NationStates Jolt Archive

Welcome.

This is the home of the Donald Bradman Trophy.

I'll work out a format, we'll be looking for 12 teams to start with, and we'll expand to 16 if interest is high.

If we can get names down in here please, the roster system will come along in good time.

So just signup, and put something witty if you want to :p

Gruenberg. We're willing to join, and will host if needs be.

A Paradise Cove is in, as well as Shearwaters
Thanks

and the sport is?

and the sport is?

The Donald Bradman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bradman) Cup? Scandalous! Infidel!

Cricket. I agree, he actually should have put that. Oh well.

The Donald Bradman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bradman) Cup? Scandalous! Infidel!

Cricket. I agree, he actually should have put that. Oh well.

I'm a dumb american who is unskilled in his liking of cricket but i'll sign up anyway using a bunch of baseball players

Excellent! More converts to the cause. (You'll need two extra players, by the way.)

The Archregimancy would like to enter a team of cricketing Orthodox monks into the Donald Bradman cup. For while Mr. Bradman may not have been Orthodox, he was certainly a damn fine cricketer.

We can quite assure you that we will not field unorthodox spinners.


Milchama may find themselves slightly disadvantaged if they attempt to field a baseball team in a cricket tournament. The Monastic Cricket Federation would like to recommend the following sources to learn more about the rules of the game:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/cricket/rules/default.stm

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/cricket/explanation.htm


Et pour les pays francophones:
http://www.eleves.ens.fr/home/mlnguyen/divers/cricket/rules.html

Teams signed up so far:

Gruenberg
A Paradise Cove
Shearwaters
Milchama
The Archregimancy

Looking for a few more please :)

Title edited to show what you wanted to change.

Cheers, Mr. Euroslavia.

Thanks Euro.

There's not many nations interested in cricket, so maybe we should reduce the number of entrants to 8 or something, so we don't have to wait for ages?

There's not many nations interested in cricket, so maybe we should reduce the number of entrants to 8 or something

Judging by the InterNationStates_Cricket_Council (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/InterNationStates_Cricket_Council) article on the wiki, you'll be very lucky to get 8, as that was only how many we had last time Cockbill Street started one up.

And no, this isn't a sign-up, as I don't have enough time to RP in this too.

I have a plan for 6 teams, which should work - quite - well.

If we don't get a team shortly, I'll go in :)

Judging by the InterNationStates_Cricket_Council (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/InterNationStates_Cricket_Council) article on the wiki, you'll be very lucky to get 8, as that was only how many we had last time Cockbill Street started one up.

And no, this isn't a sign-up, as I don't have enough time to RP in this too.

Ok, well maybe we should go for 6 then.

Can we ask how you scorinated it? We still haven't picked a definitive method.

I have a plan for 6 teams, which should work - quite - well.

If we don't get a team shortly, I'll go in :)

If you can get one more team to enter, I'll send a team as well, making it 8.

I think that Cockbill Street (Hakon) used a cricket simulator, not the same one as I'm using I don't think.

Both are fairly good though, I just find the one I use (SR Cricket Simulator) more user friendly than his (VC4, i think).

Roster system coming soon.

I think that Cockbill Street (Hakon) used a cricket simulator, not the same one as I'm using I don't think.

Both are fairly good though, I just find the one I use (SR Cricket Simulator) more user friendly than his (VC4, i think).

Roster system coming soon.

Yes, that'd work fine. If Euro joins, can anyone think of an eighth?

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Ok. Please don't type like that in this thread: it's a little annoying. Your cricket cup produced some interesting entrants, and some interesting results. Think you'd want to enter (one)?

I'm sorry, you will have to speak English, it's my only fluent language, sorry if that's useless for you

Roster System

Base Points: 50

You have 50 points to be spread between the following 8 catagories. The first 4 may be allocated up to 10 points, the following 4 only may be given up to 5.

Up to 10

Middle Order
All Rounders
Fast Bowlers
Spin Bowlers

Up to 5

Openers
Wicket Keeper
Lower Order
Partime Bowlers

The totals of all the catagories MUST be 50.

Once you have allocated your 50 points move onto Section 2.

Section Points

For this section you will be using the points you allocated previously :)

OPENERS

You will have 2 opening batsmen.

