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Im interested in buying prisoners..
3,000 per prisoner.
Prisoners cannont be of violent nature or will exterminated, at your cost.
Prefer those who do not commit crimes against nature.
Prisoners shall work for me, building my castle.
And will not be returned,
children not permitted..
prefered ages 18-27.
will take older ppl for smaller fee*

Are you suggesting that nations sell off their prisoners for profit and let you use them as slaves to build your castle? What will happen once this castle is complete if they are not to be given back? Will they be treated well? Will they be tortured?

I'm looking forward to the details...

We most strongly condemn the slavery of men... at least of sentient, genetically standard men. Perhaps we could interest you in something different?

Zikodia Bioteks is our lead corporation in the development of what we call ProdClones, a special kind of organic humanoid working unit, created upon the basis of a highly modified human fetus. These units can be produced in large amounts for little cost, and their price-production ratio is impressive.
Now, our ProdClone units can be fitted with various different forms of biomechanical tools, that will greatly increase their effectivity for specific purposes. All you have to do is name the tasks required. As we see this relates to construction, our HT-PC Atlas models should be just what you are looking for: The Atlas model has been created with one main purpose in mind: strength. These units are capable of lifting up to thirty times their own weight, and the various biomechanical tools embeded within their massive humanoid frames serve for a broad range of purposes, including, but not limited to, molecular cutting, high temperature welding, bending, and chemoradioactive works.
The price per unit stands at 10,000 Zecmas (about 23,000 US$), but you should keep in mind that the capabilities of one single Atlas more than surpass those of ten men.

once you're finished with them i will take them off your hands for a "reasonable price" with no questions as to their destination or purpose.

When i finish with your countries "human waste" they shall only work for me for the term in which was originally mandated by thier prosecuter (no less than 3.5 years) . i will happily return ur people to you, with trade skills that will better your country for a meager $4000. I you dont want them back they will continue working in my land as a productive part of my utopia, new and reformed. And no stranger to hard work. Bettering my country and perhaps even my army.
Yes they shall be treated with not only respect but dignity.
Professional ppl with be put in thier respective fields, unless the crime was commited in that field.


My schedule for them is simple:;)
5am showers
530am breakfast/social
615am trade studies
9am work
2pm rest/lunch/personal
6pm work
8pm dinner/social
9pm sleep


sundays off..
must attend ethics class which is one hour. thier picking of the hour
(no this is not religious based)

there will be one day each 50days of work in which they may have visitation.

P.S Its not slavery.. ist social reform!

We are firmly against selling our prisoners for profit against their own will... however we have shown the few prisoners we have of your proposal and 691 of them actually are ready to go willingly... as long as they are returned. Do we have a deal?

When i finish with your countries "human waste" they shall only work for me for the term in which was originally mandated by thier prosecuter (no less than 3.5 years) . i will happily return ur people to you, with trade skills that will better your country for a meager $4000. I you dont want them back they will continue working in my land as a productive part of my utopia, new and reformed. And no stranger to hard work. Bettering my country and perhaps even my army.
Yes they shall be treated with not only respect but dignity.
Professional ppl with be put in thier respective fields, unless the crime was commited in that field.


My schedule for them is simple:;)
5am showers
530am breakfast/social
615am trade studies
9am work
2pm rest/lunch/personal
6pm work
8pm dinner/social
9pm sleep


sundays off..
must attend ethics class which is one hour. thier picking of the hour
(no this is not religious based)

there will be one day each 50days of work in which they may have visitation.


P.S Its not slavery.. ist social reform!
If they wish to buy thier way back thats fine as well, 2 add. years of service.. will give them a one way ticket home.
see.. fair right!

Danteri Government
As Danteri is currently undergoing a brutal civil war, we have a large surpluss of prisoners - how do you feel about using rebel POWs or political dissenters? If you are willing to use them, we could work something out...
This Message Approved by The Office of The Supreme Leader

What is your preferred form of transportation? The prisoners are awaiting departure so they can begin work.

Also we will not send the prisoners anywhere until we recieve payment. You have my promise that you will recieve every last prisoner when we recieve the sum of $2,073,000.

If you have a problem with this, please say so and we will sort the issue out.

