NationStates Jolt Archive

This will be the official forum where members of the Derkans will come to discuss Regional matters due to the fact that past posts on NS evetnually disappear due to a large amount of messaging. Only members of the Derkans will post here. Ideas and debates will take place here so that they will be logged for future reference.

can we add some separations of powers and it should be a little better there

Working on that in my Constitution.

I think that the constitution needs to be as short as possible. The more rules we add, the more complicated things get and complication is not necessary. As for using endorsements in my voting system, I now understand it better and see that it is not to be used to cast a vote. Therefore, i apologize for suggesting that.

On another note, i happened across this. this is taken from a website describing a game....very sad.

"Planetarion is a science fiction war game where thousands of worlds and hundreds of galaxies fight for the domination of the universe or merely survival. Planetarion is played through a html interface, and does not require any kind of download or installation of any kind of software......"


"What our players have to say"

"I love [Planetarion], dont even need my girl anymore. It has everything." - Emperor

Thats pretty sad if you ask me...anyway....where is everyone?

The whole "don't need my girl" thing is sad, but isn't the basic idea of that game what we're doing (just not on space scale)?

I was talking about what the player said. I didnt really look much into the game, the player quote just caught my attention.

I guess I'll submit this, but we can fill in the holes where we see them. Well here goes......

This was originally the Balmoran Constitution post, and was voted out in a landside victory in which all nations of the region did NOT vote (lazy bums). It has, of course, become obsolete, but if there ever were a coup..... ;P (jk). (Or maybe..... :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:) (Nah, jk ;) )

Thats not bad. It does cover a lot of ground. However, there is one or two things that cause me trouble. One of them is forcing nations to endorse a certain country during times that we are not overthrowing other regions. i think the right to endorse the person you want should be upheld. the other is all the complicated voting procedures and various offices involved. this doesnt need to be a huge investment in time to work in my opinion.

Well, like I said, I just thought "what the heck" and posted it, but it's there now so the people can discuss its good points and its flaws so that it can be fixed.

While I do agree with both constitutions, I like balmoris' better because it better explains the rules. But Veni brings up a good point about supporting only one person after their elected UN delegate. I also do not agree with Balmoris' War article in which it states the formula for determining how many battle must be played to win the war between two nations.

One thing I forgot to mention: I think a motion for a deadline for voting on a constitution.

Well, the formula is to promote realism. I mean, would you expect Malaysia to defeat the U.S. in one battle?

one point I would like to change is accepting new members, we don't need to do that just the ejection vote is needed we have a password to control inflow we dont need to vote on acceptance.

ill be makin a couple changes to my constitution to cover a couple more areas. i will edit my last post so as to save space on the forum, so look up there for any changes. I will let you know when i am done.

Well, the password needs to be hidden (in UN delegate region control) so that just one guy can come in and do what we are trying to do by telling all his buddies the password, and after that the password needs to be changed after ejection for the same reason. I also think there needs to be rules put on screening new members. Also, there needs to be more feedback, if not here, then I guess the region messageboard, but we need to try to get a final draft written and voted on.

i VOTE for the constitution dont have much time to write right now but FOR

I think both of us need time to modify our constitutions.

I do agree about the password, but I am skeptical about the screening of new people. It could be beneficial but I think the delegate should decide who we screen because if one of the four fouders (that doesn't include me) know the person or more than two in the region know the person I think a screening is not needed.

I like Tennessee's idea.

Toothless makes a good point there. I also agree with him about a deadline for submission of revisions of a constitution not that it will be aproved once it is revised but at least we will have something to look at in a finnished form then if we need to we can set new deadlines as needed. on one final note since we have not gotten the Gov up and going but I am only acting as an interum delagate until we can have a vote but until that time I would like to have your support as the inturum until a vote can be made if that does not sound like a good idea then to each his own but I think no matter what happens we all need to support the same man for regional strength and unity. I am also running for the position full time but if I am not elected I will personaly endorse the canidate who is. I also believe a term limit needs to be put in place.

Actually, I put a yearly term in my Constitution and other UN delegation rules. Also, I NEED MORE INPUT if I'm to edit my Constitution.

Ive got family here right now, so i cant really work on it. Hold any changes

I also agree there needs to be a set term for the delegate. When the election occurs I think the current delegate should still be able to run if they like, but a year is too long. I think there should be an official vote each month to determine the delegate. Delegate canidates will announce they are running and debate the issues at hand. But for now we need to get a government. Off subject a little here, does anybody know the two knew people who joined on July 2?