For every point you allocated to Openers in the previous section, you will get 20 runs here, to be shared between the 2 batsmen.

Example: 4 points would give you 80 runs, so you could give both batsmen 40.

Maximum per Player: 55
Minimum per Player: 25

MIDDLE ORDER

You will have 3,4 or 5 Middle Order batsmen (you can choose, but remember, you are only allowed 11 players in your team).

For every point you allocated to the Middle Order in the previous section, you will get 20 runs here, to be shared between the batsmen.

Example: 8 points would give you 160 runs, so you could give 4 batsman an average of 40.

Maximum per Player : 60
Minimum per Player: 25

ALL ROUNDERS

You will have 0,1 or 2 All Rounders. If you don't want to have any All Rounders, allocate 0 points to All Rounders, and skip the section.

For every point you allocated to All Rounders in the previous section, you will get 5 runs here OR 5 runs off the bowling average.

All the All Rounders start with a Bowling Average of 40, and you remove runs from that, the opposite of batsmen, where you just build up runs.

Example: For 8 points, you could have a bowling average of 25 and a batting average of 25, or a bowling average of 30, and a batting average of 30.

Max Batting: 50
Best Bowling: 20
Min Batting: 25
Worst Bowling: 40

WICKET KEEPING

You will have 1 Wicket Keeper.

For every point you allocated to Wicket Keeper in the previous section, you will get 10 runs here, to be given to the 'keeper.

Example: For 3 points you could have a batting average of 30.

Maximum: 50
Minimum: 10

LOWER ORDER

The remaing spots on your team of 11 will be Lower Order Batsmen.

For every point you allocated to the Lower in the previous section, you will get 10 runs here, to be shared between the Lower Order Batsmen.

Example: For 4 points, you could have four averages of 10.

Maximum: 35
Minimum: 1

Bowling

For the next 2 categories, the players will have the Lower Order batting stats.

FAST BOWLERS

You will have 1,2,3 or 4 Fast Bowlers.

For Every Point you gave to Fast Bowlers, you will be able to take 5 runs off the bowling averages of the bowlers, starting at 40.

Example: For 8 points you would be able to have 4 bowlers averaging 30.

Best: 20
Worst: 40

SPINNERS

You will have 0,1,2 or 3 Spinners

For Every Point you gave to Fast Bowlers, you will be able to take 5 runs off the bowling averages of the bowlers, starting at 50.

Example: For 8 points you would be able to have 1 bowler averaging 20. And 1 bowler averaging 40.

Best: 20
Worst: 40


PARTTIME BOWLERS

You will have 0,1,2,3 or 4 parttime bowlers.

They will be the bowling stats of Middle Order batsmen or Openers.

For Every Point you gave to Part Time Bowlers you get to take 10 runs off the averages of the bowlers starting at 80.

Example: For 4 points, you could have 1 bowler averaging 50, and one averaging 70.

Best:40
Worst: 80

ROSTER FORM


Openers
AA Smith 40 No Bowling
BB Smith 40 No Bowling
Middle Order Batsmen
CC Smith 40 No Bowling
DD Smith 40 50
EE Smith 40 70
All Rounder
FF Smith 30 30
Wicket Keeper
GG Smith 30 No Bowling
Lower Order
HH Smith 10 30 Fast
II Smith 10 20 Spin
JJ Smith 10 30 Fast
KK Smith 10 30 Fast


Please don't give names : Bob, but initals instead BL.

Also name a captain.

The Matches will be OD matches.

:)

Probably a silly question...can we have decimals? E.g. 3.2 points?

(I assume not.)

Ok, i will submit my players in the next few days...

Don't really understand this. I'm a cricket fan who follows Australia, know a few players and their positions. And who won and etc. Dont really know that much more.

Could someone "start" me off with a team?
It would be most appreciated...
Thanks

OOC: the request that we use traditional cricketing roster format (ABC Bloggs) for naming our players, while understandable, is going to cause me an RP problem. As Orthodox monks, my players don't go by their surname, but solely by their monastic name. So I would ideally want to enter a team along the lines of (this is not yet an official roster)

Openers
Fr. Polycarp
Fr. John
Middle Order Batsmen
Fr. Nicholas
Fr. Seraphim
Fr. Pavel
All Rounder
Fr. Constantine
Wicket Keeper
Fr. Basil
Lower Order
Fr. Theophilus
Fr. Photius
Fr. Peter
Fr. Innocent

I know this is slightly out of the ordinary, but it fits my team better - will this be OK?

