it was a period which terrorism was rampant also..." She allowed her voice to trail off, letting me form my own conclusions. "He probably sees being denied the 'right to vote' as Holocaust-like oppression against his people,. He's trying to be like Moses to the Lietuveskans, except his people weren't really suffering. The Egyptians in this story were taking quite well of him."

In the meantime, when I presented these arguements to Political Commentater Malcolm Flurry, he thought it less of a joke.

"It's quite alarming," he replied. "Mostly at how he responded to this belief which seems to be mostly existant in his head entirely. I would recommend to the international community that when dealing with Alexi Kasparov, they be very cautious of the condition of his mental health."

He folded his arms, "Look, anyone looks into public records of Etaros, they will find that they were a very open nation in the way that they dealt with internal problems. They wouldn't have had the capacity to oppress the Lietuv peoples let alone be able to hide it from us. There would have been at least one sign of it somewhere. But there is nothing."

"There is a thin line in politics, and it gets drawn when you make up false accusations, and then further accuse other entities of ignoring this so called existant situation."

He gave a light snort, "Don't pay any attention to this liar."
Lietuveska
17-01-2007, 05:42
OOC:

Perhaps I should have added a detailed OOC paragraph or two to the post. Those that were mentioned in the post were TG'ed and notified with a full explanation that anything said IC was not the result of any hard feelings.

For anyone familiar with the Etarosi-Lietuv relationship, it has long been one of occupation. This is not a matter of debate, it is just simply true. When I roleplayed as Etaros, I did so with the idea of an elven nation that held justice and equality as a high concern for the Etarosi people. Fairness was an objective with regards to the administration of Lietuveska.

However, under any circumstance, it is undeniable that the donation of land without a referendum amongst its cultural and ethnic inhabitants is unfair and inhumane. At the time, I obviously roleplayed it as if it were the sovereign right to donate territory of Etaros. However, anyone familiar with Lietuv history will also understand that the Lietuvs had since come to consider themselves as a specific ethnic and cultural group created from a mixture of other older groups (Slavs, Poles, etc.). Because of this, the donation of territory to Menelmacar was a direct theft of cultural lands of the Lietuv.

To directly respond to the Ctan's OOC post, I first have to say that I have always considered time very fluid and subject to my determination in NS roleplaying. In the past, when I did go off for months at a time and return, I usually returned on the premise that I was picking up where I left off, and thus picking up on relations where I left off.

I must apologize for my long absences without communication to anyone. It was surely unfair to those that I was involved with on a roleplaying level, and selfish to even try after I knew that my fun factor with Etaros was a lost cause.

With that said, I thought it was clear that Lietuveska has JUST been liberated within the withdrawal of Etarosi troops with the past game year, and by logical assumption, that Etaros has JUST hit trouble at home. It does not take long for governments to collapse.

Ctan, I'm disappointed that you seem angry and bitter, and that the "pause" button seems to have little meaning to you.

Charges made against me that this has all been created are true. But that does not mean it is illogical. You must remember that these people were the ones that stayed. Many, many Lietuv human beings left their Havenic homeland and left for Etaros with the mass migration that I did indeed post waaay back. They attempted to recreate their culture there, which received some but not much attention in my RP history with Etaros. Those that stayed, therefore, were the fanatical patriots. They were the ones that insisted on autonomy. I'm afraid that this was not overly emphasized simply because it was not of interest to the Etarosi government, as made clear by the donation of Lietuv land.

Ctan, I did not expect anyone to take anything personally. If I am to ever go on absence again (which I don't expect to do), then let it be known that my end of everything is to be put on pause, as I have practiced in the past unless otherwise stated in a post. I don't think I was condemning anyone PERSONALLY and OOC for not posting aid and relief efforts, not once did I PERSONALLY and OOC condemn anyone for not helping the Lietuv people. Why? Because there was little way for you to even know because the full story was just created about two weeks ago.

Instead of OOCly reacting the way you did, I simply expected those in question to post their reactions in character and maybe offer an OOC comment or two for whatever reason. It was not my intention to stir up any sort of shit with anyone.

Sorry for not making these point clear to begin with. I will respond to the reactions by the end of the week. And while we're on that subject of my responses:

I am back, but my activity won't be extremely heavy. Four posts per week will be the maximum for me most likely. I have school, work, and friends and family to all juggle. But I want to do this, and I'm serious about it.

Thanks.

EDIT: I'm not bitching about any IC responses. Those are all gravy. I'll get to them, as I said. Just want to make sure things are all cool in OOC matters. :)
The Ctan
17-01-2007, 10:53
OOC:

Perhaps I should have added a detailed OOC paragraph or two to the post. Those that were mentioned in the post were TG'ed and notified with a full explanation that anything said IC was not the result of any hard feelings.
Err. At present, I'm doing the vast majority of posting for Menelmacar. Siri is rarely if ever on, and I don't think she even reads any telegrams she recieves.

As for the rest of it, my reaction is such because, it's the only way your claims can possibly be reconciled with my nation. It doesn't stand by and allow its allies to implode, nor does Menelmacar. One terrorist attack in TRD and the latter's scurrying about like a kicked over anthill and sending ten thousand soldiers to hunt down three enemies. The reaction to (another) Etarosi collapse would be appropriately magnified.

As for Siri's Havenic territories, I will ask her when the opprotunity arises, but as far as I know, she's been presuming them to have been empty land; with, consequently, no one there to oppress. I even think she's actually sold some of them on, precisely because there's nothing of any value in them. So again, any 'cultural oppression' of people there is going to be ICly greeted with blank looks and 'What? You'll be telling me there's natives out on Charon next...' What exactly is the story there? Are there meant to be people there now? Are there meant to be people who want to go there?

