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I had an idea today that I want to get feedback on. I was wondering if active FT roleplayers would be interested in the creation and operation of a neutral international humanitarian aid organization. I'm picturing something resembling a Red Crescent/Red Cross of the future, but reliant on nations to operate it rather than individuals and non-denominational.

We're talking pretty large scale here probably; a task force that can render humanitarian assistance (meaning consumables, medical supplies and care, transportation out of harm's way for those who need it and so on) to almost any nation or group that asks for it, from localized earthquakes to planetary disasters, minor skirmishes to all-out wars. This would be, I wish to emphasize, a non-military alliance. This organization would not be employing any heavy firepower, and probably have a general policy of running completely unarmed ships and deploying unarmed personnel.

I haven't really gotten to the point where the concept has real definition, but before I even go to the trouble, would your nation be willing and able to contribute to the construction and operation of such an organization? That includes contribution of funds, ships, supplies and personnel. Also, by "contribute" I don't mean "make a post here saying we contribute [insert something here]," I am looking for people OOC and nations IC that will actually roleplay as this whole thing goes up and when it is called into action. You don't need to be a huge nation to apply, but you'd better have intentions to stick with it OOC. With that, please reply here with relevant questions, comments, or declarations of support/participation.

The Abh Empire will pledge its support or more importantly the state religion will. The Abellican Church along with all its Brothers will surely pledge their support and effort to this task.

We will be willing and able pledge our support to this.

I'll be willing, but I don't have future tech yet. Sorry.

Well, future technology is a requirement. Either that or an acknowledgement of it, which I don't necessarily recommend for unadvanced nations. There are too many idiot imperialists out there who will take the opportunity to crush you. Anyway, if you ever do make the leap and this has gotten up and running (I'm thinking 5-6 people besides me expressing willingness and ability to join before I decide to go forward with it), I hope to see you around.

Well, future technology is a requirement. Either that or an acknowledgement of it, which I don't necessarily recommend for unadvanced nations. There are too many idiot imperialists out there who will take the opportunity to crush you. Anyway, if you ever do make the leap and this has gotten up and running (I'm thinking 5-6 people besides me expressing willingness and ability to join before I decide to go forward with it), I hope to see you around.

Is there anyway to advance my nation to that point then? And can I make an alliance with you too?

Well, this is NationStates. You can do anything you want with your nation. However, this is an improper place to discuss the matter. I suggest that you investigate elsewhere, or that we continue this dialogue through another medium. I wish to refrain straying from the topic at hand here.

SeaQuest will be willing to provide some ships designed as flying hospitals. We have ten spare Hope class medical ships (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10022865&postcount=23) at the moment that we can dontate at this time.

awesome SeaQuest. Just need more members of the GFFA now.

awesome SeaQuest. Just need more members of the GFFA now.
Ask, and ye shall receive. I'd be happy to join, and it's very much in this nation's character. The only problem is time - I can't always be as active as I'd like to. I would participate when I could, though, and I've got some ships designed for general-purpose disaster relief efforts.

I am gratified that this recieved such a positive response. I will attempt to complete a draft charter that you may comment upon tomorrow.

SeaQuest will be willing to provide some ships designed as flying hospitals. We have ten spare Hope class medical ships (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10022865&postcount=23) at the moment that we can dontate at this time.

OOC: Link added to the relevant post in my first attempt at a fact book.

OOC: Sounds like a fun and great idea, though joining it with Nili would be extremely out of character. Good luck with it however.

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Greetings fellow do-gooders. Unfortunately, I won't be able to deliver the charter draft I mentioned tonight. Working out a practical concept and putting it in treaty form is taking a bit more thought and effort than I expected. I will post the document here as soon as the draft is complete. In the meantime new interest posts, as well as further questions and comments, are still welcome, as are comments on the name of this organization. My current working title is the International Aid Cooperative (IAC). Potential members discuss: is this a stupid-ass name? If so, make suggestions! I am wide open to ideas on this point.

