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Rugby Union World Cup VI

The Rugby Union World Cup is entering its sixth year of international competition. The Rugby World Cup is a tournament between all nations that sign up, divided into group stages followed by single-elimination playoff matches to decide the eventual winners. Scores are generated by a system developed by me in Notepad. If I were a programmer, I would program it so it wouldn't take so long to make scores (With ranks, it's going to kill me).

I will be hosting this Cup again, unless there are any objections, partly because I don't know if anyone else would want to, partly because I'm the only person who knows how my scorinator works, and partly because I want to test out how the scorinator works with ranks. If anyone else wants to host in part or in full, please post here along with your signup saying so. But really, I'd like to host this one again. It was a lot of fun for me last time, and I want to give the scorinator a try with ranks.

Roleplaying is encouraged in this competition, although as always it only gives you a slight bonus. It will not guarantee victory in any way. RPing can be any In Character comment, whether a press conference, game writeup, roster announcement, interview, or whatever else you can think of.

A few notes:
Rankings from the previous World Cup will be used in the score generation for this one.
For more information on the NS Rugby World Cup, see the Rugby World Cup (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Rugby_World_Cup) entry in NSWiki.
For more information on the rules and positions in Rugby Union, see the Rugby Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union) entry in Wikipedia.
The current list of post-WCV rankings can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10956342&postcount=117).


You must post in this thread to be entered in the Cup. All nations that sign up will be accepted until Saturday, May 20th.


Nations Signed Up: (16 + 2)
Haraki
PopularFreedom
McPsychoville
Milchama
Sarzonia
Starblaydia
McPsychoville
Virginia Nova
Xandabia
Rorysville
East Lithuania
Snake Eaters
Harlesburg
AMW China
Larkinia
Lisburn Mateys
Benlandngdo

Puppet Nations Signed Up: (2)
Marceau State (Rorysville)
Trotsgrad (PopularFreedom)



Rugby World Cup VI Host: Haraki

Greetings,

The nation of PopularFreedom will sign up once again. It has been decided by the Ministry of Athletics that the Camelot Wasps (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Camelot_Wasps) will represent the nation during Rugby World Cup VI.

Sincerely, Roland Miramik
Minister of Athletics

OOC: I would like the opportunity to host or co-host RWC 7 for the record. I have a unique and simple scorinator that I have used in other rugby tourneys and can be operated by anyone as long as they follow instructions.

No hosting bid, but having worked hard on the attacking side of our games, the rugby-playing Psychos will be participating in RWCVI

hey somehow we got a third or fourth place finish, of course we're back again.

Signups updated, and a link to the current rankings included.


PF, how does your scorinator work? Could you post a link to where I could download it to try it out? I'd want to make sure that the ranking system used from my notepad method would still work with about the same effectiveness with your scorinator.

Even though the player behind Sarzonia doesn't have a clue about rugby, the nation wishes to sign up for another go of the Rugby World Cup.

FYI, a host winning their own tournament while scoring their own matches = bad form. Let's try not to have that happen again, shall we?

Starblaydia signs up for their fifth RWC.

That did make me a little suspicious, but there are two schools of thought here - either Haraki was a bit suspect on his scorinating, or Starblaydia is pissed he didn't win. In true Psycho style though, we'll subscribe to them both. That way, no-one gets pissed off too badly.

The Rugby Eagles are ready to play

...either Haraki was a bit suspect on his scorinating, or Starblaydia is pissed he didn't win...

A little from Column A and a little less from Column B, to be sure, though had I been in the other side of the draw and not faced Haraki I'd still be making the point known.

I know that, but I felt it wouldn't be right to force myself to lose a match because I happened to be the host. I did what the numbers said. But at the same time I knew someone would raise the subject. So believe what you want to. And hell, if all else fails you can just have your IC characters blame the referees.

Signups updated.

Signups updated, and a link to the current rankings included.


PF, how does your scorinator work? Could you post a link to where I could download it to try it out? I'd want to make sure that the ranking system used from my notepad method would still work with about the same effectiveness with your scorinator.

