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Knootian Defense Force looking for new designs [Submit your military design here!]

Knootoss
02-09-2005, 23:54
Knootian Defence Force looking for new designs
The Knootian Defence Force (KDF) is looking for new military designs, and foreign private businesses and government research agencies are invited to join the bidding for lucrative new contracts!

Criteria
The KDF has contacts in the well-developed domestic arms industry, but it is not adverse to buying foreign designs if they believe them to be superior. Designs are judged on the following criteria:

The quality of the design, and its effectiveness in fulfilling a given mission.
Cost-effectiveness and price: Knootians are penny-pinchers. They prefer simple but effective over elaborate and expensive.
Adaptation of the design to existing KDF equipment and the military culture and doctrines of the Knootian Defence Force, as well as the goals of the KDF generally. Broadly expected theatres to which designs may be geared specifically: urban homeland defence, jungle and desert "colonial" patrol in the Knootian Federation, rapid response missions anywhere.
Compatibility: all KDF military systems are being upgraded to work with the Combat Application Engineered System for Advanced Response (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Combat_Application_Engineered_System_for_Advanced_Response) Computer system. This will have to be installed on any new purchase. The KDF also prefers to use existing missile designs on aircraft, etc. etc. insofar this is possible. Relevant weaponry can be found in the public documentation (i.e. wiki).


No storefront links please.

What do we want?
The KDF defence acquirement office has requested that submissions include

A schematic, which will be added to The Officially Big NationStates Ship Comparison Chart™ (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=395472).
A short written introduction into the specifics of the design (background, role, strengths and weaknesses, design history, etc. Indulge.)
Design specifications, arament, speed, etc.
A brief but complete argumentation why the KDF should acquire the design, mentioning cost-effectiveness, and how the design works with Knootian doctrines and existing equipment.

Requested designs.
The designs that the KDF is looking for in particular are:

A tank destroyer, which must be suitable for operating in urban environments as well as being effective in rapid reaction forces. (amphibious or otherwise ‘insertable’ models preferred)
A modern mobile towed artillery platform
A Eurofighter variant (airplane), that is geared more towards a strike-aircraft role.
A cruiser designed to operate in a Battleship Battle Group (BBBG)
An advanced APC.


Other designs not mentioned in the above list may be offered to the KDF as well, if there is a sound argumentation why the design is a must-have specifically for Knootoss. Feel free to design something for the KDF, just don’t swamp the thread with random storefront links/copies etc.

Remarks of a more OOC nature:
To get an idea of what I am looking for you’ll need to know a little about Knootoss, because I really want designs that fit my military.

You will want to check out the Knootian Defence Force wiki (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Knootian_Defence_Force) as well as the existing Knootian Military Hardware (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Knootian_Military_Hardware). For extra points you may want to glance over the article on Knootoss (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Knootoss) as well

Above all, have fun designing!
Hogsweat
03-09-2005, 00:10
-Lionheart Military Industries will give the APC a shot. By advanced I take it you mean high tech systems, not cheap+easy to produce (comparatively by NS terms)? do you want it to be amphibious? This should be fun..
Midlonia
03-09-2005, 00:12
I'll give the Towed artillery and maybe the Tank Destroyer a shot.
Depends on my mood and how long it'd take for my sanity to crack even more ;)
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 00:13
I just mean don't just come up with an open truck. ;) I'm looking for something able to shoot at stuff with the men inside or something. However, it should still be an APC, not a flying ambibious helicopter that can carry only 4 people.
Hogsweat
03-09-2005, 00:13
I see. Any particular crew numbers the KDF requires?
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 00:14
I'll give the Towed artillery and maybe the Tank Destroyer a shot.
Depends on my mood and how long it'd take for my sanity to crack even more ;)
Yay.
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 00:16
I see. Any particular crew numbers the KDF requires?
Indulge. But it should be a reasonably high number. Think: cost-effectiveness. :)
Guffingford
03-09-2005, 09:30
From the desk of the State Dept. of Military Trade and Commerce

Our department is pleased to present you the following battlecruiser design, fitted for any navy, small or large. The ship I am presenting you, esteemed defense experts of Knootoss, is the Aasimar Class Battlecruiser. Used in every battlegroup of the Guffingfordian navy, this ship has earned its spurrs in countless battles around the globe. Outfitted with coastal bombardment features, anti-aircraft missile cells, anti-shipping missiles and many more highly advanced technologies that will rock your navy.

The Aasimar was created because of all the ongoing happenings and innovations regarding the "superdreadnaught". While Guffingford has their own SD for a while new, the Aasimar is a relatively cheap and reliable design capable of laying waste to hostile fleets. Works extremely well in battlegroups, and can act as a flagship. The ship is a trimerian design, robust and only the most high quality materials are used. It is indeed the pride of the Guffingfordian navy.

Why the KDF should incorporate the Aasimar into their forces? Read for yourself, we can't think of any argument why not to aquire this extraordinary vessel.Aasimar Class Trimerian Battlecruiser
"The pride of the Guffingfordii Navy"

Click for image (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/fruityloops/aasimar.jpg) added reference numbers (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/fruityloops/aasimarnr.jpg)

Dimensions
Length: 410m
Beam: 85.2m
Displacement: 190.340 tonnes
Draught: 18.2m
Maximum speed/cruise speed: 31knots maximum/29knots cruise
Crew: 3000 men, including 200 marines who can also be given various tasks.
Range: unlimited due to nuclear reactors provided food and other products are being transported to the ship.
Misc: EMP protected; effects of graphite weapons kept to a minimum. A fire/high temperature resistant coating is also added to the outer layer of armour.

Armament
X-axis: (bow to keel) positioned missile batteries (anti-ship; submarine): 4×24 missile tubes; 2×32 missile tubes.
Y-axis: (top to bottom) positioned missile batteries (anti-submarine; anti-ship; cruise missiles) 8×8 missile tubes on layer one; 8×10 missile tubes on layer two; 4×12 missile tubes on layer three.
Z-axis: (left to right) positioned missile batteries (anti-air; cruise missile; anti-ship) 4×10 missile tubes on layer one; 4×10 missile tubes on layer two.
Total missile capacity: 8000 is theoreticly possible but only if all standard cargo bays are transferred into missile bays. However to maintain a constant rate of fire a guaranteed replenishment by logistical transport during missions is a requirement. On normal missions only 1200 missiles are used.
Guns2×16" battlegun, rapid fire exhaust and hydraulic cooling system (see #1 and 9). Cooling fluid is pumped through small 'arteries' burned out of the solid metal piece maintaining a constaint temperature.
2×16" battlegun - idem. (see #1 and #9)
4×10" battlegun - idem. (see #3, #7 and #8 )
4×22mm anti-aircraft gun. Triple barrel firing mechanism, computer operated. (see #11)
3×122mm coastal bombardment cannon (see #3 and #6)
1×455mm penetration mortar, coastal bombardment (see #10)
6×6×6 Torpedo tubes, six on each hull each. (see #16)

Note on metal composite in all barrel and VLS cell designs: High Compression Alloys (http://forums.modernwarstudies.net/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=30) are used extensively throughout the Aasimar, and ensures high performance, little to no rust and above all, strength.

Armour
Armour: Ballistic ceramic armour; composite/hardened steel blast armour; titanium hardened inner shell.
Deck armor: 450mm deck armour; 350mm main side belt armour; main turret armour (overall) 250mm; secondary turret armour 200mm; command tower #1 300mm; command tower #2 300mm; bulkheads 250mm.
Double hull, 56 bulkheads on the X axis, 10 on the Z axis.

Note on the armour scheme: Please read this Advanced Guffingfordii Armour Scheme (AGAS) (http://forums.modernwarstudies.net/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=27)

Radar & Sonar
Air Management: CELLDAR; 'Summertime' Active & Passive Phased Array
Surface Search: Satellite datafeed; 'Summertime' active & passive phased array
Fire Control: LADAR II missile control steered missile firing management; 'Summertime' active and passive phased array
Missile Control: CELLDAR threat assessment, thread identification. LADAR II and infrared target locking. Active & passive phase array
Submarine Control: DETAR high frequency phased Sonar; towed Sonar array.
Weather observation post (see #12), 2 doppler radars (see #6 and #7), IRCAN anti-aircraft warning system, Sirius anti-ship missile warning system

IRCAN Documentation
IRSCAN is a fully passive, infrared surveillance system capable of detecting and tracking incoming air targets. IRSCAN detects infrared radiation such as caused by the skin heating effect of airborne vehicles. It operates in a single wavelength (8-12µm) and supplies accurate target designation data to tracking devices and weapon systems. Additionally a panoramic IR picture of the ship's surroundings can be presented for observation purposes.

Sirus Documentation
SIRIUS provides continuous passive horizon search against sea-skimming anti-ship missiles. This passive IR search system operates simultaneously in two wavelengths (3-5 µm and 8-12 µm) and provides long range surveillance under all atmospheric conditions. As a complementary sensor to the on-board surveillance radar equipment, SIRIUS ensures a most effective capability against threats with respect to the timely evaluation and decision for target engagements, especially under restricted EMCON conditions.

Propulsion
2×5×2 Pebblebedded Barrow & Spencer 'Badloe' nuclear reactors waterjet propulsion. Side exhaust system lowers the use of the rudder, increases stability and provides a more rapid course change. Three main reactors are used for distillationof seawater, making it consumable. Each reactor is attached to a single shaft, powering up three five bladed rotors each. From the outside water is injected at high pressure at the exit of the rudder shafts, providing more power. The 4 outer reactors are attached to a single shaft, while the 4 inner ones provide power for the main propellors with 2 reactors connected to one shaft - 1 being used for all other power requirements on the ship.

Computer systems
The all-new naval computer system 'Man-o-War' has recently been installed on the Aasimar battlecruiser. Please read the Waveracer entry for more information.
Intelligent Neighbors
03-09-2005, 09:51
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/sp00ked/va31.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/sp00ked/va32.jpg

The VA-3 'Lucifer' aircraft is part of the Delta Project and is a joint development between Azazia and Venom Defence, bu the project has proceeded slowly due to the large number of systems to be designed. The VA-3 was designed to be a fast and stealthy bomber, capable of penetrating air defenses and destroying enemy targets with impunity before getting out alive. The Azazian team worked mainly on the engine and munitions.

Design

The VA-3 construction is 37% titanium, 23% composite, 15% aluminium, 4%DAiRT armour and 1% thermoplastic by weight. Titanium is used for its high strength-to-weight ratio in critical stress areas, including some of the bulkheads, and also for its heat-resistant qualities in the hot sections of the aircraft. Carbon fibre composites have been used for the fuselage frame, the doors, intermediate spars on the wings, and for the honeycomb sandwich construction skin panels.

-Reverse Triad (DAiRT) Armour
The first layer is hardened aluminium, followed by a carbon-silicon nano-mesh that will seriously slow down any fragments that penetrate the first two layers, preventing them from doing damage to internal mechanics. The third layer is a titanium-aluminium alloy to provide torsional stiffness and some protection from bullets. The last is a self-healing layer, composed of a glue-like substance between two thin layers. When the substance comes into contact with air it begins to congeal and harden, forming a cover over the hole. This only works on smaller holes - missile damage is impossible to heal.

Systems

The VA-3, like the VA-4, is loaded with sensors that allow it to do its job, and do it well. At the core of the system is a Black Steel computer module, controlling all the complicated computations of the plane and also providing a link back to the BS mainframe. The BS link gives the VA-3 an edge when at its home ground, or in the area of allied units, allowing it to work out the best route to the target.
//Only RWC nations can purchase the BS system, so if not a member a standardised system will be fitted, but will not have all the features or be as fast. You can also choose to have your own system fitted. The Azazian version has an Azazian control system.//

The radar system on this plane is unique. It is a high performance system optimised for flying at very low altitudes, while having a large enough range to compete well at high altitudes. The radar is capable of tracking up to 150 targets simultaneously; making sure it never overwhelmed. An automatic targeting option is built into the plane, allowing the pilot to concentrate on flying the plane while the computer takes out the targets autonomously. Inversely, the highly advanced auto piloting system can leave the pilot free to take on threats.

An advanced countermeasures suite allows the plane to use a variety of different countermeasures including chaff and radar disruption.

All of these systems are protected by an advanced EMP defeating system. Upon firing of a missile at the plane, or a nearby plane, the VA-3 closes access to its vulnerable systems, relying on information collected in advance to pilot the plane this information can be used to fire a missile at threats, as well as take evasive action. After a period of 10 seconds in this mode, the plane will reactivate and resume normal actions.

Radar jamming systems, as well as rudimentary active camouflage on the surface of the plane give the plane an extra chance of remaining undetected. Heat dispersion plates dissapate most of the excess heat.

Weapons

One 28mm cannon is mounted in each wing of the craft, as last resort weapons. The VA-3 also has 12 hardpoints that can carry a weight of 12,000kg stealthily and 16,000kg when stealth is not needed. The plane is capable of carrying a bunker buster bomb internally, as well as four Peregrine Missiles (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?showtopic=154) stealthily. This plane can carry almost all missiles and bombs available, and several new munitions have been designed for use:

Peregrine Missile
The Peregrine is a hypersonic weapon that can penetrate enemy defences and strike the target in a short period of time. It is a low-cost missile with reduced radar cross-section capable of being surface, air or subsurface fired. The system can hit underground targets to a depth of 12 meters after flying at beyond Mach 4. The wingless missile changes direction in flight by using a bending body joint. The Peregrine comprises a fin-less, bending body airframe, fixed geometry annular inlet, and a slip-out booster/ramjet engine. It can deliver a 600-pound payload to a range exceeding 700 nautical miles at a speed of Mach 4.6.