Greetings fellow do-gooders. Unfortunately, I won't be able to deliver the charter draft I mentioned tonight. Working out a practical concept and putting it in treaty form is taking a bit more thought and effort than I expected. I will post the document here as soon as the draft is complete. In the meantime new interest posts, as well as further questions and comments, are still welcome, as are comments on the name of this organization. My current working title is the International Aid Cooperative (IAC). Potential members discuss: is this a stupid-ass name? If so, make suggestions! I am wide open to ideas on this point.

Isn't their already an alliance with those inititials?

I'll work up some alternative names and post them. See which ones you like best. This is one thing I'm good at, and that is coming up with a plethera of names. Its not that anything is wrong with the one you choose, just want to see if I can contribute something other than the ships.

Here are a few ideas for the name.

The Healer Star League
The Federation Of Aid Giving Nations
The International Red Cross
The Star League Of International Healers
The Humanitarian Aid Group

See anything you like? Want me to post more choices?

Isn't there already an alliance with those inititials?
Possibly. Not that I'm familiar with. As to your names, the Federation of Aid Giving Nations is okay; at least as good as my idea, but I don't think it's too remarkable. The International Red Cross I will reject outright because of its religious association, something Xanthal would never accept IC and I find personally repelling. The Star League of International Healers, the Humanitarian Aid Group and the Healer Star League are all fine from any neutral perspective, but I'm going to be selfish and say that I don't really like the way they sound. Others are, of course, welcome to tell me I'm wrong. My disapproval is not grounds for dismissal, after all. Anyway, yeah. You're welcome to throw as many names as you like on the table here.

Possibly. Not that I'm familiar with. As to your names, the Federation of Aid Giving Nations is okay; at least as good as my idea, but I don't think it's too remarkable. The International Red Cross I will reject outright because of its religious association, something Xanthal would never accept IC and I find personally repelling. The Star League of International Healers, the Humanitarian Aid Group and the Healer Star League are all fine from any neutral perspective, but I'm going to be selfish and say that I don't really like the way they sound. Others are, of course, welcome to tell me I'm wrong. My disapproval is not grounds for dismissal, after all. Anyway, yeah. You're welcome to throw as many names as you like on the table here.

Got ya. It will help me keep busy during these slow times for the RP's I'm in.

My nation suports this whole heartedly.

You pethetic humans think that making a truce will bring peace? WRONG!

This is because not for long you will all start to envy your neighbours, and for a while it will be small arguments, the trade isnt fast enough, you have greater revenue than I. Then eventually your will turn on each other and all hell will break out in the form of war. Thus the end of mankind.

I was about to destroy your planet with my particle-disrupter cannons and then when I saw this foolish treaty was being made. It made me sick! After much consideration, instead of destroying your planet which would deliver a quick death, a long death does await you by means of national conflict.

Oh and another thing if one of you try and get cocky and say that you could see my fast imperial star destoyer fleet, that was because i had a cloaking device.

Mcneil,
Translator for King of the Geonosians,
Knax

The name shouldn't have international in it since it being FT means that the alliance would be more intergallactic. International generally gives the impression all the members are on earth, after all how many space based alliances have international in them? Most have intergalactic instead.

Intergalactic, however, implies that operations are conducted between galaxies. As national institutions will make up the alliance as sovereign entities, "international" is a proper term whereas "intergalactic" is not necessarily appropriate. However, the final name need not include either.

Intergalactic, however, implies that operations are conducted between galaxies. As national institutions will make up the alliance as sovereign entities, "international" is a proper term whereas "intergalactic" is not necessarily appropriate. However, the final name need not include either.

How about "Universal" or "Interstellar"?

I don't see any reason to reject those terms, but I personally prefer "international."

Following is my first draft of the International Aid Cooperative Agreement. I stress that this is a draft and a proposition and should not be considered effective or official. I submit it here for commentary, suggestions and questions. While I will be releasing the final document and have final say as to its contents, my objective, ideally, is to have as many of you that are interested as possible sign on; so do not hesitate to put in your opinions for consideration.


