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Dance2Spaam Obligatory Bid Thread

Spaam
21-11-2006, 07:21
Football World Cup XXXII
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"Vote Dance2Spaam; If they screw up, you get to scream at Spaam!"

Welcome to Dance2Spaam, the non-revolutionary World Cup! This is just a good ol' cup with good ol' matchess and good ol' bonuses for nations' media (OOC: RP). With just a few quirks put in, to give it a spicy non-AO flavour, we're sure you'll enjoy coming to the friendly nations of D2R and Spaam to cheer on your favourite football team!

Assuming around 98 nations signup, there will be 12 groups of 8 teams each. Top two of each group qualify, with the third-place teams participating in playoffs for that much sought-after World Cup berth.

We also encourage friendlies between nations, so there will be a separate friendly signup thread for any nations wanting to engage in friendlies. Spaam and D2R will also be looking for teams to play every matchday, so we will accept all challenges.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please, post them in this thread!


Spaam Experience: 4xCup of Harmonies, 1xBaptism of Fires, numerous other competitions, 3.5 years of RPing the WC
D2R Experience: 1xCup of Harmonies, 2.5 years of RPing the WC

OOC info

For the first time in a World Cup, you can have any style you want. You want a -1? You got it. You want a +10? You got it. You want a karelan -100000? You got it. However the effect of the style is just the same as its always been, so don't expect to go through qualifying with 0-0 all draws or 15-12 wins.

We'll be using SOCS (http://spaam.info/socs), Spaam's online scorination system, as was used during CoH XXII. However, the difference is in the RP bonus, having learnt from the CoH.

The RP for each matchday for each nation as a whole will be given a score out of 10. A good average RP will score around a 7, a literary masterpiece will give you a 10, and if we think we can pull something better out of a bazalope's arse, you get a 1. Hey, at least you worked out how to press the 'post' button.

We know that not everyone has the time to produce a masterpiece every day, so we're gonna cap the bonus to the equivalent of a 7 or 8 every single day. Post a couple of masterpieces and then have a day off? No worries, you still get (about) the maximum. Don't have as much time as Starblaydia or Az-Cz? No worries, as long as you post a good RP every day, you get the max.

What's more, you get your bonus from day one. Has Krytenia not posted a single thing before the first matchday, but you at the lower end of qualifying have been hitting the max all pre-cup? Then you're gonna be around equal.

Hopefully this will be enough incentive for everyone to RP well, while keeping the spirit of Margaret in the World Cup!
Vilita
21-11-2006, 17:02
Are you going to be going at this alone, or has D2R changed his mind about hosting this world cup?

[14:40] <Starblaydia> still no hosting bids
[14:41] <Starblaydia> except a possible Geis/Milch bid :D
[14:41] * Vil|Surfing and tlc will host again
[14:41] <Vil|Surfing> :P
[14:42] <Bedistan> don't look at me, I have final exams smack dab in the middle of WC32 :P
[14:42] <D2R> don't look at me...well, i know you wouldn't ANYWAY but still :P
Dance 2 Revolution
21-11-2006, 18:43
That was a joking comment...

...and HOW THE HELL did you remember that...I don't :S
Vilita
21-11-2006, 18:52
That was a joking comment...

...and HOW THE HELL did you remember that...I don't :S


Okay, just checking because you didn't show up at all for World Cup 31 despite being entered and having bid to host it :)
Dance 2 Revolution
21-11-2006, 18:59
Yeah, I did post a few times during the cup apologising for my absence.

The only person it has harmed is me and my rank :(

anyway: Confirmation of bid etc.
Az-cz
28-11-2006, 04:53
Posted in both threads:

1. What are your plans for amount of host RP?

2. How will you deal with unexpected scenarios? As a specific example how would you plan on dealing with a team that withdraws during qualification? A mistake like the one that happened in the CoH? Other ideas you have to protect against screw ups?
Errinundera
28-11-2006, 07:24
Spaam,

Will you withdraw your team part way through the cup like you (or was it your puppet?) did in a recent CoH?

I don't mind if you win WC32 as host. Honest.
Qazox
28-11-2006, 07:56
So how much $$ will it take to ensure that i advance to the World Cup??

We're willing to go to $10.00. (if you recognise this line.. you've been watch way too much TV)
Spaam
29-11-2006, 02:46
So how much $$ will it take to ensure that i advance to the World Cup??

We're willing to go to $10.00. (if you recognise this line.. you've been watch way too much TV)
Too much :p
Spaam
29-11-2006, 02:48
Spaam,

Will you withdraw your team part way through the cup like you (or was it your puppet?) did in a recent CoH?

I don't mind if you win WC32 as host. Honest.
It was my puppet, and I did it cos my puppet was not RPing and I had rather people who put the effort into RPing actually win. There's no chance of that happening here. But thanks for the attack. Honest.
Spaam
29-11-2006, 02:56
Posted in both threads:

1. What are your plans for amount of host RP?

2. How will you deal with unexpected scenarios? As a specific example how would you plan on dealing with a team that withdraws during qualification? A mistake like the one that happened in the CoH? Other ideas you have to protect against screw ups?
1. During the qualification, we have nothing better to do than RP... It is our intention to RP the beginning and ends of stages, and hopefully RP a rundown of some of the matchdays. If we feel like it, we might introduce some sort of story into the cup.

