NationStates Jolt Archive

Bedistan/Fmjphoenix
World Cup 27 Bid Thread

The Bidders:
Bedistan - Bedistan is one of the oldest competitors in the World Cup, having been a participant since World Cup 5, topping it off with a championship in World Cup 21. Also, he has helped host both World Cup 8 and 18, and is a previous WCC president.

Fmjphoenix - Fmjphoenix is a newer competitor, having participated since World Cup 18, but has quickly come up in the ranks, winning 3 U21 World Cup Championships. Although he has no World Cup hosting expierence, he has hosted the BoF23 with Vilita, and hosted AOCAFX.

The Groups
Traditional standards will be in use here. The groups and how many qualifiers from the groups will be determined by the number of nations signed up.
(example: 10 groups of 10 teams for 100 nations, top 3 qualify)

The Scorinator:
The scorination will all be done using NSFootySim that was created by Bedistan. For all the details pertaining NSFootySim, here is a link to the wiki article
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/NSFootySim

The RP Bonus:
The RP Bonus will be determined by two catagories, quality and quantity. Both of those factors will be based off of a 1-5 scale, 1 being low 5 being high. the combination of the two factors will determine the bonus for the RPs.

The Objective:
Well, the obvious number one objective is to crown a champion. But we want to do that in the most absolute fun manor that is possible. This is a game within a game that is extremley fun. Its time to bring the fun back and enjoy some good old fashion football!

Stadium information will be posted later. Questions, comments, leave em here or come on in to IRC.

Who/what determines the qualifty of RPs? Re quantity, what about Spaaming?

Who/what determines the qualifty of RPs?

Well, I suppose we could put it to a vote among everyone competing in the Cup and let them decide, but that would take ages. ;) Seriously, though, the "quality" measure will really be more a measure of effort than anything else. Simply spitting back out what we post in the scores thread isn't going to get you very high on this scale. Details, storylines, IC discussions, that sort of stuff will see you get into the higher levels.

Re quantity, what about Spaaming?

Trust me, none of that will be necessary to get a 5. I don't think Spaaming will incur a penalty, but it won't provide any added benefit.

Stadia—Fmjphoenix

Viking Stadium
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc24-fmj-viking_stadium.png
Location: Vanguard
Capacity: 134 578
Club: Vanguard Eagles/Fmjphoenix Vikings

Valia'taki Mehal
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc24-fmj-valia_taki_mehal.png
Location: Waterloo
Capacity: 66 300
Club: Waterloo United:

Slope Stadium
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc23-fmj-slope_stadium.png
Location: Phonecia
Capacity: 48 000
Club: Sunnyslope FC

el estadio grande de los va'takil'ny
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Location: Alabaster
Capacity: 147 350
Club: Takil Lines

Vallhala Hall
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc24-fmj-vallhala_hall.png
Location: Spraat
Capacity: 157 550
Club: Spraat FC

Vrelt Field
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc23-fmj-vrelt_field.png
Location: Dublin
Capacity: 32 900
Club: RFC Vrelt

Caribunity Stadium
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc23-fmj-caribunity_stadium.png
Location: Caribu
Capacity: 28 800
Club: Caribu FC

Lupe Grounds
http://www.thirdgeek.com/wcstadia/wc23-fmj-lupe_grounds.png
Location: Ariot
Capacity: 27 000
Club: Ariot Lupes

Stadia—Bedistan

Stadium X
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/StadiumX.jpg
Location: Lolestu, Lolestu
Capacity: 94,616
Club: Lolestu CK (Bedistan Premier League)

Banton Road
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/BantonRoad.jpg
Location: Black Oasis, Lincolnshire
Capacity: 71,309
Club: Black Oasis Athletic (Bedistan Football League Second Division)

Cheltenham Lane
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/CheltenhamLane.jpg
Location: New Haverford, Hyatt
Capacity: 63,674
Club: New Haverford Albion (Bedistan Premier League)