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==Article 1. Preamble==

This document and all its contents shall be known as the International Aid Cooperative Agreement, IACA or proper translation thereof, hereafter Agreement. Its commission creates the International Aid Cooperative, hereafter IAC.

==Article 2. Mission==

The mission of the IAC is to render effective and timely assistance to sentient beings in need, regardless of affiliation and appearance. This includes the construction and maintenance of infrastructure, personnel and supplies needed for the execution of its mission.

==Article 3. Membership dues==

Section 1.
Any internationally-recognized state or otherwise sovereign party agreeing to be legally bound by the provisions of this Agreement through legal and official approval by that party’s legal representative(s) that informs the IAC Board of its agreement is a Signatory to this Agreement and a Member of the IAC unless rejected by the IAC Board.

Section 2.
All Signatories shall, beginning at the commencement of their Signatory status, annually contribute to the IAC a Membership Fee equal to a set proportion not to exceed one one hundredth of their total income in the year which began two years previous, one year being defined as 365 standard (Earth) days. The Membership Fee of each Signatory shall be assessed by the IAC Board based upon local exchange rates and complete income reports which must be released to it by each Signatory along with its Membership Fee. The IAC Board shall define the amount to be contributed by each Signatory each year no less than six months before payment is due, and shall receive payment of all Membership Fees.

Section 3.
A Signatory’s Membership Fee can, with the agreement of the IAC President and legal representative(s) of the Signatory, be paid in a form other than officially-recognized currency provided that all items provided in place of currency are credited at average international market value and are supplies required by the IAC, as determined by the IAC Board.

Section 4.
A Signatory can, with the agreement of the IAC President and legal representative(s) of the Signatory, contribute currency or items as established in Section 3 of this Article the total value of which is in excess of its Membership Fee which shall be credited in future Membership Fee payments as up to fifty percent of the total Membership Fee due each year until the advance contribution is fully credited.

==Article 4. Organization==

Section 1.
The IAC shall be governed by the IAC Board and the IAC President, which shall make decisions for and direct the assets of the IAC as outlined in this Article.

Section 2.
The IAC Board’s membership shall consist of one representative from each Signatory, as appointed by each Signatory’s legal representative(s). These IAC Board Members shall each have one vote on all decisions the IAC Board is called upon to make. A majority of IAC Board Members, unless otherwise noted, shall be sufficient to decide an issue.

Section 3.
The IAC President shall be elected by the IAC Board, which may also remove it. The IAC President shall be tasked with carrying out the will of the IAC Board and directing the assets of the IAC. The IAC President shall be empowered to delegate the responsibilities of its office to other parties as determined by the IAC Board.

Section 4.
The IAC Board may eject an IAC Board Member with a majority of members who cast an up or down vote in a one-week (real time) frame. If a replacement member is not selected by a Signatory’s legal representative(s) within one week (real time) of its IAC Board Member’s ejection, that Signatory’s Signatory status shall be terminated.

Section 5.
Any Signatory which does not pay its Membership Fee in accordance with Article 3 shall immediately have its Signatory status terminated and its IAC Board Member ejected.

Section 6.
The IAC Board and the IAC President shall meet at the IAC Operations Center, which shall be located in the Mirfak System.

Section 7.
No authority within or without the IAC shall have the power to amend any part of this Agreement.

==Article 5. Standing Rules==

Section 1.
The IAC shall neither possess nor run vehicles equipped with offensive weaponry.

Section 2.
Neither the IAC nor its assets shall under any circumstances engage in violent conflict with any party.

Section 3.
Neither the IAC Board nor the IAC President shall profess or act in a manner suggesting a preference in any outside diplomatic or military dispute.

Section 4.
Personnel in the employ of the IAC, regardless of the capacity in which they serve, shall not carry weapons or use violent force.

Section 5.
The IAC shall not deploy or otherwise interfere in locations from which it is barred by the legal authority of the recognized sovereign entities presiding over those locations.

Section 6.
The IAC shall not deploy personnel in any circumstance where those personnel are placed at undue risk to life or liberty as determined by the IAC Board or, in absence of such determination, the IAC President.