I will only take those who have been accused of crimes that arent associated with your war. During wartimes, anyone can be a target. I wish not to be involved in such. I shall however alleviate those who have commited regular crimes not associated with the war.. espionage.. spying etc. I hope that helps make more room for your pow's.:D




Danteri Government
As Danteri is currently undergoing a brutal civil war, we have a large surpluss of prisoners - how do you feel about using rebel POWs or political dissenters? If you are willing to use them, we could work something out...
This Message Approved by The Office of The Supreme Leader

What is your preferred form of transportation? The prisoners are awaiting departure so they can begin work.

Also we will not send the prisoners anywhere until we recieve payment. You have my promise that you will recieve every last prisoner when we recieve the sum of $2,073,000.

If you have a problem with this, please say so and we will sort the issue out.
thats 691 priosoners,
what Ill need is
the male female ratio..
and how many are between the ages req.
above.. etc.

All the prisoners are male. I have their ethnicity on record as well.

81% of the prisoners are within your preferred age limitation.

done money should be arrinving shortly..:)

Pleasure doing business with you.

The Galactic Empire is willing to lend around 400 Male Prisoners and 100 Female Prisoners with 300 Child Offenders .

Secure Encrypted Communique to Dutchess Renee

The Chief Directorate of Corrective Labour Camps and Colonies, Ministry of State Security, due to an overpopulation of a crime-specific camp in the Far North. We would like to ship out a total of one thousand, five hundred and sixty-three prisioners, broken up into the following:

1,052 Males aged 18-29
360 Women aged 30-45
127 Males aged 30-45
73 Males aged 46-55


However, it is requested that they all be shot upon completion of the palace. It would be beneficial to both your nation and our own if they did not survive this task. They've caused disruption before, here, and they might do it there. THey are broken now, so they won't be a problem, but if you free them, I can guarentee nothing.

Please respond on your decision for the deal.

Yuri Golovko
Minister of State Security

Danteri Government
(General Krieger)
We have sixty thousand prisoners in our "Labor Camps" - of these, roughly forty thousand are civilian political dissedents or rebel sympathizers.
Of all forty thousand, 25 thousand are in the correct age category. We eagerly await news on what we can expect in payment.
This Message Approved by The Office of The Supreme Leader

The governments of all nations wishing to engage in the buying and selling of prisoners are hereby informed that, in a special session of the National Assembly convened yesternight, the Anti-Piracy Act of 1953 was expanded to include this form of involuntary servitude in Section Three, Paragraph Seven, Subparagraphs A through E.

Those same governments are reminded that the Anti-Piracy Act provides a definition for all forms of piracy on the high seas and gives the Admiralty the right to capture, try, judge, and carry out sentence on all those engaged in acts of piracy. By Section Three, Paragraphs One through Seven of the aforementioned Act, the transportation of sentient beings against their will on the high seas (hereafter: ‘slaving’) is defined as an act of piracy. Governments are also reminded that the only punishment afforded to all pirates found guilty is to be hanged by the neck until dead and left to rot as an example at the entrance to the Mansmouth Roads.

Finally, governments are hereby informed that, active at once, all ships of the Republic’s Navy have been informed to stop and search all vessels bearing the colors of the The Queendom of Dutchess Renee, The Secularist Kingdom of Maraque, The Disputed Territories of Danteri, The Dominion of Archlite, and The Empire of Mationbuds for a period of six months. Any ship refusing orders to heave-to for inspection will be fired upon. At the end of that time period, the searches will either be stopped or extended, depending on the Admiralty’s assessment of the threat posed by these governments to the freedom of all sentient beings. The Admiralty regrets any inconvenience caused by these measures.

God save the Republic.

Given at the Admiralty House on this the Seventh Day of Júdonolo in the Year IV of the Revolution
Adm. M. Hansfield, Commanding the Fleets of the Republic
Approved: L. Madders, Director of War
..............B. Rinehart, Premier Interim of the Assembly

TO: Iansisle

My government did not sell it's prisoners against their own will. These were willing participants who were informed of what they were getting into and wanted to do this in an effort to escape their prison sentences. They aren't being forced into anything, and they will return to our lands. We haven't sold any of them.