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A large portrait of a dark haired, young looking elf-woman hung in a gilded frame on the wall, looking down over the room. Maglor shifted his foot under the lion-sized wolfhound that lay on it, and the Aelosian dog twitched his feet a little and rhythmically beat his tail on the floor, and sipped from a wide cup of hot chocolate that fit the term bowl as well as it did mug. The late night lights of Vinyatirion could be seen, though only some of the higher buildings were visible on the north-eastward facing the room’s window looked out on,, and he considered what’d be happening at the Artaoron in the morning.

Already this new Etaros situation was cutting into his budget; or rather, into his resources. The money itself came from the strategic funds supply, which was, in theory, kept for just this sort of thing. But nonetheless, it meant that in the next few years, PCR funding would have to be cut, and that would reduce the prefecture’s available resources and manpower fractionally. He could live with that, quite easily, if it were all he needed to worry about.

Alas, it wasn’t. The situation in Etaros was almost certainly going to demand a great deal of his attention in the next few years, to a degree that would probably cut deeply into the prefecture’s solvency. Its main issues often tended to be how much it could rapidly deploy, rather than how much it needed to spend; the Prefecture had vast supplies of essentials ranging from food supplies of several types through to prefabricated housing. In the same way, they needed various other supplies and experts, some of whom needed retainers to keep them solvent, as their skills were so specialised.

He sighed, and picked up a small document-reader style device.


Minutes of Initial Meeting, Workgroup Etaros, Terkhelek Institute
Present:
Artano [Attached Bio]
Falmaion [Attached Bio]
Malinlaire [Attached Bio]
Masule [Attached Bio]
Tinwedil [Attached Bio]

Tin: Okay, won’t bother with introductions, you all know the brief. Standard governmental commission, subject to the usual confidentiality arrangements; disclose anything here to anyone you shouldn’t and they’ll sneak a grenade into your dinner.
All – Sniggering, Laughter
Tin: Right. Our problem is this [Attached maps and documentation, Etaros] it seems that we have a rather serious situation here, and responding to it appropriately has become a priority. We’ve got to come up with an action plan that allows us to carry out a few things.
Develop a policy that benefits the people of Etaros.
Retains or boosts our credibility in future dealings and alliance commitments.
Discourages foreign aggression.
Needless to say, given the declared interests so far, number three seems the easiest.

Art: I think we need to look at the legitimacy of the current government of Etaros, [whistling intake of breath] if there’s even anything there that deserves the name. If not, we are –
Mal: All covered in shit.
Tin: Thank you Malinlaire.
Art: Lowering the tone as usual.
All – Laughter
Mal: It’s a fair point though, if there’s no vaguely legitimate government there, then our interaction’s only likely to generate negative reactions.
Art: If there isn’t, I think we’ll have to escalate involvement to an alliance level and seek a mandate for intervention in the Etarosi situation. Let’s hope there’s something more stable than that going around.
Tin: Yes. I’m told that we should have more up to date surveillance in the near future.
Fal: Doesn’t the Charter forbid us to spy on them like that?
Tin: Yep. We’re going to have to announce an investigation into the current Etarosi situation, and conduct it in a transparent manner, tomorrow. On the other hand, that does mean we can dispatch information gathering operatives relatively freely -
Mal: I ain’t goin’!
All – Sniggering, laughter
Tin: Heh. Right. Relatively freely, but we will have to contend with more obvious obstruction efforts if the place is gone completely to warlordism.
Fal: Let’s hope they’re smart enough to figure we’re on their side.
Mas: Fat chance.
Fal: True.
Tin: Hopefully there’s a working government at some level we can work with to recover infrastructure there.
Mas: We might want to consider the level of democracy there as well. If we’re to take these claims seriously, then we might avoid future problems by influencing it that way.
Tin: If we’re in a position to do that, we’d need to go through the Alliance, and that could be unpleasant… Trying to set precedent for something unanticipated.

Maglor read on with a growing feeling of pessimism.
Midlonia
17-01-2007, 16:51
As for Siri's Havenic territories, I will ask her when the opprotunity arises, but as far as I know, she's been presuming them to have been empty land; with, consequently, no one there to oppress. I even think she's actually sold some of them on, precisely because there's nothing of any value in them. So again, any 'cultural oppression' of people there is going to be ICly greeted with blank looks and 'What? You'll be telling me there's natives out on Charon next...' What exactly is the story there? Are there meant to be people there now? Are there meant to be people who want to go there?



OOC: Um, well, there's the small amount of Lieutv territory which was ceceeded to the Menelmacari Enclave as part of the former Allanean "Hestonia" which changed the border very little, not enough for anybody to seriously notice or care but still Really could do with talking to Siri about the M.E's anyhow...
Knootian East Indies
17-01-2007, 23:51
From: Trouw

Daatman ignores Lietuv threats
"Door open", say officials

THE HAGUE – jingoistic talk of a 'justified military strike' against Knootian territories by the newly reformed Lietuv government was met with deafening silence from the Daatman administration on Friday, as the Council of Ministers discussed the issue.

The foreign ministry merely issued a bland statement on Saturday that it would follow the Melnemacari lead in tackling the issue unless Lietuv diplomats made a concrete proposal for the Dutch Democratic Republics consideration. They further moved to reassure the public that any assault upon the integrity of the Knootian Federation would be dealt with appropriately. “We reject any claims that the Dutch Democratic Republic and its allies have treated the Lietuv nation unfairly” the statement continued. “And the proposed sanctions are consequently unjust. We strongly caution the 'Third Republic' against taking rash action on the basis of national feeling, rather than considering matters of foreign affairs from a realistic perspective.”

Business leaders and political think-tanks expect the right-wing coalition of the Lietuv Capitalist Party (LCP) and the Lietuv Unity Movement (LIETUM) to see sense eventually and fall in line with its natural allies, despite past grudges. “The Knootian door is wide open” an analyst at Global Hell commented. “All the Lietuv have to do is knock.”