OOC:
Link to the scorinator is found at:

www.geocities.com/gamersfury/2006-05-RIT.xls

It is extremely simple but extremely effective however you do require information from those signing up, that information being 10 single digit numbers or a combination of that and other items (depending on what those in the tourney want, whether they want total random luck or skills etc.)

I will explain each of the worksheets below:
-STANDINGS should be self explanatory and though you would need to manually enter who won and who lost, it could be automatically set up to tabulate that if need be
-MAIN is originally the 2nd worksheet. That is where you enter each team and then their 9 single digit selections in this example (assuming they wish random luck for each 10 minute span).
-GD1 stands for GAME DAY 1. Originally all that will be in GD1 is the information on rows 11, 12, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30. From there a person who does not have a red team (in this example) copy and pastes information from row 25-30 randomly into rows 1-9. That same person then copies the information in MAIN for each RED team and places it in the specified place in GD1. So for example they would copy cells H3-H11 in MAIN to A1-A9 in GD1.

Once done all the teams you have all the scores (row 10 in this case is for overtime which I used another system which is more complicated and I am going to ignore explaining here).

The file would also be seperately scored for each BLUE team by someone without a BLUE team in the same manner therefore hopefully ensuring no questions of ethics would come into play.

If you need further clarification on how this works please let me know. I could probably figure a way of putting the rankings in their too if you really want. Finally if you wish for me to cohost RWC 6, let me know. Would only be to grateful to help since I have a ton of information on the potential host ready to go:

Locke Harbour seeking to cohost the RWC (was planning to use this information for RWC 7 cohost request however could do it for RWC 6) (http://www.geocities.com/pf_ssa/apfm-lhcs.html)*

*=Locke Harbour South and Locke Harbour North would be the 'neighbourhoods' within the Locke Harbour City State that would host it, still adding stuff to this website so will have more information on these two 'neighbourhoods' soon (though their are a few pictures of these neighbourhoods if you scroll down plus the stadiums where the matches will be played)

That did make me a little suspicious, but there are two schools of thought here - either Haraki was a bit suspect on his scorinating, or Starblaydia is pissed he didn't win. In true Psycho style though, we'll subscribe to them both. That way, no-one gets pissed off too badly.

IC/OOC: The Starblaydia team has not complained in any fashion and their recent statement is not one of complaining and therefore is likewise not one of the leader being in a 'pissed state'. Starblaydia is raising a point which many of us have thought of. I have known Starblaydia for a while now and I cannot see that he would state what he did for that reason McPsychoville. He stated it not to complain but just to ask that we find some way to ensure that what could be viewed as a conflict of interest would not happen again.

Again I hope you do not feel I am attacking you since earlier in RWC 5 I did come to your defense. I just know the point is a valid observation of Starblaydia's and is not faulting Haraki.

The Xandabian Rugby Union wish to enter a team for the frothcoming world cup and are happy to supply any biographical information & stats on their squad.

Updated for the new entry. PF, much as I like the looks (for ease of use) of your scorinator, I can't see how rankings would factor in and how similar the rankings would be between the two systems (In mine, being 50 points ahead of the other team is as good as it gets.)

I'm seeing about getting an Excel scorinator to work for my system, but I'm not good with Excel so it might take a while.

Updated for the new entry. PF, much as I like the looks (for ease of use) of your scorinator, I can't see how rankings would factor in and how similar the rankings would be between the two systems (In mine, being 50 points ahead of the other team is as good as it gets.)

I'm seeing about getting an Excel scorinator to work for my system, but I'm not good with Excel so it might take a while.

You can apply IF statements to excel meaning that you can make it where in the MAIN worksheet, a select row would not allow team X to score cause team X is not as high as team Y in the rankings (or probably could just rework the excel system to work a different way). Again I was never one for rankings cause it arbitrarily sets someone higher than another based on past efforts which do not necessarily represent current placings. Had those rules applied in RWC V your team would never have had the opportunity to win. Though rankings may be necessary to a small extent they should not become the major reason why a team wins or loses as then you have the same teams winning all the time and that is not fun or fair at all (especially where the individuals participating in something like this have no true say in how their team does).