Unfortunately all our Prisoners are already employed in the Imperial Uranium Mines, an extremely Lucrative Sector of our National Economy.

OOC: Iansisle, it was an encrypted transmission, you couldn't have known I sent it, hence, your post has no merit to my nation.

Edit: Your cartoons are awesome. :)

OOC: Iansisle, it was an encrypted transmission, you couldn't have known I sent it, hence, your post has no merit to my nation.

Edit: Your cartoons are awesome. :)

((ooc: Bah, you're right. I fail reading comprehension. =) I'm editing my post to take your nation out of the declaration

And thank you! I'm sure I'll get around to actually, you know, updating them at some point in time. =D))

IC to Maraque:

To whom it may concern,

If that is indeed the case, then your merchant marine has nothing to fear from our inspections. However, as your nation is engaged in dealings with governments that clearly fall under Section Three of the Anti-Piracy Act, they will continue for at least the period of six months. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Good day,

L. Madders
Director of War

The governments of all nations wishing to engage in the buying and selling of prisoners are hereby informed that, in a special session of the National Assembly convened yesternight, the Anti-Piracy Act of 1953 was expanded to include this form of involuntary servitude in Section Three, Paragraph Seven, Subparagraphs A through E.

Those same governments are reminded that the Anti-Piracy Act provides a definition for all forms of piracy on the high seas and gives the Admiralty the right to capture, try, judge, and carry out sentence on all those engaged in acts of piracy. By Section Three, Paragraphs One through Seven of the aforementioned Act, the transportation of sentient beings against their will on the high seas (hereafter: ‘slaving’) is defined as an act of piracy. Governments are also reminded that the only punishment afforded to all pirates found guilty is to be hanged by the neck until dead and left to rot as an example at the entrance to the Mansmouth Roads.

Finally, governments are hereby informed that, active at once, all ships of the Republic’s Navy have been informed to stop and search all vessels bearing the colors of the The Queendom of Dutchess Renee, The Secularist Kingdom of Maraque, The Disputed Territories of Danteri, The Dominion of Archlite, and The Empire of Mationbuds for a period of six months. Any ship refusing orders to heave-to for inspection will be fired upon. At the end of that time period, the searches will either be stopped or extended, depending on the Admiralty’s assessment of the threat posed by these governments to the freedom of all sentient beings. The Admiralty regrets any inconvenience caused by these measures.

God save the Republic.

Given at the Admiralty House on this the Seventh Day of Júdonolo in the Year IV of the Revolution
Adm. M. Hansfield, Commanding the Fleets of the Republic
Approved: L. Madders, Director of War
..............B. Rinehart, Premier Interim of the Assembly

The Galatic Empire of Mationbuds stresses of its sovereign rights and warns that no nation shall infringe on its sovereignity . Hence forth , every unarmed or civillian vessel shall be escorted by at least 2 military vessels to protect their human rights .

We warn that no nation has the right to do spot checks without reason or face the consequences . The 2 Transport Vessels that will be bringing my prisoners to the designated place will be escorted by 4 Victory Class Star Destroyers , 2 Imperial Star Destroyers and 5 Interdictor Cruisers .

The most Sacred and Divine Imperium of Roania today signed a statement of intent as to the destruction/siezure of any ships its naval vessels might find that are involved in this disgusting trade. Slavery is an outrage, and shall not be tolerated for any reason. Especially under the guise of human rights.

Sovereignty can only be drawn so far.

Be on your guard, 'Your Grace'. The nations of the world are unlikely to tolerate your crimes for much longer. This is your first warning.

Let us hope no more will be needed.

Foreign Minister Leopold DePlume
Approved by ArchChancellor Nicholas d'Arquis.
Signed by His Most Divine Illuminated Imperial Majesty Cassander Drakharn

To: Whoever it may concern
From: dcuvell@gov.ahp.mpv
RE: The sale of prisoners to the Queendom of Duchess Renee

Effective immediately, the Ministry of Trade and Commerce is enforcing a boycott on any products which have, at any stage of the creation, been involved with one of the following nations:
The Queendom of Duchess Renee, for gross violations of human rights and the violation of the 1922 Slavery Act, which categorically states that the sale of human beings, regardless of their social standing, is illegal.
The Disputed Territories of Danteri, for the violation of the 1922 Slavery Act and the violation of the McPsychovillian Register of Rights (direct translation from the McPsychovillian name), which states that all human beings have the freedom to protest against the government in power without fear of retribution for these actions alone.
The Social Collectivist Imperium of New Nicksyllvania, for the violation of the McPsychovillian Register of Rights in forcing prisoners to work in uranium mines.
The Empire of Mationbuds, for the violation of the 1922 Slavery Act and for their refusal to comply with inspections.