Openers
AA Smith 40 No Bowling
BB Smith 40 No Bowling
Middle Order Batsmen
CC Smith 40 No Bowling
DD Smith 40 50
EE Smith 40 70
All Rounder
FF Smith 30 30
Wicket Keeper
GG Smith 30 No Bowling
Lower Order
HH Smith 10 30 Fast
II Smith 10 20 Spin
JJ Smith 10 30 Fast
KK Smith 10 30 Fast

Well, what about his suggested team. Here, we see: all solid, but no outstanding, batsmen; a useful all-rounder; a good batsman/wicket-keeper; 3 good fast bowlers and one very good spinner.

This is in fact quite a bit like the Aussie team.

What you need to do, I think, is decide on a balance. If you're not sure how, post some vague ideas - e.g. do you want a very strong batting team and aren't worried about bowlers? do you want to depend on 1 or 2 bowlers? - and we'll do our best to help.

I know this is slightly out of the ordinary, but it fits my team better - will this be OK?

I have no objection.

Openers (5)
HP Figgut - 50
NZ Burtz - 50

Middle Order Batsmen (10+5)
BF Enchante - 60
MD Trokan* - 50
WS Pinnex - 50 30
IT Spreinmenger - 40

All Rounder (10)
PH Nejjimhio - 30 20

Wicket Keeper (5)
KF Ellalilali - 50 0

Lower Order Batsmen (5+10)
DN Yeg - 20 25
AE Williganti - 20 20
AI Klopper - 10 25

Is this ok? Still preliminary. Think it all adds up. Batting order TBA. All bowlers are fast: do we designate the action of all-rounders/part-timers? Trokan is captain.

Could i take the one just submitted? Just a "starter" team..

If there is any space left, the Druidan team would like to enter. We haven't had a team since the last Cockbill Street hosted cup.

If we are allowed in, our players will be entered a little later.

Openers (5)
HP Figgut - 50
NZ Burtz - 50

Middle Order Batsmen (10+5)
BF Enchante - 60
MD Trokan* - 50
WS Pinnex - 50 30
IT Spreinmenger - 40

All Rounder (10)
PH Nejjimhio - 30 20

Wicket Keeper (5)
KF Ellalilali - 50 0

Lower Order Batsmen (5+10)
DN Yeg - 20 25
AE Williganti - 20 20
AI Klopper - 10 25

Is this ok? Still preliminary. Think it all adds up. Batting order TBA. All bowlers are fast: do we designate the action of all-rounders/part-timers? Trokan is captain.
Yes, that all seems in order.

I would like the styles of allrounders and part timers yes :)

Here are the possible types of bowling if you want to do it for each bowler, not a must have though.

RF : Right Arm Fast, the fastest bowlers in the world, 90 mph +
RFM, Right Arm Fast Medium, still pretty quick, 80 mph - 90 mph.
RMF, Right Arm Medium Fast, getting a bit slower now, 70 mph - 80 mph.
RM, Right Arm Medium, pace is not a threat here, 70 mph or below.

All the above also have a left arm varient.

OS, Off Spin, the ball spins into the batsmen, presuming he is right handed.
LS, Leg Spin, the ball spins away from the right hander.
SLA, Slow Left Arm, the left handed equivalent of Leg Spin.
SLC, Slow Left Chinaman, the left handed equivalent of Off Spin.

If there is any space left, the Druidan team would like to enter. We haven't had a team since the last Cockbill Street hosted cup.

If we are allowed in, our players will be entered a little later.

Druida, if you entered, that would be great.