Hex-X
The newest version of the Hex series of anti-shipping missile, the Hex-X has three warheads, the first is on the head of the missile and is fired by a small booster into the ship, blowing a small hole with it's HEAT warhead. The following missile then enters the hole, where the second warhead, an EMP detonates. This knocks out electronics in an area of about 30m, and sets off the third warhead. The final warhead is a large HE warhead, designed to cause maximum damage inside the ship.

The Hex-X has an improved electronics system compared to the Hex 3, and features an EMP defeating/hardcasing system. The system is run using Black Steel technology and so is only availably to RWC nations.

Storm
Storm is a top attack system for use against armoured targets. It consists of a large laser guided bomb containing six mini-missiles. When above the target, the mini-missiles are ejected, homing in on nearby armoured targets designated by the pilot or a spotter. They each contain a HEAT warhead, and multiple missiles may be dispatched to the same target.

Engine

The VA-3 is powered by two pulse-detonation/turbo-fan hybrid engines developed by Azazia. The engines provide 130kN thrust. The engines' double pulse ability boosts the output to 250kN. Thrust vectoring is controlled by the computer module present on board. The double pulse negates the vibration of the pulses to such a degree that it is possible to use the engines for a sustained period of time. The loud noise when 'on pulse' renders the pulse impractical when trying to be stealthy.

Stats:

Crew: 1

Dimensions
Length: 22.1m
Height: 6.42m
Wingspan: 14.2m

Weight
Maximum take-off weight: 44,600 kg
Normal take-off weight: 38,000 kg
Empty Weight: 17,000 kg

Power Plant
Engines: 2x pulse-detonation/turbo-fan hybrid
Maximum Thrust (each): 130kN (Double Pulse: 250kN)

Flight data
Max Speed (high altitude): Mach 3.4
Cruise Speed: Mach 1.3
Service Ceiling: 19,000m
Maximum operating range at cruise height: 4,200km

Armament
12 Hardpoints (two in internal weapons bay, four hardpoints beneath each wing, 2 hardpoints on fuselage).
2 30mm cannon.

Cost
$86,000,000

//Only thing not included are the schematics, but I may draw some if you ask. Obviously applying for the light tactical bomber contract. The cost is for new planes, but I have 800 pre-owned (but unused) planes up for sale at $68,000,000 apiece.//
Aqua Nation Atlantica
03-09-2005, 14:28
Doctor Pattel of the ANA Military Technology Division rubbed his chin as he sat at the round table with five of his esteemed colleges, he looked up at them, and examined each face in turn, all the of the scientists had a readout of the Knootonian 'challenge' on their screens.

"So,"

intoned Doctor Pattel as he leaned back ,steepling his fingers.

"What do you think gentlemen? Good, simple and long lasting, and.."

Pattel leaned foreword and tapped his finger on the table top.

"A good way to showcase ANA technology outside of our sphere"

Karl Brodhammer, a Electromagnetic specialist rumbled in his thick accent.

"And a good way to test some of our new surface systems."

There was mumbling accent from around the table with all the scientist nodding to themselves.

Pattel correctly judging the mood, stood up.

"So, its decided then, as a 'Side Venture' of our surface systems development, we will attempt several cheap export systems.."


((OOC: Sure, I'll have a go!))
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 14:31
The offer of the VA-3 'Lucifer' aircraft was appreciated, but eventually the KDF decided that the aircraft would need too many adaptations to be able to fit with Luchtmacht standards.

Specifically, the Black Steel computer module would have to be replaced with the CAESAR 2.0 system used by the KDF, which would require extensive re-engineering. The radar system was deemed too expensive for an aircraft of this type, and the automatic pilot capabilities were decried by the Labor Union of Airborne Personel as ineffective and dangerous.

After long deliberations the Knootian Luchtmacht has decided to change its aircraft needs. It will instead look for partners (OOC: submissions) for a strike-oriented version of the existing Eurofighter designs. The Delta Project team will still be compensated for costs made in bringing this offer to the table.
Aqua Nation Atlantica
03-09-2005, 14:37
Doctor Pattel had his secretary type out a quick letter to the Knootonian Technology Department.

"Dear Sir or Madam,
As interested parties in the design contributions to your military force, we would like to inquire what Knootonian systems you would like installed on your vehicles, and if there are such, what are their specifications.

Doctor Pattel,
ANA Technology Dept."
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 14:39
Letter back to Guffingford:
To: State Dept. of Military Trade and Commerce
From: KDF Defence Aquirement Agency
Re: Aasimar Class Trimerian Battlecruiser

We are glad to have recieved your battlecruiser submission but unfortunately we must reject your offer. While we are sure that the Aasimar is a competent and efficient vessel, it does not fit our existing needs.

Specifically, the Aasimar does not fit the 'cruiser' design we requested, being far too large for our needs. It is, in fact, longer and more expensive than our latest battleship design, the Ondeugd-class (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ondeugd-class_Battleship) which is at the heart of the Battleship BattleGroup in which our new cruiser is supposed to be functioning.

The Knootian Defence Force already has the De Ruyter class (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/De_Ruyter-class_Battlecruiser) as a battlecruiser for General Purpose Escorts and Patrol/Station Guardships assigned, but we require a cruiser which can increase the firepower of our existing battlegroups which, as information provided in public documentation suggests, already have plenty of dedicated anti-air capabilities.

We hope you are not discouraged by our rejection of this specific offer, and hope to be able to do business with you in the future.
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 14:46
Doctor Pattel had his secretary type out a quick letter to the Knootonian Technology Department.

"Dear Sir or Madam,
As interested parties in the design contributions to your military force, we would like to inquire what Knootonian systems you would like installed on your vehicles, and if there are such, what are their specifications.

Doctor Pattel,
ANA Technology Dept."

Returned:


To: Doctor Pattel, ANA Technology Dept.
From: KDF Defence Aquirement Agency
Re: inquiry

Thank you for your interest in producing for the KDF. All our military systems currently work with the Combat Application Engineered System for Advanced Response (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Combat_Application_Engineered_System_for_Advanced_Response) Computer system, which has systems that are to be installed on every vehicle, ship, plane or uniform.

We also prefer to use existing missile designs on aircraft, such as the Naval Rail Guns (30.48cm and smaller) or, for example, the KSA-12 Spreeuw air-to-air missiles on aircraft. Relevant weaponry can be found in the public documentation (i.e. wiki) sent to you.

We look forward to seeing your submissions.
Excalbia
03-09-2005, 14:49
(OOC: If Excalbia and Knootoss were on better terms I'd love to sell you some of my Daniel III or Samuel II class cruisers or some of my Wraith class patrol ships. They're pretty inexpensive and, pound-for-pound, fairly heavily armed. They're especially good as screening ships. Oh, well...)
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 14:52
Doctor Pattel had his secretary type out a quick letter to the Knootonian Technology Department.

"Dear Sir or Madam,
As interested parties in the design contributions to your military force, we would like to inquire what Knootonian systems you would like installed on your vehicles, and if there are such, what are their specifications.

Doctor Pattel,
ANA Technology Dept."

Returned:


To: Doctor Pattel, ANA Technology Dept.
From: KDF Defence Aquirement Agency
Re: inquiry

Thank you for your interest in producing for the KDF. All our military systems currently work with the Combat Application Engineered System for Advanced Response (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Combat_Application_Engineered_System_for_Advanced_Response) Computer system, which has systems that are to be installed on every vehicle, ship, plane or uniform.

We also prefer to use existing missile designs on aircraft, such as the Naval Rail Guns (30.48cm and smaller) or, for example, the KSA-12 Spreeuw air-to-air missiles on aircraft. Relevant weaponry can be found in the public documentation (i.e. wiki) sent to you.

We look forward to seeing your submissions.

OOC @ Excalbia: Well, sign the treaty then and make some cash. :fluffle:
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 14:57
OOC: Added to the criteria after ANA made the point:
Compatibility: all KDF military systems are being upgraded to work with the Combat Application Engineered System for Advanced Response (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Combat_Application_Engineered_System_for_Advanced_Response) Computer system. This will have to be installed on any new purchase. The KDF also prefers to use existing missile designs on aircraft, etc. etc. insofar this is possible. Relevant weaponry can be found in the public documentation (i.e. wiki).
Guffingford
03-09-2005, 14:59
Communiqué to the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

As you wish, should you have any questions or willing to know more about our designs, feel free to contact us. Our experienced designers are also accepting custom designs, something you might be interested in. We are not saddened or disappointed in the rejection of our design, that's the way of capitalism. The Guffingford Allied Shipyards also offers you more specific classes of cruisers, anti-satellite capabilities. Our range of products is as diverse as the nation Guffingford. If you are willing, the purchase of the high-grade metal-casting technologies are still optional, despite of the rejection of our design. The same holds for our extra systems and armour schemes.
We thank you for reading through our humble presentation letter, and your reply.

- CEO Arthur Ballistan, Guffingford Allied Shipyards.
Aqua Nation Atlantica
03-09-2005, 15:12
Doctor pattel sat with his premium design crew in what they liked to call their 'Think Tank' a large comfortable space scattered with sofas, books, computers and various other tech toys, sat deep in the Pink Moon Technology Facility.

Pattel blinked again, looked over the letter, then back at the equipment specs.

"They prefer to use 30 cm railguns on their AIRCRAFT?"

He looked up and the rest of his crew just shrugged.

"Can we do this?"

His other team members looked at each other, then at Pattel, a young lady by the name of Loise Gillingham piped up.

"Its certainly a challenge.."

Pattel shrugged with a resigned look.

"Well, lets get to it, but I suggest we develop alongside it some more standard vehicles, just incase/"
Carthago Deuce
03-09-2005, 15:25
(OOC- I'll have a go at the towed artillery. Do you have any preferences as to the caliber?)
Knootoss
03-09-2005, 15:34
(OOC: Different types would work. Give a good argumentation as to why your piece would be good in the Knootian environments I described. ;) )
Carthago Deuce
03-09-2005, 15:44
(OOC- Thank you.)
Wingarde
03-09-2005, 15:44
TO: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency
FROM: Minister Wilhelm Vanholme, Wingarde

SUBJECT: Wingardian products

I feel you should brief yourself with information about our products from Wingarde Aerospace and Ravenholm Shipyards. They offer many fine aircraft and warships for accessible prices. However, due to the fact you are looking for specific designs, let me recommend you the following:

AIRCRAFT
- WF-27/C Firebolt (multirole fighter, standard or carrier variant)
- WF-33 Avenger (carrier-based tactical fighter)

WARSHIPS
- Wernover-class Heavy Missile Cruiser

I believe these designs will fulfill your requirements. Nevertheless, feel free to order any of the other products available in the catalogs (place your orders there).

Yours faithfully,

Wilhelm Vanholme,
Minister for Foreign Affairs,
Democratic States of Wingarde
OOC: Check my signature for the links to the catalogs. ;)
Aqua Nation Atlantica
03-09-2005, 17:40
It had been a good month or so in the test beds before Pattal had actually let that.. THING take to the sky, even so, the test pilot, Flight Captain Ingarson had requested the escape pod unit for the cockpit was tested at least ten times. But here they were now, Prototype XSF-30 rested on the rather large runway, (there was no way it was gonig to be a short take off) a hidious machine that composed of engines, fuel, recoil suppression rockets and a tiny cockpit wrapped around a slightly shortened 30.48 cm naval railgun.

it wasn't pretty, and until they had ironed out the problems with the recoil suppresion rocket timing, it was more likely to launch the gun out the front of the aircraft.

But now.. it worked, and the collective design team held their breaths as the huge beast of an aircraft lumbered down the runway, jets scraming so loud the armour plate on the aircontrol tower was shaking, and anyone without protected ears on the airbase would have bleeding eardrums for a day or so.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/22502447/

All the systems onboard were slot and play, designed to take the Knotonian systems they had been desinged for, in the meantime a ANA ADAM optical computer took their place.

All the team ducked as one, as the massive fighter roared over head, barely clearing the runway, but they breathed a sigh of relief as it seemed stable in the air, only time would tell however, as the test pilot put the craft through its paces.
Aqua Nation Atlantica
03-09-2005, 17:52
After a couple of successful test firings, (Pattel thanked God the thing was a railgun, any chemical residue would seriously kill the craft on firing) the brutish craft came in to land, just incase, the airbase fire alert teams had been put onto standby, but, she made it down, and in one peice.

Pattel and the group walked to the aircraft after her engines had shut down, various computer systems had been linked up to her to give readouts on the performance, and they wanted the data, Pattel himself however headed to the Test Pilot,

"So, how was it?"

Flight Captain Ingarson rolled his eyes towards the good doctor.

"Ya know that film, Doctor Strangelove? where the mad Captain rode the nuke Cowboy style?"

"Erm, no, but I will make a note to get it from the film archives.."

"Well,"

Continued Ingarson, ignoring him

"It was like that through the whole flight, I was practically straddling a naval cannon, with more rocket engines and fuel that should be considered seemly behind me, every time that thing fired, I felt it, not just the rumble and vibration.. but deep insode me.. all I could think about was there were 30 cm shells passing at hypervelocity, 3 feet from my ass."

Pattel blinked a few times, and was about to speak, but Ingarson cut him short by thrusting his flight helmet into the good doctors arms and striding off to the crew quarters.

