Jimanistan
12-09-2006, 17:56
Comrades,
The time for liberation is now. I hail from a small Nation, and it is not powerful, but Jimanistan is a wonderful place. All because of a Socialist-ish Government. (and The incredible Music of Led Zeppelin blaring from the Party Radio Station:cool: ) The top notable reasons to embrace socialism are as follows:
1: It is very much like Democracy, (if done correctly. for incorrect example, see N. Korea:headbang: ) but without the greedyness of Capitalism.
2: in the mind set of common people (unless you're a Nazi... you're not a Nazi, are you?) it is the second best thing to Direct Democracy, which is impractical for any large Nation.
3: Woody Guthrie supported it. (for me, that's almost enough as it is:p )
4: you can't say it's bad if noone even used it yet, (because socialist rebels are too busy debating) plus, it's difficult to keep it from tyranny.
5: it is easily the least corrupted government. (except direct democracy, see pt. 2)
6: and there's a ton of Vodka!:D
I could go on, but this is the major reasons for socialism.
The Ctan
12-09-2006, 18:47
Comrades,
The time for liberation is now. I hail from a small Nation, and it is not powerful, but Jimanistan is a wonderful place. All because of a Socialist-ish Government. (and The incredible Music of Led Zeppelin blaring from the Party Radio Station:cool: ) The top notable reasons to embrace socialism are as follows:
OOC: This doesn't seem to be that much of an in-character post, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. In any case, my resposes are out of character, but you can take them as 'in' if it pleases you.
1: It is very much like Democracy, (if done correctly. for incorrect example, see N. Korea:headbang: ) but without the greedyness of Capitalism.
Err.. You don't seem to understand socialism. It is neither democratic or anti-democratic. It is an economic system which can be instituted democratically, or non-democratically.
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. - American Heritage Dictionary.
This is neither democratic or non-democratic. It is, however, a rather authoritarian approach to economics.
2: in the mind set of common people (unless you're a Nazi... you're not a Nazi, are you?) it is the second best thing to Direct Democracy, which is impractical for any large Nation.
ICly, I am a direct democracy, of a sort. Do you have numbers on this? I think most 'common people' don't care what system is used so long as it provides safety, food, and a decent roof over one's head, something Socialism is not noticably better than Capitalism in doing.
3: Woody Guthrie supported it. (for me, that's almost enough as it is:p )
Who?
4: you can't say it's bad if noone even used it yet,
This is a fallacy (http://atheism.about.com/od/logicalfallacies/a/notruescotsman.htm). What's more, it's a weak one. Various groups have tried state ownership of all or most industry.
(because socialist rebels are too busy debating) plus, it's difficult to keep it from tyranny.And of course, the fact that 'Socialist' which is to say Marxist regimes typically end up as a despotism (No surprise, even Marx talked about the necessity of a dictatorship during the Revolution) means it shouldn't be used as an argument against these systems why? That's like saying 'You think I shouldn't leap the Grand Canyon on a Segway just because everone else who's done it has fallen to their deaths? They weren't doing it right.' If it has a habit of consistantly not working, it's reasonable to presume that it isn't going to work, go get a sandwich, and try to think up something else that achieves the same goals.
5: it is easily the least corrupted government. (except direct democracy, see pt. 2)Again, presuming you mean 'Socialism,' which is to say, Marxist revolutionary socialism... What?I could go on, but this is the major reasons for socialism.No, the 'reasons for Socialism' would be rhetoric that appeals to those who want a common enemy and have a poor standard of living. There are times when socialist policies (you seem to be calking about Marxism/Communism, rather than more moderate and practical forms of Socialism) are not only justified but necessery, and there are times when the reasons for them are perfect. But your reasons... not great. Please read some more on the topic, get some history books about Lenin, maybe.