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RejisStar WC30 Bid Thread

Starblaydia
20-07-2006, 23:18
The (belated)
Starblaydia and Rejistania
World Cup 30
Bid Thread

First of all...
Yes, yes, this should be the Starblaydia and Legalese bid thread, but no-one has seen hide nor hair of Legal for nearly two weeks. This has caused me to delay the WC30 host vote until he turns up, but as the Semi-Finals will soon be upon us: no Legal, no bid, no vote = big trouble. So, with the wonders of two IRC networms (Star and Rejis) we have this bid for you.

Roleplaying
If you've read the first post of the Sign-up thread you'll see my little OOC message to y'all. That's all I need to say, really: Make it special, guys, it's WC30. XXX. Thirty. etc.

This, if you come over all Superbowlesque, is number XXX, which is quite an acheivement on NS. It'd be difficult to do something special, organisation-wise, that wouldn't completely undo all the incredible amounts of effort we've all put into this over the last however-many cups (14 for me). All I ask for (as if you'll give me what I ask for, hehe) is that the participants make it special through our behaviour, RPing, storylines, newspapers and all the rest. It's the summer time, there'll be no football on the TV, and we'll have WC30 on our hands. Make it special, guys and gals.

Starblaydia, both ICly and OOCly

Scorination
Leagion! Yes, honest folks, Starblaydia has been taught how to use Leagion. Style modifiers from the NSFootySim equivalent of +5 to -5 will be used (though Leagion refers to them as being from +200 to -200), as we love the extreme craziness factor of it. NS is a twisted version of the real world anyways, so why not in sport?

Ranks
Apparently the word is 'projected', using KPB values to turn into spaced-out linear ranks, so the difference between 1st and 2nd, KPB-wise, is reflected in the ranking used in scorination - since KPB-based formulas are too random (so says Rejis, she who knows about such things) and create all sorts of nasty results.

RP Bonus
We all love the RP bonus, yes? Well, nearly all of us. Anyways, the RP bonus for RejisStar will be based on both quantity and quality and will be quite high, comparatively.

Finally OMFG Fix0rzed Voting!
Schiavonia is a good mate of mine, we hosted WC20 together as Starblaydia and Druida. And, as WCC President I would usually be collecting the votes. Let me put this on the record to say that there is no way in hell (orthodox or otherwise) that I'd cheat NEWI/Druida/Schia out of hosting a Cup if he won it on the vote. I know that, Schia knows that, but lots of you out there probably don't believe that, so if there's enough yelling in the WCDT when I open the voting we can have someone impartial do it. You guys trust me to run the World Cup Committee, but do you trust me to collect votes when I'm involved?

That was
the (belated)
Starblaydia and Rejistania
World Cup 30
Bid Thread
Spaam
20-07-2006, 23:26
I understand not wanting a default bid, but... it was ok if you were delaying to wait for Legalese. However getting a different partner is kinda dodgy, smacks of abuse of power. Would any other nation get away with it? No. I know my hollering won't do any good, but not too happy about this situation.
Spaam
20-07-2006, 23:42
Next... first question: so two nations whose KPB differ by 0.01 would have the same difference as two whose KPB differ by 1, if they are consecutive?
Starblaydia
20-07-2006, 23:43
I understand not wanting a default bid, but... it was ok if you were delaying to wait for Legalese. However getting a different partner is kinda dodgy, smacks of abuse of power. Would any other nation get away with it? No. I know my hollering won't do any good, but not too happy about this situation.

Had I not been in Montreal when the Finals began Legal and I would have had a bid thread up weeks ago and the vote would probably have been completed by now. Every day he hasn't been around recently has been another day wasted, another day of the vote put back.

It's been said before that all the solid hosting-type people have either hosted the cup recently or are away about this time. I desperately don't want to have to have a default host for any World Cup, I mean only one pair of eligible people think they can/want to do it? That's an awful prospect.

