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This will sound weird, but here we go: I'm making the genealogy of the royal family of my country, and I want to add some royal spouses to the kings.
I need princesses for:

1. King Frederick II, who married on 1780 Princess Elistansa of Paxomenia.
2. King Frederick III, who married on 1811, but died childless (too risky, huh?:p ).
3. King August I, who married twice: first on 1814, but his wife dies after giving birth to two babies. Secondly, in 1824, with a princess that gives him no issue.
4. King George I, who married in 1845.
5. King George II, who also married twice: first on 1887 to Princess Anasette of Paxomenia, who died on 1903 after giving birth to nine babies. Secondly, in 1911. From the second marriage he'll have two children, including Prince Louis Frederick, the only living uncle of the current king.
6. King Frederick IV, who married on 1921. His wife is the mother of the current king.

So, if you are (or were) a monarchy and want to marry a member of your dynasty to one of these kings, I'll be delighted, just tell me the names and titles of the princess in question, and that would be all, very easy.

Forgive my English... It not English.:-) badly I know this language, I translate from a computer. Айко, constitutional monarchy. King - Alec I (1978), is single. There is a sister, princess Elis (was born 1985). Genealogy apply.
Olgerd I (1542-1586), reigned 1560-86
Vladislav I (1563-1641), reigned 1586-1641
Olgerd II (1599-1644), reigned 1641-44
Olgerd III (1623-1647), reigned 1644-1647, will derthrow the brother, Eugene.
Eugene I (1628-1690), reigned 1647-1690. Two times were married. The first wife has poisoned.
Charles I (1670-1729), reigned 1690-1729
Eugene II Old (1691-1789), reigned 1729-1789.
Alexander I, the grandson of Eugene II (1768-1808), reigned 1789-1808
Alexander II, (1790-1852), reigned 1808-1852
Olgerd IV (1839-1900), reigned 1852-1900
Charles II (1871-1901) reigned, 1900-01
Eugene III (1893-1946) reigned, 1901-46
Alexander III (1917-1969) reigned, 1946-1969
Charles III (1955-1996) reigned, 1969-96
Alec I (was born 1978), reigning monarch reigned

By the way... Good idea.

Hey, non-english speakers are cool. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make yourself understandable. Here are a few corrections to your last statement, Ayko.

"Derthrow". This is not a word. You either mean 'dethrone' or 'overthrow'.

"The first wife has poisoned." Incorrect grammar. I assume you mean the first wife was poisoned, or has been poisoned. The way you stated it, "the first wife has" means she is the one that has. Following that with "poisoned", the past tense of "to poison", it seems she is the one that poisoned something.

I hope what i am trying to say makes sense. I know from experience it is difficult learning an unfamiliar language.

Thanks. You have correctly understood. It is necessary to learn English...:headbang:

King Argos IV - (ruled: 1480 - 1516)
Married Queen Elistansa to bring 2 nations under one rule as Paxomenia
3 Sons: Ghard, Marlk & Derse

King Ghard I (1516 - 1522) "Black Ghard"
Married Princess Ambralite
No Issue

King Marlk I (1522 - 1538)
Married Electress Samphyr
2 sons: Argos, Ghard 1 daughter: Elistansa

King Argos V (1538 - 1582) "Argos the Grand"
Married Duchess of Quantoum
1 son: Argos; 3 Daughters: Ambralite, Misilese (Married King Vladislav I), Carnamale

King Argos VI (1582 - 1604)
Married Princess Elicidra
3 daughters: Felicitas, Broawin, Caphrastra

King Ghard II (1604 - 1606) "Ghard the Elder"
Married Lady Wisilas of Gharmille
1 son: Eledrick

King Eledrick II (1606 - 1632) "Eledrick the Wise"
Married Princess Wasala
2 sons: Marlk, Cabral; 1 daughter: Ambralite;

King Marlk II (1632 - 1699)
Married Princess Eugene of Alistoss
1 son: Ghard; 3 daughters; Broawin, Eugene, Elistansa

King Ghard III (1699 - 1724) "Ghard the Fearless"
Married Princess Belicent
4 sons: Marlk (Died 1715) Argos, Eledrick, Derse

King Argos VI (1724 - 1728) "Argos the Terrible"
Died in the Civil Wars

1728 - 1736 INTERREGIUM

King Eledrick III (1736 - 1750)
Married Ansanet of Alqinaine
1 son: Marlk; 2 daughters: Elistansa, Broawin

King Marlk III (1750 - 1784)
Married Princess Malavarne
1 son: Marlk; 1 daughter; Elistansa (Married King Frederick II of Brasland)

King Marlk IV (1784 - 1798)
Married Electress Hersette
3 Sons; Argos, Eledrick, Derse

King Argos VII (1798 - 1833)
Married Princess Mermosette of Kandabra
- No issue

King Eledrick IV (1833 - 1841)
Married Lady Dorsa of Ghiblisege
1 son: Derse

King Derse XIII (1841 - 1867) "Derse the Scourge"
Married Princess Anasette
2 daughters: Elistansa, Anasette

Queen Elistansa (1867 - 1902)
Married Duke el Marraje
1 Son: Eledrick, Argos 1 Daughter: Anasette (Married King George II of Brasland in 1887 - Died in childbirth 1903)

King Eledrick V (1902 - 1916) "Eledrick the Last"
Married Duchess Maraselle
Killed in the 1st World War without issue

God save monarchy :p
The genealogy has started to appear. Monarches - join.:cool:

So here's an update:

King Frederick II married on 1780 to Princess Elistansa of Paxomenia, who gave him six children: Maria (1782), Frederick (1784), Alexandra (1785-1786), Alicia (1788), August (1789) y Theodor (1791-1805).

