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NS PGA Tour II [RP, Discussion & Results Thread]:

Toraquay
11-07-2006, 08:49
Nation States PGA Tour II [RP, Discussion & Results Thread]:
This is the RP, Scores & Discussion Thread for the NSPGA II.
I will update & add the courses/events/players later....

NSPGA II Tour Players:
Danny Biggs
Tyler Boschert
Max Foray
Gary Kerns
Levi Jones
Henry Jui
Charlie Campbell
John Martino
Quinton Giltz
Jim Preston
Antonio Long
Ryan Walker
Ryan Williams
Frank Jacks
David Harren
William Jones III
Steve Peterson
Floyd Nelson
Carlo Dimatraz
Taylor Stamp
Steve Henry
George Hamilton

NSPGA II Events:
Old Havana Open
The Heritage
The Invitational
The Classic
Spaniard Open
The Colonial
BigBoxmart Invitational
CSS Open (Major)
Quakmybush Classic
NSPGA Masters (Major)
Los Mexican Open
Whitsundays Cup
NSPGA Open (Major)
Southern World Challenge
Thousand Oaks Classic
Caribbean Players Championship (Major)
Sherwood Masters
The International
NSPGA Championship (Major)
Los Mexico
11-07-2006, 09:00
Question Toraquay - Are Amatuar Players allowed on the NSPGA II? I might submit one. Do they need to turn pro before playing. Other nations could also express their oppionions on this question too if they would mind....
San Haven
11-07-2006, 09:11
If i was hosting they would be. I would allow them Toraquay. Even though with little experience they are very unlikly to win an event. But if they do & they are not yet pro they miss out on the money.

So if they are & start to play well as the season continues you could RP them & say they are turning Professional....
San Haven
12-07-2006, 01:35
San Haven releases final players to the NSPGA II:
The San Haven Players line-up will be as follows: -
William Jones III
Carlo Dimatraz
Antonio Long
Steve Peterson*
Rhyan Walker*

* - Amatuar

Three players of the San Haven Mob are amoungst the Top 10 in World Rankings (According to the NSPGA 1.) Steve Peterson & Ryan Walker made it to the NSPGA II after both had fine rounds at the NSPGA II San Haven Qualifying Rounds in Old Havana in the past week. Walker shot an amazing 16 under, a bogey free 6 rounds, while Peterson, 17 years of age shot 15 under par with his 6 rounds including 3 bogeys & a double bogey. Steve Peterson would bring more popularity to teenage golf if he can secure a win on tour. Both the Amatuars cannot accept endorsements or Winnings otherwise they will loose their Amatuar Status....
San Haven
13-07-2006, 02:38
World Rankings (Top 10):
1. William Jones III
2. Drew Jacobsen
3. Danny Biggs
4. Mike Loyke
5. Daniel Danzig
6. Antonio Long
7. Layton Aykenne
8. Carlo Dimatraz
9. Pete Anders
10. David Harren

These might assist with the NSPGA II Scorinators...
Thats the rankings for the first season, we have two more rounds left of the season (NSPGA Masters) before the NSPGA 1 is finished, so there will not be much diffference in Rankings, but if it changes i will just edit it here...

By the way, we have 5 of those players returning this season - Biggs, Jones III, Dimatraz, Harren & Long....

How will you determine rankings this season???
Los Mexico
13-07-2006, 03:06
Los Mexico has began negoating with the NSPGA II committee headed by Toraquay to purchase possible broadcasting rights. It was announced overnight on Air, that the Government in assocatiation with the LMPGA would pay up to $600 Million to broadcast live golf for the entire season, with at least 5 hours a day..

It was still awaiting a Toraquan Reply....
Toraquay
16-07-2006, 02:07
OCC: We shall begin this week! i still have to put up the list of events etc

Los Mexico - Yes, we have a deal!
San Haven
18-07-2006, 11:36
Are you a golfer from the 1st season or do you know a little of the NSPGA 1, test your skills here:

http://www03.quizyourfriends.com/takequiz.php?quizname=060718063442-947810
Toraquay
19-07-2006, 08:33
The NSPGA II Season has finally started with the Practise Rounds of the Old Havana Open starting. The entire field is eligible for the first event including last seasons Number One William Jones III is is looking to defend his Old Havana Title with a second consective win at the famous course.