“What Lietuveska does or does not do is unimportant” a more cynical high-ranking official said on condition of anonymity. “We believed in the past that a strong Lietuv state could safeguard regional stability in Haven. History has proven this to be impossible. A more realistic approach would be to play ball with the Allaneans, who have proven to at least be a consistent factor in the region, if not always a pleasant one.” He added that he hoped that the Lietuv would not completely destroy Pink Bunny City before an 'inevitable' reproachment.
Menelmacar
18-01-2007, 00:22
Speech by the Elentari, Artaoron, Vinyatirion, Menelmacar

"...And in conclusion, we will be launching a full investigation of the Etaros situation, and sending a deputation of personnel as soon as possible. Furthermore, given the current irrelevance of Haven to our strategic concerns, I have agreed with the Prefecture of Defense that the Hogsweat buffer enclaves flanking Hestonia are no longer required for Etarosi or Lietuv national security, and given current Lietuv malcontent on the issue, they shall be donated as a gift of goodwill to that nation, pending Conclave vote confirming that.

"Of course, the Southern Colony lacks infrastructure beyond its existing military base, which will of course be dismantled. The southern colony shall also be donated to the Lietuvs.

"Additionally, Lady Serendis has recommended to me that we carry out a large-scale orbital weapons test, spread over one solar year, in order to avoid energy release damaging the region unduly, in the colony of Hestonia, which shall eventually excavate a lake with maximum dimensions of five thousand cubic kilometers in central Hestonia. We would of course remind all concerned parties in northern Haven that we remain committed to the national security of all Etarosi possessions past and present, and we will not tolerate adventurism in the region."

Of course, the relevant votes easily passed, many were concerned with the matter…
Tarasovka
18-01-2007, 00:46
From: Ministry of Defence, Taraskovya
To: Prefecture of Defence, Menelmacar
Subject: Excavations in Hestonia
Encryption: Highly Confidential

To whom it may concern,

General-Major Tallulah Perkkonen, Commandant-General of Gagra, the Sovereign Base Area bordering the Menelmacari possession of Hestonia, has informed us with her great concern over the planned Menelmacari operations within the aforementioned territory.

As such, the Grand Duchy wishes to request further information as of the exact area affected by the planned tests so as to make sure Gagra is not affected negatively in any way what so ever.

Thank you for your attention and your continued cooperation.
Midlonia
18-01-2007, 19:45
Speech by the Elentari, Artaoron, Vinyatirion, Menelmacar

"...And in conclusion, we will be launching a full investigation of the Etaros situation, and sending a deputation of personnel as soon as possible. Furthermore, given the current irrelevance of Haven to our strategic concerns, I have agreed with the Prefecture of Defense that the Hogsweat buffer enclaves flanking Hestonia are no longer required for Etarosi or Lietuv national security, and given current Lietuv malcontent on the issue, they shall be donated as a gift of goodwill to that nation, pending Conclave vote confirming that.

"Of course, the Southern Colony lacks infrastructure beyond its existing military base, which will of course be dismantled. The southern colony shall also be donated to the Lietuvs.

"Additionally, Lady Serendis has recommended to me that we carry out a large-scale orbital weapons test, spread over one solar year, in order to avoid energy release damaging the region unduly, in the colony of Hestonia, which shall eventually excavate a lake with maximum dimensions of five thousand cubic kilometers in central Hestonia. We would of course remind all concerned parties in northern Haven that we remain committed to the national security of all Etarosi possessions past and present, and we will not tolerate adventurism in the region."

Of course, the relevant votes easily passed, many were concerned with the matter…

-urk, this diplo-rant thingie removed after having stuff pointed out to me-

~Office of Haven Cartography, currently residing within the Greater Kingdom~

While the cessation of territory of that formerly called Hestonia is agreed, no such similar action will be taken by that in regards to the Southern Portion of the Haven Enclave, upon the offical map this area will be considered as vacant and available for re-settling to other peoples that that of the Lietuv peoples.
The Ctan
18-01-2007, 20:35
From: Lady Serendis, Prefecture of Defence, Menelmacar
To: Ministry of Defence, Tarasovkya
Subject; Hestonia Operations
[Disclosure class: Confidential and in Confidence]

As we’re not actually doing anything secret in Hestonia, please find attached an overview of ‘Operation Noisome Drumming’ to be conducted along the eastern remaining border of Hestonia. We are aware of the legitimate concerns of Tarasovkya in this matter, and wish to reassure you that the operation will of course, be conducted in a manner which will not interrupt the peaceful operations of the Tarasovkyan SBA.

All operations outlined as part of this schedule will be undetectable without instruments within 50 kilometres of the borders of Gagra, though seismic equipment will of course, detect it. If this is a problem, we are willing to reschedule or cancel the operation. Furthermore, activities creating clouds and ejecta will be low-energy enough to result in material so-distributed travelling not more than six hundred kilometres and subject to wind-patterns. They will only be conducted at times when such material will be conducted east or southward.

Preliminary schedule for training and evaluation operations in Hestonia

Month Operations

n+1 Target city complex construction begins (MIDF engineers)
Target bunker complex construction, including sub-crust bunkers
and simulated deep-crust installations begins (MIDF/Necron
engineers)
n+2 Target bunker complex construction ends
Bunker attack simulation begins
(directed energy weapon and current missile evaluation)
n+3 Target city complex construction ends
Armoured warfare interdiction simulation begins
Small-craft ground attack simulation begins
Strategic, regional and anti-shipping missile countermeasures tests
begin
n+4 Armoured warfare interdiction simulation ends
n+5 Bunker attack simulation ends
n+6 Missile countermeasures tests end
Missile test sequences begin
n+7 Small-craft ground attack simulation ends
Attenuated strategic bombardment tests begin.
Seismic and environmental effects shall not exceed 0.1 Ahash
Units/Week
n+8 Classified evaluation begins
n+9 Classified evaluation ends
n+13 Attenuated strategic bombardment tests end

---

To: The Office of Haven Cartography, Midlonia.
From: Prof. Fatima Al-Musawi, Sub. Dept. Demographic and Political Geography, Vin-Prax.
Subject: Hehe.