Openers (5+1)
HP Figgut - 50
NZ Burtz - 50 70 LM

Wicket Keeper (5)
KF Ellalilali - 50 0

Middle Order Batsmen (10+4)
BF Enchante - 60
MD Trokan* - 50
IT Spreinmenger - 40
WS Pinnex - 50 40 SLC

All Rounder (10)
PH Nejjimhio - 30 20 LS

Lower Order Batsmen (5+10)
DN Yeg - 20 25 RFM
AE Williganti - 20 20 LFM
AI Klopper - 10 25 RF



I've added bowling styles, and re-arranged into batting order. Hope it is ok to put wicket-keeper at 3. I have also changed the PT bowlers, per TA's note.

Ok., the 8 teams would be:

Gruenberg
A Paradise Cove
Shearwaters
Milchama
The Archregimancy
Jamee Gray
Euroslavia
Druida

Seem ok? Should we TG those involved to let them know they're in?

OOC: Please double check that I add up! Note that I've also chosen to move my wicketkeeper up to number 6 in the order, above my single all-rounder. Hope that's OK

THE ARCHREGIMANCY BRINGS YOU
THE DONALD BRADMAN TROPHY SQUAD

Monastic Times claims reliance on spinners - even orthodox ones - possibly dangerously 'unorthodox'. Holy Synod shrugs its shoulders and says critics should be able to draw a distinction between theological Orthodoxy and sporting orthodoxy.

OPENERS (5)
Fr. Polycarp the Willow Carver - 50
Fr. John the Craftsman RM – bat: 50 / bowl: 40

MIDDLE ORDER (9)
Fr. Nicholas the Wonderworker * OS – bat: 60 / bowl: 70
Fr. Seraphim the Silent – 60
Fr. Pavel the Patient – 60

WICKET KEEPER (5)
Fr. Basil the Safe-Handed - 50

ALL ROUNDER (7)
Fr. Constantine of Many Talents RMF – bat: 30 / bowl: 35

LOWER ORDER (5)
Fr. Theophilus the Speedy RF – bat: 25 / bowl: 20
Fr. Photius the Crafty SLA – bat: 15 / bowl: 35
Fr. Peter the Questioner SLA – bat: 5 / bowl: 35
Fr. Innocent the Chinaman SLC – bat: 5 / bowl: 30

Bowling points
Fast: 4 points
Spin: 10 points
Part time: 5 points

All adds up as far as I can tell.

At the risk of seeming nitpicky, I thought the best bowling average available for a part-time bowler was 40 - in which case WS Pinnex batting at number 7 violates that rule... If I'm wrong, then I'd want to change my own line-up to remove the bowling option for my captain and improve my own part-time bowler to 30.

Originally Posted by Gruenberg
Openers (5)
HP Figgut - 50
NZ Burtz - 50

Wicket Keeper (5)
KF Ellalilali - 50 0

Middle Order Batsmen (10+5)
BF Enchante - 60
MD Trokan* - 50
IT Spreinmenger - 40
WS Pinnex - 50 30 SLC

All Rounder (10)
PH Nejjimhio - 30 20 LS

Lower Order Batsmen (5+10)
DN Yeg - 20 25 RFM
AE Williganti - 20 20 LFM
AI Klopper - 10 25 RF

No, you're quite right: thanks for pointing it out. I've made adjustments.

Openers (5)

AZ Kennedy 50 n/a
KT Hellier 50 n/a


Middle Order (10 + 5)

TD Moore 45 n/a
JQS Emmery 60 n/a
DW Jones 50 40 (OS)
RM Caine 45 70 (RM)


All-rounder (10)

EPL Kirk 35 25 (RFM)


Wicketkeeper (3)

W Hammond 30 n/a


Lower Order (3 + 8 + 6)

SB Grainger 14 20 (RFM)
CJ Houghton 12 20 (RF)
D Hammond 4 20 (SLC)

All adds up for Druida, that I can tell.

I think you've got 6 on parttime when you're only allowed up to 5?

Middle Order (10 + 5)

TD Moore 45 n/a
JQS Emmery 60 n/a
DW Jones 50 40 (OS)
RM Caine 45 70 (RM)



80 - 4*10 = 40
80 - 1*10 = 70
4 + 1 = 5

These are the only two part-time bowlers, totalling the maximum five points.

Ithankyou! ;)

Harlesburg may be interested.

If you wanna signup just throw in a roster.

I'll sim a friendly between Gruenburg and Druida. Every team will play one, The Archregimancy will be in the next one.