Several amatuars are also on tour, with not one of them saying they want to turn pro now, but are all saying that they will wait & see how they perform against the likes of Jones III, Biggs, Harren, Boschert & Kerns.

The Field will be chasing down a first prize of NS$792,000 at one of last seasons events which turned out to be a great 72 holes. The entire purse is one of the lowest with only NS$5,662,000.

All players will be trying their best, before the game kicks off tommorow with the first round. A top 8 performance will set-you up for a great season, if more top 8s & wins including majors come....
The CO Springs School
25-07-2006, 06:01
OOC: I'll be gone on vacation for the next two weeks, so I won't be RPing much. I hope to post player's notes for my course, Jurassic Springs Country Club, before I leave Wednesday (26th of July, 2006, about 1500 GMT).
San Haven
25-07-2006, 06:07
Toraquay has gone on Vacation too - for 6 weeks!!! Thing is we will have to wait until he comes back & i have offered to fulfil the 6 weeks for him, but he wont come to the party. He has gone to South American for 4 weeks & 2 weeks in Australia (Where i live), hopefully he will play some golf while he is here In Australia, he is a 8 handicapper, pity i am not the same, i am 17 right now, down from 25 in three months....
The CO Springs School
02-09-2006, 08:33
I've decided that since compiling ALL the course notes was taking way too long, I'll just post this now and edit as I get the notes together.

Note that all hole distances are given from the center of the Championship teeing ground to the center of the green. The pin locations, and thus the hole distances, vary. Also note that there may be some minor discrepancies between small details in this post and some of my other posts. In those cases, regard this post as authoritative and the conflicting posts as being in error.

Where not specifically stated otherwise, fairways and greens are guarded by a mixture of trees and medium-deep rough.

With that in mind, here are hole-by-hole notes for Jurassic Springs Country Club, the proud host of the 2006 CSS Open.

Hole 1 (par 4, 439 yards): There are two separate stretches of fairway on this dogleg left--the first goes straight out from the tee and ends about 275 yards downrange. The second is perpendicular to the first stretch of fairway, extending about 150 yards to the green. The two fairways are separated by a ten-yard-wide-bunker--it's small, but very strategically placed, and many aggressive players going for the second fairway with a draw shot off the tee will find themselves here if they're not careful. For more conservative players, the safe play is to hit the tee shot the length of the first fairway, but be accurate--the landing area, about 225 yards from the tee, is only about 25 yards wide, with pine trees guarding the left and a large bunker on the right. However, if you place the ball correctly, it will catch the downslope and roll nicely all the way to the end of the first fairway. The approach is uphill, so be sure to get the ball high enough in the air and give it some spin. The green is 25 yards square, slopes front-to-back, and is guarded by a bunker on the left and by rough behind. The rough guarding this green is particularly penal: miss the green long and double bogey is almost assured. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 4.92 strokes.

Hole 2 (par 3, 209 yards): The fairway here is offset to the left of the tee, so your tee shot must be able to carry the water hazard guarding the fairway's right side. If you plan on shooting straight at the green, be sure to bring the ball in high and soft, with very little roll, and land it on the green and not short of it, as a lack of power will place you squarely in the bunker guarding the right side of the end of the fairway. If you're unsure about clearing the water, play for par by hitting a left-to-right fade shot to land on the fairway--a good roll may even leave you on the green with a putt for birdie. Water guards both sides of the fairway; if you choose to lay up, be accurate. The green is small (25 yards square), flat, and surrounded on three sides by trees. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 3.31 strokes.