Furthermore in light of the fact that you now have the highest ranking based on this 'new system' this would put into question the fairness of such a system if you did well in RWC 6. I strongly suggest for fairness of the running of this event you therefore get someone to cohost. If not me then choose another but I strongly suggest you choose quickly. I have an excel system that works well so again I am offering to help and will try and apply your ranking system into it if you want (though it may work differently then it currently does). You up for this? :)

Ever seen the results for the NS Football World Cup? Upsets happen. My ranking system is designed so the difference between rankings is not too extreme until you get into very high differences. I'm working on an excel system that, while not instantly giving you a score-to-score, would just give you a number based on the numbers you input for rankings and RP bonus. You match that number up to the list of tables on the right-hand side of the screen and presto, instant points. Do that a number of times for each team and you have yourself a score.

If I get this finished before the Cup starts, I may ask for you to co-host using this scorinator since it's the same one devised by me for use with the current rankings. I'd rather not switch to a new one that could give radically different results from the ones that should show up with the scorinator as is now. At least I'll ask someone else to score any results for my team after the group stage is over, for absolute fairness.

And I'm not going to go into why rankings are necessary - ask any of the World Cup RPers, even the ones in this thread like Starblaydia or Sarzonia - but using the standard 'four years between cups, three cups count, going down, before rankings disappear' I'll give you a real-world comparison:

The All-Blacks don't suddenly go from being the best team in the world to being the same as everyone else from Cup to Cup. If they stayed out of rugby for twelve years they wouldn't be as good as they were. But the next cup, their skill is very relevant to their skill the cup before.

Ever seen the results for the NS Football World Cup? Upsets happen. My ranking system is designed so the difference between rankings is not too extreme until you get into very high differences. I'm working on an excel system that, while not instantly giving you a score-to-score, would just give you a number based on the numbers you input for rankings and RP bonus. You match that number up to the list of tables on the right-hand side of the screen and presto, instant points. Do that a number of times for each team and you have yourself a score.

If I get this finished before the Cup starts, I may ask for you to co-host using this scorinator since it's the same one devised by me for use with the current rankings. I'd rather not switch to a new one that could give radically different results from the ones that should show up with the scorinator as is now. At least I'll ask someone else to score any results for my team after the group stage is over, for absolute fairness.

And I'm not going to go into why rankings are necessary - ask any of the World Cup RPers, even the ones in this thread like Starblaydia or Sarzonia - but using the standard 'four years between cups, three cups count, going down, before rankings disappear' I'll give you a real-world comparison:

The All-Blacks don't suddenly go from being the best team in the world to being the same as everyone else from Cup to Cup. If they stayed out of rugby for twelve years they wouldn't be as good as they were. But the next cup, their skill is very relevant to their skill the cup before.

-yep seen NS football world cup enough to know that upsets happen
-Artitsa ranked #4 in the rugby world cup and now has a low ranking cause of how he did in rwc 5 however (plus I am sure there are others however just noting one example)
-I did note that rankings are necessary in small effect, however to use them in a simulation where someone has little to no say on how their team does is relatively unfair since the person can do nothing to make their team better (unlike your New Zealand All-Blacks where they can train better to beat them - why England is current RWC champions in real life...).

-I know what others will say cause they use them in the NS football World Cup and I have already expounded upon this there...however new people, who wish to be apart of the tourney and who RP and who lose constantly lose interest. I have one of the higher ratings via your system so I am not saying this for complaining but raising a legit point. If you could somehow make it (which we can) where the individual can alter their events based on strategy (more rucking type team, vs more mauling type team) via some other system (or even random luck at the worse) it makes it more interesting for the people involved. But to say to someone new, 'well yea you are full of enthusiasm but sorry you are new so just hang on a while and you will win eventually while we older types win more often', just sucks and eventually they may just say screw this. We would say their loss, but really it is ours since we further ticked someone off who may have been a great edition to future world cups. Dude I really dug the way you had the tourney running before so to bring in the rankings at such an early age would suck. Maybe bring it in after 3 tourneys or something since it is not fair to some teams that maybe didnt do so well based on random luck and now will have less of a chance verses the higher teams for the next little while.