Section 7.
IAC resources shall be distributed according to the needs of their recipients, with no unfair discriminatory preference given.

Section 8.
Unless requested by a sovereign state and approved by the IAC Board, the IAC shall not devote resources to assist beings who are impoverished as a direct result of societal conditions.

OOC: I don't have time to respond to the charter now. However, I'd be very interested in joining such an alliance, so long as my size (very small) and RP experience (extremely limited) weren't necessary preconditions for exclusion.

This is not an alliance. It is a relief agreement between any nations that wish to join where they will go out and aid those in need. This has no military significance for the most part. Think of it like a giant....hospital/charity. Not the best description just trying to stress that this is not an alliance and you need not be alligned with any member to join. In any case you are welcomed to join. It doesn't matter how large your nation is and you need practice for your RPs somewhere so you can start with us if you would like.

Now as far as the draft: I like it and only have a couple questions.
-Article 5 section 2: What would be violent actions? I mean are you depriving the members the right to defend themselves?

Following is my first draft of the International Aid Cooperative Agreement. I stress that this is a draft and a proposition and should not be considered effective or official. I submit it here for commentary, suggestions and questions. While I will be releasing the final document and have final say as to its contents, my objective, ideally, is to have as many of you that are interested as possible sign on; so do not hesitate to put in your opinions for consideration.


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==Article 1. Preamble==

This document and all its contents shall be known as the International Aid Cooperative Agreement, IACA or proper translation thereof, hereafter Agreement. Its commission creates the International Aid Cooperative, hereafter IAC.

==Article 2. Mission==

The mission of the IAC is to render effective and timely assistance to sentient beings in need, regardless of affiliation and appearance. This includes the construction and maintenance of infrastructure, personnel and supplies needed for the execution of its mission.

==Article 3. Membership dues==

Section 1.
Any internationally-recognized state or otherwise sovereign party agreeing to be legally bound by the provisions of this Agreement through legal and official approval by that party’s legal representative(s) that informs the IAC Board of its agreement is a Signatory to this Agreement and a Member of the IAC unless rejected by the IAC Board.

Section 2.
All Signatories shall, beginning at the commencement of their Signatory status, annually contribute to the IAC a Membership Fee equal to a set proportion not to exceed one one hundredth of their total income in the year which began two years previous, one year being defined as 365 standard (Earth) days. The Membership Fee of each Signatory shall be assessed by the IAC Board based upon local exchange rates and complete income reports which must be released to it by each Signatory along with its Membership Fee. The IAC Board shall define the amount to be contributed by each Signatory each year no less than six months before payment is due, and shall receive payment of all Membership Fees.

Section 3.
A Signatory’s Membership Fee can, with the agreement of the IAC President and legal representative(s) of the Signatory, be paid in a form other than officially-recognized currency provided that all items provided in place of currency are credited at average international market value and are supplies required by the IAC, as determined by the IAC Board.

Section 4.
A Signatory can, with the agreement of the IAC President and legal representative(s) of the Signatory, contribute currency or items as established in Section 3 of this Article the total value of which is in excess of its Membership Fee which shall be credited in future Membership Fee payments as up to fifty percent of the total Membership Fee due each year until the advance contribution is fully credited.

==Article 4. Organization==

Section 1.
The IAC shall be governed by the IAC Board and the IAC President, which shall make decisions for and direct the assets of the IAC as outlined in this Article.

Section 2.
The IAC Board’s membership shall consist of one representative from each Signatory, as appointed by each Signatory’s legal representative(s). These IAC Board Members shall each have one vote on all decisions the IAC Board is called upon to make. A majority of IAC Board Members, unless otherwise noted, shall be sufficient to decide an issue.

Section 3.
The IAC President shall be elected by the IAC Board, which may also remove it. The IAC President shall be tasked with carrying out the will of the IAC Board and directing the assets of the IAC. The IAC President shall be empowered to delegate the responsibilities of its office to other parties as determined by the IAC Board.

