Who here on NS has the strongest military?
Nova Aquaria
12-12-2006, 17:22
And don't just suggest yourself. Pick a nation that ACTUALLY is into RPing. I say, perhaps Shazbotdom.
Kahanistan
12-12-2006, 20:35
Pfft. AMF has far superior military forces; Freekish soldiers are totally wiped of emotions (Sentinels, Sentinel Stalkers), or never had them to start with (Death Dealers). They won't lose morale where a "normal" soldier would. Plus, they train 18 hours a day.
Also, AMF wins literally EVERY war it gets into, or at least doesn't lose. I think it's a big candidate for a NS world power, myself.
My vote goes to Kraven with Questers second (big navy).
Are we speaking strictly in terms of a particular technology level?
The Transylvania
12-12-2006, 22:19
Pfft. AMF has far superior military forces; Freekish soldiers are totally wiped of emotions (Sentinels, Sentinel Stalkers), or never had them to start with (Death Dealers). They won't lose morale where a "normal" soldier would. Plus, they train 18 hours a day.
Also, AMF wins literally EVERY war it gets into, or at least doesn't lose. I think it's a big candidate for a NS world power, myself.
I'll second that. I’m happy I’m on his side.
Assuming you mean MT/PMT technology, I would say AMF. He has, literally, never lost a war and has been responsible for the total destruction of many nations. Groznyj, I have to refute your statement of Kraven - AMF beat him. Very badly. And is now doing so again.
oh really, cool, I've never witnessed an AMF war (yeah I know...) if you could link to what he's doing now I'd appreciate it.
Lawl, wuts going on in this thread?!
I will also vote Automagfreek because he's the greatest roleplayer and has nevar lost against anyones. Alsos with his genetically engineered super soldiers (MT/PMT LOL) and many allies he is unstoppable.
Little offence meant to AMF (as I'm sure it would take more then this to really piss him off) but I can't stand these kinds threads, let alone the thinking behind them. It's more of a popularity contest then anything else and frankly in a world of cooperative story telling and communities within communities it's best to assume everyone has their strengths and weeknesses and call it a day.
Anyways, the last thing we need is more people thinking X nation is the best and having a chip on their shoulder to beat them for fame.
The strongest militay belongs to the one that you accept in an rp.
Murgerspher
12-12-2006, 23:57
Me.Because I have one of these.
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Murgerspher
12-12-2006, 23:58
Me.Because I have one of these.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.youthink.com/quiz_images/quiz259outcome4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24913&h=400&w=500&sz=31&hl=en&start=17&tbnid=W9y7vis--iYyeM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgiant%2Bkitten%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
I say, perhaps Shazbotdom.
lolz @ that and Kraven.
The Macabees
13-12-2006, 00:03
Hataria ... by far.
Mer des Ennuis
13-12-2006, 00:07
Hataria ... by far.
Oh, by far. I like, once, dropped, like, 5,000 bunker busting demolition bombs with JDAM kits on one of his ships and it like, didn't sink, nor lose a single sailor.
Other than that, I vote Leocardia. Those Riceball SDs are toughorz.
The Lords of Gallifrey
13-12-2006, 00:13
I do!
Southeastasia
13-12-2006, 08:01
By military, I assume that the thread creator means it in an overall (balanced) sense, no?
In that case, I would have to say that if you mean the strongest overall military force on NS, I would have to say that there is no military on NS that is strong and overall, cos' virtually every NS player has some bias to one another part of their military, and a differing doctrine.
For infantry forces, I would definitely have to concur with Iuthia - AMF is not only a good role-player, but his Sentinels are arguably the best of the best on NationStates. I'd say that only there are only two people on NS are able to have even the best and most realistic chance of beating them: Sniper Country and Pantera, the two being AMF's inspirations for his Sentinels, SC for his professionalism and Pantera for his soldiers' iron determination. Whether or not it is a good thing or a bad thing that those three guys are allies, I can't say, but I do know that only SC and Pantera are the only ones that can truly rival him when it comes to infantry forces.
For armor, I would have to say it would be the Second Empire of the Golden Throne of The Macabees, as Mac is a most impressive designer and role-player, plus, he has a formidable military-industrial complex and mechanized divisions, if not commanders! GMC Military Arms would be my number one if it were not for the fact that he role-plays his nation as one of a more distant time frame than Mac's.
Aircraft.....toughie. The Tyrandisian Imperial Air Force is impressive, but then again so is the Royal Isselmere-Nielander Aerospace Force and the Omzian Air Force. But if push came to shove, then I would have to nominate Omz222 for his sheer knowledge in aviation and role-play, with Clan Smoke Jaguar coming in tied for similar reasons (well, CSJ is balanced, but if you look close enough, you can notice that his air force has a slight upper hand compared to his other branches).
The navy.....tough. Several good ones. Sarzonia, Oceania (AKA Azazia thanks to game mechanics), Hamptonshire, Pacitalia, and Isselmere-Nieland are most impressive, to name a few amongst several. But if I had to pick the strongest (blue water) navy on NS, it would be the Imperial Scandavian Navy, the Freethinker Royal Navy would be first if it were not for Free's inactivity, but hey, SS uses FDI ships, so that's a good thing! For mud-water navies, I ain't really so sure, as I haven't seen littoral operations being role-played that much into depth from what I've seen.
There, that's my rant.