His great grandson, King George II, married on 1887 to another member of the Royal House of Paxomenia, Princess Anasette, who gave him nine children: Amalia (1889), Frederick (1890), Livia (1892), Anna (1894-1895), George (1896-1897), Martha (1898), Antonia (1899), Paul (1901) y Charlotte (1903). Queen Anasette died on 1903, after giving birth to her daughter Charlotte.

Sounds good to me - fertile women!

Apply for a Paxomenian throne. The Rights there is.;)

If any nation wants to add as a spouse to their monarch to any of our princesses, we would be glad to provide one.

Hm... Tatiyana, daughter Alexander II and King George I. OK?

I the Great Padishah Emperor Indriss XI have three marrigable daughters

Her Imperial Highness Amelia, The Crown Princess- Heir apparent
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Isobel, Duchess of Salusa Secondus
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Jessica, Duchess of Gedi-Prime

If your Majesty wishes for the hand of my eldest Amelia, their could be some political tension as she is the heir to The Golden Lion Throne. I wish for my Daughter to rule in her own right. That is why I perfer you choose Isobel or Jessica. Contact me swiftly on how you feel.

His Imperial Majesty,
Indriss XI, I

I the Great Padishah Emperor Indriss XI have three marrigable daughters

Her Imperial Highness Amelia, The Crown Princess- Heir apparent
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Isobel, Duchess of Salusa Secondus
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Jessica, Duchess of Gedi-Prime

If your Majesty wishes for the hand of my eldest Amelia, their could be some political tension as she is the heir to The Golden Lion Throne. I wish for my Daughter to rule in her own right. That is why I perfer you choose Isobel or Jessica. Contact me swiftly on how you feel.

His Imperial Majesty,
Indriss XI, I

I the Great Padishah Emperor Indriss XI have three marrigable daughters

Her Imperial Highness Amelia, The Crown Princess- Heir apparent
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Isobel, Duchess of Salusa Secondus
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Jessica, Duchess of Gedi-Prime

If your Majesty wishes for the hand of my eldest Amelia, their could be some political tension as she is the heir to The Golden Lion Throne. I wish for my Daughter to rule in her own right. That is why I perfer you choose Isobel or Jessica. Contact me swiftly on how you feel.

His Imperial Majesty,
Indriss XI, I

I the Great Padishah Emperor Indriss XI have three marrigable daughters

Her Imperial Highness Amelia, The Crown Princess- Heir apparent
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Isobel, Duchess of Salusa Secondus
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Jessica, Duchess of Gedi-Prime

If your Majesty wishes for the hand of my eldest Amelia, their could be some political tension as she is the heir to The Golden Lion Throne. I wish for my Daughter to rule in her own right. That is why I perfer you choose Isobel or Jessica. Contact me swiftly on how you feel.

His Imperial Majesty,
Indriss XI, I

I the Great Padishah Emperor Indriss XI have three marrigable daughters

Her Imperial Highness Amelia, The Crown Princess- Heir apparent
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Isobel, Duchess of Salusa Secondus
Her Imperial Highness, The Princess Jessica, Duchess of Gedi-Prime

If your Majesty wishes for the hand of my eldest Amelia, their could be some political tension as she is the heir to The Golden Lion Throne. I wish for my Daughter to rule in her own right. That is why I perfer you choose Isobel or Jessica. Contact me swiftly on how you feel.

His Imperial Majesty,
Indriss XI, I

Hm... Tatiyana, daughter Alexander II and King George I. OK?

How should I style her? "Princess Tatiyana of Aiko"?

If any nation wants to add as a spouse to their monarch to any of our princesses, we would be glad to provide one.

Hail! By thine request:

Arwulf*, Prince of Arysia, 10th Duke of Xanten, 7th Earl of Orania etc. etc. etc. (*1890 - +1963) x princess Charlotte of Brasland (1903 - ?)

Children:
Beogard, Prince of Arysia, 11th Duke of Xanten (*1924 - +1997)
Armgarde, Princess of Arysia, Lady of Xanten (*1926 - )
Hildebrand, Prince of Arysia, 8th Earl of Orania (*1929 - + 1984)
Korwulf, Prince of Arysia, Lord of Xanten (*1931 - +2002)

* Prince Arwulf is the third son of Siegebald III "the Reformer", Emperor of Arysia, Prince of Holtlandt, Duke of Narheem etc. etc. etc. (*1858 - + 1935).
When His Imperial Majesty died in 1935 he was succeeded by prince Arnwulf's oldest brother prince Waldgard as Siegebald IV.