Section 4.
The IAC Board may eject an IAC Board Member with a majority of members who cast an up or down vote in a one-week (real time) frame. If a replacement member is not selected by a Signatory’s legal representative(s) within one week (real time) of its IAC Board Member’s ejection, that Signatory’s Signatory status shall be terminated.

Section 5.
Any Signatory which does not pay its Membership Fee in accordance with Article 3 shall immediately have its Signatory status terminated and its IAC Board Member ejected.

Section 6.
The IAC Board and the IAC President shall meet at the IAC Operations Center, which shall be located in the Mirfak System.

Section 7.
No authority within or without the IAC shall have the power to amend any part of this Agreement.

==Article 5. Standing Rules==

Section 1.
The IAC shall neither possess nor run vehicles equipped with offensive weaponry.

Section 2.
Neither the IAC nor its assets shall under any circumstances engage in violent conflict with any party.

Section 3.
Neither the IAC Board nor the IAC President shall profess or act in a manner suggesting a preference in any outside diplomatic or military dispute.

Section 4.
Personnel in the employ of the IAC, regardless of the capacity in which they serve, shall not carry weapons or use violent force.

Section 5.
The IAC shall not deploy or otherwise interfere in locations from which it is barred by the legal authority of the recognized sovereign entities presiding over those locations.

Section 6.
The IAC shall not deploy personnel in any circumstance where those personnel are placed at undue risk to life or liberty as determined by the IAC Board or, in absence of such determination, the IAC President.

Section 7.
IAC resources shall be distributed according to the needs of their recipients, with no unfair discriminatory preference given.

Section 8.
Unless requested by a sovereign state and approved by the IAC Board, the IAC shall not devote resources to assist beings who are impoverished as a direct result of societal conditions.

Sounds okay, to me.

Suggestion: How about all members chip in to build a giant, mult-level hospital station that can treat any number of different species?

Suggestion: How about all members chip in to build a giant, mult-level hospital station that can treat any number of different species?
Good idea, but that's not really a charter issue; that's something the IAC Board would have to vote on.

-Article 5 section 2: What would be violent actions? I mean are you depriving the members the right to defend themselves?
Violence in the general sense. I didn't want to specify it too explicitly; I'd rather leave grey areas (if there are any) up to the Board. Article 5 is not meant to apply to Signatories, only the IAC itself. However, I agree that there needs to be more distance, something that I hope will be fixed with my latest draft.


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Key changes:
-Term "IAC Member" changed to "IAC Patron"
-Term "Membership Fee" changed to "Patronage Fee"
-Addition of 3.2 clarifying exemption of Signatories from general rules
-Addition of 4.5 defining term "IAC Personnel" and IAC Personnel right to terminate IAC employment
-Addition of 5.1 binding all IAC Personnel to terms of Article 5


==Article 1. Preamble==

This document and all its contents shall be known as the International Aid Cooperative Agreement, IACA or proper translation thereof, hereafter Agreement. Its commission creates the International Aid Cooperative, hereafter IAC.

==Article 2. Mission==

The mission of the IAC is to render effective and timely assistance to sentient beings in need, regardless of affiliation and appearance. This includes the construction and maintenance of infrastructure, personnel and supplies needed for the execution of its mission.

==Article 3. Signatory definitions and dues==

Section 1.
Any internationally-recognized state or otherwise sovereign party agreeing to be legally bound by the provisions of this Agreement through legal and official approval by that party’s legal representative(s) that informs the IAC Board of its agreement is a Signatory to this Agreement and a Patron of the IAC unless rejected by the IAC Board.

Section 2.
The IAC Patron status granted to Signatories of this Agreement does not imply in any way that Signatories are bound to the terms of this Agreement in any way beyond where explicitly mentioned.

Section 3.
All Signatories shall, beginning at the commencement of their Signatory status, annually contribute to the IAC a Patronage Fee equal to a set proportion not to exceed one one hundredth of their total income in the year which began two years previous, one year being defined as 365 standard (Earth) days. The Patronage Fee of each Signatory shall be assessed by the IAC Board based upon local exchange rates and complete income reports which must be released to it by each Signatory along with its Patronage Fee. The IAC Board shall define the amount to be contributed by each Signatory each year no less than six months before payment is due, and shall receive payment of all Patronage Fees.