Rorysville will Return to Action and this time not Falter at the end and end up 1 point out of Qualifing:headbang: so Count Rorysville in for RWCVI

I understand all your arguments, but I'm afraid I'm still going to count rankings for this. They're not too extreme. Yes, some nations are better than other ones, and especially better than brand new ones, but also good roleplaying gives you a definite advantage, and over a Cup or two you can build up a fairly effective ranking. You just need patience. If it works in the regular World Cup, it can work in this one.

And I said it before: All rankings were erased before RWC V, and everyone seemed okay with that. New nations start out at zero, but it only takes one cup to be a lot better than you used to be. I am going to be counting rankings.

Rorysville added.

It has been decided that Snake Eaters will once again try it's luck at the Rugby World Cup. Greetings to all those who have played against us before, and we look forward to another tournament of quality.

i sign up

And I'm not going to go into why rankings are necessary - ask any of the World Cup RPers, even the ones in this thread like Starblaydia or Sarzonia - but using the standard 'four years between cups, three cups count, going down, before rankings disappear' I'll give you a real-world comparison:

The All-Blacks don't suddenly go from being the best team in the world to being the same as everyone else from Cup to Cup... But the next cup, their skill is very relevant to their skill the cup before.

Lucky you didn't bother to look for previous RWC rankings then. Oh wait... :p

I understand all your arguments, but I'm afraid I'm still going to count rankings for this. They're not too extreme. Yes, some nations are better than other ones, and especially better than brand new ones, but also good roleplaying gives you a definite advantage, and over a Cup or two you can build up a fairly effective ranking. You just need patience. If it works in the regular World Cup, it can work in this one.

And I said it before: All rankings were erased before RWC V, and everyone seemed okay with that. New nations start out at zero, but it only takes one cup to be a lot better than you used to be. I am going to be counting rankings.

Rorysville added.

We agree to disagree on this issue obviously, and with the relative silence of most others then there is no sense in considering it further unless others comment so I agree that we go ahead with your proposals unless others voice objections...

With the World Cup, well my last experience was WC26 which apparently was not the best run (though I did hear WC27 was run well so oh well). However the World Cup has flaws with their system (or at least did, not sure about now).

I'm patient, and I honestly do not mind losing, all I care is that things are fair. Which raises my concern that with this new system, since your nation has the best ranking...

Again just making a written note. I trust with this new ranking system that the top teams (yes I realize that includes my nation) will not have too much of any advantage over the bottom ranked teams and that teams that RP will get a bigger advantage than before (and for the RP part I am not writing that so that my nation gets more of an advantage but when I look at Rorysville and how much he RPd vs San Haven and then San Haven moved onwards into the playoffs in RWC 5 while Rorysville didnt I was a bit unhappy about that).

Again just voicing concerns and in the end I relent on the rankings since no one else seems to care on this so oh well, lol.

PS: I still wanna cohost RWC 7 for the record though. :)

To resolve the threat of any bias, I'm going to ask someone else to score my results once we get past groups/qualifying, so no-one can say I got an easy pass to the finals.

And in the end it is just a game based on random numbers. The top team could lose 35-0 to a bottom-ranked team that never RPs.


And yes, I may well be handing over the (co-?)hosting reigns for WC7. But I'll probably find some other rugby tournament to host to keep myself busy.

Sign-ups updated and also, this will probably be my last post in this thread before my little trip. So farewell and I'll see you all when I get back.

...And yes, I may well be handing over the (co-?)hosting reigns for WC7. ...

Actually, you are the one who restarted the rugby world cup which I greatly appreciate so was hoping you would be willing to do RWC 7 as a co-host with me (again I am not trying to take away your power, just like you I would really dig to host the tourney so was hoping we could cohost together)

Anyhow will worry about that later, we got some rugby to play :)

Signs up!

AMW China signs up (although it seems a bit soon for another world cup, has it been four years already? Weren't there other rugby tournaments scheduled?)