We understand that the Queendom of Duchess Renee has been protesting against the claim that this scheme is not slavery, preferring to call it 'social reform' instead. However, this claim is obviously flawed in a number of areas:
1) These men and women are being transported, without their consent, to work in another nation. Further, the work in this other nation will not prove to be beneficial to the nation as a whole, but it is solely to slake the ego of the Queen of Duchess Renee by building a castle.
2) The use of the term 'human waste'. While we believe that certain types of criminal will find it nigh-impossible to rehabilitated back into society, and so an indefinite prison sentence is better for them and for society itself, most criminals can become productive members of the community.
3) The inferred use of these prisoners in the Duchess Renee army is the biggest bone of contention within this section, as not only are these men and women enslaved for work, they are then being forced to fight for a nation which is not their own.

Along with the aforementioned boycott, we would also like it to be known that any vehicles, ships or other modes of conveyance found to be associated with any of the aforementioned nations in McPsychovillian territory - this includes both the protectorate of Novistrana and the colony of Peterisle - will be ordered to stop and allow inspectors aboard to verify that said vehicle is not transporting prisoners. If they are found to be so, any personnel aboard these vehicles will be arrested and charged in a McPsychovillian court of law. If the vehicles do not allow themselves to be inspected, they will be fired upon.

We should also like to thank the nations of Iansisle and Roania for their similar stance on this matter. If so many nations are willing to forgo basic human rights for the purposes of making money, we must be ever more grateful towards those who retain their principles.

Yours sincerely,
Daniel Cuvell, Minister for Trade and Commerce
Bryan Danielson, Minister for International Relations
Nelson Erazo, Minister for Defence

Im interested in buying prisoners..
3,000 per prisoner.
Prisoners cannont be of violent nature or will exterminated, at your cost.
Prefer those who do not commit crimes against nature.
Prisoners shall work for me, building my castle.
And will not be returned,
children not permitted..
prefered ages 18-27.
will take older ppl for smaller fee*

We were interested in your offer, but choose to decline since we need the prisoners for large building projects. However, if our prisons become overcrowded, we shall let you know.

Danteri Government
(General Krieger)
We are willing to begin shipping the slaves - I mean "prisoners" as soon as possible - we can escort them part-way with units from our air force, but requst another nation (i.e. - you, Dutchess Renee), to escort our transports into the target harbors.
OOC: Galactic Empire - how the heck are you going to escort every civilian vessel with two military ones? Is your Navy that large? How is that economically possible, no matter how large your nation is?

Let the tranfer begin immediately,
you shal recieve in return 5 nitro glycerine "pills" for every 7 prisoners transfered, in addition, i will give you an additional 20 "pills" for your speedy method of transfer. :)


Danteri Government
(General Krieger)
We are willing to begin shipping the slaves - I mean "prisoners" as soon as possible - we can escort them part-way with units from our air force, but requst another nation (i.e. - you, Dutchess Renee), to escort our transports into the target harbors.
OOC: Galactic Empire - how the heck are you going to escort every civilian vessel with two military ones? Is your Navy that large? How is that economically possible, no matter how large your nation is?

Thank you for your lengthy argument,
While i see your points,
I do consider myself uneffected by your conservative ways.
To argue the idea that we sell human beings is not only popostrous,
but redicklous as well.
Considering they get 5 hours of social/personal time.
They get 3 square meals a day,
3 hours of schooling
and work only 7 hours a day..
and 6 days a week.
thats 42 hours a week..
we have ppl in this work who work more than this and dont even get 5 min. to themselves.
Im not forcing anyone to join me in my plight for utpoia.
In respect to my own morals and ethics,
these people have joined me of thier own free will.
The money that I pay other countries are simply,
for processing fees, transportation, and health screenings.