"I need a drink.."

Doctor Pattel turned and wondered back to the design crew, all of which gave thumbs up from their readouts.

"Well"

he said to himself,

"The aircraft seems sturdy enough, lets hope Knootos has a few pilots that are really looking for a thrilling ride.."
Intelligent Neighbors
03-09-2005, 18:17
Regarding the VA-3

OOC: No problem, didn't take a minute to c&p from my website. Sorry it didn't fit your requirements.
Carthago Deuce
03-09-2005, 18:47
To: KDF review personnel (whom it may concern)

From: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban

Re: "New" Towed Gun

It has come to our attention that the KDF is looking to aquire a new(er) model of towed artillery. I would like to offer the Carthaginian M-92 light howitzer as an option. We wouldn't be selling them off, but we are shifting to 75mm from 81mm as out standard caliber for light artillery. We presently have 150,000 units available and are capable of producing more should you require it. All weapons military new, and fully operational. If you have any question, please contact me.

Specifics Attached.


Weight: 1.8 tones

Height: 3’ 7” – 7' (varies with barrel elevation)

Length: 13’ total, 6' 7" barrel

Set-Up: 1 min. 30 sec.

Caliber: 81mm

Barrels: 3

Range: 8 miles standard load, 10 miles heavy load, 16 miles with rocket assisted projectiles

Crew: 7 (Four men working the ammunition feeds, two men working elevation/traverse, one gun captain)

Ammunition Feeds: 2 (alternates left and right feeds, takes three or five round stripper clips.)

RPM: 190 max, 75 sustained

Traverse rate/range: 0-360 in 110 seconds (describes max. speed, range. Rate variable)

Elevation rate/range: 0-60 25 seconds (describes max. speed, range. Rate variable)

Shields: 2

Muzzle break(s) to prevent uncomfortable over pressure for crew

Recoil operated barrel rotation, ammunition feed, firing (fully automatic, fires as long as it has ammunition and the trigger is depressed).

Air mobile
Midlonia
03-09-2005, 19:19
The Respite T.A.P* boasts a 105mm Howitzer. Other features include an armoured Crew compartment capable of stoping most anti-armour projectiles and small arms fire. Plentiful ammunition storage to cut down on re-supply and logistics costs aswell as a tea/coffee-maker and air conditioning.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/Shade%20stuff/KnootianArtillery.jpg



Crew: 3 [commander, loader, gunner]
Cost per unit: 400,000 Euros [900,000 Midlonian Pounds]
Rounds per minute: Varies from gunner to gunner, approximate average of 15-25 rounds per minute to avoid barrel overheating.

*Towed Artillery Peice
Sileetris
04-09-2005, 04:56
I have an easily transportable tank destroyer that can double as an artillery piece, but I don't think it would be very good for urban combat since it has a semi-fixed forward facing gun. Interested?
Carthago Deuce
04-09-2005, 20:41
To: KDF review personnel (whom it may concern)

From: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban

Re: Other Equipment


Might you also be interested in our MetalStorm-type area denial system? Each of our ADS pods contain 30 40mm tubes containing fifteen High Explosive/Incendiary Anti-personnel rounds each, and 15 65mm tubes containing eight High Explosive Anti-Vehicular or Hight Explosive Anti-personnel rounds each. Each pod has an adjustable rate of fire, between 600 rpm and 1,000,000.

Our system works with sets of ten pods, and can effectively deny an area 150 yards by 40.

(OOC- Based on these: Metalstorm.com/04_video_area_denial.html )
Knootoss
04-09-2005, 23:13
To: Minister Wilhelm Vanholme, Wingarde
From: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency
Subject: Re: Wingardian products

Thank you for the preliminary information you sent us about the products delivered by the Wingarde Aerospace and Ravenholm Shipyards.

The luchtmacht has studied the aircraft you offered, the WF-27/C Firebolt and the WF-33 Avenger, and we feel that they are suitable for further consideration. As we want to compare the designs to other competitors which are likely to appear (particularly a new modified Eurofighter design which is under development) we would like it if Wingarde Aerospace were to submit an offer in the requested format (OOC: see first post), specifically focussing on the performance of these fighters in air-to-ground roles.

The Marine has also considered the Wernover-class Heavy Missile Cruiser, but its financial experts felt that the did not fit the cost-scheme envisioned, as well as introducing too many new missile technologies to the KDF to be working in the cost-efficient way envisioned by the new round of acquirements. Adaptation and Compatibility are two of the four vital criteria for new purchases.

Regards,

To: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban
From: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency
Subject: Re: "New" Towed Gun & Re: Other Equipment

Your submission for a new model of towed artillery has been received in due order, and we are considering to acquire the available units. As there are currently 2 competing models in the pipeline by ZMI and the Midlonian military respectively, we will make our decision when we have all the required information.

In that light, we would request that you send us a schematic of the suggested towed artillery pieces?

I regret to inform you that we have no interest in the MetalStorm-type area denial system at this time, but we are looking forward to further information with regards to the towed artillery

Regards,


OOC @ Sileetris: Feel free to make a submission according to the format of as described in the first post of this thread.
Knootoss
04-09-2005, 23:20
KDF Defence Acquirement Agency

“They did WHAT?!”

“Well, it has apparently been successful in its test flight”, a young junior officer at the KDF Defence Acquirement Agency reported.

“They thought that we wanted a… a… a naval gun airplane? Because some idiot made a typo?”

“Ah, yes Sir. Uhm. You wrote that letter Sir.”

“Impossible! Impossible! I’ll show you right now!”

The computer screen quickly searched the archives, popping up the innocuous letter sent to ANA. Slowly, the Knootian went pale, sweat forming behind his ears.

“They’ll have my head for this…”

“… maybe not Sir!”, the junior officer insisted. “This might actually work, you see. It looks insane, but you could think of it as an unconventional, creative concept. If ANA gets this thing to work you could claim credit Sir! Maybe even get a promotion. This could be the SD-killer the Marine has been clamouring for.”

“IF it works…”
Carthago Deuce
05-09-2005, 03:45
(OOC- How much of a schematic are you looking for? Would a profile be suficient, or do you want more than one perspective? And is it okay if it's 2d?)
The Candrian Empire
05-09-2005, 04:07
OCC: loolz, naval gun airplane. Classic. :D
Knootoss
05-09-2005, 08:38
(OOC- How much of a schematic are you looking for? Would a profile be suficient, or do you want more than one perspective? And is it okay if it's 2d?)

OOC: 2d is good. I actually asked for 2d, but the stuff people have come up with is very shiny too. ^_^ Profile would be sufficient.
Carthago Deuce
05-09-2005, 11:04
To: KDF review personnel (whom it may concern)

From: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban

Re: "New" Towed Gun


As requested, we now submit for your approval the schematics for the M-92 (sans shield plates).

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/Eudemic/M92-Grey.jpg


Weighing in at a mere 1.8 tons, and taking less than two minutes to set up and become fully opperational, the M-92 is an exellent light artillery piece for an air-mobile force. Being able to fire a wide variety of both standard and specialty type munitions (Smoke munitions, any chemical agents the KDF might employ, cameras, and several other types which we will brief you on if you choose to purchase the M-92) at an incredible rate of fire allows a single gun to do the work of a battery of more conventional designs. This reduces the logistical challenge presented by any military opperation by reducing the number of personnel and equipment which must be utillized.

The M-92, in addition to being able to put out a volume of fire several orders of magnitude greater that its competitors, converts detrimental recoil into the mechanical energy used in its opperation which drasticaly improves its accuracy. This means that despite it's high rate of fire and light weight it is just as accurate as any other large gun in its class.

Should you have any questions, please contact me at any time.

(OCC- Sorry about the not so shinney pic. I'm a not the greatest artist :( and I don't know very much about the mechanisms used to aim artillery.)
Pantocratoria
05-09-2005, 11:40
Who needs new and effective weapons or equipment when you can turn your soldiers into SUPER KILLERS? How you say? Panto's Magic Army Beans are the answer! A serve of Panto's Magic Army Beans for breakfast everyday and your soldiers will be all they can be... SUPER KILLER STYLE 100%!

http://harvey.nu/beans_on_toast/IMG_7240_heinz_beans.jpg
imported_El Hefe
05-09-2005, 14:01
While the new offering from El Hefe Military Industries (EHMI) didn't really fit any of the KDF's specific needs a smart saleman couldn't consider that an obstacle. Just another challenge on the road to a fat paycheck...

It certainly didn't hurt that the aircraft in question was being manufactured in Knootoss either.

----

"Thank you for coming out to the plant with me today Senor... First - here is my card and a few brochures about the aircraft we are going to be touring today. Keep them for back at the office. I'm sure there will be some questions about this fantastic aircraft among your staff."

Hector Gonzalez sat back in the seat of the (rented) limosine and gave the KDF staffer a moment to look over what he had been handed. Hector watched him stuff the brochure into his briefcase while he opened the small refrigerator next to him.

"A glass of wine perhaps? The factory is about ten minutes away and we have time to share a small glass."

He poured two quickly and forced one into his hands. It didn't really matter if he drank it - the generousity would help establish EHMI in the staffer's mind. He took a sip himself and held it up.

"Very good - one of the many local products I've come to enjoy during my career here."

----

The chauffer opened the door and Gonzalez practically leapt out. Subtly he moved the driver out of the way and held the door himself. 'Service with a smile,' he thought as the staffer climbed out into the mist that huge low over the tarmak. The driver closed the door and retreated to the comfort of the warm vehicle while Gonzalez - slightly chilly in his Armani suit - smiled broadly at the staffer and pointed at the aircraft parked in front of them.

"She's a real beauty isn't she? Form and function - beauty and the beast. Let's take a closer look..."

Walking the bare hundred feet to the plane Hector managed to squeeze in every fact he could think of about the exterior of the aircraft. Cannon, chainguns, missile systems, engines - it all came out in one long burst.

"...and you will notice the standard in-flight refueling boom to allow extended operations. Why don't we climb on board and take a look at her from a pilots perspective?"

The two climbed up the rear boarding ladder and Hector led the staffer through the interior while pointing out as many of the key features as he could.

"Now you will notice that the crew stations are all extremely well designed from the perspective of crew safety. Plenty of padding as well as warning signs to make sure no one gets injured on the job. Here we are in the cockpit - why don't you have a seat?"

Hector took the co-pilot's chair and waited for the staffer to sit as well before flipping a couple switches. Lights flew on all around the cabin and he could hear the engines begin to spin up.

"Take the controls - don't worry, she's secure - and feel that power. Just another something to let your men and women know they are the pride of Knootoss."

Minutes later the two were back on the tarmak and standing beside the waiting limo.

"Well, what did you think?"

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http://www.sunsetrpg.com/images/EHMIAG14a.jpg

http://www.sunsetrpg.com/images/EHMIAG14b.jpg

http://www.sunsetrpg.com/images/EHMIAG14c.jpg
Midlonia
05-09-2005, 21:05
OOC: ignore my previous post >_<

IC:
To KDF offices
From: Midlonian MoD
RE:Tank Destroyer, Towed Artillery Peice.

It has recently come to our attention that the KDF is searching for various fighting vehicles that are cheap, rugged and reliable. The Midlonian MoD beleives that it has found the answer for the problems faced by the KDF.

Item 1: Tank destroyer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/Shade%20stuff/MercilessTankDestroyer_schematic.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/MercilessTankDestroyer.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/MercilessTankDestroyer_urban.jpg

Notes: The Merciless Tank Destroyer is 6.28 m long and 4.32m wide and sports a 105mm Anti-tank gun on the "regular" version and a 85MM Seige gun on the urban version aswell as extra track cover protection. The gun is able to traverse through rougly 45 degrees. At 61 tonnes [loaded] it is suited for both Jungle and Urban environments. It also sports a co-axial .30 calibure MG and another on the back. Another feature is the MG turret ontop to cover itself. The Tank Destroyer requires a crew of 5 in order to operate properly.
Cost: 1.5 Million Midlonian Pounds [750,000 Euros]
Item:2 T.A.P [Towed Artillery Peice]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/Shade%20stuff/KnootianArtillery_schematics.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/Shade%20stuff/KnootianArtillery.jpg
Second Item is the Respite T.A.P An artillery/anti-tank gun. Boasting a 105mm gun it can be used for both medium Artillery support and anti-tank support. This requires a crew of 3 in order to operate [Gunner, loader, sighter]
Each complete unit would cost 900,000 Midlonian Pounds per unit [450,000 Euros]

We hope that these items will cover your requirements for arms.
Regards
Christian Keating, MoD P.A. Officer.
Knootoss
09-09-2005, 11:12
Letters
To: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban
From: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency
Subject: Re: "New" Towed Gun

Thank you for sending us the schematics for the M-92. The Landmacht is quite pleased with seeing a submission for such a light design, and if everything else checks out we are likely to put down an order with you very soon. However for the sake of fairness we will also compare your submission with the submissions of competitors.

You will hear from us in the future.

Regards,

To: the Pantocratorian imperialists
From: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency
Subject: attempts to poison Knootian soldiers.

The KDF Defence Acquirement Agency has reciecved the product you sent us described in the accompanying information as “Panto's Magic Army Beans” which were said to improve the physical performance of our human resources.

After significant testing we have deemed the bean-product to be responsible for food poisoning of at least six test subjects, resulting in significant downtime. In addition, the beans were deemed to be of the inferior quality produced only in Pantocratoria, as well as suffering from degradation as the result of often being well past their natural shelf life.