Also, is it possible to make the RP bonus a bit larger? Would solve the problem of having non-RPing nations moving into the semis and the whole thread dying down since the RPers are eliminated.

AMW China signs up (although it seems a bit soon for another world cup, has it been four years already? Weren't there other rugby tournaments scheduled?)


World Cups always have a fast turn around if they are run correctly, just look at the Soccer World Cup. Those thing happen so fast in terms of turn around that there have been 28 of them in 3 years.

I'm in this time! And I promise to post more! ;)

I'm in this time! And I promise to post more! ;)

So do I :) (jk maybe) :P

Sign-ups updated. Given the small number of nations signed up, I will leave signups open until Monday at the earliest, with 20 nations being the smallest number I'd be willing to settle for.

Well since we are looking for more nations the State of Marceau puppet of Rorysville will sign up.

Greetings Comrades,

The Trotsgrad National Rugby squad will sign up for this prestigious event.

Sincerely, Trots Bjda
Humble follower of the people




OOC: Trotsgrad is a nation run by the same individual who runs the nation of PopularFreedom. Since we got 16 we could go ahead with 4 groups of 2 or 2 groups of 4.

OOC: If we get an odd number of participants as well feel free to drop Trotsgrad. If you do please note that the nation of Trotsgrad was 'disallowed to participate due to evidence of warcrimes shown by the nation of Trebnak' - I will rp the rest so just leave it at that if you need to drop Trotsgrad. Trebnak is another puppet of mine and that way at least I can get a good roleplay outta it if we need to lower the number of participants by one.

Well since we are looking for more nations the State of Marceau puppet of Rorysville will sign up.
Isn't that a little unfair, or will you be focusing more on Rorysville?

Isn't that a little unfair, or will you be focusing more on Rorysville?

Nah it happens in the World Cup all the time and its a nice way to bump up the numbers for the tournament. There just cannot be more than one puppet and the owner will probably put more focus on the main team than the puppet.

For now, I'll allow it using regular World Cup rules: One puppet per nation, you must have been in the previous Cup (Not just any cup, the one before to prevent absences followed by puppet entry) to enter a puppet. We now have 16.

In other news, I finished the Excel score thing. It works fine, a slight glitch that made rankigns only worth one half what they should have been was noticed and fixed by me. It would come with little instructions at the bottom, so I'll send that off to whoever's making my matches after qualifying (Assuming I qualify). Also, whoever the (my co-?) host is for the next cup, we'll most likely use that scorinator now that it's easy.

And to test it, I made a crapload of scores using domestic teams from my nation. It works fine and runs very quickly to make the scores, as opposed to my previous method.

Signups updated.

The Lisburn Mateys sports council wishes to enter a squad

Greetings Comrades,

The Trotsgrad National Rugby squad will sign up for this prestigious event.

Sincerely, Trots Bjda
Humble follower of the people


THE GREAT CITY STATE OF BORDE, WITHIN THE GREAT NATION OF TREBNAK, DECLARES IT OUTLANDISH THAT A NATION WITH THE WAR CRIMES RECORD THAT TROTSGRAD AND HER FORMER SUPPORTERS UNDER THE ROY BOLSH GOVERNMENT HAVE, ARE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY FOREIGN TOURNAMENT. WE STRONGLY ADVISE AGAINST ALLOWING THIS NATION TO PARTICIPATE!

WE REPRESENT THE GREAT CITY STATE OF BORDE, HEIR TO GREATNESS!

As a participant in the fifth World Cup, we strongly advise against the potential disallowance of Trotsgrad to compete. We would also like to tell Trebnak to stop shouting, as they smell.

I would like to join.

As a participant in the fifth World Cup, we strongly advise against the potential disallowance of Trotsgrad to compete. We would also like to tell Trebnak to stop shouting, as they smell.


rugby players like to shout,, i know, i am one :D

As a participant in the fifth World Cup, we strongly advise against the potential disallowance of Trotsgrad to compete. We would also like to tell Trebnak to stop shouting, as they smell.