I think one month is to short, so we could go half-way and say maybe two or three months. Also, Veni said that he invited a friend. I know him, so the next time I talk to him, I'll ask if one of those nations are his.

all right, here it is again. I welcome any questions, comments, whatever.

The Constitution of the Derkan Region

Article I. Rules of Conduct

Section 1. Currently, the main goal of the Derkan region is to overthrow other regions. When that time comes, a Raiding Party leader will be elected through endorsements. All nations participating in the raid must work as a team to get the job done, and must follow the instructions of the raid leader.

Section 2. All nations in the Derkan region must use the Derka Derka mark as their currency. They must also have a Derkanese animal.

Article II. War

Section 1. In times of dispute, countries that can not come to an agreement by means of diplomacy may choose to engage in war. War must be played in one of the following ways:
1.Age of Empires Expansion Trial
2.Act of War Demo
3.Some form of multiplayer chess

Section 2. Battles can be fought for the rights of the vote of another nation. In most cases, 1 battle will decide the outcome of the war. The only time more than one battle will be required is if the vote is of great significance and both parties and another neutral party see fit that more than one engagement is necessary.

Section 3. The consequences of losing a war must be accepted. If a losing nation does not comply with the loss consequences, they will be punished.

Section 4. Other games can be used as substitutes if (a) the games stated above will not work,(b) neither of the combatants have the above stated games,(c) both parties would like to play another game.

Article III. Daily Voting and Operation Procedures

Section 1. All nations have the same power to decide issues within the region. Each nation will get one(1) vote to contribute to the polls, regardless of their regional influence or whether or not they are the regional delegate.

Section 2. Any nation can be admitted to the Derkan region if they agree with our ideals and goals. No vote will be required to admit them. If a nation should break the rules of this region, their actions will be reviewed and consequences will be passed. At least a 51% majority will be required to punish a nation, and a 2/3 majority to expell them from the region.

Section 3. All votes will last for a period of 24 hours.

Section 4. The UN delegate will not have executive powers under the Constitution. This is to insure simplicity of the game. He will merely direct daily activites and perform the duties stated in the Nation States FAQ. Because the right to free endorsement(see bill of rights, second amendment) can not be upheld if the UN delegate is elected, the delegate will be empowered through normal Nation States procedures. (S)he will not serve a term, and can vary daily.

Article IV. Expandability

Section 1. These articles of Regional Confederation can be modified if a 2/3 voting majority agrees on a subject. Voting will take place on the region forum only. The vote will last for 24 hours so that all nations will have a chance to vote. It is the UN delegate's job to accurately record the votes. If the delegate is found changing votes, an investigation will ensue. If that person is found guilty, they will be immediately removed from the Derkan region.


The Derkan Region Bill of Rights

1st Amendment
All nations within the Derkan Region have to right to express their opinions freely and without consequence.

2nd Amendment
All Derkan nations have the right to endorse whichever nation they see fit, execpt in times of Region greifing.

3rd Amendment
All nations have equal power in deciding issues within the region, regardless of whether they are the delegate or not.

4th Amendment
All nations have the right to declare war on another country.

I am in agreeance with the newly revised Derkan Constitution created by Veni. This gives more equality to the little guys.

That is a good constitution. Has Balmoris finished his revisions yet?

How long would a person serve as delegate under your constitution veni?

Under my constitution, there is not an offical term of office for the delegate. he or she will remain the delegate as long as that person has the most endorsements. that person will not have any additional influence with respect to voting, and therefore does not need to be elected.

I WILL EDIT MY CONSTITUTION WHEN I GET MORE INPUT!!! So far, only about four or five nations have provided SOME input (need more from you guys), but that's out of SEVENTEEN nations in our region. If EVERYONE would put in some input, I would edit my Constitution, but ONLY THEN!!!

Smitty, not trying to be too pushy, but the fact of the matter is that there has been a good deal, if not plenty of input given already. Whether or not you use it is your choice, but i dont think it is fair to everyone in the region that you demand that this vote be delayed after there has been ample opportunity and feedback to make revisions.