In response to your 1's,2's, and 3's....

a) These men and women are being transported with thier consent! In addition, my castle unlike your shabby abominations on archetecture will contain not only 6 point sateliete relay that will provide global security. A air and space center for the research of pharmcuticals, and an orphanage which will soon be accepting young children needing a little t.l.c. So no, if you choose not to benifit that is a fault of your own!

b) i used the term "human waste" lightly because clearly the terms in whicn I have set for the prisoners I recieve are for not those of a violent nature.
I want no man who makes it his duty to commit crimes against man. If this were the case why would I waste my time educating them? Im not using these ppl as laborers they will be (designers,tech. support, engineers,etc.) The vision is to give them a new passion in my utopia in the making. So that they shall never want to leave. Why would i treat them badly so I have to spend more money on security than i do in the education and construction. Of my project!

c) As I said before.. they are not being forced to do anything! Is that your fear? That my army will surpass yours? Im not using the prisoners as recruits in my army, but once thier stench is up. I will offer those who have shown exceptional leadership skills, and professionalisim a chance to become part of my elite army. This is not thier only option, as i said before.. they can be bought back by thier host country (yes they will pay for the education they have recieved, in the amount of 4000) If the host country does not want thier country men back, they can also work for an additional 2 years to buy back thier fare to thier home country. Or they will be set up into a new release program (6 months) which is a dormatory enviornment. Where they can come and go as they please, earn a nice wage, and be a productive member of society. After 6 months they can build thier own lives and homes. All release program members will be inplanted with a transmiting device as part of thier program. They do have to remain in my Queendom for the minimal term of 2 years as a productive member. The inplant is designed to keep track of our releases, and causes no damage to the host itself. After 2 years of the release of the reforms the implant will deactivate. The implant itself is 1/3 of a millimeter in silicone. Has been tested for efficiency and effects, and after 2 years of study has none. They can leave my queendom if they wish after 2 years of thier release.. (hopefully they will see the vision and will not want to).
** Id hope that you see that this is not an attempt to inslave the human race, but to give them opprotunities that were not availiable in thier prior profession/job/career. I once again will show u thier schedule.. and tell me.. does that sound like slavery to you! But it hardly makes a difference what you think..


-------------------------- my words from earlier in the thread!



i will happily return ur people to you, with trade skills that will better your country for a meager $4000. I you dont want them back they will continue working in my land as a productive part of my utopia, new and reformed. And no stranger to hard work. Bettering my country and perhaps even my army.
Yes they shall be treated with not only respect but dignity.
Professional ppl with be put in thier respective fields, unless the crime was commited in that field.


My schedule for them is simple:
5am showers
530am breakfast/social
615am trade studies
9am work
(*4/2*add in - snack 11am)
2pm rest/lunch/personal
6pm work
8pm dinner/social
9pm sleep


sundays off..
must attend ethics class which is one hour. thier picking of the hour
(no this is not religious based)

there will be one day each 50days of work in which they may have visitation.



Danteri Government
As Danteri is currently undergoing a brutal civil war, we have a large surpluss of prisoners - how do you feel about using rebel POWs or political dissenters? If you are willing to use them, we could work something out...
This Message Approved by The Office of The Supreme Leader


To: Whoever it may concern
From: dcuvell@gov.ahp.mpv
RE: The sale of prisoners to the Queendom of Duchess Renee

Effective immediately, the Ministry of Trade and Commerce is enforcing a boycott on any products which have, at any stage of the creation, been involved with one of the following nations:
The Queendom of Duchess Renee, for gross violations of human rights and the violation of the 1922 Slavery Act, which categorically states that the sale of human beings, regardless of their social standing, is illegal.
The Disputed Territories of Danteri, for the violation of the 1922 Slavery Act and the violation of the McPsychovillian Register of Rights (direct translation from the McPsychovillian name), which states that all human beings have the freedom to protest against the government in power without fear of retribution for these actions alone.
The Social Collectivist Imperium of New Nicksyllvania, for the violation of the McPsychovillian Register of Rights in forcing prisoners to work in uranium mines.
The Empire of Mationbuds, for the violation of the 1922 Slavery Act and for their refusal to comply with inspections.

