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All bitching that will no doubt spawn from that thread, will be contained here. Now I am off to do homework.

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Tag. It's got off to a good start, ain't it?

OOC: Tag.

*Tap Tap* hello Bryn you still there, because my fleet has been poised to open fire for several days now and I've heard nothing, zip, nadda. I know you've seen the attack because Tanne has posted stuff in response to it, and I've seen you on IRC... so...

Okay as a note my attack was launched at the same time as the Ambush. Taking into account a maximum of 30 Mins Belt travel time and thats where we are at timeline wise when you can get on. Just because I know how confusing the Forums can get when you don't post for a few days and things move forwards.... We are poised to attack eacch other at the same time as the Ambush is happening elsewhere, and the Martian firestorm has yet to fully kick off.

Thank you that is all.

ElectronX, you going to reply to my losses and moves (the edited post you yourself requested) or what?

When you decide to actually post losses and not wank out of taking damage, as I explained to you already.

hrm.
Because a week and a half is more than enough time to respond:
New Haven I want a goddamned response.
I don't want to have to write the fates of your colony moons myself, with, as pointed out by respectable entities, the inherent dubiousness of such a result, I'd much rather have myself a good fight and see what eventuates, but I cannot do that with my opponent not reacting.
I also will not have you delay a response till your fellow stagelefters organise whatever muppetry they're planning. Fluid-timing in relation to the Paragons is in abeyance until you respond.
Either formalise an ignore, react, or accept the destruction of your presence in Martian orbit. It's up to you.

Why not repost your attack seperately on the Mars forums, as after all it makes little sense to throw your attack in to a seperate thread, set in a seperate part of the galaxy when you could do it in mars. Thats why there is no response. I was approached and asked why I hadnt responded to your attack against Bryn Shander, I responded with the truth. I couldnt find your attack because it wasnt on mars or in a seperate thread but jumbled up in to here.

Clarity is key here on this issue, after all the thread itself is confusing enough as it is, as well as the many ooc issues dealing with this thread.

Except it's swiftly approaching 48 Hours now since I did exactly what you suggested there Tann and still no reply from Bryn Shandar. so I'm forced to join the Paragon's here. I'm giving it 24 Hours from the time of this message then I will start writing a sum up post and draw a line under this whole mess, and place this entire situation behind me when it comes to Bryn Shandar. In short in 24 hours from now if I have still had no reply from Bryn, his fleet becomes false Data as far as I as a player am concerned.

So how did we arrive at this point you may wonder? Call it fate, destiny, coincidence, or just bad luck: but here we are now. The Island States and Bryn Shander, you are henceforth(I ignored you both long ago, but I guess I should post this for those who don't go onto IRC) non-existent as it pertains to me and my nation. Never in my life would I have believed that two individuals such as yourselves existed.

If you're not declaring your superiority over anyone and everyone who posts in NS, you're pressuring people to go to war for you, or just causing an OOC shitfest out of what I can only assume is fulfilling some bizarre need of self-gratification. Then there is your inability to listen to reason, your inability to comprehend what politics actually is. And finally, your treatment of other alliance members who have by and large more seniority than you ever did.

Almost every time you two speak its about how awesome you are. About how much everyone else sucks. About how you're both the greatest things to hit NS RP since the forums were put up. It's an OOC headache that only served to destroy what credibility the League had at the time, and when translated into IC, is perhaps the most dangerous thing about you two: the size of your collective egos is such that you pressure those around you towards courses of action that only means their end.

Which basically gets down to "We're awesome, so with us we'll pwn!" Of course this has never actually happened, for various and obvious reasons ICly and OOCly. Yet, you both remain consistent in your adherence to the "WE R AWSUM!" and as eventually taint those around you into agreeing with your viewpoint at least in some way. Thus bringing about the doom of not your enemies, but your allies and their allies.

Then there is the OOC bullshit. I doubt in all the history of NS there had ever existed two people who were responsible for the most pointless and aggravating OOC fiascos known to man. "FUCK YOU WE RRRRROCK!" "YOUR STUPID!" "*INANE STATEMENT PROVING INABILITY TO DEVELOP COGENT THOUGHT*" Of course it only causes arguments to spawn from your shit stirring, but for whatever reason neither of you care, and proceed onwards till everyone thinks of you both as a bunch of jerks(where you then attempt to play the victim, not that anyone ever buys it anymore). The truth is you feed on drama, and as such have probably ruined Auman in the public eye just by association. Oh, and the Ordo too which never started out well because at any one time half our number would drop off the planet.

Of course if either of you were reasonable in any meaningful capacity these situations would never arise; yet they do indeed. A reasonable person in a cooperative freeform environment wouldn't cause so much shit that the majority of NS for all intents and purposes, ignores them. Though that's more OOCly; ICly you're both entire magnitudes more intolerable.

Every defeat you have suffered in the past, everyone you will suffer in the future if you can find someone to RP with, will be due to your inability to work ICly with people. Not that you help yourselves by being such horrible wankers and OOC headaches that people find justification in ignoring you both(though principally nightbane who will break before he bends, unlike newhaven). So we end up being forced down paths that only lead to our demise when we listen to either of you.