A small change of plan, as we change to VC4 for simming.

You can also select your ground Conditions.

1 is good for batting, 10 good for bowling.

You have:

Pace:
Movement:
Spin:

This match is played at a 5-5-5.

Druida versus Gruenburg

Druida
AZ Kennedy c WS Pinnex b PH Nejjimhio 67 (71)
KT Hellier b AI Klopper 22 (23)
TD Moore c PH Nejjimhio b DN Yeg 6 (6)
JQS Emmery c MD Trokan b AI Klopper 34 (43)
DW Jones lbw b PH Nejjimhio 7 (9)
RM Caine lbw b WS Pinnex 7 (13)
EPL Kirk c IT Spreinmenger b PH Nejjimhio 38 (48)
W Hammond not out 35 (56)
SP Grainger c IT Spreinmenger b WS Pinnex 17 (18)
CJ Houghton c HP Figgut b AE Williganti 5 (7)
D Hammond not out 14 (6)
Extras ( w9 nb1 b4 lb9 ) 23

Total (from 50 overs) 275 - 9
Fall of wickets:
1-37 2-44 3-123 4-135 5-145 6-161 7-210 8-251 9-260

Bowling Figures for Gruenburg

O M R W
AE Williganti 10 0 62 1
AI Klopper 10 1 63 2
DN Yeg 10 1 44 1
PH Nejjimhio 10 1 55 3
WS Pinnex 10 3 38 2

Gruenburg
HP Figgut c AZ Kennedy b D Hammond 93 (127)
NZ Burtz b EPL Kirk 19 (43)
KF Ellalilali not out 98 (108)
BF Enchante not out 15 (22)
Extras ( w4 nb2 b3 lb11 ) 20

Total (from 50 overs) 245 - 2
Fall of wickets:
1-51 2-204

Bowling Figures for Druida

O M R W
CJ Houghton 10 0 64 0
SP Grainger 10 3 33 0
D Hammond 10 0 46 1
EPL Kirk 10 1 55 1
DW Jones 10 4 33 0

Druida won by 30 runs
Man of the match is AZ Kennedy

Up to 10
Middle Order 9
All Rounders 10
Fast Bowlers 8
Spin Bowlers 6

Up to 5
Openers 5
Wicket Keeper 5
Lower Order 3
Partime Bowlers 4

Openers
1.T Cenescu 55 No Bowling
2.K Shuttleworth 45 PT 70
Middle Order Batsmen
3.H Musharaf 50 No Bowling
4.O Deyon 56 No Bowling
5.S Marcabe 44 PT 60
6.R Shuttleworth 30 PT 70
All Rounder
7. I Irest 35 25
Wicket Keeper
8. R Smith 50
Lower Order
9. P McNaughty 18 Spin 20
10.S Howard 8 Fast 20
11.G Gellisugbwc 4 Fast 20

I lost...with 8 wickets to spare? Ouch.

Well played Druida, well played.

The Milchamian Roster for the Donald Bradman Cup:

Openers: (5)
BO Jackson 50 No Bowling
TJ Martin 50 No Bowling
Middle Order: (7)
CAL Klooton 50
TOM Taylor 40 20 LF
PIE Kichnin 50 40 (parttime spinner) LS
All Rounders: (9)
AJ Guyton 35 25 (fast) RF
MAT Techens 35 25 (spinner) SLC
Wicket Keeper: (4)
YON Horovitz 40 No Bowling
Lower Order Batsman: (5)
DAN Kong 25 20 RF
TY Mickens 15 20 (spinner) OS
KEN Thomas 10 30 RMF

Fast Bowlers=10 Spin Bowlers=6 Part time Bowlers =4

The captain is A.J. Guyton and the only baseball national team player is wicket keeper Yonatan Horovitz who is also the back up catcher for the Milchamian national baseball team. All players "initials" except for Horovitz are actually their first names.

A minor point, but a potentially important one...

I give our organiser and scorer full permission to use only my cricketing monks' first names for the scorecard, rather than worrying about how to fit the nicknames in ;) I've been careful to avoid duplicating first names in the squad (unlike my NS football world cup squad, which has three Fr. Michaels)

Interesting match between Druida and Gruenberg, with the Gruenberg bowlers clearly better at taking wickets, but the Druida bowlers better at controlling the run rate (or should that be, the Druida players better at scoring runs, while the Gruenberg batsmen showing a worrying lack of urgency?)