We understand that the Queendom of Duchess Renee has been protesting against the claim that this scheme is not slavery, preferring to call it 'social reform' instead. However, this claim is obviously flawed in a number of areas:
1) These men and women are being transported, without their consent, to work in another nation. Further, the work in this other nation will not prove to be beneficial to the nation as a whole, but it is solely to slake the ego of the Queen of Duchess Renee by building a castle.
2) The use of the term 'human waste'. While we believe that certain types of criminal will find it nigh-impossible to rehabilitated back into society, and so an indefinite prison sentence is better for them and for society itself, most criminals can become productive members of the community.
3) The inferred use of these prisoners in the Duchess Renee army is the biggest bone of contention within this section, as not only are these men and women enslaved for work, they are then being forced to fight for a nation which is not their own.

Along with the aforementioned boycott, we would also like it to be known that any vehicles, ships or other modes of conveyance found to be associated with any of the aforementioned nations in McPsychovillian territory - this includes both the protectorate of Novistrana and the colony of Peterisle - will be ordered to stop and allow inspectors aboard to verify that said vehicle is not transporting prisoners. If they are found to be so, any personnel aboard these vehicles will be arrested and charged in a McPsychovillian court of law. If the vehicles do not allow themselves to be inspected, they will be fired upon.

We should also like to thank the nations of Iansisle and Roania for their similar stance on this matter. If so many nations are willing to forgo basic human rights for the purposes of making money, we must be ever more grateful towards those who retain their principles.

Yours sincerely,
Daniel Cuvell, Minister for Trade and Commerce
Bryan Danielson, Minister for International Relations
Nelson Erazo, Minister for Defence

lol.. surely we shall not barter on the high seas.
We prefer speedier methods of transfers..
Im even considering offering jetpacks.. with a pre programmed destination..
for transferrs. :p
Im now calling this program:

"Prisoner exchange/reform program, with options for permanent placement"


The governments of all nations wishing to engage in the buying and selling of prisoners are hereby informed that, in a special session of the National Assembly convened yesternight, the Anti-Piracy Act of 1953 was expanded to include this form of involuntary servitude in Section Three, Paragraph Seven, Subparagraphs A through E.

Those same governments are reminded that the Anti-Piracy Act provides a definition for all forms of piracy on the high seas and gives the Admiralty the right to capture, try, judge, and carry out sentence on all those engaged in acts of piracy. By Section Three, Paragraphs One through Seven of the aforementioned Act, the transportation of sentient beings against their will on the high seas (hereafter: ‘slaving’) is defined as an act of piracy. Governments are also reminded that the only punishment afforded to all pirates found guilty is to be hanged by the neck until dead and left to rot as an example at the entrance to the Mansmouth Roads.

Finally, governments are hereby informed that, active at once, all ships of the Republic’s Navy have been informed to stop and search all vessels bearing the colors of the The Queendom of Dutchess Renee, The Secularist Kingdom of Maraque, The Disputed Territories of Danteri, The Dominion of Archlite, and The Empire of Mationbuds for a period of six months. Any ship refusing orders to heave-to for inspection will be fired upon. At the end of that time period, the searches will either be stopped or extended, depending on the Admiralty’s assessment of the threat posed by these governments to the freedom of all sentient beings. The Admiralty regrets any inconvenience caused by these measures.

God save the Republic.

Given at the Admiralty House on this the Seventh Day of Júdonolo in the Year IV of the Revolution
Adm. M. Hansfield, Commanding the Fleets of the Republic
Approved: L. Madders, Director of War
..............B. Rinehart, Premier Interim of the Assembly

To: Whoever it may concern
From: bdanielson@gov.ahp.mpv
RE: The sale of prisoners to Dutchess Renee

Allow me to reply to your points in a polite way, as this is a courtesy we extend to everyone, regardless of their own manners.

Firstly, aside from Maraque, we cannot recall ever hearing that prisoners from Danteri were consulted before they were shipped to your nation. This means that they obviously could not have given their consent, and so it still counts as slavery. Further, we would advise that you remain at least respectful of our nation - claiming we have "shabby abominations of archetecture" (sic) is the sort of remark that starts wars, and considering your own position at the moment, it is not a smart thing to be saying.