I therefore regret to inform you that we will not be acquiring your product, however we highly recommend that you sent it to our collegues in the Reich or Arda (adresses supplied below) who are sure to be highly interested in your bean product.

Regards,


To: Midlonian MoD
From: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency
Subject: RE:Tank Destroyer, Towed Artillery Peice.

Your submission for a new model of towed artillery and a Tank Destroyer have been received in due order, and we are considering to acquire the available units. As your submissions are in competition with other designs, you will receive a full reply in due time.

Regards,
Carthago Deuce
09-09-2005, 11:44
To: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency

From: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban

Subject: Re: "New" Towed Gun


We have also have over a million rounds of surplus ammunition of various types for the M-92 if you are interested. The price for this ammunition, as with the M-92, is negotiable and you can be assured is significantly lower than the production costs. While several years old the propellant used in the ammunition is still quite stable, and if stored properly should remain safe to use for another 45-65 years. As stated previously the payload is variable, but none of them affect the shelf life by more than ten years.

All ammunition was produced in Carthago Deuce under the strict supervision of the CCF.
Knootoss
15-09-2005, 15:43
OOC: Bump for Doc who said he'd post here.
The Macabees
15-09-2005, 16:01
We aren't sure if you have chosen your tank destroyer yet, but we will offer ours just in case -


Hyena Tank Destroyer – Hailandkill/Macabee Joint Design


[Abstract]
The Hyena was a product of the many engineering brains within the realms of Hailandkill, and was the conclusion of many years of cooperation between Hailandkill and Kriegzimmer, a Macabee conglomerate of a myriad of defense corporations. It was designed to be a light and cheap response to the growing numbers of main battle tanks. In other words, the task of the Hyena was to be a product for poorer, or smaller, nations to afford, in which using superior numbers, superior velocities and superior turret speeds to successfully encounter and knock out an enemy main battle tank on the field. It is to say, the Hyena has sacrificed newer technologies and heavier mechanisms for the sake of these three principles, which make the Hyena a very dangerous adversary, despite its technological decencies.

However, it’s not to say that the Hyena uses obsolete technologies, or at least is old fashioned. It does use limited amounts of revolutionary technologies, although any of these are generally designed to aid the tank in the three areas it was built for. These technologies range from engine types to transmissions to main weaponry. It all comes together to form a very deadly design despite common misconceptions, and regardless of tactical differences. In short, it’s a very good purchase for nations who do not have the money to buy mass amounts of heavy armor, and just want to survive on the battlefield.

Designers who aided in the project include engineers from most ground defense corporations belonging to the Kriegzimmer conglomerate, as well as independent researchers especially hired by the Macabee administration. Hailandkill Arms Manufacturing also provided for at least half of the engineering staff and much of the research and design budget, which the Hyena administration couldn’t handle by itself.

For the purpose of research the Kriegzimmer and HKAM staff can be reached on their telegram boxes and ask that customers or critics do not fill their catalogues with garbage. Any objections should be dealt with privately and in a personal matter. Both thank you for their cooperation.

[Engine and Transmission]
In this case it was decided that the best option for the engine of the Hyena would be a 1,600 horsepower gasoline engine. Like standard gasoline engines the Hyena would be based on a thermal combustion wave to combust the diesel in the combustion tank, which in turn drives the crankshaft and the subsequent pistons. The engine itself would include a twelve cylinder system, with an alternating sequence of piston patterns. The four-stroke cycle, which includes the pistons within the cylinders, includes an intake stroke, a compression stroke, power stroke and an exhaust stroke, just like the normal Otto Cycle.

The transmission is a three group system, using a dual stick shift box. The left stick includes the three groups; the first is for acceleration, concentrating the gears to maximize horsepower and minimize engine torque, while the second group is for hauling, concentrating the gears to maximize torque and to minimize horsepower, this group would be normally used to elevations, and the third group would be for reverse. The right stick would control the gears, of which there would be an eight gear system, giving the Wolverine a total of twenty-four gears.

Nonetheless, the engine is designed to sacrifice engine torque in order to increase horsepower. The strength of the Hyena lies in its ability for pure acceleration and pure velocity, not in its ability for raw power. This is the direct opposite as what is found in a tractor or a main battle tank, which need more torque to pull more weight, the tractor in hauling, and the main battle tank is pulling its own monstrous tonnage. The transmission is designed to give the Wolverine an excellent gear to weight ratio, therefore minimizing engine failures and maximizing efficiency, although again, the engine was not designed to be the most technologically developed.

[Crew Mechanisms]
The driver enjoys a very comfortable environment within the Hyena, although personnel chambers are especially cramped due to the relatively small size of the Hyena. Nonetheless, he enjoys a dual braking system, in which the brake pedal is divided in two, allowing the driver to either break only the left rear wheel, the right rear wheel, or both as in a standard vehicle. In this form the driver could either stop all at one, or turn in place. This braking system has already been used on most modern tank designs and all tractor designs, although the Hyena is the only vehicle in which it’s specifically stated as being used, and improved upon.

The entire pedal array, including the braking system, the transmission, the clutch and the acceleration pedal use hydraulic technology, making it much more effective, much more efficient, and much faster. The driver’s steering capabilities are also fully hydraulic, as well as maneuvering mechanisms. On the right side of the driver there’s a hydraulic lever which controls rear view cameras.

The cameras are installed in standard blind spots, allowing the driver to see from these blind spots in front of him on six separate twelve inch LCD screens. Each separate camera has a view on a separate location, allowing the driver a full three hundred and sixty degree rotational view of the tank, either using his own eyes, or the widespread amount of cameras.

[Armor]
The Hyena's armor is relatively light, contrary to design expectations of other nations. It’s designed as a CERMAT/CHOBHAM composite, including strands of tungsten, titanium and depleted uranium, woven around polymer matrices, which themselves make the armor stronger and more effective. The RHA value of this layer is thought to be around 900mm RHA at its strongest, namely the armored plate of the front of the vehicle.

There’s a center layer of ERA, an explosive reactive armor designed as a resistance to KE rounds. Engineers had decided against NERA because it had been decided that the Hyena would not be used in a position with following infantry. In that case, the ERA’s explosive reaction would kill the infantry along with the KE rounds, but military analyst do not believe this would be the case. This middle layer of Kactus-3 ERA is noted as around 300mm RHA.

Consequently, the entire armor rating, at its strongest point, would have a nominal RHA value of 1,200mm against KE rounds, and somewhere around 1,500mm against CE rounds. Although this is a relatively high armored rating, matching that of several other main battle tanks on the field, the armor is also rated as relative light, giving that added advantage.

[Armament]
The Hyena's main armament is comprised of a single 120mm electro-thermal chemical cannon, with electro-magnetic rifling, giving it a much stronger punch, as opposed to a standard smooth bore gun, or even a standard electro-thermal chemical cannon. The 120mm ETC-EM is enshrouded in a thermal protection layer, which reduces jamming and overheating, as well as the consequent recoil, although neither is the recoil that strong considering that the major propellant is an electro-magnetic force.

The Hyena’s main gun incorporates the standard Macabee fire and control system, called Brass. The new fire and control system, dubbed 'Brass', is the new top notch of said systems, developed by General Dynamics (Canada) and expanded upon by Macabee engineers. It includes Multi-Role Sensor Suite, Multi-Sensor Integration, Integrated Sensor/TA Suite, Virtual Immersive, Environment (AVTB)\, Neuroholographic ATD/R, Immersive Visualization. Moreover, the new system has both a low altitude RADAR and LIDAR system which has capabilities of tracking and giving firing solutions for up to twenty different targets at up to four thousand meters for the LIDAR and up to eleven thousand meters for the RADAR (although, of course, a gun doesn't necessarily have the power nor the type of shell to reach that far, and of course, that doesn't mean that the area between you and the enemy tank if full of large rocks that can disrupt your shell and its vector). The LIDAR uses a Gaussian transmitter, which is right now the most advanced LIDAR transmitter developed by the United States. Of course, this fire and control system also uses thermal imaging, and of course, infra-red imaging.

The sighting and vision systems are fitted according to the customer country's mission requirements. The commander's station is fitted with an optional panoramic sight and six episcopes fitted with a switch for gun and episcope alignment. The gunner's station is equipped with a day and night sight.

The standard shell used for the roles taken on by the Hyena is a depleted uranium SABOT, although the “shoe” has been given six magnetic rails – three on either side – to allow the electro-magnetic force to continue pushing it through the gun using what is known as the Lorentz Force, a very common force in electro magnetic technology.

The Hyena also has a single 12.7 single barrel close-in weapons system designed to counter rocket propelled grenades and most anti-tank missile systems. It has been proven to stop a Dragon type anti-tank missile, and is thought to have the ability to stop more advance missiles, even missiles like the Javelin or its international equivalents. It uses a separate Gaussian transmitter with a range of about two hundred meters to track incoming anti-tank guided and unguided missiles. The CIWS, or ACIWS, is automated and has a three hundred and sixty rotational view.

[Crew]
The Hyena has a crew of three, including the driver, commander and gunner. All three compartments are separated from each other, although every compartment has perfect accessibility to a intra-tank radio, allowing crew members to communicate with each other. The commander also has an inter-tank radio system allowing him to communicate with fellow Wolverines and other vehicles on the same radio wave frequency.

The driver’s compartment is by far the largest, although the commander has his compartment directly on the top, looking onto the vehicle’s front armor, which is designed to allow the commander a one hundred eighty degree view – the rest is completed by four LCD screens connected to the same cameras that he driver’s six LCDs screens are connected to. The loader’s compartment is smaller, although it is made larger by a protected shell compartment which holds thirty-six SABOT rounds.

The top of the Hyena is convex, giving the Hyena one the highest crew comfort ratings, and it doesn’t, unlike in many Soviet vehicles, give the Hyena any higher of a profile.

[Weight and Other Statistics]
The Hyena weighs fifty-four tons, making it the lightest Macabee/Hailandkill vehicle on the market. The principle contribution to the weight is the armor and the engine, as well as the main gun. It also has a maximum velocity of eighty kilometers per hour using a quicker gear group, although it isn’t expected to top over forty kilometers per hour in a standard combat situation.

[Cost]
The Hyena’s sell price has been rated at 10 million USD.
Knootoss
30-09-2005, 13:34
OOC: LAST bump for Doc before I begin appropriations. Grrrr.
Ilek-Vaad
30-09-2005, 14:54
Jaguar-Daimler Growler Advanced Tank Destroyer

Jaguar-Daimler has recently finished development on the AT-09 Growler Tank Destroyer. This fast, flexible and deadly vehicle is the perfect weapon for defensive anti-tank operations in urban and wilderness environments. Unlike most anti-tank vehicles the Growler also carries an anti-infantry component as well as a three hundred and sixty degree traversable main gun.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jaguar1024/Growler/growler1.jpg

The Growler carries a turret mounted 30mm ‘Scorcher’ cannon for protection against infantry and other lightly armed anti-material elements. The main weapon of the growler is the 155mm ‘Devotchka’ smoothbore gun, developed exclusively for Jaguar-Daimler by Narvik Advanced Ordinance. The 155mm main gun fires a kinetic dart APDS rocket assisted fin stabilized round. The round once fired discards it’s SABOT and as it reaches the middle point of the arc towards it’s target it fires it’s single rocket engine to further accelerate the kinetic dart, thus increasing it’s range and it’s penetration. The 155mm round can easily penetrate up to twenty five inches of composite armor at a range of two thousand yards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jaguar1024/Growler/growler2.jpg

The Growler has a two man crew, a gunner and a driver and has a top speed of 60mph. The Growler uses Jaguar-Daimler’s Composite Ceramite Armor which has proven in battlefield conditions to be nearly ninety percent more effective than traditional chobham composite armor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jaguar1024/Growler/growler3.jpg

The Growler also uses the Jaguar-Daimler Bio-Diesel engine, eliminating the need for fossil-fuel and allowing it to use soy based bio-diesel products. The additional benefit of the bio-diesel engines fuel consumption gives the Growler a range of four hundred miles in normal operating conditions.





Engine: Jaguar/Daimler XL6 bio-diesel 1000bhp
Gearbox: Jaguar/Daimler 95-6 'Super-six'
Suspension: Hydrogas variable spring rate
Track: Jaguar/Daimler; hydraulically adjusted double pin
Speed: 60 mph (road); 52 mph (mean cross country)
Main Armament: Narvik Advanced Ordinance 155mm ‘Devotchka’ anti-tank gun
Ammunition: SABOT
Secondary Armament: FN-Ilek Scorcher 30mm auto-cannon
Smoke Dischargers: Exhaust smoke injection and two sets of five L8 grenade dischargers
Driver: Day and night periscopes
Gunner: Day and night sights with thermal and infrared imaging components, laser range finder and target locking system.
Armour: 3.5in composite ceramite bonded armor

Final price has been set at 2,124,000.00DR

OOC:
not that any knootian would buy it ;)
Zepplin Manufacturers
04-10-2005, 13:19
MULE and STORMHAMMER Combat System

MULE

The TR180 MULE Multipurpose Utility Logistics Engine a utility combat vehicle (UCV) was developed by the ZMDF and is used primarily by the engineering and artillery deployments of the ZMDF. The mule has been in service for 12 standard years and its primary purpose is that of a support vehicle using exceptionally powerful engine. The MULE comes in various series including MLRS unit which cannot be used for Stormhammer operations.