Hole 3 (par 4, 436 yards): The fairway on this dogleg right is configured in such a way that you must hit a left-to-right fade shot off the tee in order to avoid the trees guarding the right side of the fairway. However, the margin of error on this shot is large because the fairway is one of the widest on the course. In addition, a good tee shot will put the ball on the downslope and give it plenty of roll down toward the green. The fairway curves sharply to the right at the end as it leads to the small (25 yards square) green. The green slopes right-to-left and is guarded behind and on the right by bunkers. Par is very difficult to save from these greenside bunkers, especially the large one behind the green. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 4.25 strokes.

Hole 4 (par 5, 525 yards): The fairway at this "double-dogleg" par 5 goes right off the tee, then back to the left some 270 yards down. Though it may be tempting for some players to draw around the dogleg, there is a very strategically placed pot bunker right in the middle of the otherwise perfect landing zone; most overly aggressive tee shots have an infuriating tendency to find this bunker. The forests guarding both sides of the fairway are less penal than there are on most of the course's other holes; players can and do recover for par, and sometimes even birdie, after missed tee shots (though punching out can sometimes be tricky depending on course conditions). The second leg of fairway is bowl-shaped, going downhill from the bend in the fairway and then back up as you approach the green. The green is flat, larger than others seen to this point (25 yards deep and 50 yards wide), and surrounded by bunkers on three sides. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.34 strokes.

Hole 5 (par 4, 382 yards): The fairway on this dogleg left is relatively wide but is uphill most of the way, so the modus operandi here is "Grip it and rip it." Conservative players should put the ball down the left to avoid the thick forest guarding the right side; a more aggressive (or more accurate) player should elect to go down the right side to give a better angle for the second shot. The longest hitters may try to cheat the dogleg by drawing the shot from right to left, but this requires plenty of power (to get the ball up the hill) and loft (to fly over the trees on the right side of the fairway). Missing the fairway off the tee means punching through thick trees and deep rough; this is doubly dangerous from the left side of the fairway, as the angle to the green is blind from this lie. The approach is very touchy because the fairway slopes down significantly as it makes its way toward the small (25 yards square) green. In addition, the green is guarded left and front by bunkers; thus, the best play is to aim for the back of the green and bring the ball in high and soft. The green slopes toward the back-right corner. Par can be saved if the green is missed to the left, but missing to the right, which is far more common, almost guarantees the player bogey or worse. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.63 strokes.

Hole 6 (par 3, 249 yards): The thing that makes this par-3 so treacherous is not its length (hefty, but manageable), its fairway (narrow to start but wide toward the green), its trees (sparse and far off the fairway), its rough (some of the thinnest on the course), or its bunkers (surrounding the green on three sides but not very penal). What WILL have players tearing their hair out is an innocent looking stream named Jurassic Creek, which wends its way along the left side of the fairway before taking an abrupt right turn and running between the end of the fairway and the green. Though the stream is only about five yards wide, the effect it has on where you can land your shot is immense; the final 25 yards of the fairway slope down to the creek bed, ten yards on either side of the creek are laden with unplayably thick vegetation, and the front half of the 25-yard-deep green slopes back down. This means that there is a 60-yard-long stretch of space on which a player cannot land his ball. To clear 250 yards with a high shot, and land softly on the green, is no mean feat. You may want to lay up 35-40 yards short of the end of the fairway, pitch over the creek, and play for par. If you want to try and land your tee shot all the way on the back of the green without having it roll into the back bunker, it can certainly be done, but don't say we didn't warn you--if you overshoot, stopping the ball when coming out of that bunker is a nightmare because of the green's slope toward the creek. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 4.66 strokes.