Nice one. Very amusing. Got a good chuckle here.
Tarasovka
18-01-2007, 23:20
From: Ministry of Defence, Taraskovya
To: Prefecture of Defence, Menelmacar
Subject: Excavations in Hestonia
Encryption: Highly Confidential

To whom it may concern,

The Ministry of Defence and the Grand Ducal Government are satisfied with the clarifications. General Major Perkkonen has received all necessary instructions pertaining to the matter and her personnel shall continue to operate normally, albeit the local surveilance teams shall be a bit more attentive than usual.

On this, we are grateful on your hasty responce and continued cooperation.
Orbitas Enosti
21-01-2007, 07:58
OOC: The Water In Open Palms thread, originally posted under "Etaros" will provide enough backstory and history to allow for a general understanding of how the current situation in Lietuveska developed as well as a prelude to the near-collapse of the Etarosi government. Some of it may not match up with the post below. If so, please assume that the post below is the prevailing story.

IC:

The deployment of twenty-thousand troops to the colony-turned-province of Etarosi Haven never had a chance to take place. Within a day of the formal announcement made by the Erasati government, a massive military assault was directed at Utenshka by the Lietuv Revolutionary Army. Missile attacks were followed by a ground invasion in which the provincial seat declared a state of emergency and began the evacuation of all government officials. Within hours, the entire city was a battlefield, with city blocks exploding in full as resistance forces pushed the EHDF to the beaches. Luckily for the Etarosi and mercenary forces, ships were able to evacuate them as well. Cyrus Kasparov ordered a full retreat and refused to send another force to the former colony. Thus, the LRA declared victory and Alexi Kasparov was placed in charge of an interim and transitional government.

The defeat at Utenshka brought shame and massive unrest to Etaros as the population demanded answers. Although many had supported a free and independent Lietuv republic, they wanted it to be on Etarosi terms in a peaceful transition, not an embarrassing retreat. They demanded to know why their leaders never employed foreign forces to help drive off the revolutionaries, why the EHDF remained so long, and how the government failed to have foresight in the entire debacle.

Unfortunately, Cyrus Kasparov could not answer these questions. His popularity plummeted to under thirty percent in the following days, and the Etarosi people simply proved the, "Etaros: A Revolution Every Year!" joke to become true once again. Although this time, it was fueled by external forces. The source of the attack was never officially verified, but it was widely believed that the LRA wanted to make their victory a solid one, and launched three simultaneous terrorist attacks on government targets in Etaros.

Around four hundred Etarosi were killed in the bloody acts of violence, and another two thousand were wounded. At this point, the Kasparov administration toppled and was replaced by an interim government headed by Oröphin Telemnar nós Fingolfin. He was chosen due to his capabilities in diplomacy and military affairs, not to mention that he proposed a massive surge in forces first. Cyrus Kasparov and several others were arrested on charges of treason, convicted, and hanged. The proceedings were suspected to be extremely biased and unfair, but few Etarosi complained. Most people in the nation considered Cyrus Kasparov to have been an enormous failure and directly responsible for the situation in Etarosi Haven.

As a result of the collapse of the Kasparov administration, doubts about the ability of democracy to survive and thrive in the Erasat proved to be widespread and pervasive. Their former leader, Ëtaros, had been imprisoned for cheating his election (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492980) nearly a decade ago due to his doubts in the democratic system. The big question that loomed over Etarosi was one of the most difficult: to reinstate the former system that worked for so long, or to struggle with democracy?

It was indeed clear that the dictatorship in which Ëtaros led had been effective, efficient, and very stable. For a people so used to such a system, the troubles of democracy seemed annoying and stressful. The Etarosi people enjoyed the freedom to choose who they wished to be their leader, but as many joked, "They go in for us and come out with blackened hearts and corrupted souls." The question would not be answered with Oröphin Telemnar, however. He refused to comment on any future plans, and simply said that he intended to maintain the status quo and take a course of action that proved beneficial to Etaros domestically and internationally.

In both arenas, the formerly great nation was faultering. The economy was hit not once, not twice, but three times. First, the ongoing conflict in Etarosi Haven was proving to be a drain on investment. Then, with the retreat of Etarosi forces and a victory for the LRA, stock prices plummeted as years of investment proved worthless and void under a new, radical government in the former colony. The last blow was struck with the terrorist attacks that toppled the Kasparov administration, pumping fear into the economy as people stopped spending and began to save more than ever. The result was a crippling recession that forced many out of jobs and some out of homes. The situation was continuing to deteriorate and Oröphin planned to seek external help.

Internationally, the reputation of Etaros was undoubtedly hurt. Its loss in Etarosi Haven, coupled with its internal pattern of rebellion that was only stopped under the rule of Ëtaros, simply gave the impression of a weak, blundering state that could barely manage its own affairs. Oröphin hoped to prove this image wrong once and for all.

He promptly sent out a message through his Foreign Affairs Consulacör, Xirnes Novalis.

In the spirit of friendship,

I send this message with hope and sadness. It is my duty and despair to officially inform our friends and allies, as well as the international community, that Etaros has hit hard times once again. Though we were resilient and strong under the leadership of a dictator, democracy proved to be a struggle for which we were not prepared as a nation.

Due to policy failures of Cyrus Kasparov, Etaros faced a crippling defeat in its former colony of Etarosi Haven. Though the Lietuv government would like to bash our nation and act as if we had every intention to repress and hurt their people, they forget that militants drove the Erasati Republic to act with military force. Had the militants not acted and the Lietuv people simply waited, they would have their own government backed by Etarosi forces and the Erasat would not be in such a dire situation. I believe that it is no mistake that our Kasparov and their Kasparov are cousins, and that failure is going to prove in this case to be a genetic affair.

As a further consequence of terrorist attacks in our nation, our already suffering economy was struck a further blow. The Etarosi machine of yesterday has crumbled. It is still effective to an extent, but we implore that our allies and friends once again aid us in a time of trouble. This time will prove to be the last time that the might of Etaros shall ever go questioned and brought to its knees again.