There the same personas Popular Freedom;) :D

a) I know, I play myself. Not well, true, as my main function is as a scare tactic - I charge suicidally at the person with the ball, and even if they get rid of it, they still go down.

b) I know. That's why I added the 'because they smell' on the end of it.

Updated. Signups will continue until tomorrow in the hopes of getting 20 signed nations. If not, we will run with four groups of four and four groups of five when signups close tomorrow evening. There are approximately 24 hours remaining as of right now.

Isn't that a little unfair, or will you be focusing more on Rorysville?


Well I suppose,I figured a Puppet was a good way to help out the numbers and of Course #9 Ranked Rorysville will be my main Focus but as you see they(Marceau) will operate a bit on thier own RP wise.

a) I know, I play myself. Not well, true, as my main function is as a scare tactic - I charge suicidally at the person with the ball, and even if they get rid of it, they still go down.


Isn't that a late tackle?

Isn't that a late tackle?
Depends on how long after they get rid of the ball when he hits them.

As a participant in the fifth World Cup, we strongly advise against the potential disallowance of Trotsgrad to compete. We would also like to tell Trebnak to stop shouting, as they smell.

Greetings,

We likewise advise against the potentital disallowance of Trotsgrad to compete.

Sincerely, Roland Miramik
Ministry of Athletics

As a participant in the fifth World Cup, we strongly advise against the potential disallowance of Trotsgrad to compete. We would also like to tell Trebnak to stop shouting, as they smell.

The great nation of Trebnak will not tolerate such insolence and advises any nation who seeks to insult us to ensure they watch their back.

Helmut Heintzman
Great Leader
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OOC: Feel free to RP that your players came down with food poisioning or something if you lose one of your games and blame it on 'Trebnak agents'. If you wish to further this RP into a serious conflict also let me know. :)

rugby players like to shout,, i know, i am one :D

OOC: Interestingly enough I got a penalty in real life for shouting once (no I was not swearing, and no I was not talking to the ref), and another penalty for 'grunting' on a tackle. Two of the dumbest calls I have ever heard of, both in high school, where the referees are usually biased, both against the same team in different years too (different referees though).

a) I know, I play myself. Not well, true, as my main function is as a scare tactic - I charge suicidally at the person with the ball, and even if they get rid of it, they still go down.



Originally Posted by AMW China
Isn't that a late tackle?

Depends on how long after they get rid of the ball when he hits them.



Also depends whether the referee sees it or not. :P

Also depends whether the referee sees it or not. :P
That's such an obvious point, I didn't feel the need to point it out in the first place, lol.

Once in a game, one of my team's centres (when we had advantage) was punching one of their players in the back during a ruck, when they were out in plain sight of the referee, who called it and gave them a penalty rather than us with advantage because it was so blatant. On a lineout a moment later (Their lineout. I was hooker, so I was standing right there and could talk to him) he gave my some advice that if you're going to do that, keep it away from the ref's eyes. Kind of a don't ask, don't tell kind of thing. Best ref I ever had, by the way.

Sign-ups are now closed. We'll go with three groups of four and three groups of five. Please note that one of the puppet nations will be in each group of five.

Also depends whether the referee sees it or not. :P

On my old shirt, the one I grew out of, I have 'If you're going to hit someone late, make sure the referee doesn't see it' sewn on one of the sleeves. A couple of teammates did it as a joke, but I got them to do it again on my newer one. Good times, good times.

Once in a game, one of my team's centres (when we had advantage) was punching one of their players in the back during a ruck, when they were out in plain sight of the referee, who called it and gave them a penalty rather than us with advantage because it was so blatant. On a lineout a moment later (Their lineout. I was hooker, so I was standing right there and could talk to him) he gave my some advice that if you're going to do that, keep it away from the ref's eyes. Kind of a don't ask, don't tell kind of thing. Best ref I ever had, by the way.

Sign-ups are now closed. We'll go with three groups of four and three groups of five. Please note that one of the puppet nations will be in each group of five.