Veni, go back through the forums and count the number of suggestions to my Constitution. You will only find about four or five, but if you find more tell me. To me, four or five suggestions is good for a five paragraph essay, but not a Constitution. The fore-fathers took two years to make their Constitution, and even today, revisions are still being made. So speak up and speak out everyone. I welcome more suggestions.

lets finalize the constitution and get on with it we can address issues of amendments as needed we can add or repeal as situations arise but now more the ever this confederacy needs stability and a unified statement of identity. so I think we should set a time and date to vote by and be done with it! all who agree with me send me a telagram so I know wuts up

I do agree that it takes time to make a constitution, but no constitution is gong to be perfect. Just like Balmoris said that the one the U.S. has now is still being ammended, it is the same here; lets vote on a constitution now and we can ammend it as we go. So, I throw my support in making a deadline.

I make a motion to begin a vote for the constitution. In this vote, the choices will be the following:
(1)In favor of the Constitution submitted by Balmoris
(2)In favor of the Constitution and Bill of Rights submitted by Veni Vedi Vici
(3)Not in favor of either

This vote will take place on this forum so as to insure a permanent tally. Vote only once. The current UN delegate, Derkaderkastein, will be locked in power for the duration of the vote. It will be his job to accurately record the votes. Derkaderkastein, please respond if you accept this assignment. This vote will last for 48 hours starting when this motion is both seconded AND the UN delegate accepts his duties.

I second the motion that we adopt a Constitiution now and post the votes on the Regional Messageboard.

I vote (2) for Veni constitution bill of rights

I vote option one(1) obviously, but like I said, had I gotten more input from everyone, mine would've been better:mp5: . (BTW, I counted ONLY 6 or 7 comments altogether :mad: {not sure whether to count Beedle's statement}.)

Please cast your votes on The Regional Messageboard of the Derkan Region. Thanks for your time.

hey guys i know i'm new but both constitutions are good but i like the way veni is fair to all nations and still leaves room to discuss some off the finer points so i vote for Veni's

I vote for (2), Veni Vedi Vici's Constitution and Bill of Rights.

I vote (2) for the constituiton and bill of rights submitted by veni.

option (1) 1 vote
option (2) 4 votes
option (3) 0 votes

The vote will last for 48 hours, starting when you accepted the assignment of tallying the votes, Derkaderkastein. This was all put in the motion to start a vote. Im not sure when you accepted the assignment and voted though, so you tell me when itll end.

sry I missread lol your deadline is good I will delete that post

My vote is for #2.

I vote for option (2)

I dont think I need to do this but I feel the need to just out of formality to tell the results which are really obvious, but for the sake of formalities

votes
option 1 1
option 2 6
option 3 0

since it has been 48 hours if you did not I am sorry but we must close the polls, as you can see Veni's constitution won out with overwhelming support now we may get on to other matters of concern. :)

it is good that we finaly have this constitution, one thing that I think we need to consider is all we have is a ledgislateive branch I really think we need at least one system of checks and ballances, I do understand this would make a major change to the constitution. I do not think we should necissarily enfringe on the 2nd amendment unless that would make it easier to do this, but I think we need an exectutive officer who is seperate but equal to our congress, this executeive officer would not have to be our delagate unless as I stated earlier that would make it easier to recognize, but an executive officer or president would have no vote in congress he would be elected by our members by popular vote unless he does not carry 50% of the vote say if there was a three way tie then just UN members would vote on him if this is still inconclusive then we would have a vote from the four founding members. Founding members are founding members for life unless they resign or if they leave the region. onece the president is elected he will choose a pannel of 3 people who likewise will not vote these three must be reviewed by UN members and approved they will serve as judges to decide the constitutionality of lesser laws on our books this would work just as the US governments checks and ballances on a smaller scale the president gets a veto the congress can override it the judges are appointed by the president approved by the congress and can decide if a law is unconstitutional and if we have dissagreements they are taken to this minisupreme court. the founding members may or may not fill any of the above positions the only thing they really do is decide elections where no canidate has 50% of the vote or more. I konw this is a long proposal that encompasses a LOT of change but I think it would do our goverment a whole lot of good. ;)

it sounds ok, but i'm still a little iffy about the voting policies on the new legislation.:confused:

We don't want one person or one group to have more power than the rest. And we need some one or some group to moderate wars between nations. It makes since that we make these changes. I agree with derkaderkastein. The details will need to be hammered out but I think it is a good idea.

this is good that you want to spread the power around to everybody, but we don't need to spread it to thick in some areas and to thin in others. though we need someone to moderate wars. :fluffle: ' i just like this smilie '

EXECUTIVE RESOLUTION

1.repeal the second amendment

2.add a fifth amendment stating that all must endorse the elected president
but are not limited to this they may endorse additional counties as they see fit.