The 2.1Mw power pack of the Mule is mounted at the front of the hull and consists of a very high pressure 12-cylinder direct-injection, supercharged SCAPA VRN20 diesel engine with a 5-speed SCAPA DR89 gearbox. Four fuel tanks provide a 520km cruise range.

The MULE and Stormhammer combination was developed for use with the MULE series D which features a twin 40mm TIW auto cannon fast traverse turret and twin camera operated TIW water cooled .50 GPMGs. The primary logistics module point has been equipped with a MAS built gel shell storage and exchange unit and can carry 64 rounds which can be exchanged with the STORMHAMMER’s main magazine.

STORMHAMMER
The Stormhammer (HA-46) is a 406.4mm towed howitzer developed by the Sorrenson Caprelli Amiere, Prestwick and Anderson Heavy Industries Combine. (SCAPA) together with the main sub-contractor Tactical Weapons (a sub section of TIW) for the ZMDF. SCAPA received a contract for production of 1,350 units. The first system was delivered one year later and deliveries for this batch are complete. SCAPA mobile systems (formerly the state owned armored command ) delivers the complete chassis for all series vehicles. Total ZMDF requirement is expected to be around 4,800 units.
In year 2, during test firings for the ZMDF, the Storm hammer fired 20 rounds all to ranges exceeding 110km (143.7km maximum). The ranges were achieved using VN80 streak shells from Samson Incorporated, in combination with the SCAPA D90 modular charge system. In November of that year, in live firings in the artic territories in Haven a similar range was achieved with Tactical Weapons new long range CR020 ammunition, also fired with the modular charge system.

Stormhammer has been mounted in the combat bunker combat system of 3 homeland coastal defence Tor's, as a demonstration of the feasibility of the system for coastal defence applications. The concept is called SCOD and requires a fixed mount protected bunker.

ARMAMENT
The electrical gun control system, supplied by Megacity Aerospace Systems (MAS) comprises the automatic elevating and traversing drives with semi-automatic back-up, direct laying with electrical instrument control and manual control.
The 406.4mm gun of the Stormhammer was developed by the Rockford Development Systems corporation. The gun has a chromium-plated barrel and semiautomatic lifting breech block with integrated 18 -round standard primer magazine. Gun parameters such as chamber temperature are monitored automatically. The Stormhammer is equipped with a full automatic shell loading system with ammunition management system.
The chromium-plated barrel is 12m long and is fitted with a slotted muzzle brake which gives increased muzzle velocity and reduces the level of muzzle flash. The wedge type breech block is integrated with an exchangeable primer magazine fitted with an endless conveyer for automatic primer transportation, loading and unloading.
MAS has also developed a modular Propelling Charge System (MTLS), the HA-46MPCS, which provides for faster handling, less wear on the gun, lower sensitivity to ignition hazards and improved range. In the Stormhammer, up to four MTLS modules form the propelling charge. The maximum range of the 406.4mm gun using the maximum MTLS charges is 110km with the standard HH-32 HE round and up to 150km with assisted projectiles.
The gun positioning and laying system is produced by GDT and mounted on the gun cradle. The system automatically determines gun direction, position and elevation above sea level. The integrated Deep Sky Positioning System (DSPS) receiver and the vehicle's motor sensors form the hybrid navigation system of the Stormhammer.

AUTOMATIC SHELL LOADING SYSTEM
The Stormhammer automatic shell loading system can handle 28 rounds of 406.4mm ammunition. The shells are picked up from the back of the gun carriage from the MULE towing / storage unit and automatically stowed in the 28-round magazine in the centre of the chassis.
The shell loading system is driven by brushless electric servo motors supplied by MAS. The automatic shell loading system has pneumatically driven flick rammer and automatic digital control, ammunition supply management and inductive fuze setting. This provides rates of fire of 3 rounds in less than 10 seconds and loading of 35 shells by two operators within 12 minutes, including the collation of ammunition data. The firing rate of the Stormhammer was 8 rounds in 28.29 seconds, and 18 rounds in 2 minute 23 seconds, during live firing tests with an improved autoloader. The muzzle velocity is determined automatically by means of a hybrid GDT radar/lidar sensor and is used in the fire control computation.

FIRE CONTROL AND OBSERVATION
The Stormhammer can use an automatic mode of operation including the data radio link, laser link, satellite com or ground based thumper with an external command and control system. The autonomous fire control functions are controlled by an on-board 320Hon computer supplied by GDT. Using the automatic mode, target engagements can be carried out by a crew of two. Using the fire control data provided by the ballistics computer, the gun is automatically laid and relayed during the mission.
Various backup modes are available which guarantee system sustainability in case of a component failure. As the lowest backup mode, an optical mechanical backup system is available. The commander seated in the MULE has TIW panoramic periscope, which is used in under-armor operations and for target designation in direct laying engagements. The TIW unit has day and night vision channels and a laser rangefinder.


http://www.deviantart.com/view/22536918/ Mule Series D and Stormhammer
http://www.deviantart.com/view/22512398/ Mule Variants
Knootian East Indies
15-10-2005, 15:24
From: Knootian Defence – the monthly insider magazine into Knootian Defence matters.


Tank Destroyers Compete for Contracts

Offers to make a tank destroyer for the Knootian Defence Force have been made public, showing a wide diversity of different offers to be considered for homeland defence. The tank destroyer Knootoss wants is supposed to be suitable for operating in urban environments and also be effective in rapid reaction forces. While the Landmacht is really itching for an amphibious or airmobile model it appears that this dream will not be realised.

Currently there are three primary contestants from abroad, most controversially perhaps the Jaguar-Daimler Growler Advanced Tank Destroyer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9723450&postcount=45) from Ilek-Vaad. In our review, we were positively pleased by this tank destroyer, and were especially happy that the recoil on the 155mm smoothbore howitzer didn't blow the turret off with its tiny barrel during a public testing. It also runs on a non-standard fuel called Bio-Diesel, which is only farmable by harnessing the power of gaseous Vaadian cow-excrements.

For the livers of ‘shiny’ there is the Hyena Tank Destroyer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9643436&postcount=43), a joint design by the moderately democratic states of Hailandkill and the Macabees. ‘Shiny’ is really all what the Hyena is, though, with its 120mm electro-thermal chemical cannon with electro-magnetic rifling, and the electrothermally-accelerated tank barrels to mention some of its aspects. The single-barrel 12.7mm CIWS system is, in essence, a simple remote heavy machinegun spinning and trying to shoot things down. These editors guess that it weighs about 50 kilos and has a fairly slow reaction time. Not only are the giant bullets inefficient, I would recommend that all infantry, light vehicles and aircraft are evacuated within a radius of 5 km from one of these vehicles when it fires. The screaming you hear when a 12.7mm machinegun is used as a computer-controlled anti-ATGM defence is Gun Safety as it gets raped anally.

The Merciless Tank Destroyer (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9588866&postcount=39) from Midlonia, finally, is a mundane (or classic if you’re a Merciless salesman) design. ‘Reliably mediocre’ is probably a good way to describe this submission, which lacks the attractive features of the previous two designs (Made By Gits™, and being able to double as a Network Backbone respectively). It does the job, though, and appears to be reliable in its mediocrity. We have heard some concerns that the main gun exceeds optimal barrel length, but nothing confirmed. Another worry is the useless secondary gun, which makes the profile of the Tank Destroyer even higher than it already is. If we were to have our way with it, I’d strip that thing, and replace it with a roof-mounted machinegun or maybe even an Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM). It also needs a crew of five for some reason. (Driver, commander, gunner, tea lady and butler? Who knows with these Midlonians. We suggest that the tea lady be replaced with a coffee machine, or a standard CAESAR computer to make things easier.)

The Growler comes at a pricey 2,124,000 Drachma, and the Hyena’s 10 million USD are even more expensive. The Merciless Tank Destroyer is arguably less capable than the Hyena or the Growler, but for 1.5 Million Midlonian Pounds (about 750,000 Euros) we should really be comparing ten Merciless Destroyers with one Hyena. While the Landmacht has never been accused of favouring such swarming techniques, the appeal of big savings is no doubt very great.

Search for viable strike-aircraft to go on?

The quest of the Luchtmacht to find a non-Eurofighter fighter aircraft geared towards a strike-aircraft role is not over just yet as the foreign submissions are set to be rejected by the Knootian Airforce under heavy union pressure over safety concerns.

The VA-3 'Lucifer' (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9572959&postcount=9) from Intelligent Neighbors was blasted by the Unions of Pilots and Flying Personnel, for having a remote mainframe and autopilot which automatically overrules the human pilot during critical maneuvers, claiming that it is on the whole a ‘dangerous’ aircraft. The wing mounted 28mm cannon was described by Maj-Gen. Bloemberg [Ret] as "the wrong weapon in the wrong location", and Knootian engineers warned that the vibration of the 28mm cannons might shake the aircraft apart under duress. The 30mm cannon hardpoint was deemed as ‘dangerously silly’. Non-union complaints came from the Finance Department, which felt that the carbon fibre composites and 150-targets tracking radar systems were too expensive to be applied on the desired scale. Because of these criticisms, the Luficer It is not considered a serious candidate anymore.

Yet more complaints came when the the WF-27 Firebolt and the WF-33 Avenger (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9476739&postcount=2), both from Wingarde, were submitted. The light WF-27 Firebolt came under severe criticism within the aereospace community for its notoriously low takeoff weight. Its Maximum Takeoff Weight of 13,480 kg was widely deemed to be insufficient for serious strike missions. Its heavier and more capable support buddy, the Avenger, was heralded as a more promising candidate but its role was more towards heavy support in precision ground strikes. Again, however, the unions objected, saying that “Close Air Support craft moving close to the ground at a cruise speed of 1,900km an our are terminally unsafe’.

The Luchtmacht will have continue looking for a foreign candidate, or start to develop a plane in-house. The Eurofighter corporation already has the expertise needed to build such a plane; the KDF should put the dragging conflict over specifications behind it if it wants to have a decent strike-aircraft, it would seem.


New artillery design a blast!

”Something small, fast, deployable, and paradroppy”, those were the hopes of the KDF Aquirement Agency when it advertised the contracts for a new towed gun for the Landmacht. It makes perfect sense, therefore, that the only towed gun they have actually committed themselves to buying is best described as a coastal defence fortresses on wheels. There is no contradiction.

The monster in question is the STORMHAMMER Combat System (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9743608&postcount=46), towed by the MULE. As usual, we can trust 16 inch towed howitzer insanity to come from ZMI. While admittedly not matching any of the design specifications the STORMHAMMER has been purchased to provide for coastal defence in the defensive perimeter designed to protect the coast of Knootcap between IJmuiden and the Europoort where it will apparently be used to prevent invasion forces from landing in Knootoss’ most vulnerable area. These big guns are the key to stop concentrated troops from securing a beachhead, such as happened during the Shadow War. The effects on beach tourism post-bombardment have not yet been considered.

Two foreign agencies have so far submitted towed artillery that is supposed to match the design specifications offered in the contract. The first candidate – a Midlonian design - is typical of the country of origins design philosophy. The ’Respite’ T.A.P Anti-artillery/anti-tank gun (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9588866&postcount=39) is more for the mid-weight category. The 105mm gun is nice, but compared to the more open designs it is a bit heavy with its 2,260 kilograms, and it is also rather big. The carriage basically wastes space and gives the gun a dangerously high profile. Maybe the silly carriage can be used on Midlonian railways (they like trains over there) but any train carrying this should be moving away from Knootoss.

Hearkening back to Napoleonic times, is the M-92 light artillery piece ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9585605&postcount=36) from Carthago Deuce. ( More info (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9574633&postcount=27)) It certainly is small, fast, deployable, and paradroppy. The brilliant little gun weighs 1.8 tons, and takes less than two minutes to set up and become fully operational. Another advantage is that it has over a million rounds of surplus ammunition of various types, still good for operations. Its has ridges which serve as radial barrel cooling, enhancing barrel life. The country of origin uses seven people to operate the gun, whilst comparable guns only need two to four people to operate such a gun. The Landmacht will probably see about cutting this number down. The supplier has 150,000 units available, and if the Acquirement Agency folks have half a brain they will order them all.



Misc. Developments.
-The Marine is still looking for a cruiser designed to operate in a Battleship Battle Group (BBBG). The Guffingford Allied Shipyards has specific classes of cruisers on offer, but no specific orders have been made.
-The Landmacht is still looking for an advanced APC. A design from Hogsweat is said to be considered, but it has not yet formally been submitted.
-A new prototype known as the XSF-30 is being tested over the North Sea, shattering all noise regulations for the Wadden Polder. The amount of noise it produces has speculated that the Luchtmacht is testing a new strategic heavy bomber-jet.
-The production and acquisition of 19 gunships from El Hefe Military Industries (EHMI) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9586125&postcount=38) has been approved by the Luchtmacht. The South American Arms Manufacturer produces its planes in Knootoss where they, ironically, are being built now to be deployed in South America, specifically in Knootian Colombia. They are to serve as close air support, air interdiction, and force protection against Colombian ‘soft targets’ of the insurgency.
Allanea
15-10-2005, 15:28
OOC: This is based on a real weapon. I upped the weight and the rate of fire a little bit, and converted it to belt-feed, also made some other minor modifications

IC:The Allanean Arms XM-456 “Tulp” 82mm mortar is the newest thing in light support artillery.