Secondly, what you are saying is that in buying these prisoners' lives, you intend to enlighten them in the ways of your "utopia". This does not sound like social reform in any sense - this sounds more like brainwashing.

Thirdly, we would again like to reiterate the request that you at least remain respectful. Such claims that our objections come out of fear that our armed forces will be "surpassed" by yours are, again, not a good idea.
Furthermore, you make mention of prisoners working an extra two years to buy back their freedom. Their sentences would be finished by the time your projects have been completed, and you forcing them to work an extra two years is simply illegal and immoral.
Then, the notion of a transmitting device is similarly wrong. Since they, again, have no power in deciding whether this device is placed within them, it is similarly illegal.
Once more, we reiterate that comments such as "But it hardly makes a difference what you think..." are designed simply to irritate, and it is not advisable to irritate any further.

Now, to go back to your original speech, more points are flagged up. I have already explained why you are buying prisoners, regardless of your arguments that it is "redicklous". I have also explained that these people are not joining you of your own free will - what will it take for you to realise this? Will it be when the first batch of slaves come walking from the transporters in chains? Will it be when the guards kill the first escapees?

However, you do at least accept that you pay money to other nations. This, at least, is a start.

Bryan Danielson, Minister for International Relations.

OOC: OK, I couldn't say anything within the post because I'm trying to keep it civil, but for crying out loud put some effort into these RPs! Use a spellchecker, for one!

To: Whoever it may concern
From: bdanielson@gov.ahp.mpv
RE: The sale of prisoners to Dutchess Renee

Allow me to reply to your points in a polite way, as this is a courtesy we extend to everyone, regardless of their own manners.

Firstly, aside from Maraque, we cannot recall ever hearing that prisoners from Danteri were consulted before they were shipped to your nation. This means that they obviously could not have given their consent, and so it still counts as slavery. Further, we would advise that you remain at least respectful of our nation - claiming we have "shabby abominations of archetecture" (sic) is the sort of remark that starts wars, and considering your own position at the moment, it is not a smart thing to be saying.

Secondly, what you are saying is that in buying these prisoners' lives, you intend to enlighten them in the ways of your "utopia". This does not sound like social reform in any sense - this sounds more like brainwashing.

Thirdly, we would again like to reiterate the request that you at least remain respectful. Such claims that our objections come out of fear that our armed forces will be "surpassed" by yours are, again, not a good idea.
Furthermore, you make mention of prisoners working an extra two years to buy back their freedom. Their sentences would be finished by the time your projects have been completed, and you forcing them to work an extra two years is simply illegal and immoral.
Then, the notion of a transmitting device is similarly wrong. Since they, again, have no power in deciding whether this device is placed within them, it is similarly illegal.
Once more, we reiterate that comments such as "But it hardly makes a difference what you think..." are designed simply to irritate, and it is not advisable to irritate any further.

Now, to go back to your original speech, more points are flagged up. I have already explained why you are buying prisoners, regardless of your arguments that it is "redicklous". I have also explained that these people are not joining you of your own free will - what will it take for you to realise this? Will it be when the first batch of slaves come walking from the transporters in chains? Will it be when the guards kill the first escapees?

However, you do at least accept that you pay money to other nations. This, at least, is a start.

Bryan Danielson, Minister for International Relations.

OOC: OK, I couldn't say anything within the post because I'm trying to keep it civil, but for crying out loud put some effort into these RPs! Use a spellchecker, for one!


Well...
it is for the reasons abouve in which I..
not you.
Lead my Queendom..
where my ideas and laws are of MY LAND.
So..
do as you may..
I can only tell you once again..
that I only wish to have those who voluntairly wish to join me...
and my "utopia" is not a brainwashed idea...
it is one simply put.. if your grass is green where you are..
why go to the other side of the road?
All prisoners sign the same contract before they enter my facility,
they are fully aware of what they are getting themselves into.
And how else are you to think they will earn the wage to get home?
These individuals are an investment in my country..
I shall not be shortchanged on my investments..
With all the education and training that they got while here,
would it be anything but wise..
that they return the favor by working a megar 2 years in my country?
They are free to go anywhere once that time period is over..
think what youd like..
why not interview the actual transfers?
see what they think..
you cannot speak for people in which have no qualms with the new life that they have.
Your beating a dead horse..
my ppl are professional..
well trained..
educated..
and productive.