3.add an article outlineing the duties of a president along with the procdure for electing such an official. elections should be held monthly as that is the time that it takes for a person to be kicked if there is no activity on Nationstates. we can haggle over exact policy in this section of the document
but this official I feel should be able to declare war, but only with congressional approval. conducts UN forgein affairs. the congress will vote whether to approve a UN resolution and our president will make the vote. can be taken out of office early if there is a 2/3 vote to do so but this shouldnt be needed seeing as how it is a short term anyway. canidates can serve as many back to back terms so long as they win elections they can propose legislation in the congress can not vote in the congress though. He can veto any passed law of the congress unless there is a 2/3 majority. President may only kick people as the congress alows given the prvosions for kicking and banning outlined in the constitution. as you can see I heavily base him off our president here in the US I use the US as a model one additional clause would be that the president would moderate wars if waring nations had trouble deciding the stakes or so on. The president himself if forbidden from wars as that would compramise his ability to be impartial in moderating himself. so he can not war on any dukan naitons and no derkans can war on him.


4. add an article establishing a judiciary commity apointed by the president approved by the congress to decide if laws passed are leagal. acording to the amendments of the bill of rights and so on. this branch would have a pannel of 3 jugdes and also can be haggled over exact policy. the Judicial branch also would be similar to the US government model. also in wars the judiciary can overrule a presidents moderating if they see it as unconstitutional as they can with any laws.

so this is a lot more specifiic if you want to make changes just take this and edit it as you would like to see it I will leave it open to your editing opinions for 3 days starting this the 13th of July 2006 ending on the 16th of july at wich point whatever I have to purpose will be open to voting.

so thast what I have if you want to vote on it now say executeive resolution VOTE NOW!!! if enuff people do this I will open to voting sooner. ;)

Wow, I'm not gonna say anything but.......

[\Quote] The UN delegate is the equivalent to this region’s President or Prime Minister. (S)he holds the executive office of the region and holds the power to eject people. This person also enforces rules set up by the region. All members of the region vote upon the office, and when a winner is decided, all members of the region will endorse just that nation for UN delegate. This vote is the only vote where a UN delegate has just one vote. To be nominated, another nation, besides yours, must put forth your nomination. Your nomination must also be second by another nation, or in the event of region population increase, third or fourthed. This office is voted yearly on the (date to be inserted later). All nominations must be in one week before the vote commences. At this time, a list will be placed on the forum of the candidates. There can only be one campaign post at maximum placed on the forum.

For a matter to be passed, it requires a 2/3 majority of votes. UN delegate and public representative will tally these votes.

[Quote]

.....but like I said, I'm not gonna say anything (but by saying nothing aren't I saying something :confused: ,nm). Of course, had someone just said "hey, how about a judiciary committee, that would be a good idea" I could have thrown that in, but again, I'm not saying anything.

On the proposal (on which I WILL say something), I agree with it (I have 1st amendment rights to disagree with the 2nd, lol). Of course, we COULD just go back to the Balmoran Constitution. I can always just repeal the war formula, add freedoms, a judiciary committee, give the right to endorse whoever as long as the properly elected delegate stays in power, maybe allow the general to be elected and allow him/her to be war moderator (and of course, by joining our region you would automatically hand over 60% of your military to regional control, which the general would be in charge of making him invulnerable to any attack while at the same time, the troops in his ranks would not attack their father/mother-land, muahahaha!), and heck, maybe more power to the peeps! (pwned! :D) However, as long as we live under the Venin Constitution, I'll put my vote in for this unless we want to add the 3rd option of the Balmoran Constitution with revisions (my psychiatrist says it's a lost cause...my psychiatrist says it's a lost cause...my psychiatrist says it's a lost cause...:headbang:....wait.....I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING.....CRUD!!!).

Sorry I have not been on here. I have been at church camp.

I agree with the derkaderkastein proposal as written (except for the gramatical errors, lol.)

Balmoris...wtf man, what are you trying to say. :gundge: I like the proposal, but isn't there a way to make it were the president can wage war or have war waged on him?:p

Balmoris, dude, it's ok. I agree with the Derkasteinen idea, except the aforementioned declaring war on the Presidential State, as the Durkans have already stated. And nice grammer, DerkaDerkastein. ;)

The president himself if forbidden from wars as that would compramise his ability to be impartial in moderating himself. so he can not war on any dukan naitons and no derkans can war on him.