Arizona Nova
13-12-2006, 08:06
NOBODY does. The question is itself absurd and can only lead to grief. It also depends on the era one is RPing in - Fantasy, FT, MT, PMT, which Earth, the list goes on. You might as well ask "How big is God?"
Der Angst
13-12-2006, 11:51
NOBODY does. The question is itself absurd and can only lead to grief. It also depends on the era one is RPing in - Fantasy, FT, MT, PMT, which Earth, the list goes on. You might as well ask "How big is God?"Twenty centimetres.
For infantry forces, I would definitely have to concur with Iuthia - AMF is not only a good role-player, but his Sentinels are arguably the best of the best on NationStates. I'd say that only there are only two people on NS are able to have even the best and most realistic chance of beating them: Sniper Country and Pantera, the two being AMF's inspirations for his Sentinels, SC for his professionalism and Pantera for his soldiers' iron determination. Whether or not it is a good thing or a bad thing that those three guys are allies, I can't say, but I do know that only SC and Pantera are the only ones that can truly rival him when it comes to infantry forces.
Maybe I should have been more sarcastic, added more spelling mistakes and maybe more lollerskating for good measure as I didn't expect anyone to take it too seriously.
Automagfreek's infantry when he isn't toning them down are definately not post modern technology, they are future technology... so it's not surprising they are 'better' then more balanced forces that more accurately represent the technology level they are playing at.
Don't get me wrong, I acknowledge that in the right circles he's concidered to be something of a power, but in reality his nation is comparable to quite a number of others that don't quite have the same rienforced image.
Leocardia
17-12-2006, 02:12
Oh, by far. I like, once, dropped, like, 5,000 bunker busting demolition bombs with JDAM kits on one of his ships and it like, didn't sink, nor lose a single sailor.
Other than that, I vote Leocardia. Those Riceball SDs are toughorz.
:)
Krasnamoya
17-12-2006, 04:41
Oh, by far. I like, once, dropped, like, 5,000 bunker busting demolition bombs with JDAM kits on one of his ships and it like, didn't sink, nor lose a single sailor.
Other than that, I vote Leocardia. Those Riceball SDs are toughorz.
DID YOU HEAR ABOUT HIS NEW LINE OF BATTLE DROIDS? They're made of glass and sand, the two main resources of his country!
Goobergunchia
17-12-2006, 12:55
Marathon.
Leocardia
19-12-2006, 01:29
DID YOU HEAR ABOUT HIS NEW LINE OF BATTLE DROIDS? They're made of glass and sand, the two main resources of his country!
Did you just get that from nowhere?
No. My two main resources is not sand and glass.
Enough said about AMF's infantry. Those Sentinels are 1337, but thats only because they are FT.
Now lets start talking about MT and get going with my naval strength.:D
Automagfreek
19-12-2006, 02:13
Enough said about AMF's infantry. Those Sentinels are 1337, but thats only because they are FT.
I disagree. They've always been PMT, and over the past year and a half I've made them more MT/PMT like.
AMF, I gotta read one of your wars to see what the hell all this talk is about bud :cool:
Dread Lady Nathicana
19-12-2006, 05:43
And here is where we start running into another problem with this 'who has the biggest mil-wang in the game' thing: The Post Modern Tech argument.
Look, folks. People can't even agree on 'how far into the future PMT is without being FT' most of the time. Modern means what it says - $thing or the technology for $thing exists in the here and now, or at least is currently in the works and -very- nearly wrapped up. Post-Modern means literally 'after modern'. And where lays the time period after here and now? As in after present day? That's right - the FUTURE. As in has not happened yet. Unless you're going to get into Postmodernism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism) and such which is another matter entirely, and not terribly concerned with which of your widgets is too advanced to be considered MT/PMT for RP. Oi. *grins*
PMT is and always has been an excuse for having what has proven historically to be outrageous things interact with Modern rp whilst masquerading as something it isn't, all in the name of pwnage. And for some reason, far too many people have been pulled in by this ruse, hook line and sinker.
No, not going to hang around and debate this particular opinion - just something I've noticed over the past nearly 4 years now in watching and reading and listening to folks defending or condemning it. It gets just as silly seeing how 'Future Tech' (criminy, just about every sort of tech come to think of it) is labled and divided up so that people have a 'better chance' at owning someone else.
In any case the answer to the main query here is 'Depends on who you ask'. As has been pointed out previously, not everyone plays with everyone else, not everyone accepts everyone else even if they have common interactive partners, not everyone has the same tech level, suspension of disbelief tolerances, ability to play well with others, or intents - even the two forums have ample distance between them, with preferences and biases on both sides.
When you have people representing pretty much every Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Horror/what-have-you universe out there, there's going to be differing opinions on what works, what doesn't, and who should be accepted as 'better'. Everyone thinks their brand/favorite bit is 'the best' when you get down to it, or they wouldn't be borrowing from it, or modeling similarly to it, etc.
The difference lays not so much in who actually is 'the best' so much as 'how many people in your rp circle accepts it as such'. It's all perception. And perception, they say, is reality - or at least it defines what passes for reality in forum rp.
The Most Glorious Hack
19-12-2006, 06:08
PMT is and always has been an excuse for having what has proven historically to be outrageous things interact with Modern rp whilst masquerading as something it isn't, all in the name of pwnage.Or for those of us who want the shiny, but are too damn lazy to build spacedyships.