Section 4.
A Signatory’s Patronage Fee can, with the agreement of the IAC President and legal representative(s) of the Signatory, be paid in a form other than officially-recognized currency provided that all items provided in place of currency are credited at average international market value and are supplies required by the IAC, as determined by the IAC Board.

Section 5.
A Signatory can, with the agreement of the IAC President and legal representative(s) of the Signatory, contribute currency or items as established in Section 3 of this Article the total value of which is in excess of its Patronage Fee which shall be credited in future Patronage Fee payments as up to fifty percent of the total Patronage Fee due each year until the advance contribution is fully credited.

==Article 4. Organization==

Section 1.
The IAC shall be governed by the IAC Board and the IAC President, which shall make decisions for and direct the assets of the IAC as outlined in this Article.

Section 2.
The IAC Board’s membership shall consist of one representative from each Signatory, as appointed by each Signatory’s legal representative(s). These IAC Board Members shall each have one vote on all decisions the IAC Board is called upon to make. A majority of IAC Board Members, unless otherwise noted, shall be sufficient to decide an issue.

Section 3.
The IAC President shall be elected by the IAC Board, which may also remove it. The IAC President shall be tasked with carrying out the will of the IAC Board and directing the assets of the IAC. The IAC President shall be empowered to delegate the responsibilities of its office to other parties as determined by the IAC Board.

Section 4.
The IAC Board may eject an IAC Board Member with a majority of members who cast an up or down vote in a one-week (real time) frame. If a replacement member is not selected by a Signatory’s legal representative(s) within one week (real time) of its IAC Board Member’s ejection, that Signatory’s Signatory status shall be terminated.

Section 5.
All sentient beings that are employed by the IAC are, while in that employ, IAC Personnel and bound to the directives of the IAC Board and the IAC President as well as the terms of this agreement. IAC Personnel can leave the employ of the IAC at any time.

Section 6.
Any Signatory which does not pay its Patronage Fee in accordance with Article 3 of this Agreement shall immediately have its Signatory status terminated and its IAC Board Member ejected.

Section 7.
The IAC Board and the IAC President shall meet at the IAC Operations Center, which shall be located in the Mirfak System.

Section 8.
No authority within or without the IAC shall have the power to amend any part of this Agreement.

==Article 5. Standing Rules==

Section 1.
In directing the IAC at large, this Article also demands individual compliance of all IAC Personnel, including the IAC Board and the IAC President, with its terms. Accordingly, no IAC Personnel shall act in violation of any Section of this Article, nor shall the IAC Board or the IAC President direct them to act in violation.

Section 2.
The IAC shall neither operate nor possess weaponry or other devices intended solely to cause harm.

Section 3.
The IAC shall under no circumstances engage in violent conflict with any party.

Section 4.
The IAC shall not profess or act in a manner suggesting a preference regarding any outside diplomatic or military dispute.

Section 5.
The IAC shall not interfere in locations from which it is barred by the legal authority of the recognized sovereign entities presiding over those locations.

Section 6.
The IAC shall not be deployed in any circumstance where IAC Personnel will be placed at undue risk to life, liberty or safety as determined by the IAC Board or, in absence of such determination, the IAC President.

Section 7.
IAC resources shall be distributed according to the needs of their recipients, with no unfair discriminatory preference given.

Section 8.
Unless requested by a sovereign state and approved by the IAC Board, the IAC shall not devote resources to assist beings who are impoverished as a direct result of pre-existing economic, political or other societal conditions.

Also, please refrain from quoting the entire document in your replies.

I like the charter, I have no problems with it.

I will keep this up for another two days for further comments and suggestions. If nobody comes forward with anything groundbreaking before that time is up, I'll start a recruitment thread using my latest draft as a charter and link it on this thread.

Final bump for suggestions on the charter.

I think it's pretty good as it stands.

I don't see any particular problems with it.

The International Aid Consortium has been founded, complete with final charter. For further information and to join, visit the following thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=458048