A play on the earlier Soviet ‘Vasilyek” design, it weighs in at only seven hundred kilograms, and is light to tow and to use. In an emergency, the mortar can even be towed by a staff car!

The mortar is capable of firing any NATO-compliant 82mm munitions, including ATGM’s such as the famous “Merlin”, and is capable to be loaded both from the barrel and from the breech.

Speaking of loading, the XM-456 feeds its 82mm mortar munition via a disintegrating machinegun-style belt from the breech, and is capable of a devastating cyclic rate of fire of 150 rounds per minute.

The XM-456 is compliant with all European weapons and amminition standard, and arrives stock with a PocketPC ballistics calculator. Standard rail mounts for rangefinding equipment are present as well. Radial barrel ridges have been installed to cool down the barrel.

The following are the key statistics for the XM-456 Tulp.

Crew: 2
Weight: 705 kilograms
Max elevation: 60%
Max Range: 8000m with rocket-assist
Min Range: None, can be used as a direct-fire weapon
Cost: Plot-reasonable amount of some form

Allanean Arms, Incorporated is the oldest arms company in Allanea. It has provided weapons and military supplies to Allanea, Ancient and Holy Terra, Antikristuseke, California and Alaska, Menelmacar, Midlonia, Reichskamphen, Seck Sapeel, Tarasovka, The Silver Turtle, and the Central Facehuggerian Teachers Union.

Remember: When you buy Allanean Arms, you buy quality.

OOC: Of course, Menelmacar only bought samples that went on to rot in come museum. But hey! Commercials!
Aqua Nation Atlantica
15-10-2005, 17:35
OOC: Ok, I think Im gonig to fields some systems now.

time for arting.
The Crooked Beat
15-10-2005, 18:45
Perhaps Knootoos would be interested in the Timor class light cruiser, as used by the Royal Crooked Navy (RCrN)?

The Timor class cruisers are quite new ships and carry the absolute latest in armaments. All vessels in the class (HMCrS Timor, Sulawesi, Zanzibar, Comoros, Cape Verde, Seychelles, Lakshadweep) have acquitted themselves quite well in battle, downing a number of aircraft each and participating in the battle of Cape Alfonso.

Timor class ships are fast, useful, and quite effective.

Battle Honours

Battle of Cape Alfonso
Sinking of Merchant Raider Kruger
Sinking of Light Cruiser Transvaal
Blockade of Orange Harbor
Capture of Light Cruiser Joubert, now HMCrS Audacious

Technical Attributes

Displacement: 5,430t
Length: 430ft (131m)
Beam: 50ft (15m)
Draught: 16ft (5m)
Propulsion: Stanleyport Type 12E Steam Turbines, four shafts, 27,000shp
Speed: 25-30kts
Complement: 480

Armament And Armour

2in Belt, 1.5-0.5in Decks

8x6in Mk.XI 50-caliber guns
4x3-pounder guns
4x21in (533mm) torpedo tubes

Cost of Acquisition

9,000,000 Crooked Pounds (baseline), price negotiable

http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/light-cruiser/chester.jpg

HMCrS Cape Verde
Ilek-Vaad
19-10-2005, 03:33
Letter to Knootian Defence– the monthly insider magazine into Knootian Defence matters.

From Sir Lloyd Hamilton President and CEO of Jaguar-Daimler LTD.

I feel that it is my personal responsibility to explain some of the Growler Advanced Tank Destroyers finer points to the readers of the venerable publication 'Knootian Defence'.

First, it is no suprise that the turret and the chasis of the Growler is more than capable of absorbing the 155mm Devotcha's recoil. The internal dynamics of the recoil displacing barrel, and the fact that the turret is mounted directly to the composite chasis of the main body of the Growler gives it more than sufficent capacity to absorb and withstand the recoil. While the turret is jarred, it is helpful that both crew members are in the main body of the Growler, giving free reign to the designers to mount such a large, and damaging main gun.

Secondly, the Bio-Diesel used by Jaguar-Daimler is made from 100% soy. This fuel not only has superior mile per gallon charecteristics to sulfur laden, impure oil based diesels, it is also cleaner. The fact that soy is renewable, makes it cheaper. It is also important to point out that it is perfectly legal under the UN's fossil fuel ban.

Third, the Growlers price, a staggering 2,124,000.00DR (3,398,400.00USD) takes into to full account it's superior build. It's longer range. It's better fuel economy. It's superior main gun. It's added anti-infantry capability. It's low cost of use and maintenance. It is fully expected and has been proven in tests that in combat conditions a fully supported Growler in an integrated anti-tank capacity will be fully capable of killing twenty five enemy main battle tanks for every Gowler loss. This easily makes up for it's initial cost. That and the fact that EACH and EVERY Jaguar-Daimler vehicle has a three year unlimited warranty against defect and destruction.

To sum these points up, Jaguar-Daimler has spent time and money to develope a superior anti-tank weapon. This weapon is costly to purchase, but pays for itself the first day it is put into full time use. I am fully confidant that the Growler is THE most capable anti-tank vehicle in production today.

-Sir Lloyd Hamilton
Jaguar-Daimler LTD
Coventry, Ilek-Vaad
Carthago Deuce
22-10-2005, 01:29
(OOC- Err. . . Napoleonic?:confused: )
Ilek-Vaad
27-10-2005, 17:25
To: Ministry of Defence, Knootoss
From: Jefferson Cosma , AFA International

Dear sirs,
With AFA International now fully up and running with full production faclilities in Azazia, AFA can now devote full attention to tendering a contract to the KDF for a strike fighter aircraft. I have looked over our current models and decided that the best design is the Hecate AFA-99B. This fighter jet was the main component of the Air Guard in Ilek-Vaad and is still in service in more than a dozen countries air forces today. While this fighter is no longer capable of being considered a top dog-fighter, it is still more than capable of operating as a strike fighter and is still more than capable of defending itself against enemy air-threats.

The Hecate can be configured to carry over a dozen different types of ordinance depending upon it's mission. It can accept the weapons frames of several different manufacturers and can either now, or be modified to use any ordinance that the KDF currently utilizes for it's strike aircraft. It's large payload capacity gives it more than adequate punch against ground, sea or air targets. The Hecate ca also install any variety of combat control systems and combat computers and can easily be integrated into any KDF defence network.

The main boon to the KDF would be the Hecate's low price and ease of maintenance. The Hecate has been in full production for nearly twenty years with only modifications in materials and computer equipment. The airframe is consistant, well known and easy for most flight crews to adapt to.

The AFA99b-Hecate would be the ideal solution for a reliable, cost effective and easy to maintain strike fighter for the KDF, for decades to come.

Jefferson Cosma
Vice President of Sales
AFA International LTD


AFA99-99B Hecate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/jaguar1024/Experimental/X99-05_Bclosewing.jpg

wingspan Swept:11.5ft Unswept:29.8ft
length:30 feet
height: 18.7 feet
empty weight:18,500 pounds
max loaded weight:42,724 pounds
maximum speed:Mach 2
service ceiling:60,500 feet
range: 1,000 MI
Cost:165,000,000 DR (264,000,000 USD)

Additional information on AFA International LTD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=441491)
The Macabees
28-10-2005, 20:48
Kriegzimmer Submits A Strike Aircraft!

GLI-76 Falcon VTOL Multi-Role Fighter

Abstract: The project was originally instated by Hailandkill as a new aircraft for use on his Maiden class SSCVN, however, after a series of grueling delays the original project was taken to Kriegzimmer. The ultimate team of engineers from both countries, ranging from aeronautical, aerospace and computer engineers, as well as a host of mechanical and electronic engineers, released a design that would forever be dubbed the GLI-76 Falcon. After a series of tests, including those for individual parts to the aircraft, and experiment flights the GLI-76 was deemed perfect for release a full thirty-six months after the beginning of the project, dubbed EXG.111.

The idea behind the GLI-76 was not make it into a prospective 'end all-be all' design. Indeed, the possibilities were that it within itself would not be able to stand up against larger and heavier air superiority fighters. But, that was never the intention of the engineers, and it had always been that the GLI-76 Falcon would remain a small, maneuverable, and efficient multi role fighter to be based off the limited capability SSCVN and even the CVNs, being a better option over the Lu-25 Black Mariah, which had several of the problems that the Lu-5 had [which was recently replaced by the Lu-45 Hawk]. The GLI-76 would remain a much more conservative and non-controversial aircraft, produced simply to base a large number of them off any given CVN or SSCVN. Indeed, the Luftwaffe had announced plans to drop the Lu-12 Canary from service and simply replace them with the Falcon, which amounts to around three thousand purchased GLI-76s just for the Luftwaffe.

The limited capabilities of the GLI-76 included a low velocity, due in part to the single engine power plant, and to the fact that the size of the airframe put restrictions on speed due to the fact that it most likely would not withstand the pressure of increased air resistance and consequent heat. It also is limited by the fact that it has very small payload ability, although for the purposes of this flight a large payload would be largely irreverent anyways.

The obvious advantages to the GLI-76 include its size as opposed to the larger ASF aircraft currently in use around the world, which means that it has a larger chance to use its stealth characteristics fully, and that it includes several aircraft and sensor systems that permit it to retain its excellence in the years to come. Indeed, the GLI-76 might be one of the new designs that underscore Kriegzimmer's striving to become some of the most excellent arms manufacturers currently in business. With the release of the GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bomber and the Lu-45 Hawk this becomes more of a reality as time passes by.

The original program's cost was set at around eleven billion Reichmarks, although as the project continued it was obvious it would cost more than that. The ultimate cost came at twenty-seven billion Reichmarks, distributed amongst all major subordinate arms companies working for Kriegzimmer, and those Hailandkill companies that also put forward a lot of technologies and thoughts. However, the final product was well worth the money. Indeed, the Golden Kriegsmarine has opted to scrap or sell its host of Lu-25s and replace them with the GLI-76 Falcon VTOL within the next eight years. It's not known how many will be purchased from Hailandkill from their own weapon manufacturers, although the order will also be substantial. Kriegzimmer has also prepared for sales throughout the international armaments market.

Airframe: The airframe is made of ten titanium ribs with a hull composed of a nickel-aluminum alloy mixed with sturdy ceramics, giving the airframe some mass, but avoiding making it heavy. Indeed, as compared to other aircraft, the GLI-76 is considerably lighter in weight. The hull has an outward layer of a plastic and glass composite. This is somewhat of a tweaked design taken from basic Norwegian shipping which includes a smaller radar signature within the context that this either absorbs or deflects in other directions light waves due to the nature of glass in general. Support beams and structures throughout the airframe are built out of carbon fiber.

All angles of the aircraft follow the standard equation of Brewster's Angle, giving it a substantially lower radar cross section [RCS]. The angles are designed for polarization which means that the radar wave will be reflected at another angle, and not at the expected incident angle. All of the airframe's angles are at around fifty-six degrees, just like the Lu-45 Hawk and GLI-34 Albatross. This also includes the outwards angling of the two tails at the end of the aircraft, providing for stable aerodynamics and a smaller RCS, as opposed to having a single vertical tail. For further stealth the entire aircraft is covered with the same radiation absorbent material [RAM] as other Kriegzimmer aerial designs, which absorbs radar anywhere from 3MHz to 6 GHz, which is basically a composition of honeycomb RAM, foam RAM and black RAM. Doubled with the layer of glass underneath, there is a heavy absorption rate, making the GLI-76 extremely stealthy in subsonic velocities.

The aircraft is also layered with a third generation single crystal super alloy named RENE N6, and the heavier coatings of this can be found around the nose, the junctions of the wings, the wings themselves, the tail area, the intakes, and other areas of high heat proportions and exposion to the natural elements. RENE N6 has the advantage of having a low susceptibility to a hydrogen embrittlement environment and extreme resistance to heat, allowing the GLI-76 greater velocities with a smaller power plant, which ultimately aids it in the reduction of its infra-red signature in the whole picture. Nonetheless, no one has ever considered the super alloy to be an end all-be all, and certainly nobody expects it to live up to such charges.

Testing conducted throughout the program on the airframe, including creep pressures under high heat and high friction, and velocity tests in wind tunnels have given good reports on the airframe of the GLI-76 and have noted its design to be one far superior to previous aircraft, for example, the F-15 and F-35. Research on the topic also includes a variety of pre-existing data on the materials used, including several articles and papers on the effects of super alloys and such. Indeed, the vast majority of the information used to even begin on the design of the airframe was received through a collection of past resources. As a consequence, the program engineers had churned out a very good design of their own.

The wings follow that of the Lu-45 Hawk, as well as other more modern designs, which is the switchblade concept. Ideally, through a series of hydraulics and electrical impulses the wings would be able to sweep from a standard position to a forward position, allowing the wings to basically cover three vital positions; the standard position, a forward swept position and a delta wing style, giving three different aerodynamic qualities. Indeed, the first position, having the wings perpendicular to the body would allow for slower runs for more accurate precision body if that was the objective of the given aircraft, while the forward swept wings would allow for dashing maneuverability in aerial combat, while the final position, with the wings fully swept forward in a smaller delta wing version would allow the GLI-76 extremely high velocities.

Nonetheless, these concepts do come with a considerable cost increase in both developing and expanding the concept and the manufacturing of these wings and electronics. It is expected, however, that through the months to come advances in the process of manufacturing will severely lower the price although this isn't guaranteed. Past experiences have said that this would technically be capable, but again, no research team has yet been assigned for the task, so the price still remains that originally high price, although it is considerably lower than other air superiority aircraft due to its restricted size.