Would you like to set up a commitee to monitor the transfer procedures,
to make sure that all transfers are properly versed on the contract..
as well as us having thier full cooperation?
Im happy to let you see what happens in our facility.. to show you that all human rights are not only being preserved..
but they are living a fruitful life.

Though I care not what you say of my country,
I do not want to be seen in the eyes of my peers as a ruthless slave driver.

Danteri Government
(General Krieger)
All right - we can escort them half-way with a pair of carrier-based MiGs. The rest of the way, it's up to you. I expect to be paid in actaly money - not in "pill"s. So, 25 thousand civilian political dissidents and rebel sympathizers are on their way now.
This Message Approved by The Office of The Supreme Leader

Danteri Government
(General Krieger)
We are willing to begin shipping the slaves - I mean "prisoners" as soon as possible - we can escort them part-way with units from our air force, but requst another nation (i.e. - you, Dutchess Renee), to escort our transports into the target harbors.
OOC: Galactic Empire - how the heck are you going to escort every civilian vessel with two military ones? Is your Navy that large? How is that economically possible, no matter how large your nation is?

OOC : Sorry , you do have a point there . I shall ammend it .

IC :

The Galactic Empire shall withdraw its previous statement and order and replace it with a newer one . Every civillian vessel which requests for military escort will automatically be provided with it , if there are valid reasons . Civillian ships carrying important cargo that must not fall into enemy hands will similarly receive COMPULSORY military escort .

Signed ,
Martin Luther , Secretary Dictatorial Office and Grand Adviser

i only have genetically altered and really poor prisinors, also anyone who will work for political rights :D. All prisinors are in good condition except for anyone who is "out of line". 50% of prisinors are available for buying anytime. Any of them who dont comply to being sold will be.... :sniper: or:mp5: dpending on my mood.

OOC: Bob is such a moron, it's hilarious. :)

And galactic empire, for an edit like that, just use the edit function for your posts. THere's no need for your government to ICly make an ass out of yourself. It was an honest mistake, you can fix it easily.
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Open Broadcast to All Nations

First off, the Tsar condemns these Imperialist actions taken by Iansisle and Roania. The nations have a right to impose upon their prisoners a just punishment for their crimes. This is not a slave trade at all. Prisoners thrown in labour camps for their crimes rarely give back to the community. THis, however, provides a chance for the prisoners to give back to the community as a whole, while still serving their time. Isn't that what prison is all about anyways?

The Tsar urges all parties to reconsider their actions and not be too rash in their decisions.

Deo Vindice.

Count Franz von Papen
Foreign Minister to the Tsar
The Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon
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Encrypted Secure Communique to Duchess Renee

It turns out we've got more camp room in three others, some prisoners were cleared out. Cancel our order.

While the Gull Flag Republic wishes nothing more than to avoid an armed confrontation with any slaving power, nonetheless it will enforce the rights of sentient beings. No self-aware creature can be bought and sold like a common commodity, and the Republic’s Navy will punish fully all those attempting to traffic in human beings.

The Republic furthermore reminds all powers currently protesting that it was their own immoral business which caused the decree. One suggestion is to cease and desist in this nefarious trade at once; without the threat of slaving, there would be no need for inspections.

God save the Republic.

Given at #3 Jameston Place on this the Ninth Day of Júdonolo in the Year IV of the Revolution
T. de Fenne, Acting Director of Foreign Affairs.
Approved: B. Rinehart, Premier Interim of the National Assembly

((ooc: heh, thanks. I've been talking to Derek; we're hoping to get Bob started back up pretty soon.))

i also need prisoners to help me build, but only want them for one day a week - those that are opposed to the sunday retraining could work for me instead, perhaps?

We are willing to loan any prisoner to you with the only fee as transportation, given that you release them when their sentence has been completed and we give you notification of their release. Bear in mind that almost all prisoners have some form of Military training given the structure and political climate of our nation. We have some 400,000 men ready for transport (death-row excluded). We consider manual labor as part of their "rehabilitation" and this would give our guards a much needed break to perform their executioner duties.