2. If a team withdraws, its the same as forfeiting their remaining matches - 3:0 loss and -3 competition points. The way to handle unexpected scenarios is communication and actually being around to listen to people. The problem with the CoH was that the hosts went AWOL and didn't talk to each other (plus one of them not really caring about the whole thing). D2R and I constantly talk to each other, and we are here every day (for me, I'm logged on to IRC 24/7, so I can always catch up on whats happening). And if for any reason one of us is not around, we both have our partner's permission to do whatever necessary to remedy a situation needing immediate attention without having to wait for the other.
Vilita
29-11-2006, 05:33
1. During the qualification, we have nothing better to do than RP... It is our intention to RP the beginning and ends of stages, and hopefully RP a rundown of some of the matchdays. If we feel like it, we might introduce some sort of story into the cup.


Are you speaking for yourself, or does this statement include your co-host who did not post a single RP in the most recent, RP favored world cup?
Spaam
29-11-2006, 09:33
Are you speaking for yourself, or does this statement include your co-host who did not post a single RP in the most recent, RP favored world cup?
Sorry, but there did happen to be a reason why D2R didn't RP this cup. Not everyone can RP fully every cup. What about ASMV and D&S? They're bound to be back and RPing all the time this cup, but we didn't hear a peep from then this time round.
Vilita
29-11-2006, 10:22
Sorry, but there did happen to be a reason why D2R didn't RP this cup. Not everyone can RP fully every cup. What about ASMV and D&S? They're bound to be back and RPing all the time this cup, but we didn't hear a peep from then this time round.

Yes, they didn't have access to the internet at all within something like and hour and a half of their home iirc due to their computer problem as they stated in the WCDT and on the AO Message Center. They will return when they regain access to the internet without having to travel to a public access location way out of the way to do so.

D2R on the other hand was frequently online as was FMJphoenix, but neither contributed to the RP thread. Only one of which is your bidding partner whom You're right, not everyone can RP fully each cup. But, I'm asking whether you, in stating that it is the intention of the hosts to RP, are actually speaking for just yourself, or if D2R, who did not RP at all, not even once, not even a paragraph that takes less time to contribute than this post I am making right now, also plans to contribute as per your indications in your response to the question posed by Az-Cz.

If you are speaking for D2R in your response, then state as such, you don't have to defend his reasons for not RPing last cup. It is D2R's place to defend why he was 100% inactive last cup and whether or not he's going to decide to show up at all for this cup if he is elected to host it. I'm simply asking you, Spaam, whether your response to Az-Cz's question is accurate for both hosts, or just to your knowledge, for yourself.
Spaam
29-11-2006, 10:34
Its true for me, and as far as I know, for D2R as well.

You might notice as well, that even though I was online pretty much 24/7, I failed to RP nearly as much in the second half of qualifying. I just didn't have the time, due to other projects of mine.
Vilita
29-11-2006, 10:42
Its true for me, and as far as I know, for D2R as well.


That's fine, I think it would be fair to wait for D2R's response to Az-Cz's question however, as I don't get the impression from your tone that you are 100% certain that he is on the same page as you, which, you would hope would be the case between two users who have bid for three straight tournaments together. But, how well can an Aussie and a Brit really get along anyway?


You might notice as well, that even though I was online pretty much 24/7, I failed to RP nearly as much in the second half of qualifying. I just didn't have the time, due to other projects of mine.


Do you see this as a problem? Spaam and D2R committed to a bid to host World Cup 31. Yet, you are indicating that circumstances intervened from day one that prevented D2R from participating at all at any point during the qualification of the cup. And circumstances intervened that prevented Spaam from participating during the second half of the cup.

Are you saying that, if D2R and Spaam had hosted WC31, it would have stopped after Matchday 10 until you and D2R finished your other engagements?

If so, do you forsee a similar situation this cup where, the two of you are committing yourself to participating in a tournament that neither of you will end up being able to fully commit to, which by your own admission is exactly what happened during the last World Cup, which both of you bid to host initially?
Spaam
29-11-2006, 10:58
I can't speak for D2R on this one, but I wouldn't have picked up those projects if I was hosting the cup. So I'll be fine at least.
Dance 2 Revolution
30-11-2006, 18:54
Right...


Az-cz: I plan on host-rping continually throughout the cup, as i'd like to make up for the lack of RPs in previous cups. The reason why I wasn't around in WC31 in the RP thread was that a few tedious life (see Dog & Women) problems got in the way, along with the start of college being a bit more hectic than I had forseen. If we'd have won the only thing that would have been effected would be my RP input and hosting duties (BtS) would have been done.

Unforseen circumstances...Normal conditions apply. Any circumstances that arise will be discussed with the President and other valued members of the World Cup society (time permitting)

Any more questions? (Except Vilita* ;))





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