Finally, the GLI-76 incorporates a reversible canard system, with two canards located under the fuselage, allowing the aircraft to point one way, while flying another. This means that the aircraft's sensor systems will still be able to track. It's a widely used concept, also seen on the Lu-45 Hawk.

Power plant: The developing of the power plant was perhaps the most devious of the entire project's requirements since it was the most difficult to agree on between engineers. Some had opted for a dual engine design, while most decided that a single engine design would be best. In the context of the whether the aircraft would have one engine, as opposed to having two engines, it was finally decided that the GLI-76 would have a power plant of a single engine. The other principle problem was how to deal with the creep, pressures on the engines, the heat, and hydrogen embrittlement of the casting for the single engine. The third largest problem was how to deal with the infra-red signature of a single engine design.

To deal with the first issue, the mechanical and aerospace engineering team managed to make available testing grounds in Arras, where the general lack of high urbanization made it possible for high noise renderings and frequent engine testing. The tests included a series of flights with different dual engine designs, and then with single engine designs. The final engine was one of the variants of the single engine design, putting out thirty thousand pound force [lbf] of thrust using a low-bypass turbofan with the blades and fans designed out of mono-crystalline material. Subsequent observing during the first system development and demonstration phase [SDD] noticed high creep and fatigue due to general levels of heat and friction. Consequently, the engine was taken back for revisions, and what came out was the same engine coated with a layer of Thymonel 8, as well as two auxiliary layers of CMSX-11B and CMSX-116, respectively. During the second round of development and demonstration the engines came out perfect, just like expected.

For VTOL capabilities the aircraft was given two thrust vector shaft-driven jet systems underneath the wings, while doors installed next to these jets allow for vertical lift and stabilization and open/close on command through standard hydraulics tied in to the rest of the flaps on the wing. These particular 'engines' were purchased off Luftkrieg by GLI some six months prior to the release of the aircraft.

Apart from that, the aircraft also uses counter flow thrust vectoring [CTV] for greater maneuverability at higher velocities. Although CTV has limitations, especially when the aircraft is flying faster than Mach 2, these limitations shouldn't make themselves evident on the GLI-76 since the aircraft is specifically designed to never break such velocities. Indeed, the maximum velocity of the GLI-76 remains at Mach 2.4, while the cruising velocity is as high as Mach 1.7, although the aircraft is truly designed for cruising done at subsonic velocities, merely having transonic capabilities for the sake of modern warfare expectations, and to offer lucrative options to potential foreign buyers.

With the second problem in the power plant design solved with the inclusion of several heat and fatigue resistant single crystal super alloys only the third problem remained. This was solved relatively easily by the inclusion of IR suppressants with ratings being the same used on the Rafale. Because the heat given by the engines of the GLI-76 would be especially lower than those on the French aircraft the heat suppressant characteristics would also be higher, which means that the infrared signature offered by the GLI-76 Falcon remains relatively low both at outtakes, intakes, and other areas of high heat.

Avionics and Systems: The great advantage of Macabee aircraft remain on the GLI-76 since all electronic parts are line replaceable units and shop replaceable units, making the Falcon’s electronic suit much more logistics friendly. Furthermore, it offers a highly ad vance avionics and system characteristic for the aircraft, making it a much more demanded aircraft than others. Indeed, the infamy of Kriegzimmer's standard excellence in their product's electronics transfers over to the GLI-76s design, including an extraordinary job done by Hailand kill in the design of the side stick and throttle controls.

All systems are linked directly to the pilot through a series of screens arrayed in front of him, including a heads-up display [HUD] on the pilot's helmet, following the design of the Eurofighter, F-35 and Rafael. Arrayed infront of him are six polychromatic liquid crystal matrix display [ALMCD] screens and four up-front display screens which host the electronic flight instrumentation system [EFIS] and Integrated Communications Navigation Identification Avionics suit. The entire avionics and systems suit is powered by a singe Common Integrated Processor [CIP], known as [i]Hans, which also powers the Integrated Electronic Warfare System , which takes advantage of high speed databuses. The CIP is rated at two thousand million instructions per second [Mips], with signal processing rated at fifty billion operations per second , aided by the [b]very high-speed integrated circuit (VHSIC) technology, and separate modules, constructed out of already well tested titanium/ceramic superconducting wires.

After healthy experiences within the Lu-45 Hawk the program also opted to include a Communication/Navigation/Identification [CNI] system, with its own [i]synthetic aperture array, with also links to te identification friend or foe program, which all composes a very effecient inter-aircraft and group cooperation, along with the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System [JTID] system and a Intra-Flight Data Link [IFDL] suit. The level of options for intra-flight cooperation is simply [i]spectacular.

For stock and warfare management the aircraft includes a Electronic Warfare [EW] system and a Stores Management System [SMS] system which continously work and cooperate together for a much more effective suit. The latter is expanded by two subordinate systems, including the Vehicle Management System[/b [VMS] and Integrated Vehicle System Controller , all in the avionics racks. The former, the EW, is for automatic countermeasure dispensing, as well as two other systems, the [b]Advance Integrated Defensive Electronic Countermeasure System [AIDECS] and a bit more revelant, the electronic counter-measure system [ECMS], which does it's job jointly with the EW system.

The pilot's well being is controlled and sensored by an Environment Awareness Module [EAM] and a Onboard Oxygen-Generating System (OBOGS). Furthermore, the pilot can effectively monitor the situation around the aircraft components using Engines Indicating and Crew Alerting System [EICAS], an Altitude and Heading Reference System [AHRS] and an Air Data Computer [ADC]. The primary flight controls come thorugh the Electrohydrostatic Actuation System [EAS], allowing control over the flaps and thrust vectoring if needed.

For navigational aids the GLI-76 includes several old and new systems, including a satellite based reality reproduction [SBRR] system and a hybrid navigational system, which works with gyro inertial guidance and a [i]global positioning system [GPS]. For an all purpose navigational system the Hawk has the tactical air navigational system [TACAN], which is supplemented by a terrain profiling and matching system [TERPROM], much like that used by the Tomahawk missile, which also works hand in hand with the global positioning system and other reconnaissance satellite systems.

Sensors: All sensors are collectively handled and constrolled from the central sensor system [CSS], esigned to take over the confusion of having separate sensor systems, acting like a guide to the pilot if the pilot is working in a compressed time table. This system, likewise to the Lu-45 Hawk, is connected to the Imperial Radio Detection and Ranging Central Nervous System , as are all aircraft designs by Kriegzimmer and bought variants from abroad, including those purchased from Juuministra. The IRCNS system allows for a fully integrated multi-radar suit, including a [i]solid-state microwave module and a electronically scanned array [ESA], which has a wider bandwidth, while using less volume and prime power. The Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) capability of the radar defeats conventional RWR/ESM systems, which means that the Falcon can illuminate an enemy target without that enemy knowing that it was illuminated. Furthermore, with an Inverse Synthetic Aperture radar , the pilot can illuminate a target, tell it's features and compare it to the aircraft's database of foreign aircraft.

The aircraft also includes a [i]bi-static phased array radar, with phase-shifters to avoid moving components in the radar, thus allowing the aircraft to retain the same level of stealth. Coupled with a infra-red search and track system , the system has a two hundred kilometer and fifty kilometer tracking ability, respectively, while including a radar warning receiver aerials [RWR] for basic protection services.

There’s also a series of LIDAR sensor systems installed throughout the aircraft, including a single down-looking LIDAR system underneath the nose of the Hawk. There are also two wide LIDAR apertures on the front and end of the aircraft, located in hidden pockets to reduce RCS. All three LIDAR systems work similarly, and they all incorporate Luftkrieg’s second generation LIDAR technology. The Falcon’s system is based on a transponder and receiver, beside that of the IFF transponder, which uses a Gaussian transmitter system to transmit LIDAR waves. The Gaussian transmitter is based on two electrical fields sending electrically charged photonic waves to bounce off targets and have active measurements on its velocity and location. The advantage of this LIDAR system is that the active RADAR only needs to gain a location on an object once before the LIDAR can take over, meaning a bomber can turn off its active RADAR to reduce its signature. The Albatross’ LIDAR uses Doppler LIDAR in order to keep track of an object’s velocity, as well as a LIDAR range finder. The missile’s heterodyne-reception optical RADAR uses a standard configuration [transmitter laser > exit optics > atmospheric propagation path > target] and [photodetector > photocurrent processing > image processing / BermCombiner/ local oscillator entrance optics]. The Silencer's transmitter is a Casegrainian telescope, which works much like the photonic mast on an ultra-modern submarine.

There are several targetting technologies including on the aircraft, including a electro-optical targeting system [EOTS] and FLIR, using a [i]charged couple device CCD camera, which provides long-range detection and precision targeting, along with a distributed aperture system [DAS]. EOTS is embedded under the nose, while FLIR and DAS is included throughout the design.

Weapon Stores: The aircraft has two internal stocks, with a total of six hardpoints, which provide room for a series of new weaponry being released along with the GLI-76 Falcon. Technically, the entire payload of the Falcon remains at three thousand pounds. Weapons compatible with the design include the AAM.176 BVRAAM [r. 275 kilometers], the AAM.37 AMRAAM [r. 120 kilomters] and the AAM.21 SRAAM [r. 30 kilometers]. Other weapons include the GUH.212.A JASSM, GUH.212.B nuclear tipped JASSM, the GUH.212.C JASSM-ER, the RIC.617.A JDAM, the RIC.617.B JDAM and the RIC.617.B nuclear JDAM, amongst a host of thers.

Although the total stockpile of the aircraft is not entirely outstanding, the aircraft is lighter which is of utmost importance, and highly realistic in its design objectives in the years that it will be of service within the airforces of multiple countries.

Statistics:
Aircraft Standard Title: GLI-76 Falcon
Function: Multi-role Fighter
Propulsion: J237-VCD-63 turbofans
Thrust: 25,000 lbf
Maximum Velocity: Mach 2.4
Crusing Velocity: Mach 1.7 and subsonic
Range: 600 nm
Maximum Take-off Weight: 50,000 lbs.
Internal Fuel: 17,000 lbs
Length: 43 ft.
Wingspan: 31 ft.
Ceiling: 54,000 ft.
Crew: 1
Armaments: 2 internal stocks with 4 hardpoints
Cost per Aircraft: 56 million USD
Cost for Production Rights: 32 billion USD


[[b]OOC: Descriptions to the different missiles will go up in the next couple of days within this same thread. Price is based off that of the F-35, with an extra twenty million or so on the tag.]
Aqua Nation Atlantica
03-11-2005, 00:01
Wearily Pattel looked over the design specifications for the new land craft prototype to be sent to Knootonia, he was weary because he'd spent most of the night arguing over how many of the six testing prototypes were to be sent.

"Lets see here.."
he sighed as he looked over the data pad that in effect, held the sales brochure for the tank destroyer prototypes.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/totalrandom/PitViperFinalLowerProfile.jpg

Price 7,300,000 Sea Sovreigns
Pit Viper AM-SVT-01 Reconnaissance Anti-tank Vehicle
Crew 2 (Commander / Gunner , Pilot)
Height 2035 mm
Width 4045 mm
Length 6950 mm
weight in combat : 20 tons
main weapon :AMI-wb-Crossbow 80mm Hypervelocity Electromagnetic Massdriver (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9324424&postcount=23) (Muzzle Velocity 4000 fps)
Ammunition : 80mm rounds, 60 rounds in 3 stacks of 20 (usual load, 40 SFP Copper Heads, 20 rounds APAM)
CIDS PCT-wb-Persuader 20mm Automatic Coil Shotgun (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8682028&postcount=22)
Ammunition :(20mm) 600 rnds flechette, 200 rnds AP
smoke grenade launchers : eight 80 mm launchers beneath armour skirts
Motive Power: Four independent electric drive systems, connected to their own individual tracks and suspension systems.
Fuel : Hydrox, standard hydrogen fuel cell systems
Armour: Composite TPMC, with thermal suppression, 30mm resistant on all sides, 40mm resistant on the front.

Additional Systems:
4 S-L1 class module areas in the turret and extending down into the turret well that can mount several different systems. amongst them were:-
Warsword Anti Tank Missiles or Javelin Anti Aircraft Missiles (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9324424&postcount=23)
Additional fuel (+100km range per module used)
Additional ammunition (a single stack of 20 rounds per module)
Storage Space
Small remote spotting drone.

1 x Multi Sensor Cluster Turret (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8489268&postcount=8)
1x Millimetre wave Lidar (in the blue green range for underwater use as well)
Full underwater capabilities do a depth of 30 meters, air being provided by ANA tech Osmatic membranes. (this also doubles as a NBC protection system)
Balute attachment points, so when dropped from the air, a controllable parasail is extended, allowing for a soft landing with directional control over the landing point.
1 Thru-Vision system (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9804837&postcount=25)for both the commander and the pilot.

Additionally, the controls were fully configurable and user friendly, with an almost computer game like ease of understanding.

The onboard computer system was modular as well, being made to fit the Knootonian new Battle Computer.

The Pit Viper also had a full set of lights, making it fully road legal.

There were also a large amount of publicity shots displaying the Pit Viper,
a few of them were:-

Autumn Camoflage (http://www.deviantart.com/view/24711100/)
Desert Camoflage (http://www.deviantart.com/view/24714402/)
Ghosted Image showing crew locations (http://www.deviantart.com/view/24737704/)

Doctor Pattel chuckled, then rubbed his chin as he smiled, after a few minutes he keyed in his comms to the distribution and logistics guys he'd been previously arguing with.