So the obvious solution would have been to put Hermes in its place and told it to shut the fucking hell up while we tried to annihilate Sol. But no, Hermes can't have that. Hermes MUST be independent and autonomous, and must be the final decision maker even if listening to others and following their order is in the alliance's best interest. Basically meaning that you're all so prepared to be ignored by everyone where you can both worship the awesomeness of Hermes unabated. Which as I said, is dangerous given that the only point anyone non-Hermes seems to serve is to eventually be your choir slaves that will worship you both till time itself ceases to exist.

Then there are other issues: such as apparently not interacting with my empire ever because you can't OOCly trust me (since telling you both how stupid your plans are is something to cause a giant rift between a senior member of an alliance and two green maggots fresh from the shit heap). So basically, ICly I have more than enough reason to blow the hell out of both of you, and OOCly enough reason to tell you both where to stick it considering an inter alliance shunning policy destroys cohesion. Which is rather ironic considering I was the one who suggested that NewHaven (and I guess by extension that meant nightbane, since we all knew he'd tag along even if his membership into the Ordo was always forbidden) be considered for both League and eventual Ordo membership. Indeed, I am the one who rescued you from that endless pit of shattered credibility after the Concordat rightfully handed your ass to you for acts of incompetence that lunatics sniffing cocaine laced with acid wouldn't find feasible.

So not only was the most egregious of disrespect shown to me, Alex(who in many ways deserves some of it for being as agitating as he willing chooses to be), Raem, and everyone who treated you like the scum you were and are. We offered salvation, and you both threw it in our faces. Then comes the channel, which is more of a minor inconvenience yet an act of stupid I shouldn't have to put up with.

NB never had the right to be an Op there, and Marduk never had the right to deOp me, and neither did Sensori as dead as the Ordo is. The founding ten members of the Ordo owned that channel, not you; it was a group creation that only has your name on it because you figured out how to reg the channel. Which is another oddity: Ermor taking Auman's side, yet I guess I can understand it considering how pissed off Sensori is at me for not faithfully posting in a side project RP thread for so long; who else does he play with that accepts his "RAWR I R UNDED OWNZOR U!" concept?

But, regardless of all that: you're both ignored. Everyone else is of course free to interact with you (as unlikely as that is) as they see fit. Right now I just need to figure out how to justify other things that I'm not ignoring, such as my landing on the north pole, and the troops in Turkisilvania. Other than that, you both can go back to that hole we fished you out of.

NB never had the right to be an Op there, and Marduk never had the right to deOp me, and neither did Sensori as dead as the Ordo is.

Buhuhuhu. When I came back, you weren't in the aop list. I simply started enforcing the removal of ops from people who aren't supposed to have such. And with you not being in the aop list, you aren't supposed to have ops. Simple as that.

Of course, instead of asking me to give you your status back which was removed for reasons I did not, and still do not know, you go around bitching about it elsewhere, publicly like this. This is the Neutron/ElectronX we've all come to love so much.

The founding ten members of the Ordo owned that channel, not you; it was a group creation that only has your name on it because you figured out how to reg the channel.

I didn't just simply "figure out" how to reg a channel, as I already knew how to do it! Note that since the Order is now DEAD according to you, it matters even less who considers himself a part of the original founding group, since the channel apparently no longer serves that purpose.

And to be quite honest, being an op on a channel does not equal ownership.

Which is another oddity: Ermor taking Auman's side, --

It is? It's your allies who are taking a stand against Ermor ICly, I have yet to do much of anything. I'd say it's more like you people slowly forcing me to help the other side than me siding with anyone. Not to mention that ICly the Order was - and is - quite alive. The Ashen Empire acting as a sort of peacekeeper with the Order stuff to stop others after what Raem did from taking over everything else doesn't change that fact.

-- yet I guess I can understand it considering how pissed off Sensori is at me for not faithfully posting in a side project RP thread for so long; who else does he play with that accepts his "RAWR I R UNDED OWNZOR U!" concept?

As it is, I don't really even really play NS, so yeah, I don't play with a lot of people. And point to me a single person that I've actually "owned" with Ermor. Can't? WHOA. MAYBE I DON'T OWNZOR U AFTER ALL LOL. It would seem that the point of view of some people doesn't equal the truth. And don't forget that you did accept Ermor quite heartily until you started breaking up the Order, so you don't have much to whine about in that respect.

Note that here "for so long" means a thread that would've taken like 10 posts per poster take, instead of the projected 1 month, tops, 7 months and me having to pester you about it at every turn until I got bored about the whole concept. Yes, it does get to one after a while.

And if you think that my dislike for you only comes from that one instance, you are sadly mistaken. It's not quite that shallow.

The internal bitchfest above aside, both Nightbane and New Haven have had more and twice more than sufficient time to respond to the attacks launched on their stuff in martian orbit.
Thus, as of now, both are ignored because frankly if you're too fucking retarded to even respond to the weakest of the forces attacking you, I really don't want anything to do with either of you morons.
The attack never happened, the Paragons never moved to assault you and can therefore be re-deployed elsewhere.
I sincerely hope that the pair of you enjoy your ever-shrinking circle of rp-partners.