Prince Arnwulf was known as a patron of the arts and founder of the Imperial Academy of Modern Art in Arysia's capital of Thrudheem. Princess Charlotte was revered across the Empire for Her work for children in need. After her death the citizens of Oldhelm in western Arysia unanimously voted to name the city's new Children's Hospital after Her.

Shall this be sufficient, milord?

Excellent! This marriage will be included in the Royal Genealogy.

Princess Charlotte married Prince Arwulf of Arysia on 1922, when she was only 19 years old. Their engagement was officially announced by the Royal Court of Brasland on March of the same year:

His Majesty The King announces the engagement of His beloved daughter, Princess Charlotte, to His Imperial Highness Prince Arwulf, son of His beloved cousin The Emperor of Arysia.
The wedding will take place September 25th at the Cathedral of St. Nicholas, Markund

i apologize for my message being posted so many times. it was an accident



Indriss XI, I

Princess Charlotte married Prince Arwulf of Asyria on 1922, when she was only 19 years old. Their engagement was officially announced by the Royal Court of Brasland on March of the same year:

I must point out that our nation is called Arysia, not Asyria. ;)

The mistake has been corrected;)

EXCLUSIVE NEWS!!!

THE ROYAL HOUSE OF BRASLAND announces:

Today, Baron Irian von Yverwitz, spokesman of the Royal House of Brasland, announced the official engament of His Royal Highness Prince Paul, youngest son of TM King Frederick V and the late Queen Maria Anna, to Her Imperial Highness Crown Princess Amelia of Maetron, daughter of Padishah Emperor Indriss XI of Maetron.

Well, we have still the following Kings unmarried:

King Frederick III, born on 1784; reigned between 1830 and 1833. On 1811 he got married to ...., but the marriage had no children, so he was succeeded by his brother, King August I, who was born in 1789 and reigned between 1833 and 1847. On 1814 he married ....., and they had two children: George (1815) and Maria (1817). His wife died in 1819. On 1824 the king married seconldy to ....., with whom he had no children.

King George II was born in 1857, and reigned between 1894 and 1941. By his first wife he had nine children, but she died in childbirth in 1903. The King married secondly on 1911 to ....., by whom he had two children: Catharina (1914) and Louis Frederick (1918-2007).

King Frederick IV was born in 1883 and reigned between 1941 and 1957. On 1921 he married to......., by whom he had three children: Adelaide (1923), Frederick (1926) and August (1928). Frederick IV is the grandfather of the current King, George III.

You can't just make up names and dates.

You need to first develop the House Law for the ruling family. Is the succession agnatic primogeniture, cognatic primogeniture, etc? are dynasts required to have spouses of equal birth? Are there religious requirements? Anything else you care to add?

Furthermore, royal families tend to intermarry with royal families of other countries; you might find it useful to find some other players here and get together and work it all out together.

But yeah, it's not enough to just make up a bunch of names and dates. You need to put some work into this.

You can't just make up names and dates.
Sure he can. *points at II and indicates all of the essentially made up names and numbers associated with engineering or designs or wars and whatnot*

The gritty monarchist details can come in later should he really want to go that deep into it. There is no requirement, however, just as there's no requirement that anyone pretending to be a rocket scientist get it right (as trust me, no one does).

Pardon me, but isn't making up the fictional history of a fictional country by definition nothing but making up names and dates?

Revolutionaries threw the entire Milosian Royal Family of Errinundera off the top of a cliff over 200 years ago so we are unable to provide any breeding stock.

Just be careful that it doesn't happen to you. Make sure you keep your subjects contented.

Pardon me, but isn't making up the fictional history of a fictional country by definition nothing but making up names and dates?

...no

You can't just make up names and dates..

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I can.

You need to first develop the House Law for the ruling family. Is the succession agnatic primogeniture, cognatic primogeniture, etc? are dynasts required to have spouses of equal birth? Are there religious requirements? Anything else you care to add?

That's up to me to decide. I opened this thread saying that I was looking for princesses (wives) for the Kings, nothing else. So, there's no point on you telling me what I have to do.


Furthermore, royal families tend to intermarry with royal families of other countries; you might find it useful to find some other players here and get together and work it all out together.

Well, if you haven't read the thread, many nations have provided me with their princesses to match them with my kings and princes. So your point is not valid. Besides, believe me that I know about royal marriages, and succesion laws, dynastic rules, etc. I know that a Royal Highness is different than a Serene Highness, or that a Rheingraf is different than a Graf, or that a Fürst and a Prinz are different too. What you are telling me is nothing new for me.


But yeah, it's not enough to just make up a bunch of names and dates. You need to put some work into this.

What do you mean?

Revolutionaries threw the entire Milosian Royal Family of Errinundera off the top of a cliff over 200 years ago so we are unable to provide any breeding stock.

Just be careful that it doesn't happen to you. Make sure you keep your subjects contented.

Our current monarch, King George III, is being successful on this.