I remember when I helped coached our high school during my first year of university. Our scrumhalf during a scrum was furious (not sure why) with one of their players (a lock) so he fed the ball into the scrum, then sucker punched the lock a few times in the face (while our 8-man picked up the ball and ran with it in the meantime). To this day I wish there was a tape of the game as I still don't know whether the ref missed it or saw it and just didnt care (though I assume the first cause most of the referees we got were horrible).

On my old shirt, the one I grew out of, I have 'If you're going to hit someone late, make sure the referee doesn't see it' sewn on one of the sleeves. A couple of teammates did it as a joke, but I got them to do it again on my newer one. Good times, good times.

My game day t-shirt in high school (besides my jersey) was a shirt that had a big red cross on it with the words, 'GIVE BLOOD, PLAY RUGBY'. I always thought it was funny seeing the reaction of people when they saw me wearing that t-shirt. :)

My game day t-shirt in high school (besides my jersey) was a shirt that had a big red cross on it with the words, 'GIVE BLOOD, PLAY RUGBY'. I always thought it was funny seeing the reaction of people when they saw me wearing that t-shirt. :)

That's so freaking awesome. So much so that I'm getting that written somewhere on my hockey shirt. Thanks for the brutalising ideas, man!

That's so freaking awesome. So much so that I'm getting that written somewhere on my hockey shirt. Thanks for the brutalising ideas, man!

My pleasure. :) I love that motto so much!
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All those interested in rugby by the way may want to check out this thread on the Jolt forums:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484243

It is a debate about which is better, rugby or american football. :)

*Pokes*

Against form? yes. Needed? Not really. Wanted to know if this thing was still going ahead? Oh yes.

You might be looking for this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11066876#post11066876). We're about halfway through group stages already.

Chicheleg would like to enter for our first Rugby World Cup Championship

Sorry, but World Cup VI is already well underway. Once it finishes signups for World Cup VII will begin, at which point you can enter.

fools lands would like to sign up for our first Rugby World Cup as a puppet country of chicheleg

OH, thanks for the link and telling us where to go to start with! It's hard enough to participate in this tournament given my hectic timetable, but not helped by not being told where it starts and when. I know, I know, you said Monday. BUt it's considered good form that if you start a thread via an OOC or sign-up, you provide a link! And aside from the one on the top of page 5, there isn't a single indication to tell me that this thread had started. Can you see why I'm so pissed off already? I mean, come on, you've got to play fair. Now, there's little to no point in my participating now. 4 points from five matches? Please. The only point in posting would be to resign from the tournament and just say that there is no point in playing when the odds are so heavily stacked against you. And thanks to this, my ranking is going to drop even lower than it was, thus making it harder and harder to compete in such tournaments.AMW China has made the same point, and I suspect it was sheer luck that he found this one.



Let me make one thing clear, I still want to play in the next world cup. BUT! Can you tell me, truly, the point in trying now? Like I said, I have only four points from five matches, and that is also because I haven't been able to RP BECAUSE SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL US IT HAD STARTED.

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EDIT: I've calmed down now... well, mostly. But I think you can see my points are valid.

Sorry. I realize that I didn't post a link, but since I did post a 'Sign-ups are now closed. We'll go with three groups of four and three groups of five. Please note that one of the puppet nations will be in each group of five.' and then immediately after that put up an RP thread which has stayed on the first or second page of NS, with new posts, since its creation, I didn't think it was quite as vital. I apologize you didn't know it had started, but I was fairly sure the RPing thread would be easy to spot.

BUt not everyone is able to be on NS all the time. I have very little time as it is, and you should really post a link. It's good form, and you know it.

Just a reminder again for all the RWC 6 RESULTS/SCORES/RPs... ARE HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11016456&postcount=1)

BUt not everyone is able to be on NS all the time. I have very little time as it is, and you should really post a link. It's good form, and you know it.

Yes, I do know it, and I apologize. It was my error. Now can we please just leave it at that? I fucked up, yes. But it's over and done with now.

Yes, I do know it, and I apologize. It was my error. Now can we please just leave it at that? I fucked up, yes. But it's over and done with now.

Agreed.