Hole 7 (par 4, 407 yards): The tee shot on this dogleg right is difficult to place--a straight shot down the first leg of fairway will probably stay in play but leaves a long (170 yards) and difficult approach. Meanwhile, a fade shot from right to left to cut the dogleg off the tee will find dense forest and deep rough if missed to the left or a pot bunker if missed to the right, but will leave an easier approach if executed properly. If you find yourself coming out of the rough after missing the fairway to the left, be very careful, as the slope of the second leg of fairway can easily carry your ball into a large bunker guarding the left side. The small (25 yards square) green is wickedly steep, with the lowest portion in the center sloping upwards to all sides, and is guarded on the left and back by bunkers. Don't be fooled by the false front of the green, which slopes steeply back down toward the fairway and can easily carry your ball all the way into the forest on the right side. If you miss your approach and find yourself in any of the very penal hazards near the green, God be with you; you're probably looking at triple bogey. Jurassic Springs CC management is considering making changes to this hole, the hardest on the course, after the CSSPGA Player's Union filed an "excessive difficulty" complaint earlier this year. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 6.69 strokes.

Hole 8 (par 5, 562 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.19 strokes.

Hole 9 (par 4, 399 yards): The tee shot on this dogleg right is a classic risk vs. reward proposition: if you go for broke on the tee shot by fading left to right and are successful, you'll be in great shape for a close approach and a birdie; if you miss--resist the urge to tear up your scorecard. The narrow (25 yards wide) fairway is guarded by trees and bunkers on the right side; on the left side, forest and deep rough give way to the driving range (out-of-bounds territory) at the bend. Even if you do manage to hit the fade shot correctly, the slope has an unfortunate tendency to carry some balls into a bunker on the left side of the fairway, just past the bend. To play it safe, hit a straight shot to land just short of the bend, then skirt the margin of the forest on your second shot and play for par from there. Be careful with your approach on this hole--the fairway gives way to rough 50 yards before the green, so don't count on hitting short and running the ball up. If you can clear the distance with a high, soft shot, do it; if not, lay up to the end of the fairway, then pitch on to leave yourself a short par putt. The small (25 yards square) green slopes toward the back-left corner and is guarded behind by a bunker, left by OB territory (the driving range), and right and front by rough. After rounding the bend in the fairway, the view of the magnificent clubhouse, with the backdrop of the Kodiak Mountains, is simply breathtaking. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.43 strokes.

Hole 10 (par 4, 386 yards): On this dogleg right, the key is to thread your tee shot through the pine forest directly in front of the tee box and land it on the fairly narrow (30-35 yards wide) fairway. While at first glance this appears impossible, it's actually much easier than it looks, and it can be accomplished in one of two ways. Fading left to right, directly through the trees, is the aggressive play; it takes power and accuracy to get through the trees, over the water hazard on the fairway's left side, and onto the fairway, but a successful result will leave you with a fairly simple approach. Drawing right to left is the conservative play; by going around the major portion of the forest and utilizing a long, straight stretch of fairway, you increase your odds on the tee shot but will likely leave yourself a more difficult approach. Whatever you choose, try to land on the left side of the fairway; the right side slopes down toward a dense forest, and punching out is touchy. Whatever you do, DO NOT be off the fairway 50-75 yards from the green, because the fairway slopes up significantly at this point, and your punch shot (which is really your only play) has an excellent chance of rolling right back to your feet. The small (25 yards square), flat green is guarded left and back by a single enormous bunker, and on the right by trees. The greenside stand of trees is the more treacherous enemy here; damp, dead leaves collect at the bases of these trees, deadening your lie significantly (three shots to get out from under these trees is not unreasonable). For this reason, take a lofted club and get the ball in the air; punching out from under those trees could take five strokes or more. On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 4.89 strokes.

Hole 11 (par 3, 240 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 3.86 strokes.

Hole 12 (par 4, 395 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.86 strokes.

Hole 13 (par 5, 518 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.98 strokes.

Hole 14 (par 4, 470 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.71 strokes.

Hole 15 (par 3, 214 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 3.84 strokes.

Hole 16 (par 4, 409 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 4.97 strokes.

Hole 17 (par 5, 559 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 6.78 strokes.

Hole 18 (par 4, 414 yards): On this hole in 2005, CSSPGA players averaged 5.38 strokes.
The CO Springs School
06-09-2006, 03:01
Toraquay was supposed to be gone for six weeks starting July 25, right? Today's September 5--six weeks from July 25--and nothing. Hope everything is all right.

Can't wait to get this underway.