Okay I see what I think we can do here is make the president moderator if he is not going to war but if he is involved in a war then the judiciary commity will serve as moderator unless he is at war with a member of the judicary in which if they can not agree on certain conditions of the war the congress will decide what to do about it

if you agree leme know if not well leme know ;)

I like the latest revision, its good to me. :D

I like the revisions.

1.repeal the second amendment

2.add a fifth amendment stating that all must endorse the elected president
but are not limited to this they may endorse additional counties as they see fit.

3.add an article outlineing the duties of a president along with the procdure for electing such an official. elections should be held monthly as that is the time that it takes for a person to be kicked if there is no activity on Nationstates. we can haggle over exact policy in this section of the document
but this official I feel should be able to declare war, but only with congressional approval. conducts UN forgein affairs. the congress will vote whether to approve a UN resolution and our president will make the vote. can be taken out of office early if there is a 2/3 vote to do so but this shouldnt be needed seeing as how it is a short term anyway. canidates can serve as many back to back terms so long as they win elections they can propose legislation in the congress can not vote in the congress though. He can veto any passed law of the congress unless there is a 2/3 majority. President may only kick people as the congress alows given the prvosions for kicking and banning outlined in the constitution. as you can see I heavily base him off our president here in the US I use the US as a model one additional clause would be that the president would moderate wars if waring nations had trouble deciding the stakes or so on. The president is moderator if he is not going to war but if he is involved in a war then the judiciary commity will serve as moderator unless he is at war with a member of the judicary in which if they can not agree on certain conditions of the war the congress will decide what to do about it



4. add an article establishing a judiciary commity apointed by the president approved by the congress to decide if laws passed are leagal. acording to the amendments of the bill of rights and so on. this branch would have a pannel of 3 jugdes and also can be haggled over exact policy. the Judicial branch also would be similar to the US government model. also in wars the judiciary can overrule a presidents moderating if they see it as unconstitutional as they can with any laws.


this is what I have if I have a nomination and a second then voting can begin and from then on 48 hours until we have results and plz excuse any typos, personaly since vini wrote our constitution I would like to let him fix any errors in typing or grammer and the innerworkings of the document itself. if that is okay

Ok, this motion has been nominated, and I second the motion.

I second the motion

I vote in favor of the ammendment.

Durkans, I seconded the motion, so you voted for the motion (technically). So, at this point we have 4 FOR and 0 AGAINST.

:D glad to see things are running

5 in favor 0 against motion for executive resolution passes

underlineing means a part has been repealed.

The Constitution of the Derkan Region

Article I. Rules of Conduct

Section 1. Currently, the main goal of the Derkan region is to overthrow other regions. When that time comes, a Raiding Party leader will be elected through endorsements. All nations participating in the raid must work as a team to get the job done, and must follow the instructions of the raid leader.

Section 2. All nations in the Derkan region must use the Derka Derka mark as their currency. They must also have a Derkanese animal.

Article II. War

Section 1. In times of dispute, countries that can not come to an agreement by means of diplomacy may choose to engage in war. War must be played in one of the following ways:
1.Age of Empires Expansion Trial
2.Act of War Demo
3.Some form of multiplayer chess

Section 2. Battles can be fought for the rights of the vote of another nation. In most cases, 1 battle will decide the outcome of the war. The only time more than one battle will be required is if the vote is of great significance and both parties and another neutral party see fit that more than one engagement is necessary.




Section 3. The consequences of losing a war must be accepted. If a losing nation does not comply with the loss consequences, they will be punished.

Section 4. Other games can be used as substitutes if (a) the games stated above will not work,(b) neither of the combatants have the above stated games,(c) both parties would like to play another game.

Article III. Daily Voting and Operation Procedures

Section 1. All nations have the same power to decide issues within the region. Each nation will get one(1) vote to contribute to the polls, regardless of their regional influence or whether or not they are the regional delegate.

Section 2. Any nation can be admitted to the Derkan region if they agree with our ideals and goals. No vote will be required to admit them. If a nation should break the rules of this region, their actions will be reviewed and consequences will be passed. At least a 51% majority will be required to punish a nation, and a 2/3 majority to expell them from the region.

Section 3. All votes will last for a period of 48 hours.