We reject all those demands made by the so-called government of Lietuveska, and we will not grant their wishes under any circumstances. We would encourage any nation that considers itself an ally of Etaros to not engage in any sort of positive dialogue with the rogue state. If such an encounter occurs, we will certainly take offense to it and look elsewhere for closer friends with our interests in mind during such sensitive times.

With gratitude, thanks, and somber humility,

Xirnes Novalis
Foreign Affairs Consulacör
Erasati Republic of Etaros

OOC: Lietuv response to other messages upcoming.
Tiburon Jolted
22-01-2007, 01:47
[Sent Via D-Net]
[To: {VERITAS Readiness Forum}]
[From: {Executive Office of the United Solaris Federation}]
[Subject: Tiburonese Position on the Current Situation in Etarosi Haven/Lietuveska]
[Classification: Declassified]

Given recent events in Etarosi territory, including the Lietuveska area, the United Solaris Federation feels that it is prudent to restate it's current position on the international situation regarding Lietuveska.

The United Solaris Federation is a member of VERITAS. This is indisputable. It's a signatory of all three treaties, which means that among its responsibilities as a member state is the common defense and security clause. As such, we are obligated to help in the defense and protection of the state of Etaros. Tiburon takes her alliance duties extremely seriously, and we pledge to help the nation of Etaros in her time of need.

The United Solaris Federation also favors progressivism. This was- and remains- the intent of the Alliance of Progressive Nations. Our continuing commitment to the preservation and promotion of progressive ideals is unwavering, and we express our support for democratic movements throughout the star systems and across the heavens, in recognition of democratic progressivism being the best path towards elevation of sentient rights and the preservation of the sentient communities.

The United Solaris Federation, finally, values diplomacy as a necessary tool of international relations. Diplomatic channels are necessary to successfully implementing national and allied foreign policy objectives. Diplomacy may only be fostered through continuing relations, and therefore it is prudent to grasp

In light of the preceding comments, the United Solaris Federation urges moderation and restraint when dealing with the current situation in Lietuveska. As an ally, we naturally support fully the nation of Etaros in maintaining her defense and integrity- to do otherwise would be unthinkable. At the same time, the negotiating body of the Lietuveska independence movement has indicated that it is willing to enter formal diplomatic relations with the United Solaris Federation of Tiburon. With this in mind, the United Solaris Federation advises that the governments of Tiburon and Etaros work together through this diplomatic channel to peaceably settle the ongoing crisis in Lietuveska. To honor our alliance ties, however, we will not engage in diplomatic ties with the Lietuveska independence movement until an agreement has been reached with the government of Etaros.

-President Anthony Peter Kennedy, on behalf of the United Solaris Federation of Tiburon

Note: The above message has been sent to the VERITAS Readiness Forum, and has sent for publication in most newspapers-of-record throughout the world.
Austar Union
22-01-2007, 04:43
-<Transmission Type: Standard Diplomatic Communique>--
--<Sender: Michael Thatcherson, the Department of Foriegn Affairs and Trade>-
--<Destination: VERITAS Readiness Forum>-
-<Subject: Etarosi Situation>--

We find the situation rather strange, to be honest. Whilst the Lietuv Republic are in no doubt a democratic state, we would also like to note it's most recent terrorist activity against the civilian population of Etaros, not to mention false claims of oppression to the international community. On this basis, we would like to forewarn the Tiburonese delegation that Lietuveska is not to be treated as any regular democratic state - we are led to believe that it's government is an official branch of the Lietuv Revolutionary Army, an unacceptable organization in itself, which carried out countless acts of terrorism and treason against the same government that had signed themselves into VERITAS in the first place. Whether this was in a struggle for democracy, independence, or an ample supply of oranges to be delivered to the Lietuv Republic, we find irrelevant. The end does not justify the means.

Furthermore, we are unsure if the government of Oröphin Telemnar nós Fingolfin can be entirely trusted either, given the nature of the execution of Cyrus Kasparov. It appears, although I will not accuse, that he was mostly pursued by the Fingolfin Administration for his political affiliation, making the rise of this new government nothing less than a coup placed at a very fortunate time. Without further comment from allied leaders, and further intelligence over the matter, we find it near impossible to discern whether we can consider Oröphin Telemnar nós Fingolfin to be the legitimate governor in Etaros. Former leader Ëtaros Eledhwen in the meantime, continues to bide his time in Maximum Security Prison, on charges of election fraud.

This only further confuses the situation. It appears then to present the following questions. Which is the lesser of three evils? Which of these should be considered the legitimate government of Etaros? Should VERITAS consider toppling the new regime of Etaros, and installing an alliance-preferred government? And finally, who should be chosen?

Since the matter of Etaros and by extension, the terrorist nature of the Lietuv Republic appears to most probably become prominent for all of us, we would like to suggest to VERITAS that we officially convene to discuss this matter, barring any delegation from Etaros until such time that the administration of Oröphin Telemnar nós Fingolfin can be validated, or invalidated from which we would then discuss to form a VERITAS sponsored mandate.

Signed,

Michael Thatcherson
The Department of Foriegn Affairs and Trade
The Ctan
22-01-2007, 10:29
VERITAS Readiness Forum

Well, I can’t say this news actually delights me. Look elsewhere for closer friends indeed. I’m afraid, much as this Oröphin may want us to spit in Lietuv faces, it’s not exactly convenient or appropriate to do so now, when it seems we’re making a degree of headway with them. Yes, I’m aware that he can probably read this. The legitimacy of the Etarosi government is as usual, difficult to determine. While it appears to have a popular mandate, every government in Etaros has claimed this, and it must be remembered that the current incarnation appears to be something of a revolutionary government.

Both the Etarosi and Lietuvskan governments appear to be legitimately subject to charges of terrorism, however, in recognition of the difficulty of the situation, I’d recommend that this distasteful fact of past conduct be ignored and that the focus of our efforts should be on coercing both states to behave in a mature, non-balkanized manner.