Cockbill Street would like to enter - if there's still room. (please disregard the squad posted here - it was selected on first-class stats)


Opening Batsmen (5)
CF Wakely 55
RA Shaw 45 60
Middle Order (8)
PP Gruggen 60
KP Crystalkiller 50
TE Heighes 50
Wicket-keeper (5)
+JA Pickering 50
All-Rounders (10)
GC Bradley 40 30
Fast Bowlers (6)
SS McLachlan 5 30
WJ Mason 0 20
Spin Bowlers (10)
ET Crosse 30 25
PE Stonelover 5 25

Lower-order 4 points
Part-time bowlers 2 points

Full Details From Streetian County Cricket Careers

Chad Wakely 2238 FC runs @ 62.16 RHB/WK, Ayreshire
Robin Shaw 3886 FC runs @ 53.23, 24 FC wickets @ 46.41 RHB/RM, Ayreshire
Peter Gruggen 4469 FC runs @ 66.70 RHB/RM, Rothershire
Kanut Crystalkiller 1127 FC runs @ 59.31 RHB/RM, B'zugda'hiara
+Jim Pickering 1556 FC runs @ 57.62 RHB/WK, Northset
George Bradley 2887 FC runs @ 56.60, 138 FC wickets @ 26.77 LHB/RF, CSCT
Tara Heighes 2707 FC runs @ 56.39, 70 FC wickets @ 38.00 LHB/LM, Wynshire
Eric Crosse 2145 FC runs @ 40.47, 211 FC wickets @ 19.50 LHB/OS, Wynshire
Petter Stonelover 519 FC runs @ 17.30, 164 FC wickets @ 18.89 LHB/SLA, B'zugda'hiara
Sarah McLachlan 379 FC runs @ 15.79, 80 FC wickets @ 26.75 LHB/LFM, Jotneheim
William Mason 103 FC runs @ 2.57, 193 FC wickets @ 18.51 RHB/RF, Woodshire

After realising this isn't Test cricket (boo hiss), the Streetian Department of Sports' Cricket Selection Committee would like to name a new squad (in hope that this one actually gets accepted...)


Opening batsmen (4)
GV Kruskopf 40
JCS Powys 40 40

Middle order (8)
RS Johnston 60
Goethite 55
TE Heighes 45

Wicket-keeper (5)
+JT Kimber 50

All-rounder (10)
GC Bradley 35 25

Spin bowler (5)
ET Crosse 25 25

Fast bowlers (10)
LS Pearce 8 25
P Goldthrower 7 25
WJ Mason 0 20

Lower-order batsmen (4)
Part-time bowlers (4)

Stats from Streetian County Cricket and preferred batting order
Gavin Kruskopf 973 List-A runs @ 44.23, 9 List-A wickets @ 41.33 RHB/RFM, Northset
John Powys 1079 List-A runs @ 41.50, 55 List-A wickets @ 29.65 RHB/OS, Woodshire
Ryan Johnston 1899 List-A runs @ 79.13 RHB/RM, Northset
Goethite 1915 List-A runs @ 56.32 RHB/RM, Jotneheim
+Jon Kimber 1041 List-A runs @ 54.79 RHB/WK, CSCT
Tara Heighes 1535 List-A runs @ 47.97, 33 List-A wickets @ 33.55 LHB/LM, Wynshire
George Bradley 1557 List-A runs @ 47.18, 66 List-A wickets @ 20.56 LHB/RF, CSCT
Eric Crosse 1016 List-A runs @ 35.03, 80 List-A wickets @ 16.29 LHB/OS, Wynshire
Liam Pearce 77 List-A runs @ 19.25, 31 List-A wickets @ 18.90 LHB/LFM, Northset
Petteri Goldthrower 259 List-A runs @ 16.19, 66 List-A wickets @ 20.68 RHB/RM, B'zugda'hiara
William Mason 67 List-A runs @ 4.79, 116 List-A wickets @ 12.99 RHB/RF, Woodshire