Section 4. The UN delegate will have executive powers under the Constitution. should be able to declare war, but only with congressional approval. conducts UN forgein affairs. the congress will vote whether to approve a UN resolution and our president will make the vote. can be taken out of office early if there is a 2/3 vote to do so but this shouldnt be needed seeing as how it is a short term anyway. canidates can serve as many back to back terms so long as they win elections they can propose legislation in the congress can not vote in the congress though. He can veto any passed law of the congress unless there is a 2/3 majority. President may only kick people as the congress alows given the prvosions for kicking and banning outlined in the constitution. The president would moderate wars if waring nations had trouble deciding the stakes or so on. The president is moderator if he is not going to war but if he is involved in a war then the judiciary commity will serve as moderator unless he is at war with a member of the judicary in which if they can not agree on certain conditions of the war the congress will decide what to do about it.

Section 5. A judiciary commity apointed by the president approved by the congress to decide if laws passed are leagal. acording to the amendments of the bill of rights and so on. this branch has a pannel of 3 jugdes



Article IV. Expandability

Section 1. These articles of Regional Confederation can be modified if a 2/3 voting majority agrees on a subject. Voting will take place on the region forum only. The vote will last for 48 hours so that all nations will have a chance to vote. It is the UN delegate's job to accurately record the votes. If the delegate is found changing votes, an investigation will ensue. If that person is found guilty, they will be immediately removed from the Derkan region.


The Derkan Region Bill of Rights

1st Amendment
All nations within the Derkan Region have to right to express their opinions freely and without consequence.

2nd Amendment
All Derkan nations have the right to endorse whichever nation they see fit, execpt in times of Region greifing.

3rd Amendment
All nations have equal power in deciding issues within the region, regardless of whether they are the delegate or not.

4th Amendment
All nations have the right to declare war on another country.

5th Amendment
All must endorse the elected president
but are not limited to this they may endorse additional counties as they see fit.

Lets elect a president!

When does the voting start?

Election day is the first of every month just to make it easy and give time to campaign

Zeon has been derkafied. I hope this game will turn out to be fun.

Well I'm finally done with camp and back on here. So lets get this ball rolli'n :p

I vote for Derkaderkastein for the president of The Derkans!

I king of derkaport vote for Derkaderkastein for the president of The Derkans!

Just for recording purposes, I vote for Balmoris for President of the Derkans here in the forum.

Since today is the official voting day, I will restate my vote for derkaderkastein.

The Grand Duchy of Zeon (Side-3) votes for Derkaderkastein in hopes that the Nation of Balmoris will be put in it's place.

- Minerva Sarah Zabi, Duchess of Zeon (Side-3)

PS: Zeon will also supply Derkaderkastein and all their Allies mobile suits and other arms in case it's President loses the vote.

yo, got a few things. first, who are all the new boons in the region? anyway, i say, forget the derkans and join the south. join the south and we might actually region greif. or, you can be boons and screw around with bunches of laws and stuff with smitty and tupps. you choice. lemme know if your interested, no password, just join us. The south will rise again

Join Us!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I vote for derkaderkastein.

These traitors, although they HAVE a point, will hopefully end this useless rebellion against the stability and strength this reigon offers. I also have a feeling that many nations will be tempted to leave the Derkans for the South because of the slow process of our aquiring a constitution. But the election of a president will bring forth I have debated with The Toothless Tennessians about this destabilizing effect that they will cause within the Derkans if he suceeded. This will effectually weaken the Derkans and create 2 smaller and relitively weak reigons. I personally think that the south will be the more effective nation until we can group up to possibly greif the south. Also, I would like to ask to be made a judge in order to try to keep the derkans a soidified reigon. I have cut all ties with Toothless and Veni and will not stand for useless rebellion. I will ignore all messages asking for me to join them. I have removed my endorsements of their nations. I know they will try to use propaganda against us to stop member nations from leaving, all reading must heed my call to stay a strong solidified nation.

3-sided I would like to appoint you to a judge if the congress will have you thank you for your loyalty it doesn't go unnoticed.

WTF! what in the world happend. They do have a point, a lot of poeple have joined this region.

Idiot light and power company accidently cut our internet line, haven't been on in 3 days. In this 3 days, i don't know WTF has happened, but in light of recent events, the People's Army of Bebblebeddle is effectively moving to the South. I pledge my troops to the future of our Region, and I also intend on supporting the South in all that happens.


General Onkca, Minister of Foreign Affairs and CO of
1st Infantry.

we need to DO something about this problem....