So, yes, I've somewhat stretched my own unwritten rules - thankfully there's no official timeline-structure for WC hosting, yet - to find a co-bidder who's around at the moment, but a choice, a vote and a competition is what it's all about. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but I think it's best to have it.
Spaam
20-07-2006, 23:46
Of course you do, but like it or not, you're at least a little biased. You have to separate your presidential duties from wanting to host. Ask yourself this question: would you have done this for any other nation but yourself? If the answer is no, then it is really unfair on Schia.
Starblaydia
21-07-2006, 00:14
Of course you do, but like it or not, you're at least a little biased. You have to separate your presidential duties from wanting to host. Ask yourself this question: would you have done this for any other nation but yourself? If the answer is no, then it is really unfair on Schia.

Depends who it was and how nicely they asked, and I'd be on at them every day to find another bid partner or - somehow - get their asses into gear and post a thread. I set a deadline of tonight to find myself another bid partner, otherwise I'd default it to Schia/Qutar, who do deserve to host a cup anyway.

I've never been unbiased in my views while as President, actually. I would hope one of the reasons I've been voted in here is because of my views.
Rejistania
21-07-2006, 00:15
Next... first question: so two nations whose KPB differ by 0.01 would have the same difference as two whose KPB differ by 1, if they are consecutive?
The ranks, we use are not consecutive, if there is a 0.01 difference, it would mean that the projected KPBs would be very near to each other. If 54.3 and 54.31 are KPB, then 1 and ~1.05 would be projected KPBs (numbers pulled out of the hat). if the difference is 100 times as high, same is for the difference.
Andossa Se Mitrin Vega
21-07-2006, 04:54
Let me go on record saying that I have no problem with the RejisStar bid for WC30 hosts. I do believe in the integrity of both nations very much. The reason I have no issue with this is because no blame can be laid on Star. I know this because I am supposed to co-host the BoF with Legal this time myself. And as stated, Legal is now MIA. That leaves me with the prospect of either waiting on Legal to return for the BoF, or petitioning to find another co-host. Time is running short and things must keep moving.

With Legal MIA, and Rejis looking for a host bid partner, I think it is fine the two have teamed up to make this bid. And just think - It would take Star and Rejis out of the qualifiers. That is enough reason to give this consideration before deciding who to vote for.
Qazox
21-07-2006, 04:59
And just think - It would take Star and Rejis out of the qualifiers. That is enough reason to give this consideration before deciding who to vote for.


OOc: yay now my chances are .0003% to qualify :cool:
Spaam
21-07-2006, 05:24
Let me go on record saying that I have no problem with the RejisStar bid for WC30 hosts. I do believe in the integrity of both nations very much. The reason I have no issue with this is because no blame can be laid on Star. I know this because I am supposed to co-host the BoF with Legal this time myself. And as stated, Legal is now MIA. That leaves me with the prospect of either waiting on Legal to return for the BoF, or petitioning to find another co-host. Time is running short and things must keep moving.

With Legal MIA, and Rejis looking for a host bid partner, I think it is fine the two have teamed up to make this bid. And just think - It would take Star and Rejis out of the qualifiers. That is enough reason to give this consideration before deciding who to vote for.
As much as I think Star is a nob, no, I don't doubt either of their integrity at all. I'm just saying I personally think its a little unfair, considering Star would not necessarily let any other nation into the same deal. Star would've been better off hosting the BoF with ASMV instead, and getting both underway, instead of letting this thing fester for anothe couple of weeks.
Starblaydia
21-07-2006, 20:07
As much as I think Star is a nob, no, I don't doubt either of their integrity at all.

Thanks, I think.

I'm just saying I personally think its a little unfair, considering Star would not necessarily let any other nation into the same deal. Star would've been better off hosting the BoF with ASMV instead, and getting both underway, instead of letting this thing fester for anothe couple of weeks.

It depends on the person, if Schia had asked me for extra time to get Qutar back on the net and get a bid up I would have said 'ok'. Had it been... erm... Hiiraan, then probably not.