"We will send three of the prototypes, you will have to contact Knootonian traffic control, but the first I want air dropped onto the test fields, the second i want dropped at sea and driven in, and the third.. just drop it at some dock and drive it in on their roads!"

With that he hung up and chuckled, nothing like a bit of a PR stunt.
Knootian East Indies
04-11-2005, 00:10
OOC: 0_o @ Isselmere. Will attempt to formulate a reply to new submissions tomorrow...ish. Apologies for the late replies - rest assured that your contributions are appreciated. I just suck at life.
Isselmere
04-11-2005, 17:14
OOC: Apologies for the deletions and for the following brief submission, but since the official entries are ridiculously long, as someone pointed out to me, links are the only way of making a bid in a somewhat civilised fashion.

To: Knootian Defense Force, Defense Acquisitions Agency
From: Claudine Upton-Sykes, Minister for Economic Affairs, United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland
Subject: Design bids

Your Excellencies,

It has come to my attention that the indefatigable Knootian Defense Forces have requested foreign designs for the navy, army, and air force. I hope some of the following designs suit your requirements. I apologise that the material is presented solely as links and that illustrations of the designs are not present for all vehicles.

Navy
Cruisers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7151369&postcount=6)
From the battleship-sized Princess-class battlecruiser to the more basic Province-class light cruiser, the Royal Shipyards' selection of vessels should adequately fill your requirements. Several of the vessels are available as either conventionally or nuclear powered.

Army/Marines
L12 Otter amphibious assault vehicles (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8054371&postcount=4)
The L12 series was designed to provide amphibious forces with swift and sure means of reaching the beaches. Provided with a four-cell short-range surface-to-air missile system operable from either the vehicle or dismount commander's stations, the L12 series is capable of defending itself against helicopters and other low-flying aircraft.
L15 series of tracked light armoured vehicles (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8068911&postcount=5)
From infantry fighting vehicles, to engineering vehicles, to light tanks, the L15 series is capable of filling all of the roles you might require.
L16 series of wheeled light armoured vehicles (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8068928&postcount=6)
Covering the wide gamut of Marine and Army needs from armoured ambulances, anti-armour and air defence systems, to general purpose armoured vehicles, the L16 series offers you the broadest possible set of options to do what you need done.

Air Force
DAS-2 Spectre multi-role fighter (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7662403&postcount=2)
DAS-2R Banshee air defence suppression aircraft (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7759202&postcount=10)
DAS-2E Wraith electronic warfare aircraft (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7764264&postcount=11)
The basic DAS-2 fighter is a highly capable dog-fighter, fighter-bomber, and interceptor able to ruin the day for most opposing forces. Agile and with a heavy payload capacity as well as incredible endurance, the DAS-2 series is wonderfully adaptable and upgradable.

On behalf of His Majesty's Government, let me thank Your Excellencies for your time and I hope whichever selections your government makes will serve the KDF well for many years to come.

Sincerely,

The Hon. Claudine Upton-Sykes, MP, CS, PC
Minister for Economic Affairs
UKIN
Valinon
04-11-2005, 17:21
<put under observation>
Knootian East Indies
13-11-2005, 22:02
From a bar of small defence-related articles in Trouw

Government rejects Allanean arms deal
THE HAGUE – Knootoss will not be buying Allanean weaponry. Minister of Foreign Affairs and Defence Femke Vologdov rejected in firm terms the offer of the XM-456 “Tulp” 82mm mortar mady by Allanean Arms. She restated that the Dutch Democratic Republic does not recognise Allanea, and that buying Allanean arms would therefore be inconsistent with Knootian foreign policy.

Another Committee on Strike Fighter
THE HAGUE – the Defence dept. announced today it would form yet another study group to look into the acquisition of a new Knootian strike fighter. Two new offers have come on the table, the Vaadian Hecate AFA-99B and the GLI-76 Falcon VTOL Multi-Role Fighter from the Macabees. The Hectate has been in full production for nearly twenty years, and experts fear that the aircraft may lag behind in performance compared to newer craft, arguing against a ‘second-hand buy which isn’t even cheap’, referring to the €226 million price tag. The Falcon comes in at €48 million, but has a significantly shorter range. The strike fighter acquisition is now dragging out to be one of the slowest decision-making processes in Knootian Defence history. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Defence has apologised for the delays, but emphasised that it was facing ‘very difficult choices that merit closer considerations’

OOC: Carthago Deuce, I think I answered this in a telegram, but I referred to your gun as ‘Napoleonic’ judging by its size. I do not think it is bad or antiquated at all!
Knootian East Indies
13-11-2005, 22:47
Doctor Pattel chuckled, then rubbed his chin as he smiled, after a few minutes he keyed in his comms to the distribution and logistics guys he'd been previously arguing with.

"We will send three of the prototypes, you will have to contact Knootian traffic control, but the first I want air dropped onto the test fields, the second i want dropped at sea and driven in, and the third.. just drop it at some dock and drive it in on their roads!"

With that he hung up and chuckled, nothing like a bit of a PR stunt.

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North Hollandic Coastline
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The sea wasn’t very rough, but it was raining and because of the bad weather the sandy beaches and dunes along the North Hollandic coastline were virtually free of tourists and other visitors. The drumming sound of a vehicle driving onto the beach was, therefore, not heard by anyone and the only human presence the ANA commander could ‘see’ was a lighthouse which intermittently threw a ray of light in his vehicles path. A little further to the northeast, in an empty field surrounded by fences, the tank glided slowly down onto a cross which digitally marked the place of touchdown. And finally, the inhabitants of Callantsoog were up to a nasty surprise as something drove up their small dock and into the town.

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Den Helder Naval Base
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"Contact!", Luitenant Josef Fedrall exclaimed in a hardened bunker under the Den Helder naval base. "Kapitein, we have one ship and one aircraft over Hollandic space as traffic control said."

"Very well, relay to central command that the hunt is afoot", a moustached officer said with a faint grin. CAESAR buzzed to life, and anyone monitoring Knootian communications and logistics with advanced listening equipment would notice a severe (but untraceable) increase in communications traffic all over North Holland. The surge in communications lasted a split-second before returning to levels slightly-above-normal.

"Anti-air batteries 43 tru 48 and the Air Defence Cruisers Vrijheid and Justitia are to commence fire on the hostile air target immediately!", Fedrall read out in the local Command & Control centre. "The Marine Corps has Orders are to man the Den Helder perimeter defences relayed to individual commanders, display with your permission"

"Permission given", the Captain assented, "Word from the fleet?"

"They are sending a flotilla to hunt down the ANA dropship", Fedrall answered while using a nearby workstation to process the information surge.

"That should be an unfair game", the officer commented quietly, "Now how about our tanks. There were going to be three?"

"Not detected them yet, Sir, but CAESAR can calculate the possible landing zones?"

As the order was being confirmed, the computer was already calculating possible trajectories for the ANA planes, and suitable landing sites along the North Hollandic coast. The projections were rough, but information was still sketchy. Nevertheless, men began to move. Orders were being shouted in the barracks and officers messes of western Knootoss. Eurofighters thundered from runways, and tanks and men and material took to the field for Operation Hide & Seek.

The grey Knootian sky, meanwhile, was lit up by thousands of colourful flares, fired by the anti-air batteries and from the Air Defence Cruisers docked in the harbour of Den Helder. As part of the exercise, “downing” the “enemy” aircraft was thought just as impossible as finding and “destroying” the new tank prototypes.
Scandavian States
14-11-2005, 02:26
Arkangel'skie Voennye Sistemy would like to put forward a proposal for the IFV contract:

M-3 Arbiter Infantry Fighting Vehicle

Production Cost: 10 Million USD
Purchase Cost: 13 Million USD
Designed By: Arkangel'skie Voennye Sistemy
Produced By: Arkangel'skie Voennye Sistemy
Weight: 54 tons
Height: 7.25 Feet (2.20 Meters)
Width: 13.5 Feet (4.12 Meters)
Length: 37 Feet (11.28 Meters)
Crew: 4 (Driver, Gunner, Commander, and Electronics Operations Officer) plus 10 soldiers
Propulsion: Front-Mounted Isomer Reactor Turbine
Speed:
60 Miles per Hour (96 Kilometers per Hour) Top Speed
45 Miles per Hour (72 Kilometers per Hour) Cross Country
30 Miles per hour (48 Kilometers per Hour) 10% Gradient
7 Miles per Hour (11 Kilometers per Hours) 60% Gradient
Endurance: Limited only to crew comfort and supplies
Armour: Alexandria. Two layers of Osmium alloy armour hardened using Improved Plasma Immersion Ion Implantation sandwiching a "left-handed" 3D polymer matrix filled with electrolytic fluid and backed by electrospun fiber blanket interwoven with an extremely fine stainless steel wire mesh to help contained spalling and fragments. Brackets for slat armour and ERA are included.
Front: 3,500mm
Sides: 1,250mm
Rear: 1,400mm
Top: 875mm

(4) 9mm Automatic Cannons - Two anti-personal cannons are mounted on the sides of the tank in ball turrets and two more are mounted topside facing forward and aft in remote turret configurations. Each automatic cannon has 5,000 rounds.


Electronic Systems:
Multi-Level Tactical Digital Information System, MkII - The MLTDIS (pronounced Malt-Dis) is in some ways much like IVIS in that it is meant to share and coordinate combat data among many units. On the Arbiter this can occur from the platoon level all the way up to the brigade level, although not at the same time. Access is granted to the system by simply plugging it into the new Combat Suit, Tanker and initiating a retina scan. Using this system has been described as something akin to Godhood; simply select your destructive device of choice, look at the target, make a simple tapping motion with your index finger, and the target disappears in a fireball within a few seconds.

Pulse LIDAR Targeting System - The PLIDARTS (pronounced Ply-Darts) is meant as a way of fooling active anti-laser counter-measures. Instead of a steady stream of ultra-violet light that most laser targeting systems provide, it uses pulses of light to track targets. The pulses come fast enough that targeting of the main gun does not suffer but at even the fastest setting allow for several clock cycles to pass on the processing chips inside enemy counter-measures. An added feature is the ability to program the laser to randomly pulse between the set acceptable highest and slowest time values; this adds even more confusion to enemy counter-measures.

Multi-Spectrum Threat Warning Receiver, MkIII - The MSTWR (pronounced Mist-War) is a simple detection system designed to warn tanks crews of potential enemy targeting systems being directed upon their Arbiter. It is also capable of giving the bearing, possible range, and type of targeting based upon known performance data of enemy systems. Obviously, if one does not know what one is facing then it is extremely hard to take advantage of this feature. The system is also tied into a jamming system that is capable of neutralizing most targeting systems. The system is now capable of detecting Sonic Imaging.


Counter-Measures: Beyond the aforementioned electronic counter-measure system, there are a few physical counter-measures afforded to the tank. One is a fog generator that is capable of producing clouds of fog to fool laser-targeting systems and allow for tactical retreats to regroup. The other is a chaff/flare canister launching system that is installed into the turret itself. It is arranged into a hexagon pattern and the canisters are packed three deep in order to provide adequate protection against radar-guided missiles. Finally, the turbine is placed forward in a rear-facing mount so as to both provide extra protection to the crew and to not expose the crew or people outside to the gamma radiation given off by the isomers in the event of a piercing hit. Also, a new Physical Defense System is installed which uses hexagonally segmented strips of metal are slotted into grooves along the edges of the tank's hull and backed by high explosives. When a missile threat appears the EOO tasks the Neural Net with removing the threat, which then selects how many segments are necessary to defend the tank and engages the threat.


Survivability Systems: Full Nuclear-Biological-Chemical protection. Armoured crew pod to separate crew from engine and external weapons damage. Armoured ammo storage area to protect tank from sympathetic detonations resulting from enemy fire.


Tank Systems: Computer-controlled electrorheological suspension. Hydrothermal exhaust system to reduce IR signature and protect infantry from turbine blast.

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We realize that some systems, such as the hafnium isomer reactor, would not be practical for deployment in any heavy vehicle sold to the DDR military as the logistics base does not exist to support such a propulsion system and developing one would be inordinately expensive. AVS is able, and willing, to switch out any systems with DDR models at no extra cost incurred. In fact, switching to less advanced systems wherever possible will probably result in long term savings. Also, this heavy IFV is based off a tank chasis, so it is possible to design a tank destroyer based upon Knootian requirements; we should not have to note the economics in logistics of using commons hulls wherever possible. Also, because of this vehicle's origins, it has a great deal more protection than most IFVs that are likely to be marketed.

However, there are disadvantages; the heavy weight and large size means that it has limited air mobility. It is also comparitively expensive, both to purchase and maintain, even if we hold that you aren't as likely to lose one of these as you would a lighter IFV. Maybe most importantly, it has a fairly light armament, but with this design crew protection was a priority.
Carthago Deuce
14-11-2005, 09:43
OCC- No worries about the comment, I thought there had been some confusion because of my poor drawing. (I don't remember getting a telegram)
Carthago Deuce
16-11-2005, 01:13
To: KDF Defence Acquirement Agency

From: CCF, Department of Surplus and Liquidation, Colonel Preban

Subject: "New" Towed Gun


It has been several weeks since we were last in communication, and we would like to know if you have made a decision regarding the towed artillery designs submitted.
Scandavian States
22-11-2005, 10:05
[I hate to do this, but it needs a bump.]