Field of Flowers
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/FieldOfFlowers.jpg
Location: Floral, Troy
Capacity: 90,856
Club: Floral FC (Bedistan Football League First Division)

Fillmore National Stadium
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/FillmoreNational.jpg
Location: Sonoma City, Sonoma
Capacity: 144,176
Club: Bedistan national football team
Other Info: Hosts Bedistani Cup final

Metrewalkstadion
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/Metrewalkstadion.jpg
Location: Metrewalk, West Koveria
Capacity: 50,437
Club: FC Metrewalk

Orange Stadium
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/OrangeStadium.jpg
Location: San Diego, Sonoma
Capacity: 81,463
Club: San Diego Iguanas

Porcupine Palace
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gth681k/wc27/PorcupinePalace.jpg
Location: Alexandria, Neshoba
Capacity: 107,800
Club: Alexandria Porcupines

A few questions:

-Will the points-based or the sequential-rank based version of the formula be used?

-By "traditional", can you give us an idea of what would be the largest and smallest groups you would tolerate?

-Taking the information currently available, it would appear that the likely answer to the above would still result in groups larger in size than those proposed by another bid. Disregarding the specifics of either bid, how would you respond to the argument that a smaller group than the ones likely to be seen should this bid here host the cup is more beneficial to weaker nations, since upsets are more likely to be fewer and farther between than they were this time, so fewer fixtures would render the points earned as more valuable to the team's odds of qualifying?

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

-Will the points-based or the sequential-rank based version of the formula be used?

In the interest of consistency with the last few cups, we will be using the points-based version.

-By "traditional", can you give us an idea of what would be the largest and smallest groups you would tolerate?

Anywhere from six to ten, most likely. Also not necessarily an even number - if the number of signups warrants it, we're fine with having 7- or 9-team groups.

-Taking the information currently available, it would appear that the likely answer to the above would still result in groups larger in size than those proposed by another bid. Disregarding the specifics of either bid, how would you respond to the argument that a smaller group than the ones likely to be seen should this bid here host the cup is more beneficial to weaker nations, since upsets are more likely to be fewer and farther between than they were this time, so fewer fixtures would render the points earned as more valuable to the team's odds of qualifying?

In light of the recent hullabaloo made about very low-ranked teams doing abnormally well in World Cup 26 qualifying (which I think wasn't as bad as some made it out to be, but still has some merit), perhaps having more fixtures is not necessarily a bad thing. It helps make things look a little more sane, while not causing complete rigidity. This is why you also won't see me advocating 12-team groups (for example), because the more matches are played, the more likely the highest-ranked teams will always end up on top due to the law of averages. Personally I prefer eight-team groups, as I think they tend to strike a nice balance between both extremes, though as I said earlier it will depend on how many signups we receive.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

You're welcome. :)

OOC: Hmmm, the Fillmore stadium looks rather familiar :)

OOC: Hmmm, the Fillmore stadium looks rather familiar :)
Haven't heard that gag in a...Millennium?

What's your ruling on odd numbered group sizes?

Also not necessarily even - if the number of signups warrants it, we're fine with having 7- or 9-team groups.

There's your answer.

What's your ruling on odd numbered group sizes?

Odd-numbered group sizes are perfectly fine. In the event that we end up with a number of teams that will fit into a setup with odd-sized groups or a setup with even-sized groups, we'll go with the even one first, though.

Bedistan - Bedistan is one of the oldest competitors in the World Cup, having been a participant since World Cup 5, topping it off with a championship in World Cup 21.
Newbie :p

Bedistan - Bedistan is one of the oldest competitors in the World Cup, having been a participant since World Cup 5, topping it off with a championship in World Cup 21.

And a more recent victory in World Cup 26.
Between the two current bids for hosting the 27th World Cup, I'm certainly backing yours. Not only does your opposing bid not measure up to yours, but both of you did very well in World Cup 27 and you both deserve this hosting oppotunity in every way.
Good luck!