As for democracy, it might be nice to give it (another) shot, but I’m not optimistic about the ability of any governmental system to endure long in Etaros. They’ve grown accustomed to revolutions. There seems to be little evidence whether or not the Oröphin government wishes to return to democratic principles, or remain in power as a dictatorship, and we must be careful to assess the specifics of the situation before attempting to promote any further democracy in what is already an unstable situation

The existing setup is a cause for concern, the aggressive manner in which Oröphin has disbarred interaction with Lietuveska is possibly a cause for severe examination of the status of this Etarosi government.

Needless to say, we are quite content to provide the usual facilities for any quorum assembled to discuss an official policy with regard to the Etaros-Lietuv matter.

Sen. Aiyana Tirecean
Veritas Rep, C’tan.
Lietuveska
22-01-2007, 22:10
The situation in the past few days had turned from rather wired to a competely insane international situation. Though foreign response to the Kasparov Strategy was expected to be unfavorable and unpleasant, it was not expected to have been as hostile. Nor did the Lietuv officials that planned the strategy take into account that counter-demands may be made by foreign states.

The result was a skeptical populace and a wild intra-government war of sorts. One department head blamed his or her subordinate, the subordinate then blamed someone from another department, and the game became so complicated that nobody really even cared by the end of it. There was one simple request from aides, staffers, and the people alike: Fix it.

The Kasparov Strategy indeed turned out to be ridiculously hard-lined, not the original intention of Alexi or his advisors. In order to fix the situation, a press conference was to be held to explain the actions of his government, accusations from foreign governments, and a rebuttal to Etarosi hostility. In fact, the Etarosi response was most unexpected. Government employees and high-ranking officials in Lietuveska had been placed under the impression that the former power was too weak to deal with external issues. Apparently not, as they quickly learned.

Avid and eager reporters talked away as cameras rolled and photographers prepared to blind the Premier in a sea of blinding white and purple. Alexi marched to the podium with a sort of dignity that only a Kasparov could muster in the face of opposition. He nodded to the reporters, photographers, and cameras.

"Thank you all for coming today, and I thank my fellow Lietuvs watching at home for viewing this important message. Foreign viewers, too, are welcomed.

"A few days ago my adminstration released the Kasparov Strategy, a plan for the future of our nation. Much of it dealt with domestic affairs and made a successful attempt to outline a plan of financial and economic reform within Lietuveska. However, the most controversial part of the document was widely released across the world and galaxy, to be viewed by other nations far and wide.

"I admit now that the Kasparov Strategy was decidedly too hard-lined for the international arena, and the content of it is solely my responsibility. Perhaps in a home of bickering family members such demands would be more appropriate. However, I am fully aware that the world is not a home of family members. This is a fact. We are all different, and as such we have different ways of responding to different crises and events.

"Midlonia has shown me that our people committed many wrongs in the name of righteousness. I understand their obligations were acted upon in order to ensure that the Greater Kingdom did not become involved in another nation's affairs. Although I respectfully disagree on the manner they took action, I hereby withdraw all demands made upon the Greater Kingdom, and request that their demands are also withdrawn. I feel that the matter may be discussed in a more open and fair forum through diplomatic relations.

"Menelmacar complied with Lietuv requests at its own bidding. I must stress that I do not, in any way, feel a sort of victory over the Noldorin Empire. Sirithil is certainly a most fair and benevolent leader, and her government has agreed to aid in Lietuv infrastructure repair, as well as grant vast amounts of territories to our nation. I believe that all Lietuv may agree when I say that this act is most caring and considerate, and I thank the Menelmacari for their help.

"Knootoss has provided me with plentiful advice, and I have heeded it with caution and gratefulness. I must assure the Lietuv people and the government of Knootoss that I am committed to fair and open dialogue, and I seek to improve diplomatic relations with the Knootian Federation as soon as past issues are discussed. While I am on the matter of Knootoss, I must respond to an unidentified Knootian official that hinted the Allaneans may be a better alternative to provide peace and stability to Haven." Alexi raised an eyebrow at the completion of this sentence and laughter was heard in the room. "I would encourage that particular official to do light research and discover the true sources of war and hate in this world."

"Hate must become a thing of yesterday. Our former occupiers in Etaros have apparently overthrown the government that continued its rule in this land. The murder of my cousin was met with sorrow, I must admit, but I am further sorrowed that the Etarosi responded so quickly. Had I understood the ability of the Etarosi government to make an appearance on the foreign stage, I would have most certainly held this speech earlier.

"To the Etarosi, I must apologize for the brazen content of the Kasparov Strategy. Although the Lietuv people remain very, very angry at the prolonged occupation that our nation endured, we are also willing to forgive. I hereby renounce and withdraw all demands made by my government to the Erasati Republic. As such, I request that the Foreign Affairs Consulacöris in Etaros retract its statements made against our people in the spirit of cordiality. I am interested in moving forward, though I must admit doubts in the current administration that was so quick to execute a number of people. This leads me to believe that Etaros is headed on a path to despotism, in which people are murdered for their political affiliation.

"I welcome, with open arms, all dialogue. I encourage VERITAS to fully investigate the situation in the Erasati Republic and determine whether the administration of Oröphin Telemnar nós Fingolfin is valid and supported by popular mandate. If it is not deemed so, then the Third Republic shall take the conclusion of VERITAS as binding and will wait until the time is right for Lietuv-Etarosi relations to resume on a solely positive footing.

"I thank you all, I cannot take questions."
Tarasovka
23-01-2007, 23:34
Excerpt from the Vigvar Daily

Grand Duchy recognizes Lietuveska, some MPs want more

[…] Whilst the Grand Ducal Government is the competent authority to recognize and establish relations with sovereign ties, the precedent set by the Jaworski-Vennikov Amendment gives the Parliament the right to void any such recognition and ties. The Amendment, enacted against Allanea, refused the United States the status of “subject of law”, thus making the nation and all its citizens formally non-existent, cutting all diplomatic, political, economic, social and any other ties what so ever.

