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Under 21 World Cup New Skill Point System Discussion Thread of Long Title Length + 1

Total n Utter Insanity
02-02-2006, 16:09
I'm going to post details of the new system I'm developing for U21 for non-IRCers and IRCers when I'm not online to use, any non-CH-like input will be appreciated.
Rejistania
02-02-2006, 16:16
You mean like in the first Track and Field championship, where one could distribute a number of points for several ... gah, here I lack the term... skills required to win? And that depending on how you decide, you are more or less likely to win? Do I understand this correctly?

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Total n Utter Insanity
02-02-2006, 16:21
Sort of.

Currently there are 5 skills you can put skill points into. You gain skill points by how well you did last cup 1 for group stage, 2 for second round, 3 quarters, 4 4th, 5 3rd, 6 2nd and 7 for 1st. Along with a capped number of points for X RPs.
Giant Zucchini
02-02-2006, 16:56
Oo looks interesting :p
Total n Utter Insanity
02-02-2006, 16:58
Interesting or overly complicated I haven't decided yet. I've added in a penalty for sticking all your skill points in one skill to promoted balanced teams and stop uber-Rejising.
Jeruselem
02-02-2006, 17:50
And what would these skills be? :)
Rejistania
02-02-2006, 18:03
Interesting or overly complicated I haven't decided yet. I've added in a penalty for sticking all your skill points in one skill to promoted balanced teams and stop uber-Rejising.

meh! Immer auf die kleinen Dicken! (I will not translate that pouting :) )
Fmjphoenix
02-02-2006, 22:56
meh! Immer auf die kleinen Dicken! (I will not translate that pouting :) )

Ahh yes, but I will translate if for everyone :P

Always on the small thicknesses! (if i am correct)

I think this is pretty interesting though from what I have read so far. How long until you think it will be ready for testing on here?
Liverpool England
03-02-2006, 01:43
No more AOA, ATT, NOR, DEF, AOD and KAM then? :(
PopularFreedom
03-02-2006, 04:07
I'm going to post details of the new system I'm developing for U21 for non-IRCers and IRCers when I'm not online to use, any non-CH-like input will be appreciated.


What does CH stand for?
Fmjphoenix
03-02-2006, 04:18
What does CH stand for?

Most likely Commerce Heights. Just a guess.
Total n Utter Insanity
03-02-2006, 06:10
Most likely Commerce Heights. Just a guess.

We have a winner!

Well I'm writing a group sheet, I'll probably do some testing with that then copy it 8 times add a group drawer and results sheet, make the sorter and the knockout sheet.
Jeruselem
03-02-2006, 12:34
Most likely Commerce Heights. Just a guess.

The nice folks who knocked us out in a play-off during a World Cup!
Total n Utter Insanity
03-02-2006, 13:39
Group sheet is nearly finished, I've made a few changes from the old sheet. That one had a long formula in a cell, this one has it split into lots of cells so I can easily modify it, all the variables have their own cells. To all those writing scorinators in Excel this is a very good idea. I know I've designed so many.
Rejistania
03-02-2006, 13:47
Ahh yes, but I will translate if for everyone :P

Always on the small thicknesses! (if i am correct)


Nope:It's something like: Always against the small and thick ones!
Total n Utter Insanity
03-02-2006, 14:51
Group sheet finished and copied. At this rate I could probably start the next U21 after the WC Finals. Seeing their are no longer ranking numbers or seeds I'm going to remove the 8 seeds in their own group rule and make a truly random draw, should shake things up a bit.
The Islands of Qutar
03-02-2006, 18:06
I'm guessing they'll be a sign up thread
Fmjphoenix
04-02-2006, 00:40
/me frowns as his #1 ranking is taken away

damn it, now i gotta start all over again!!! Oh well, shouldnt take too long :D
Total n Utter Insanity
06-02-2006, 17:01
All 868Kbs of new sheets have been written, just need to test for bugs and balance.
Total n Utter Insanity
06-02-2006, 18:25
As I'm sure some of you are aware the way I generate results has changed little since WC3. You have a defence number and if a random number is higher than it you just let in a goal. This defence/random number check is also known as an "attack". In WC3 I change the game from dice to rankings based on the record in the past 2 cups. The higher your rank the higher your defence number.

The new system uses the same defence number/attack system.

Old U21
Attacks were fixed at 12 and 3 more for extra time.
New U21
Attacks are a variable, effected by Attacking and Defending. Attacking increasing yours and Defending decreasing your opponents.

Old U21
Defence number was constant for all attacks.
New U21
Stamina drain will slowly reduce your defence with each attack. Spending points on Stamina will lower the reduction.

Old U21
Ranking increased your defence number. Well good ranking :)
New U21
Keeping increases your defence number with Shooting decreasing your opponents
Total n Utter Insanity
11-02-2006, 13:11
I'll be running and posting some sim results once signups are full.