The Amendment has now been repealed, but nobody really expects such a stance against Lietuveska. In fact, the contrary is true as the Liberal Socialist Party is pondering on a legislation that would tighten ties between the Grand Duchy and the Republic. Some even play with the idea of offering sovereignty guarantees to the Third Republic, a move which is seen badly by the Conservative Party. The Grand Duke is also rumoured to be “not amused” by LSP’s over-enthusiasm on the matter and an unnamed Winter Palace source has said that “even if the law passes Parliament and survives Referendum, a single word from the Grand Duke will stop it in the tracks…”

The word is: “Veto.” Article 147 Paragraph 3 of the Constitution grants the Taraskovyan leader the exclusive right to void any legislation, judicial or administrative decision anywhere in Taraskovya, even void referenda results (unless results adopted by three-quarters of the People and Fiefdoms). The tool has never been used before, and it is not expected to be used anytime soon as Taraskovya aims for a "cordial, but constructive and balanced" relationship with the new Republic.

[...]

Foreign Minister Ithun Khat has commented on the recognition of Lietuveska during a brief talk with journalists. “Whilst we see Lietuveska as a democratic, sovereign State, we had some reservations about its first steps on the international arena. Threats against Knootoss, Menelmacar and Midlonia cannot be seen with a kind eye from the Grand Duchy and we are most satisfied that the Lietuv government has decided to reconsider its stance on these issues and adopt a more pragmatic and balanced approach to solving the issues at hand.”

[…]
Ilek-Vaad
24-01-2007, 03:47
The Free Republic had carefully monitored the situation and an appropriate press release was made at what was considered the appropriate time.

From: The Office of The First Republican
For: Public News Consumption

The Free Republic always applauds nations that take the logical step that political evolution demands and becomes a democracy. The Power of the People must always be respected. The Free Republic has also always maintained that the Etarosi gift of Havenic Lietuv territory to the Eternal Noldorin Empire was at worst an illegal transaction and at best and imperialistic action of an unresponsive dictatorship. However that matter has been dispensed with to the satisfaction of The Republican Council and The Council takes no stance on the current disposition of these lands.

The Free Republic offers their support to the sovereign Lietuv Peoples and their right to self determination and their right to form their own sovereign democracy within their lands. The Free Republic does ,as always, deplores terrorism, no matter how worthy the cause.

Layne Al Azarad,
Assistant to the First Republican,
Ilek-Vaad

A non-committal statement at best.
Austar Union
24-01-2007, 04:41
"So exactly what's going on here?" pondered the Secretary-General. "We have a case of an independent Lietuv Republic forming out of Etaros, after committing acts of terrorism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466954) against their domestic governments, and treason against the Erasati. To be fair, their cause to be recognized as a legitimate government is best. I don't care what the situation is for Etaros right now, they are an ally."

Michael nodded subjectively, "Not to mention the fact that there have been three acts of terrorism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12234231&postcount=16) since they claimed independence, and a policy of belittling toward the governments of Menelmacar, Midlonia, Knootoss, and Etaros specifically. They have made false claims to Etarosi oppression (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12218045&postcount=6) against them, when, even non-government history documents a much more peaceful society."

There was a pause between both gentlemen.

"Oh," Michael noted. "Kasparov has released a more recent public word."

Carmine arched a brow, "Yes?"

Nodding, he was quickly recalled it. "He virtually retracted all of his threatening comments toward the first three nations. But, as for his policy for Etaros..." He let his voice trail into the distance. "Pretty much impossible to discern."

"Let's face it. We have a state where its leader doesn't seem to know what the hell he's doing," chuckled Carmine. "We have already been able to link them to the three attacks against Etaros, and that couldn't even be explained as 'freedom fighting'. To be fair, this Kasparov character seems to be nothing more than an opportunist. The Lietuv's have been fighting for democracy for some time now, and I suppose given the less fortunate circumstances of the Etarosi government, took the chance when he could."

"Unfortunately, he made the mistake of linking the emerging of his government with the domestic terrorism that Etaros had endured some time ago, and then led three medium scale attacks after they were declared independent. Not to mention laying false claims against the former Etarosi governments to somehow justify their cause, and then using this claim as an attempt to force the international community to join their cause against their former governing forces. Which I will note, they have since retracted."

He shrugged, "If I knew nothing better, I would declare Lietuveska a rogue state and be done with it, but, given that some states (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12236990&postcount=17) seem to look beyond a state's real problems and more so at the existing democratic system." He snorted. "Apparently having a democracy justifies almost anything these days."

"Action then, Secretary?"

"Send Kasparov a message," Carmine directed. "Invite him to send either himself, or a representative to discuss some 'important matters regarding the formation of the Lietuv Republic, along with their plans for the future and policies toward Etaros and all of our other allies in VERITAS."

-<Transmission Type: Standard Diplomatic Communique>--
--<Sender: Michael Thatcherson, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade>-
--<Destination: Alexi Kasparov, Lietuveska>-
-<Subject: Meeting>--

Noting the existence of a growing international question that seems to hang over the legitimacy of both a Lietuv Republic and an Erasati Republic of Etaros, we would like to officially extend an invitation to you to come visit us in Anatoba City, where we hopefully might be able to clear up some of the surrounding mist that can only further confuse the matter. In doing this I hope to find a mutually beneficial solution, that will also ease the birth of positive relations between the Austarian and Lietuv governments, and secure a future peace within your region of Haven.

I look forward to your response.

Signed,

Michael Thatcherson
The Department of Foriegn Affairs and Trade
-<End Transmission>--
Orbitas Enosti
24-01-2007, 08:14
Orbitas Enosti had returned to a state of relative normalcy after weeks of protests, strikes, and military patrols. The curfew had finally been lifted after the violence subsided, though now the streets were quieter than usual. The newly constructed city was a technological marvel, an innovation in architecture, and an example in space usage. It was a city of the future, equipped with an airport, spaceport, a gravship station, maglev stations, and a state-of-the-art public transportation system. Inside the city itself, cars were very rare. In the suburbs, of course, the ten-lane interstates saw heavy usage. It was not a utopia by any means, but it was very clean and very well-kept. Etarosi took pride in their post-modern marvel of sorts, and made an attempt to brag about it to visiting foreigners.

Not that foreigners were visiting after the widely controversial executions that took place. Polls showed that there was support for the trials, but many still believed them to be unfair and too hasty. Cyrus Kasparov and other key political and military officials were sentenced to death and hanged in a private setting. Had it not been for the speedy trials, the nation probably would have devolved into yet another civil war by this time.

Or so Oröphin Telemnar believed. He was partly correct -- the former Defense Consulacör did fill a power void very quickly. The elf's rapid seizure of power not only ensured that the Etarosi government would not totally collapse, but that the economy could pick up speed at a more rapid pace. His ascension was not met with cheers, however, as probably two-thirds of Etarosi disapproved of how he took the top leadership position of the country. Bypassing strict constitutional rules, Oröphin broke Etarosi law. To some, that was unacceptable and they demanded an immediate solution.

For Oröphin, as he stared out of the window of the top floor in the National Congress Office Complex, an immediate solution was not easily achieved. The elf's cold, gray eyes stared into the sunset as he turned back around to look at his desk. There lay several documents, pens, and other office necessities. A new package had arrived earlier in the day, and he had waited until now to open it. It was the official results of a referendum held days earlier, results that had not even been released to the press. With reluctant fingers, he opened the package.

The numbers he found were not shocking, but did little to help his pessimism. Although he took the title of Eratis as an interim leader, he had hoped that the people would simply go along with his new leadership. It was not to be so. The numbers were clear. Almost three quarters of Etarosi wanted a new election to be held so they could choose their leader. However, two-thirds of the populace did not want to return to democracy.

And so over the next few hours, he produced a plan with advisors, Cabinet members, and experts. It was almost flawless. The next day, he would hold a press conference after the referendum numbers were released. The night carried on, and the moon shone in full strength.

---

Reporters waited eagerly for the Eratis to make his way to the podium. Many chatted with one another, though they kept their voices low to avoid attracting attention from the ERASE guards that had been strategically placed throughout the room. The secret service agents were military-trained and kept their eyes and ears open for any anomalies that were potential threats to the Eratis. Security, obviously, was dramatically heightened since the collapse of the Kasparov administration.

Oröphin walked into the room and headed straight for the podium, dressed in a professional suit of deep navy blue. His eyes were somber, and no smile was present on his face.

"Greetings, friends, allies, and my fellow citizens of the Erasati Republic. Today, I come with a message of hope for our nation and future. Due to the rising international concern over the legitimacy and popular mandate of this iterim government that I now head, I would like to announce a plan of action to help alleviate these concerns and fulfill the wishes of the Etarosi people. A recent referendum was quite clear -- the people want a change that they can take responsibility for. However, it is also clear that Etarosi fear the instability that democracy has brought to our nation.

"I admit that this democracy was not always golden, but it did have its shining moments. Unfortunately, the sudden end to Cyrus Kasparov's leadership presented doubts about the sustainability of government under democratic influences. The rules were clear, but they were not suitable for our needs. I admit that the constitutional rules in place were not abided by, and my ascension to power was technically illegal. But it was necessary, necessary for the Etarosi nation to remain single and united. The chain of command established by our constitution was flawed, and there is no way that the Speaker of the National Congress could have appropriately handled the crisis.

"As such, I understand that the people of Etaros are critical of my actions. It is why I am here speaking to you. We must seek a better option, and that better option is present. In sixty days, a national election for the Erasito, or Erasita, will be held. It will be the last democratic election for the leadership position of our great nation. This plan is brought forth out of respect for the results of a nationwide referendum in which a vast majority of eligible voters participated. The candidates will all be write-in, and they must submit their intentions to run within two weeks. I will not be participating as a candidate in these elections.

"Our allies in VERITAS have expressed concern that the current government is not legit and has no popular mandate to govern. They are correct on the latter, though the former is not true. Etaros needs strong leadership in times of trouble, leadership that I am fully willing to provide. However, I will concede my office once the elections are complete. Until that time, I ask that VERITAS take no action on the matter of Etaros. Once the people have voted, I would encourage intense discussion with the new Erasito or Erasita.

"Etaros has always, and will always, be a nation of strength and vitality. Though we have suffered many unstable and hard times, there has always been a way to succeed. Tomorrow, and the coming weeks and months and years will prove to be no different. In the spirit of unity and brotherhood, I welcome my fellow citizens to participate in the election that shall prove to be our greatest. May you all be blessed."

He then nodded, smiled, and turned away. The nation was slightly shocked, but very excited. This was their single chance to make a big change. It was time for the wheels to begin rolling, time for a return to efficiency and competence in government.
Allanea
24-01-2007, 14:56
Official Reply from the United States of Allanea

We are much offended by the fact that we are depicted by the Etarosi leadership one of the 'sources of war and hate in the world'. And yet… how much truth is there in this statement? Allanea is now allied directly with the majority of nations in Haven, it's foreign policy dedicated to the promotion of individual and economic freedom through the Sovereign League and other organization. We have hundreds of trade partners. Our businessmen have invested in the Knootian, the Taraskovyan, why, even the Excalbian economy. Even in Lietuveska, you have the Pink Bunny City – and it is Allaneans that own 10% of the PBC stock. And yet we are the purveyors of war and instability!

But we are ready to put that behind us. We would like to open diplomatic relations with the government of Lietuveska – providing it's stable enough not to shoot at us, of course.
Austar Union
24-01-2007, 15:46
Ugh, Allaneans. Keep your bloody traps shut for once.
~ The Office of Officially Unofficial Statements